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The restrictions are coming from friday and the mayor andy burnham has warned that might mean a winter of real hardship for people but some of real hardship for people but some of the regions conservative mps have accused him of putting his ego before the interests of local people. Were going behind the scenes at one of yours bigger specialist cancer hospitals. We are meeting the staff, the patients and families fighting cancer in these strange days of covid. Special delivery from the royal mail. The company will begin collecting letters and parcels from homes. Itll cost you up to 72p could it costjobs at the post office . Its another fabulous night in paris for Manchester United. Marcus rashford scores a dramatic later winner as they beat Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League. Going in we are going in touchdown for the nasa probe taking samples from an asteroid. Its hoped it could reveal some of the secrets of the solar system. Good morning. Its a fairly cloudy and wet day for most of us today, the heaviest rain in the south and south east courtesy of the remnants of storm barbara ann for a time windy especially so on the south coast. All the details in ten minutes. Its wednesday, october 21st. Our top story. The Health Secretary, matt hancock, has said the door is still open for further talks about a £60 million support package for Greater Manchester. The region will be placed in the strictest tier of coronavirus measures on friday morning but local leaders and the government have not yet agreed on the amount of financial help needed. Six tory mps have written to mayor andy burnham accusing him of putting his ego above the people of Greater Manchester. Our Political Correspondent Jessica Parker reports. People in Greater Manchester now know that tougher restrictions are arriving but the wait goes on to find out what extra cash there will be to support businesses and workers, as pubs and bars that cant serve substantial meals will be forced to close. As part of a wider package of support, an offer of £60 million, say ministers, still stand. This offer was proportionate to the support weve given the Liverpool City Region and lancashire but, regrettably, the mayor rejected it. Of course, we do not want businesses in Greater Manchester to be disadvantaged, so that offer remains on the table. Our door is open. But labour accused borisjohnson of pulling the plug on talks. What a petty, vindictive, callous response in a national crisis, mr speaker. The Prime Minister may think he is punishing the politicians. In fact, he is punishing the people of Greater Manchester. And the labour politician whos being leading calls for more support, andy burnham. Some conservative mps from Greater Manchester last night claimed hed put his ego before peoples interests. He says he is standing up for an area already hard hit by months of restrictions. At no point today were we offered enough to protect the poorest people in our communities through the punishing reality of the winter to come. The nhs and lives would be put at risk without tougher rules here, thats what borisjohnson said last night, so, he is introducing the changes from friday. Given the Public Health situation, i must now proceed with moving Greater Manchester, as i say, to the very high alert level because not to act would put manchesters nhs and the lives of many of manchesters residents at risk. Despite all the acrimony, politicians on all sides will be under pressure to get an agreement by then. Jessica parker, bbc news. In a moment, well speak to our Political Correspondent nick eardley in westminster, but first lets go to danjohnson whos in manchester. Just a couple of days before these restrictions come into force on businesses needed more answers. Good morning. Good morning, there is still confusion about how much money will be available here. We know the government is giving the region £22 million of that is the automatic package that comes with the tier 3 measures, that very high level of restrictions, to support local enforcement and to raise the capacity for test and trace in the region, that is the same sort of deal done with the other regions that have gone into those tier 3 restrictions. Then the other part of the money is this other £60 million on offerfrom the the money is this other £60 million on offer from the government yesterday but rejected by the mayor and local Council Leaders. They thought they needed at least 65 million, they were talking originally of a figure of 80 million oi originally of a figure of 80 million or 90 million but said they were prepared to negotiate down to 65 million but no lower but the government was only offering 60 which is where things broke down yesterday. It will seem very strange to some people this is all fallen apartand to some people this is all fallen apart and theres so much bitterness over what is £5 million, quite a small sum of money especially for the government. But that means there is still no deal and the potential is still no deal and the potential is government ministers have said for further talks to take place about whether that 60 million will be available and what it will be used for, how many businesses and workers it will support once the measures coming from friday morning because there has been strong local concerns that people will suffer through this winter with further disruption to social life here as we are seeing in other areas, too, people on low wages who wont