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Presents another chance to see their live show from v a dundee. We hear about the regions pivotal role in video games and have a visit from nasa. This week, another chance to see click live 2019 in scotland. Enjoy. Trying to give spencer direction. 0k, well set back up the top, please. We just did a stagger through which is about three hours behind schedule. Hopefully its all going to work out in the end when we go live at 5 00. No pressure. Fingers crossed its all going to happen. Im just changing bits. I hope he doesnt mind. Like that . Yeah. Are you pleased with that rehearsal . Kind of, yeah, i just want these to be in. It was quite nerve racking at this point, but im excited. Theres a bit of a buzz, isnt there . Been looking forward to it for weeks. Why are you guys here tonight . Ijust want to learn, really, and see all the new stuff going on. Are you sure we shouldnt be there already . Trust me, were going to get there on time. But dundees 500 miles away. The trains going to take hours, even a flights going to take too long. There is no way. Seriously, i had a word with a guy, he knows a guy and he said theres a shortcut. All we need to do is use this. You need to get out more. We just need to press start. Goodness, spencer, are you 0k . Yeah, just, just, just go with it. Go with what . What the. . Right, follow me. Ok, this is weird. Come on. Are you sure this is the most direct route . Pretty sure, yeah. Can we at least stop and ask for directions . No need, ive got a map. Itll be fine. Over here. Ah. Um. Oh. Oh, you had it upside down, didnt you . Little bit, yeah. Ok, this is more like it. Ah, dundee, we should only be a couple of blocks away now. Blocks nice, i see what you did there. Yep, there it is. V a dundee. Here we come announcer from v a dundee, this is bbc click live. Please welcome your hosts, Lara Lewington and spencer kelly. Yes, its that time of yearagain, where we leave the comfort of the click offices and go live to the world, or at least to a crowd of very eager tech fans. V a dundee was the spectacular location for a show that took in everything from Artificial Intelligence to facial recognition. The museum not only celebrates the past, but also looks to the future. Most peoples idea of robots are shaped by the robots they see in science fiction, so like in a film or tv or video games or music. But robots are a bit more real than what we think. So most children will now grow up with siri or alexa or some kind of smart helper in their life, and i think in the future thats just going to increase. Were going to have more robotic helpers helping our children and helping us, just increasing more and more on an everyday basis. Currently on display is the exhibition design between human and machine. So rather than robots coming in and replacing us and replacing our jobs, i think the future is a bit more of an optimistic one. Weve got an amazing structure, a commission thats been specially built here for us at the v a dundee, and this is all about the idea of humans and robots collaborating together to create something amazing and wonderful, and i think thats a bit more what the future will be like, so slightly less pessimistic than what we imagine. I hope. In recent years, dundee has become something of a digital powerhouse. Its synonymous with video games like lemmings, grand theft auto and, yes, minecraft. Dundee has the honour, we believe, of being the city in the world with the highest per capita volume of games developers. Thats come around for a number of reasons. It started off back in the 1980s, there was a lot of us programming away on sinclair spectrums that happened to be made in the city, so you could always pick one up ex factory when they went slightly wrong for less than they cost in the shops. Some amazing video games came out of the city at that point, and that gave a lot of us the inspiration to go and set our own companies up. The worlds first video games degree was offered here by Abertay University all the way back in 1997, so we thought wed check out some of their more recent work. All in the name of social interaction, of course. Why is Abertay University so hot on gaming . At abertay, all the staff have either previously made video games or we currently make video games and we are all part of a research lab called the Abertay Game Lab that make really fun, experimental games that push the boundaries of Computer Gaming in different ways. So youve got some other students playing some other of your games over there. That game was created by dr mona bozdog who sloped on with lara. Now, mona, there are a lot of different games here, all telling interesting, different stories. Can you tell me a bit about what youve created here . This eerie, stifling hot landscape looks otherworldly, but in reality, were a couple of hours drive north of los angeles. This area, known as the coso range, was formed by several volcanic eruptions almost 500,000 years ago. Back then, rivers would run through here, creating this dramatic, unpredictable terrain. I know we are in california, but i want you to picture somewhere completely different. I want you to imagine that im walking across the surface of the moon. Because the technology weve come to see today is going to be put through its paces ahead of a groundbreaking Lunar Mission due to take place in the next decade. One which should teach us more about the moon than weve ever known. This is a team from nasas famous jet propulsion lab, and this is axel, a robot that might one day explore areas of the moon that have been untouched for billions of years. There are more than a dozen huge caverns found on the moon, created when lava flowed quickly over the surface and hardened, leaving a void underneath. Eventually, parts of that lava surface collapsed like a sinkhole. Its into these holes axel will dive in its a two wheeled rover that can operate upside down or right side up, and thats important so this particular design youre looking at, its a two wheeled rover that can operate upside down or right side up, and thats important when you are going over extreme terrain. You could be easily tipped up the other way and we want to be able to survive that. The other thing you notice this has no steering wheels. The reason why it has two wheels is because it is differentially driven, so it can go along, it can go forward and backward, but can also take turns and turn around. Like a wheelchair. 