we'rejoined now by dominik stillhart from the international committee of the red cross. good morning. i do not know if you manage to catch that incredible conversation we were just having. about the situation in ukraine. we have reported on the programme residents including women and children came underfire residents including women and children came under fire as they tried to leave mariupol at the weekend when the ceasefires were supposed to be in place. what can the red cross do to try to ensure that a ceasefire is supported to protect people trying to get to safety? protect people trying to get to safe ? ,., .. protect people trying to get to safe ? ,., ., ., ., ., protect people trying to get to safe ? ., ., ., ., safety? good morning to all of you and thank you _ safety? good morning to all of you and thank you for _ safety? good morning to all of you and thank you for having _ safety? good morning to all of you and thank you for having me - safety? good morning to all of you and thank you for having me on i safety? good morning to all of you| and thank you for having me on the programme. i want to say how heartbreaking this testimony is we just heard. i have myself received calls in switzerland some people who have relatives, elderly people,