be able to go to work because of businesses closed in the city and local politicians were saying some unity, notjust local politicians were saying some unity, not just this local politicians were saying some unity, notjust this cutting along political lines, some unity between the conservatives in this region saying the government should do more to help people here. Dan, thank you. Were joined now by our Political Correspondent nick eardley in westminster. A lot of focus on Greater Manchester but discussions are ongoing with other councils as well about potentially moving into tier 3 . Thats right, we know of at least four the government is having talks with at the moment because theyve told us we have South Yorkshire, which seems to be on the brink of agreeing some sort of deal, we have West Yorkshire as well, nottinghamshire and the north east, and they will be looking at whats happened in the last few days to figure out roughly what they are going to get as regions if they end up going to get as regions if they end up in that highest tier of restrictions. 0n up in that highest tier of restrictions. On one hand you have what dan johnson was restrictions. On one hand you have what danjohnson was telling us about, which is the government saying this is how we have roughly calculated it for liverpool and lancashire so far so we will give you something along a similar formula. Those councils that are potentially looking at tier 3 will be looking at that but there is also some challenges for the governments strategy because it has been shown to be slow. Those negotiations with Greater Manchester took 11 days before they broke down in acrimony yesterday without agreement. The whole idea was that youd have local buy in, notjust expertise but local politicians sharing some of the responsibility for the decisions being taken. Certainly in Greater Manchester that wont be the case. So there are some questions for the government about that strategy. The labour party and parliament will try to force a vote which would create a framework for any areas going into tier 3 promising people who couldnt work 80 of their salary, like their originalfurlough work 80 of their salary, like their original furlough scheme. Itll be interesting to see if any conservatives side with that today. Thanks, nick. We have one of those Greater Manchester mps, lisa nandy from the labour party, at 7 10am, talking about the extra money from government, and we will speak to the communities minister, robert jenrette, who was here on monday and, obviously. Louise we will speak to robert jenrette today. In other news. Scientists have developed a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid the long Lasting Impact of coronavirus infection. The researchers at Kings College london, and the Health Company zoe, hope it can be used to identify patients that might benefit from early treatment. Our Health Correspondent Catherine Burns reports. Vicky says she was the fittest shed ever been at the start of this year, from zip lining on holiday, to going to the gym several times a week. But she got covid in march and says shes had wave after wave of illness ever since. Ankles or my wrists will suddenly get very sore and swell up. I lost my sense of taste and smell again. It just went completely. Ive definitely got some brain fog. I get really wheezy and breathless, and i have to use an inhaler twice a day now. Researchers think thousands of people in the uk are going through something similar. They asked volunteers to log their symptoms on the covid symptoms study app and found that most said they were back to normal in 11 days or less. But they estimate that one in seven people who get ill with coronavirus will be sick for more than a month, which is how they define long covid. Then longer covid. They think one in 20 are affected for more than eight weeks, and that one in 45 are likely to be sick for more than 12 weeks. I havent been able to work for seven months now. The governments worried about long covid too. Its put out this film with people who are suffering from it. It can totally wipe me out just doing basic things. The department of health and social care says this research should be a sharp reminder of the long term and potentially devastating effects it can have. Scientists have used the data, though, to come up with a tool that can predict in seven out of ten cases who is likely to go on to develop long covid. We wanted to have an idea of how much that might affect people, especially as we are going into a second wave now in the pandemic, where more and more people are going to get exposed to the virus. So, clearly, if people are having symptoms for more than two months, thats going to have significant economic and social implications. The strongest sign that someones likely to get long covid is having more than five symptoms in their first week of illness. Next, age, over 50s are slightly more likely to get it. Women seem more susceptible, as well as people with asthma. Vicki is under 50, but she did have more than five symptoms and describes herself as vaguely asthmatic. Now seven months in, she has good days and bad days, but feels that shes getting better, slowly. Catherine burns, bbc news. Nigerian soldiers have opened fire on Anti Government protesters in the city of lagos. Amnesty International Said it had received credible evidence of excessive use of force. A witness told the bbc that army troops advanced on protesters and there may be 20 dead and at least 50 injured. The authorities