about midnight. and i'm thinking, "oh my goodness, you know, and ijust started feeling myself sort of overheating. why do you want to talk about this publicly? the more we can talk about cancer, the less of a struggle it might be to cope with it, and it helps, you know, it is helpful. miss butler's cancer was picked up after she'd been for a routine mammogram? a number of international studies have highlighted that uptake of cancer screening, like mammograms, is generally lower amongst people of colour. i'm georgette oni. i'm an oncoplastic breast surgeon, i remove cancers and i do reconstruction. women have said to me that they don't think it applies to them because the information that they get, they don't really see anybody that looks like them in the leaflet, for instance. overall, compared to where we were 10, 20, 30 years ago, yes, you know, breast cancer treatment very, very good. but we are still seeing... despite that, we're still seeing disparities, and so there's always work to do. after we spoke, dawn butler went in for life—saving surgery,