it's not something journalists made up, it was a phrase that he minister was using. and the point is that - the lesson is clearly obvious to everyone around the world is that this pandemic- is something — we are going to have to get used to and we are going to be rolling with it and we _ will have to change. sometimes, we're - going to have our foot on the pedal and increase restrictions, sometimes. we will be able to take it off. and then there'll be - a new variant will come up and a particular vaccination will not deal with it - as effectively as others. so it is about governments learning to balance those i competing pressures of health and economy and politics. - and i think that the risk is that by, sort of, - allowing — the impression to get there that somehow monday clears the decks and it's - freedom from there on in in makes it politically harder. for the government to - reimpose some restrictions on the future, if that's what was required. . let me just bring in both your kind of direct experiences in your home countries, stephanie and michael.