have promised an investigation into the shooting. Mps will debate a labour motion today calling for Free School Meals to continue during School Holidays in england until next easter. Its after the england and Manchester United footballer Marcus Rashford set up a petition, urging the government to go further in tackling child hunger. Its been signed by more than 300,000 people. Downing street says it has already taken substantial action to make sure children dont go hungry. Those are some of the main stories this morning. Carroll will be with us or morning. Are we talking storm barbara at all . Good morning, we are looking at a cloudy day with rain from many parts of the uk but the heaviest rain will be courtesy of the remnants of storm barbara along southern and south eastern areas, and on the coastline we will be looking at strong winds, gusty winds is an area of rain across scotland, another one across england and wales and this is what is the remnants of storm barbara, an area of low pressure. Through the day it will move northwards and eastwards. Whenever you see the colour green, it is indicating where you can expect heavy bursts. From sussex over to kent, along the coastline to east anglia, this is where the strongest gusts of wind probably. Through the afternoon, more showery along the Channel Islands and across parts of southern england but you can see we have the remnants of storm barbara and take its time before it eventually clears lincolnshire, for example, and parts of east anglia. North of that, north england, Northern Ireland, cloud, showers, then back into this showery rain across northern and western scotland. A mild day, not as not as mild as yesterday. We reached a 19 in kew gardens and today we are looking at 17 in london. The wind strengthening across Northern Ireland through the afternoon and it will ease up a touch as we head up towards the northern and Western Isles where currently it is gusty. I will have a lot more in the weather forecast, we will look ahead in thank you, see you later on. Lets take a look at todays papers. Most of the National Papers are dominated by the government imposing the highest coronavirus restrictions on Greater Manchester with the times claiming that number ten is at war with the Greater Manchester mayor andy burnham over the level of compensation on offer. The Manchester Evening News takes a more partisan line. It has picked up on a comment by andy burnham that the government is playing poker with peoples lives and it depicts borisjohnson as the joker in a pack of cards. The telegraph warns that other northern cities could be set to follow Greater Manchesters fate. It reports that South Yorkshire is expected to agree to tier 3 measures today, while West Yorkshire, the north east of england, teesside and nottingham continue with talks. And the daily mail has a different lead story. It reports on what it calls a chilling letter from the metropolitan police to pub landlords in london, demanding they collect the ids and addresses of drinkers to prevent households mixing and breaking coronavirus regulations. It also carries a picture of the actess naomie harris, after a man was convicted yesterday of stalking her. Shall we go for the inside pages . Im going to talk about tea. Drinking a lot of tea, this is good news for tea drinkers out there. I expect there are quite a few of you having a cup right there. It can lower your blood pressure, a study found that diets rich in flavinols and found that they had similar changes to those on the mediterranean or low pressure diet. You like i have recently put up my cups of tea from one day to two a day i have one before i start this programme, andi day i have one before i start this programme, and i have introduced one later in the day. Revolutionary the claim in this story is that ayres rock appears in the yorkshire dales. The magic of sunniest photography makes unlit photography. It may appear that ayres rock has magically appeared in the yorkshire dales, but it hasnt. This is ingleborough in the yorkshire dales, lit beautifully by the sun, and it was taken by i believe a farmer. Hold on. Im trying to find his name. Bear with me. Shall i get a cup of tea while you do that . You only lots of tea. White among you like it is andy umeed in. He is not a farmer, i made that up. But his his father. You like you we re but his his father. You like you were meant to be making me tea every single day for a week after i beat you at skipping. Nina, remember . She wont let you forget. 0k, she wont let you forget. Ok, i will make you a cup of tea. We are talking about the royal mail. And the effect of coronavirus. Im trying to digest the news that dan has doubled his brew intake for the day. Big news over lockdown, did you use Parcel Delivery more than you ever have before . Most of us did. We had to. Say yes good morning. The Coronavirus Crisis has really sped up the move to shopping online. We had to when nonessential retail was shut down during lockdown. But there has been some evidence that that habit has now stuck. Online sales were up nearly 50 in august compared to february, and nonessential retail had reopened in junein nonessential retail had reopened in june in england, but clearly lots of people were sticking with deliveries. One Research Company estimates that almost half of consumers think that the pandemic will have had a permanent effect on the way that they shop. More things being bought online means more things being sent back. According to royal mail, over half of clothing, 53 of clothes are sent back. And about two fifths of electrical products. This morning its launched a new service to collect parcels from the doorstep using its network of posties. You will of course have to pay. 60p if its a pre paid return from say a retailer. 