0bviously, were not going to test this in the parking lot here, but it does mean that we have to go 300 metres in that direction and the only way to do that, im afraid, is to carry it. This is a team which certainly knows what its doing. They were involved in getting the incredible mars rover to the red planet. The moon may seem like a shorter, simpler trip, but going back and getting deeper could unravel important mysteries. Were specifically targeting this pit crater in the sea of tranquillity. And this is something that they discovered only a few years ago. Some of the craters on the moon actually arent your traditional impact craters, they are these very strange, vertical bore holes into the moon and no ones exactly sure what those are, but what we do know is that theres a lot of geological history thats exposed there on the side of this crater wall. If axel does make it to the moon, it will be attached to a lunar rover, which will land a few hundred feet away from where the team wants to explore. Through that tether, axel will get its power and instructions from the team and itll act like a rope as it abseils down into the moons depths. Today, we of course dont have the lunar rover with us, and so axel will be supported by a rock. This is tricky business. If its not secure, we could see axel plummet to the rocks below. Its a long, slow, nervous process with a few hiccups along the way as axel struggled with the unforgiving volcanic terrain. But it was mission accomplished. Axel was able to abseil its way down the cliffs edge, if only on earth for now. This would be the first repelling rover ever to be fielded off world, so if we can establish that technology and gain confidence in that, now we can start looking at places like mars. Theyre a little harder to get to but have lots of interesting questions that need answered. And if it works, theres a whole galaxy of possibilities as to where axel could go next. And if you thought that was cool, i was lucky enough to be joined onstage by axels little brother, puffer. Its the pop up flat folding explorer robot. Its fallen over on earth. Its actually designed to take impacts like that. Those balloons you saw is the material that these are made out of, that weve landed on mars before. 0k, wow, because this looks pretty flimsy. Yes, well, this is similar to a bullet proof fabric. We take it and we fold it up and that is that robot, and this origami shape takes the impacts very nicely. Ok, so its tougher than it looks. Now, tell me what its real world purpose is. This can take any instrument. This ones for a little micro imager, so we can do any science that youre looking to do wherever you want to go. These arent the only wheels we have for our two wheeled robots. Ok, so, if consumers were to buy one of these, because that is the aim, isnt it, what exactly would they be doing with it . Well, we can do citizen science, so they can take them out into the field, they can have different sensors on them and then we can get huge datasets that we can use to do state of the art science here on earth. 0k, and how much would it cost . Because this looks like a pretty pricey bit of kit. This one is its about 5,000 for the two wheels, but we can get them down to tens of dollars. 0k, quite a difference. Yes. This isnt the only robot youve got with you . No, it is not. Theres another one that is literally climbing the walls lets take a look at what weve got over here. What is this, exactly . This is our durable reconnaissance 0bservation platform. You can tell its a little bit of an eye that climbs up the wall and you can see the controls right there that can actually sense gravity. So its climbing the lift shaft. Its climbing quite nicely there, but whats it actually for . What is it for . So, its for basically surveillance. This is an earth application, but the same wheels we can put on these rovers and we can climb 60 degree slopes on a mars analogue. But youve also created something thats for digging beneath the surface. Were going to take a look at it here. The future of robotics is underground, so this is our exobiology extant life surveyor thats trying to get through the open window that cassini found on enceladus, moon of saturn, that goes right to an alien ocean. How easy to break through is that surface, do you think . This surface . Well, theres these active geysers or plume vents that we know are sourced from the ocean. So right here, well get our first taste and smell of an alien ocean. A huge thank you to you, your colleagues from nasa who also came, and of course, to all the bots. Weve got to be nice to them, i think. Applause hello and welcome to the week in tech. It was the week that the video sharing app tiktok announced they would be going to court to challenge a proposed ban by us President Trump. A usjudge has ruled that apple can continue to block the videogame fortnite from its app store for breaking its rules, for now. And facebook has blocked access in thailand to a million member group discussing the monarchy after the Thai Government threatened legal action as criticism of the monarchy is deemed illegal