Chief international correspondent. I mentioned the distance between us because one of borisjohnsons changes was a reduction in social distancing to one metre plus. This is a compromise at two metres, many bars and restaurants would not have been able to open safely and profitably. Yet when the british Prime Minister announced this, among a raft of other changes, his chief medical officer stressed the plus in one metre plus a metre is only enough if you take other precautions at the same time. Exiting lockdown is more complicated than entering it. So, from next saturday, the english will be able to drink a pint but sitting down, not standing at the bar; attend a religious service, though not sing a hymn; go to the cinema and eat popcorn, but not the gym to sweat off the effects; get married, though itll have to be a quiet affair, Close Friends and family only; followed by a honeymoon, of course, though if you choose lisbon over liskeard, youll have two weeks quarantine yo to face when you get home. It isa it is a complicated business. I wonder if there is a slight difficulty here which is quite risky . At the time were some people seem to be getting stir crazy, judging by the activity . seem to be getting stir crazy, judging by the activity . I think it is very risky. People are saying you cant bust out all at once and Boris Johnson uses this upbeat rhetoric, doom and gloom, says it is your public duty to go out to pubs, and before the date he had actually shot we had an eruption of raves, street parties, all in different cities around the country and thus it was so around the country and thus it was so jam packed they had to call an emergency situation, and people are paying no attention at all. It is really dangerous because if there is a second spike that will mean locking people up again and it will certainly mean a great blow to Boris Johnsons government reputation for caution. It is a very difficult time and we may well have a summer of young people erupting over the place, having been locked up for so long, on behalf older people. Place, having been locked up for so long, on behalf older peoplelj hesitate to talk about going out on the weekend. Thank you for giving us the weekend. Thank you for giving usa the weekend. Thank you for giving us a view behind you that is not your book shelf, by the way but it isa your book shelf, by the way but it is a real problem here, people have been pretty good about this, with some bad examples, but we should not forget that well over 30,000 people in the uk have died from this and there will be people watching this you were directly affected from covid i9 and yet the message is, apart from other parts of the uk due to devolution, we are almost out of it, it is almost over, and now we can it, it is almost over, and now we ca n start it, it is almost over, and now we can start thinking about the future. You have to understand both human and political pressure on the Prime Ministerand on and political pressure on the Prime Minister and on parliament. The experience of other countries has not been kind about loosening the restrictions too early. If there is a second spike, which are 63 of british people believe there will be, as you say, we will have to go back to work then again and essentially all the previous sacrifices will have been for nothing. We will have to go back to zero. Ican nothing. We will have to go back to zero. I can understand the short term calculations, but i really do think that is probably, most are supposed like Approval Ratings were at 65 , but they have iiow ratings were at 65 , but they have now lost 20 points. If this turns out to be a mass, this churchill like rhetoric of people coming together nationally, he does have that symbolic attention to detail. It is something that has been described as a churchill tribute act. People will be very rightly distressed if these calculations turn out to be premature. We dont understand covid 19 yet. Some people have gotten two cases. I think we are in forthe have gotten two cases. I think we are in for the long haul and politicians have to be tougher earlier, even if economic consequences are tough. This is a challenge for the Prime Minister, in terms of getting this right . I dont underestimate how challenging it will be, but is in lockdown when eve ryo ne will be, but is in lockdown when everyone is doing the same thing is much easier than when some arent. It could be a Public Health crisis and political and social crisis. The warning that it is dangerous to come out of the lockdown as it is to go into the lockdown. There has always been this emphasis for a need for clear messaging. There has been criticism that some messaging has not been clear. But what i found interesting and perhaps slightly jarring, it started in the uk with politicians saying they are been guided by the science, and that gave us guided by the science, and that gave usa guided by the science, and that gave us a bit of reassurance, that a country with some of the worlds best scientists. But now you see, that while we are getting these wonderful announcements that they a lot then restrictions are easing, the science and former chief scientific advisers are saying something different. They are saying it is extraordinarily risky, it is a political decision to open up pubs and hairdressers, warning politicians to be aware, to be ready for a second wave. We still havent dealt with the first wave. Seeing. Until you get to the Contact Tracing right in the uk, and all of the assessments and studies in the uk say it is not right yet, the system is not working at the level it should have been. Studies saying a quarter of the population who tested positive for covid 19 are refusing to give contact details, so it has been warned that if you do not have the Contact Tracing it is going to be hard to open up the schools in septemberand it be hard to open up the schools in september and it will be hard to avoid another way. We are getting messages on the newspapers today, some saying to open up travel corridors and other saint not to rush it. The Prime Minister wants us to be guided by common sense. If you listen to the scientists and politicians and when we read the newspapers, you cant be sure what the common sense is. The pandemic in the United States, the pandemic has spared americans from months of political campaigning for novembers president ial and congressional elections. Donald trump held his first post lockdown rally in tulsa, 0klahoma, but it was a much smaller crowd than hed hoped for. I was average, he observed afterwards. This weekend, on friday the Vice President was out holding the first of the covid i9 press conferences for quite some time, saying that they should listen to the advice of social officials and respect social distancing. Has the administration got a bit of a problem here in terms of the messages