72p if its not, in which case youll have to pay that on top of the postage fee. Itll be available six days a week, and you can send up to five parcels per address. So, theoretically, convenient for consumers. But can it work practically . And could it take business away from post offices . Calum greenhow is the chief executive officer at the National Federation of subpostmasters, representing those who run post offices. Hejoins us this morning. On the face of this, it is really convenient. What are your concerns . This is a worrying development for our members, and many of our members over the last three months have been highlighting really just how concerned they are in relation to this as it may have a negative impact on their business. And we certainly believe that branches are best. Our colleagues are specialists, they own and operate their own local business, they are local employers and the last thing that we want to see given to the covid where we have been open and gone well and above and beyond what is required of us is to see anything that could potentially be detrimental to our business. From the perspective of the consumer, when i return packages to the post office, it takes me the best part of half an hour. For 72p maximum, i can say that half an hour of my time. 0k, say that half an hour of my time. Ok, thats a valid point. However i would say that for many consumers, actually the local post office is a convenient place for them to go. Many are open early in the morning till late at night, and even open on a sunday as well. And of course you will be able to get a full range of services at the post office, so there will be no restriction on the number of parcels or items that you can take into your local post office, there wont be any additional charges on top as well, and if you have priority items like special delivery, they will be delivered has guaranteed the next working day. So from a convenience point of view, 11,500 post offices around the country, open for longer hours. So it is a good thing to come into the post office, and as a result people need branches. The union have told us they believe it is safe. Some consumers who were traditionally used the post office would feel safer having a parcel collected, but also this represents innovation and change, and in an increasingly crowded market where for example hermes are already doing collection, this is what the post office has to do to thrive in the market. I get a valid point you are putting a cross, but the thing i would say there is if you think about it from the consumers point of view and i have had it my self where you have sat and waited and waited, looking and watching for the delivery van to arrive, and then you have that aspect of, you get a notification that they havent been able to deliver and you are sitting there thinking, i havent seen them, or you are sitting and waiting all day, whereas actually you can go down to the post office, and many are open early in the morning till late at night seven days a week, so from a convenience point of view, again, we would encourage people to go and receive the Excellent Service that they can at their local post office. Flavinols, many calum greenhow, thank you very much. There is a danger that if we dont use our post offices, they could disobey completely. Can the posties handle five parcels per household . Fiona will be later at a Postal Delivery Service in bristol because they have been trialling to see how it has been working out. Thank you very much, we will see you later. Let us know what you think about that throughout the morning. We talked a little bit about this yesterday. It was a manoeuvre that was out of this world. Last night a nasa spacecraft touched down on an asteroid 200 million miles from earth, in an historic attempt to take a sample from its surface. Scientists hope americas osiris rex managed to grab bits of rock that could hold fascinating clues about the origin of life on earth and the creation of our solar system. Paul hawkins reports. Joy at nasa. The osiris rex probe lands on the bennu asteroid. Were going in, were going in. Touchdown declared. Then just seconds later. Sample collection is complete. It might well have the biggest haul of extra terrestrial rocks since the moon landings 50 years ago. I can tell you that everything went just exactly perfect, which is kind of the hallmark of this team. We have consistently beaten expectations over and over again. We have overcome the amazing challenges that this asteroid has thrown at us and the spacecraft appears to have acted flawlessly. And lift off for osiris rex. This mission is an incredible achievement because bennu, spinning through space 330 million kilometres from earth, is bigger than the empire state building. And even though the probe arrived there in 2018, its taken two years to find a suitable landing site because scientists thought the surface would be sandy, instead it was rocky. But eventually they did identify a site called nightingale, about eight metres wide. Now the probe has successfully landed, avoiding contact with surrounding rocks, gathered its sample and lifted off, bound for earth. On board, a sample of rocks and dust which should tell us something about the chemistry of the planets and the sun when they formed 11. 