in the country. It was also the week that google unveiled a new way to get your museum fix from your own home. Theyve made a number of prehistoric creatures and historical artefacts available to view in augmented reality. So you can have the apollo 11 command module in your living room. Although obviously, not to complete scale. Researchers at mit csail have created a system that analyses the balance of wireless signals in a room. By startling a preloaded floor map, rf diary can tell what someone is doing, such as drinking or playing on a laptop. And finally, a surgical robot about the size of a tennis ball and weighs about the same as a penny has been created. Researchers at Harvard Wyss Institute and sony have developed the mini robot, which can perform precise procedures such as puncturing a tube only twice the width of a human hair. It is still being tested in mock surgeries but it could be used in real ones in the future. Applause robotic voice speaking. At. Professor Annalu Waller has dedicated 30 years of her life to researching technologies to improve communication for those who have difficulty speaking. Its very much like the predictive text on your phone, but, as we saw when we invited her onto the stage. Robotic voice . Words. It can be a very slow process. Minute. Actually telling a story in real time is laborious, time consuming. A lot of our focussed communication aids only type 8 10 words a minute. How on earth do you conduct a real conversation in that speed . Annalus team, in partnership with cambridge university, has created a new system that remembers what youve typed before and offers up whole sentence chunks in one go. Its hard to find whole sentences to use as i speak. So, as humans we always retell stories. So what im telling you now, ive told many people before. And this is where it gets even more clever. A Body Worn Camera observes where annalu is and who shes speaking to. It can then suggest sentences that are relevant to that situation. So, this is the Computer Vision brain behind our system. The camera ive got in my right hand here is the one the person wears around their neck, so the camera can see what they can see. And it can see the person, they are speaking to, so at the moment it sees me. And you can see on the screen it picks out my face to identify whether im a known person, whether im a friend, and if it knows me, who i am. It takes a guess from the whole environment it can see to say where are we . Are we in a cafe, at work . And this information we then use to predict the right sentences i might want to say in this environment with this communication partner. The more annalu uses it, the more it learns and the faster the system becomes. And the system might think were in a museum, im talking to a person ive never met before. That might be an opportunity to talk about my work, so it will bring up sentences ive used before to talk about my work so i can access them timely. Stories are really important because they provide the fundamental essence of being human. We are our stories. We are all very talkative people. Laughter i mean i know people who repeat themselves over and over again. We all do laughter i mean i know people who repeat themselves over and over again. Laughter we all do laughter and applause we were also lucky enough to be joined by the minister for Public Finance and digital economy, kate forbes. And ceo of the Scottish Government backed Innovation Centre, data lab, gillian doherty. For anyone who doesnt know what data lab do, do you just want to tell them a little about what it is, gillian . Sure, so the data lab is scotlands Innovation Centre for data science and Artificial Intelligence. And ultimately, its about driving value for the country by leveraging our data better. And youve already had some life changing partnerships, havent you . Tell me about the cancer one. We have, yes. So, weve been working with the Beatson Cancer hospital on using Computer Vision technology to help the radiologists dealing delineate tumours from healthy tissues and complex neck cancers. Weve also worked across multiple of the health wards, using data to improve patient reported experience measures and Outcome Measures and integrate that with a clinical treatment as part of their unfortunate cancer journey. But looking at some of the issues there are in scotland today, high unemployment is of course one of them, how do you perceive technology affecting that . Because obviously there are pros and cons. Thats right. And technologys definitely going to disrupt the job market as we know it, but on the other hand, we also know that the Technology Sector in scotland is constantly looking for new skills and talent. So ourjob is to match the people that are currently looking for work with the businesses and the organisations that are looking for those skills. Jobs will change. There are jobs we do now that didnt exist 20, 30, 40 years ago. And depending on the research you read, for primary children, up to 60 of those children starting that are school right now will have jobs that dont even exist just now. So its hard to get your mind around that, but whose grandmother was a Search Engine optimisation specialist . Whose grandpa was a vlogger . And you are two women working in technology. Do you really think that things are changing . Very, very slowly. So they are changing and were seeing that in scotland, because closing the gender gap is key to what were trying to achieve. But its about going into primary schools and encouraging young women and girls to think that they can actually work in this sector and work in this area and see incredible role models. Now, we all know about cars and pollution, right . But how about a vehicle where the more you drive it, the cleaner it makes the air . Well, the hyundai nexo claims to do just that. Where youd normally have an engine, theres a fuel cell stack, where hydrogen and oxygen combine to create the electricity that powers the car and charges the battery. But can it actually clean the air . Well, we braved the very cold dundee air to put it to the test. So, over here we have robin hayles from hyundai. Hi. Hey, whats gonna happen . So, were gonna demonstrate how the filtration system of a hyundai nexo cleans the air as it drives along. What were going to do is weve got a pump here, which were gonna add this, which is a jar of pmio and pm2. 