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lovely to see you both again — albeit at a distance for now. now, monday will be what borisjohnson once liked to call �*freedom day�* — the one on which all the legal restrictions imposed on people in this pandemic will be lifted. prime minister boris johnson used to say this final stage of unlocking would be irreversible. now, he's not so sure. globally, covid appears to be on the march again. cases are rising in france, germany, the netherlands and spain. in indonesia, japan and vietnam, it seems rampant. stephanie, first, the dutch government under mark rutte, the prime minister, announced i think three weeks ago or so that restrictions were being lifted and he's now had to reimpose some of them and he's even apologised, saying it was a mistake. how worrying a precedent is that for the uk, do you think? i think this is — i'm afraid — a very much a precedent for the uk. i mean, as you say, mark rutte had to apologise, so politically it has been very difficult for him and i wonder what is next for boris johnson in that sense.

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