5 billion years ago. The only question now is, how much did the probe gather . But it wont be until september 2023 when they can get their hands on it. Paul hawkins, bbc news. We will have a bit more about that later on. We will also be talking to an artist who has made a name for himself in pet portraits. Yes, he calls himself hercule Van Wolfwinkle, and his speciality is being able to draw a really rubbish picture of your pet. Dont believe us . Take a look at this. Phil heckels, as hes otherwise known, started all this off as a bit of a joke, but its grown thanks to social media, and phil now takes commissions which raise money for a homeless charity. So stay tuned for our interview with hercule and you can see more of his amazing work. Well speak to him just before eight oclock this morning. It does capture something of the pets he has done some pictures of our pets as well. Im always a bit worried when a producer brings you the day before and says, send us a picture of your. Whatever it might be. We will see what happens. Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. Good morning from bbc london. Im alpa patel. The government wants public transport in the capital to be part funded in the future through council tax. Fares revenue has dropped 90 since the covid crisis began and the proposal is part of negotiations over a new funding deal for transport for london. Its also suggested that the congestion charge be extended further north and south and fares go up above inflation. Londons mayor says the demands are a triple whammy on londoners. One in ten incidents attended to by the London Ambulance service during the coronavirus pandemic involved Mental Health issues, new figures show. Between january and september, the number of incidents related to Mental Health increased each month, withjune seeing the highest number of these call outs. A collection of personal stories from members of the Windrush Generation are the subject of a new exhibition at the university of greenwich. Over the summer, the group of pensioners met by Video Conferencing, to share their early memories of settling in england. Together they curated the installation which celebrates black history month. Those involved say their message is an important one. I wanted my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to know what it was like for us when we first arrived and what our legacy is, because i think too many people have not told their stories. And we are the generation who are basically lost. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. On the tube problems on the overground, theres no service between willesdenjunction and Clapham Junction because of a faulty train. Its busy around vauxhall as Vauxhall Bridge remains closed. In cricklewood, cricklewood lane is closed from the station to Cricklewood Broadway for roadworks. At palmers green, there are temporary traffic lights at Aldermans Hill because of a burst water main. Now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. Hello, good morning. Its a very soggy start to the day, and there is a met Office Weather warning in force for much of the rest of the day for heavy rain. A lot of rain falling within a short space of time. Plenty of surface water on the roads and the pavements and potentially from this of course some travel disruption. So the rain continues to move in from the south. Its also windy out there, gusts of wind across the london area up to 30 a0 mph for much of the rest of the morning into the first part of the afternoon. But the rain starts to clear. It will turn a lot more showery as we head through the second half of the day, but still some heavy downpours to come, perhaps brightening up towards the end of the day. But its still mild out there, top temperatures of 16 or 17 degrees celsius. Now, through this evening and overnight, still a few more showers to come, but generally turning drier, and the winds will ease down as well. Its a mild night to come, temperatures for the most part staying in double figures. Tomorrow a much drier looking day. Im not going to totally rule out the possibility of one or two showers, but there will be some sunny spells, and itll still be mild. Theres more rain in the forecast, though, for friday. Im back in half an hour. Now though its back to dan and louise. Hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and Louise Minchin. Its 6 30am. Well bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. Well be live at the christie hospital in manchester to see how coronavirus has affected Cancer Treatment. Well meet the care home residents who are using social media to dish out their sometimes surprising advice for life. And the comedian sara pascoe will tell us about her new sitcom based on the inner workings of her mind. And juliet stevenson, who plays her eccentric mum, will also be with us. Good morning, heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news. Health secretary matt hancock has said a £60 million offer to help Greater Manchester deal with the toughest covid restrictions remains on the table. The area will get £22 million to help enforce the tier 3 rules that begin in the area on friday, but local leaders want at least £65 million. Labour mayor andy burnham said people faced a a winter of real hardship but some conservative mps have accused mr burnham of putting his ego before the people of the region. Scientists researching the long term effects of coronavirus have developed