5 particulates. Nasty stuff yeah. This is the stuff that comes out of trucks, cars, buses as theyre driving along. So thats soot and carbon and stuff like that . Yes, yep. All right, so, no sniffing that then while we open the jar. No. Were going to bung that in there, arent we . Yep, my colleague, mr shim, hes gonna add that into the system. 0k. Keep an eye on what happens to the air as we do it. Youll see the soot go into the balloon. Wow look at that that looks filthy imagine what would happen if you held this piece of white paper up to the exhaust of your petrol car, its going to get pretty grey, isnt it . Give it a squeeze. Ah, yeah, this is quite satisfying, actually. Get as much air onto that is possible and lets just see. Smells all right, i have to say. All right, lets have a look. Show that to the camera. Thats marvellous. So pretty much, yeah, theres pretty much nothing on there. So thats good, but weve also we can also show you what the car has filtered out of the air. So lets have the clean filter in. This is what the filter looked like when it went into the car, weve taken this one out of the car now. And, hm, can you see the difference . Yeah, so thats what it sucked out of the air in the last two or three minutes. Yep, thats all the particulates out of the air, so its everything in thatjar, its now on that filter. Everything in the jar is now on the filter. Nice. Now theres one other thing that Hydrogen Cars produce, and thats water vapour, which youre assuring me is very, very clean, is that right . Its very clean. Ill show you how clean. All right, so were gonna get a glass of water, or as its known in dundee, ice, out of the ball, and you think that is very, very clean water . Yep, thats pure water. So this isnt tap water, this isnt bottled water you get in the shop, this is 100 pure water. And robin assures me its so pure you can drink it and dont keel over. So, uh, well, go on then. You said it. Go on, give us give us a. Ugh a bit plasticky, but better than some supermarket bottles. Three, two, one. Push back inside, and a click live show wouldnt be a click live show without waving, shouting, and generally getting a bit overexcited. Cheering all that remains is to thank everyone who turned up to see us live and of course you at home for watching. Go, go, go yes, yes, yes theme music hello there. Summer warmth has been in short supply over the last few days. In fact, on sunday morning, one very sheltered spot in county down, Northern Ireland had a temperature just a fraction below freezing. And monday morning is getting off to a rather cool start as well. But a largely dry start to the new week. Later in the week, it will turn wetter, windier and a bit warmer for a time before cooler weather returns just in time for the weekend. So, we start monday with High Pressure in charge of the scene. Underneath this area of High Pressure with light winds, temperatures have been dropping away. But it means a mostly dry day. We will see some spells of sunshine and i think quite a lot of cloud will bubble up in the sky and that cloud spreading out, i think some places will have grey skies by the afternoon. Temperature wise, another disappointing one, 15 18 degrees. The winds will be strengthening up towards the north west. And later in the day we will see some cloud and outbreaks of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, perhaps north west scotland as well. A very weak frontal system trying to push its way in, but elsewhere it stays dry through the night. Not quite as chilly, although some spots particularly in northern and eastern areas will get down into single digits. So, for tuesday, this frontal system will make some progress eastwards, but its running into High Pressure, thatll squeeze a lot of the energy out of our weather front. You can barely see it on tuesdays weather chart. Some cloud, some splashes of rain across parts of north west scotland, maybe Northern Ireland. But, elsewhere, its looking predominantly dry with some spells of sunshine. Temperatures starting to creep upwards a little bit. And then as we move out of tuesday and into wednesday, this next frontal system will have a bit more life about it. So that will bring some slightly heavier and persistent rain and the rain will get further south eastwards thistime. Although i think east anglia and the south east of england will probably stay dry for a good part of the day. Turning quite windy as well. Those are the average wind speeds, we could have gusts of 50mph or more for the northern and Western Isles of scotland. But with those winds coming up from the south west, temperatures will be a little bit higher, 17 degrees in glasgow, 20 in london. Thursday likely to be the warmest day of the week. Still some rain in places. Into the weekend, it turns cooler again, but there will be a lot of dry weather. Value more welcome to bbc news im Lewis Vaughan jones. Our top stories arrests in belarus, as tens of thousands protest in minsk and Security Forces block off areas to deter demonstrators. Todays protest was very different to the protests of previous sundays. As you can see, a lot more police, much tighter security. 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