they are sending out about dealing with covid i9 . Of the messages they are sending out about dealing with covid 19 . |j of the messages they are sending out about dealing with covid19 . I think so. This is a full blown Public Health emergency in the United States. There are more new cases today and yesterday than in any d since it began. There are several states that have had three or four increasing record days and unfortunately for president trump, and for people suffering, these are dates that opened up the earliest and because they followed his lead, you will have a political objection to wearing face masks and think that if they are going to get the disease, it is up to god, but it turns out that it is not a good thing for people who are young to go to bars in texas, as they have done in the last month. The number of cases a day were a thousand when the lockdown ease, it is no more. Now more. Trumps messaging is beginning, i think it is widely perceived in general, but also for his own constituents, in illinois and places that got it first, they had the biggest outbreaks first but came down hard on it and have not used up as much and they are doing better than the rest of the country. This is a terrible thing and it does mean that they lock their measures have been a waste in the us. It does have been a waste in the us. It does have political consequences for president trump. At that rally, he did not get a number of people he wanted. People said he was listless and rambling. He was asked in an interview this week about what his plans were and he had no idea. He could not have a single idea. His poll numbers are now consistently behind joe bidens. He poll numbers are now consistently behindjoe bidens. He is behind in swing states that he won by small margins the last time. People have turned against him. People have moved 20 points against him, according to the polling since the la st according to the polling since the last election, and College Educated people have moved. 0bama only got 46 of them and joe biden looks like he is on track to get 20 points more. That is people who are distressed by the chaos and strangeness of trouble. Trump seems unable to think of anything new, which i think is a sign of a narcissist who loves the applause but has never really taken the job seriously, he doesnt have the mental equipment too, and it is showing through this crisis. Liberals should know better than to write off donald trump, shouldnt they . Because they did that four yea rs they . Because they did that four years ago. Absolutely. Liberals live in hope and then get crushed time and time again. I think whatjoe saysis and time again. I think whatjoe says is very interesting about america, because if you look around the world, the extreme populace in democracies have done worse. There are people who want to rely on being told good news, even if it is lies, and they are caught out by this. Borisjohnson has and they are caught out by this. Boris johnson has found and they are caught out by this. Borisjohnson has found it difficult to struggle with bad news and warnings. I think it undermines populace when you have people who need helping and saving that is difficult and complicated, restructuring Emergency Services and Health Services, these things and details are social democratic. It is what the state wants to do. It is actual delivery on the ground, tactical policies. That is a social democratic view on the whole, but one the coronavirus goes away, i think we may see a resurgence in in government, not necessarily to the left but social democratic, christian democrats, people who believe in practical government. Polly mentioned brazil their but one could also think of ecuador with their Health Services in terms of coping with covid i9. Countries that may look for a strong governance but may look for a strong governance but may not necessarily look for strong civilian services. In some parts of the world, this will cause a reaction against democracy. We still do not know enough about this deadly virus, how long will it be with us . To be chief medical officer in england is saying that if it is not here with us until december to the spring, we should be humble. Ithink the results and evidence so far is that it the results and evidence so far is thatitis the results and evidence so far is that it is not binary that the authoritarians did worse than the social democrats and liberals did, or if they would be better everywhere from taiwan to singapore to new zealand to germany. It seems to new zealand to germany. It seems to tell us, while we all love charismatic politicians, at times of crisis what we want is competence. We want common sense. It is about protecting our lives at the health service, protecting our future. But you brought up the case of latin america was the World Health Organization says is the worst affected area. Some modelling says it could overtake the United States and it could be another four weeks until it reaches that state. Reaches its peak. There was a public scolding by the country boss 5 judge, saying he has to wear a mask, otherwise he would face a fine. He admitted that he had the disease, one he first referred to as a small flu. Result is a country where it is the mayors and governors that will pick up the pieces and dead bodies for him. But spare a thought for a country like peru, locks down quickly, observed on the social measures but is still seeing a resurgence because this is where the fundamental problem lies, and that across latin america at some 50 of the workforce is in the informal sector, whereas if you dont work until where hunger is seen as the biggest problem and not the virus, it is the same thing in brazil. 70 of the economy is the informal, which is why some have welcomed the president was much emphasis on the economy. People dont want to lock down because it is suffocating but also because people have to go to work, and if you are a daily labourer. This is the frustration no, people are finding they are getting some of the wrong results. We have not in the back of this crisis yet. Now, on dateline london, weve been trying to devote a few minutes each week to some of the other stories which habve received less attention than they might otherwise have done in this year of living dangerously. Jess, lets talk about the tension between canada and china and the detention of a chinese woman. This week, two canadians, one a businessman and one an expert for an International Crisis group, were charged with spying, they have been imprisoned since 2018 and happened ten days after the arrest in canada of the daughter and chief Financial Officer of the electronics giants, huawei. There were extradition requests to the us, due to apparent false statements. This is one of those messy International Incidents where china feels insulted. This goes back into