a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid the long Lasting Impact of coronavirus infection. The researchers at Kings College london, and Health Company zoe, found older people, women and those with specific symptoms in the first week of illness, are more likely to have long term problems, but younger people are also affected. Mps will debate a labour motion today, calling for Free School Meals to continue during School Holidays in england until next easter. Its after the england and Manchester United footballer Marcus Rashford set up a petition urging the government to go further in tackling child hunger. Its been signed by more than 300,000 people. Downing street says it has already taken substantial action to make sure children dont go hungry. Weve been hearing this morning about the effects of long covid, and the impact it can have on peoples lives, months after theyve had coronavirus. The government is launching an Information Campaign later, and we have dr Rosemary Leonard with us now. Thanks forjoining us. Have you had patients who seem to have long covid . Yes, ive had a variety of patients. First going back to march when, actually, it was a doctor, previously perfectly fit and well doctor, she had confirmed covid, she worked in a hospital and she said, look, i normally run marathons and i keep getting a fever, a sore throat, whats going on . At that stage we didnt know about long covid but we do now. You talk about a doctor, someone who was fit. Is it across all age groups or what have you found . It is across all age groups and it seems to be unpredictable. Though the research from kings couege though the research from Kings College london says it is more likely to be older people and women, it seems to be those who have quite a nasty illness to begin with. Those who are only mildly affected, only have a mild illness, seem to get better, and although you hear this figure one in 20 getting it, it means 19 out of 20 get over it and get better. So how can you help treat them if this is going on for months after theyve had it . Treat them if this is going on for months after theyve had mm treat them if this is going on for months after theyve had it . It is difficult. Because it is a new illness, we are still researching the best way of doing this. We are now following what we do with anyone who has postviral fatigue, now following what we do with anyone who has postviralfatigue, which is to go gently, listen to your body and look after yourself. Im lucky my local hospital has actually set up my local hospital has actually set upa my local hospital has actually set up a clinic, particularly for those that have breathing difficulties following on from covid, so ive got expert help but i know that is not the case in parts of the country. Is it like anything youve seen before . It is similarto it like anything youve seen before . It is similar to post viral illness. People who get glandular fever, or the flu, people sometimes get an ongoing, lingering illness and we dont know why this is and it seems to happen with covid, just like it does with other viral illnesses. The other thing that has come out, this is from the university of glasgow, some research theyve done about looking at the first six weeks of the pandemic in lockdown, and they found it had a major impact on Mental Health. What is your response to that . Mental health is a huge issue here with this pandemic, and i think it needs much more attention. And one of the issues about going into tier 3 lockdown, the Mental Health affects of people who are stuck in their own homes are huge, and people who are basically fit and well but who are now working from home rather than going in to an office and meeting other people, we are social beings. As humans, we like to interact with other people and this pandemic has put paid to that and even people who have the most robust Mental Health are suffering and saying this is awful, i need to go out and meet people and i cant. And they are going what we would term stir crazy. It is more difficult now at this time of year because at least early on in the pandemic people could get outside and we were blessed with lovely, warm weather during lockdown. Now its dark outside and its making the problem much worse. So, what can people do . Firstly, acknowledge that you may be physically well but mentally you are not great. Try to speak to people you can speak to. I know speaking over zoom or the phone isnt the same. The other thing is contact your gp. I know people will say, but how . Phone us up. There are local Mental Health services which are expanding to cope with this Mental Health pandemic that we have got going on, where you can get counselling. It is remote, and not ideal. But there is someone there you can talk to. That is very good advice. Dr Rosemary Leonard, thank you for talking to us. It is 6 36am, and sally is here to talk about the man who keeps making headlines on the front and back pages what is it about Manchester United and paris . 