the huawei bed into 56 beds in the western world, waste the United States is against, the uk is allowing limited access. These are ponds of these two guys and all the chinese say that they are not related,. China coming into the western world, as a joint power, they have all these resources and powers of its own and greatness of its own but when it feels like it can get away with it it acts like north korea. This is not what as serious as what happened in hong kong recently but it is a mess. I fear that these guys are going to be stuck injail for a while. Her extradition request may well go through and i hope there is some kind of a deal that could be arranged. I was it would not be a loss of canadas liberal standard if it released the chinese women, but the dilemma is it looks like the caved into china, a hostage to diplomacy. Who we will watch on this. There has been a growing debate in canada over what to do and it is one of those incredibly painful choices. The lives of two canadians and the pain of their families, versus what has been described as the national interest. The Prime Minister has resisted calls from the mans wife and a letter. The political spectrum, it is an unenviable choice. But afghanistan, a country that has not left the headlines. It now really gets into the headlines. A time of warand gets into the headlines. A time of war and peace. They are optimistic that the talks with the tower will finally start but last week, the Afghan Government said. It is undeniable as afghans hope and pray for peace, the violence continues. Two officials of the afghan unit we re two officials of the afghan unit were assassinated. Polly, you wanted to speak about unemployment in this year of living dangerously . Our own bank of england has said to expect mass unemployment, it is meant to be as bad as the 1930s. I dont think anyone is quite prepared for this. We are in a state of suspended animation. There has been a massive rise already, 5 in the last month, but the real outpouring of people from precarious situations, once deferral scheme has been taken away, some thejobs willjust deferral scheme has been taken away, some the jobs willjust vanish and i do not think we are ready. We have had the worst economic hit. We had a 20 drop in our economy. We had outbreaks of the virus and now it looks as though we are going to have one of the worst unemployment episodes and we dont know how to do with that or how to put in place any plans to ensure a job for young people. 300,000 young people leave school this summer, 100,000 new graduates come onto the market this summer, are they going to bejobs for them . There is a fear that they will be a summer of unrest in a lot of our inner cities were a lot of very mopey people, some losing their jobs this august low pay, you wonder what the Response Response will be. We hope that we dont break out into any violence. Should this be wearing policymakers everywhere . Absolutely. By conventional standards, who knows any more, given the way this economic world is happening in the huge deficit spending . It is not a collapse in demand, it is simply a temporary shutdown of normal activity, which you can imagine, as soon as the restraints are listed. Thank you for that. Just before we go, some sad news about one of the foreign correspondents who make dateline what it is. Greg katz, who had run the London Bureau of the associated press, has died. Greg, who was 67, contracted covid 19. Among many achievements in forty years of journalism, in 1994 he was one of the team at the Dallas Morning News awarded the Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting for a series on violence against women worldwide. Our thoughts are with gregs wife and daughter at this sad time until next week, good bye. Hello. After all the heat and humidity of the past week, its now cooler out there. It will cool down a bit more as the weekend goes on. There will be some rain or showers around at times. Its unusually windy for the time of year as well. Its all because weve got an area of low pressure that this weekend is parking itself towards the north west here. Its around that were seeing these bands of wet weather moving through, and the winds are picking up as well. So, all parts seeing some rain at some stage of today. Tending to go through again in these bands of showers, but some longer spells of rain in Northern Ireland and scotland, bringing a risk of flooding. 10 20 millimetres in an hour, maybe a bit more, building up over a few hours here. And the showers that are running through england and wales, if you catch one, it could be heavy, maybe with a rumble of thunder, and maybe some hail too, but this afternoon there will be some brighter skies in between the showers. Whilst weve seen temperatures in excess of 30, were just getting above 20 degrees in the warmest areas today. Not quite as windy in Northern Ireland and scotland, so thats why the rain hangs around a bit longer when you see it, but those wind gusts around england and wales, 30 a0 mph, and if anything its windier across the uk tomorrow. Now, into tonight, we will continue with these showers heading in, and it looks like closer to this area of low pressure there will be some longer spells of rain running into Northern Ireland, south west scotland, north west england and north wales. If youre not a fan of the heat and humidity, temperatures overnight are coming down as well, so it does make it easier for sleeping. And you notice on the big picture for tomorrow, very little has changed. We still have this area of low pressure. It has just pushed a little further north, and i think it will allow more of scotland and Northern Ireland to be in the stronger winds at this stage as well. And still very wet in places here for north west england and north wales, frequent showers moving in. The southern half of wales, southern half of england, maybe fewer showers than today. More in the way of sunny spells. It is windier tomorrow. We are going to see some gusts in excess of a0 mph, so that really is very blustery for the time of year, temperatures are going to be a little bit lower tomorrow. Look at that, just highs of 11 degrees in belfast and glasgow, and most places will not get as high as 20. It starts windy and showery next week, turns quieter by mid week and no return yet of that heat and humidity. This is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. British tourists are set to be allowed to travel to European Countries including spain, france and greece without having to quarantine on their return. As texas and florida reimpose virus restrictions, the us Infectious Disease chief says the nation has a serious problem in its handling of covid 19. India records its highest daily number of new coronavirus cases so far, surging to over half a million. 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