18 months ago Marcus Rashford got a late goal in a thrilling Champions League win against Paris Saint Germain. And history repeated itself in the group stages last night. Katie gornall reports. Just 58 days ago, Paris Saint Germain superstars walked out into the Champions League final. Now it all starts again, and the first game of the group stages when anything still seems possible. Against the odds, Manchester United quickly took charge, winning a penalty that would bring forward their stand in captain Bruno Fernandes to hop, skip and miss. But there was hope. A second look would show the keeper, navas, had left his line. That meant a retake, and this time, fernandes held his nerve. Commentator and this time he gets it spot on. But psg boast one of europes most potent attacks. United would have expected a response, although not like this. An own goal from anthony martial, and theres no planning for that. But 18 months ago here in paris, united pulled off a memorable victory over psg. Perhaps with that in mind, they poured forward. Oh, thats brilliant and then Marcus Rashford delivered the winner, their dominance deserved. United have made a stuttering start to this season, but here, instead of stumbling, they found their stride. There was less excitement at Stamford Bridge where chelsea played out a goalless draw with sevilla. Their only real highlight came from goalkeeper Edouard Mendy who made a good save to keep the spanish side at bay. Talks have been held about creating a big, new, Breakaway League that would involve the top sides from across europe. Its apparently got the backing of fifa. Five premier league clubs have been approached about becoming founder members of the league, including champions liverpool and Manchester United. It would cost more than £4. 5 billion to set up, but the project is said to have a long way to go and the deal may not happen. But the ideas not been well received by fans. While so many clubs up and down the country are fearful for their very existence because of their loss of match day revenue, then there are others plotting the carving up of the cake on a global basis for when things get back to normal. Its clear that whats going on here as they want an even greater concentration of the worlds football wealth into the hands of a very small number of clubs. Really big day for wasps, with a decision expected to be made as to whether or not they can play in saturdays Premiership Rugby final. The club are waiting for the results of their latest round of coronavirus testing. Seven players have already tested positive and wont be able to play against exeter at twickenham. Any more positive results could mean they have to pull out of the final altogether. Bristol bears are on standby to replace them. And chris froome had a tricky first day at vuelta a espana. This is one of cyclings three big tours. But froome struggled to stay with the main pack, and drifted even further away during the penultimate climb. He is though still working his way back to full fitness after that horror crash which ruled him out of last years tour de france. I have to tell you i interviewed him a couple of days ago and i asked about getting back on the bike after the crash. I said, are you nervous about getting back on the bike . And he said, no because i cant remember it. Has no recollection of the crash whatsoever. Doesnt remember anything about it so he says its not a problem, i dont have nightmares about it, i have no recollection of that day. Dan dont have the bad thoughts louise we have some nice things on brea kfast louise we have some nice things on breakfast this morning, including rubbish pet portraits. And you have given us a picture of your lovely dog. Yes, very glamorous sadie, what have they done to her . Louise there she is on the left. There is her portrait on the right she doesnt look that bad. There is her portrait on the right she doesnt look that badlj there is her portrait on the right she doesnt look that bad. I think thatis she doesnt look that bad. I think that is going on my wall at home. Dan super cute isnt just that is going on my wall at home. Dan super cute isntjust you, sally. We will be speaking to the otters later on but we also have carols magnificent cat, donald. Wait for it. There he is. Slightly smaller gap between the old eyes there, carol, not sure how you feel about donald . Whats happened to my boy . He is so handsome as well he wont be too happy with that. Good morning, everybody. If you are just stepping out, make sure to take a brolly with you and if you are in the south and south east, make sure it is sturdy because it isnt just south east, make sure it is sturdy because it isntjust cloudy, there is heavy rain and the forecast, across southern and south eastern areas, and we will have the strongest gusts of wind, anywhere from sussex along kent and east anglia on that coastline. Those are the remnants of storm barbara and you can see on the satellite picture all this cloud, that is also storm barbara, producing heavy rain and strong winds across spain and france, barbara was named by the Spanish Met Service. Gusts of wind about 85 miles an hour in france yesterday, producing some rain across southern areas. We have another band across wales and Northern England, another one across Northern England, another one across northern and western scotland with showers this morning and a fair bit of cloud across Northern Ireland. If we focus first of all on storm barbara, itll push northwards and eastwards. Gusty wind as well. Further north, our rain band going through the afternoon and in between we see a band of rain across england fade with a lot of cloud left behind. The rain will have cleared by the afternoon the Channel Islands in parts of southern england with clouds left. It will take its time to clear lincolnshire and norfolk. Wales and north west england, a lot of cloud and showers with rain returning to Northern Ireland later with strengthening winds and he is the band are fragmenting rain across scotland. Temperatures today, 8 17 so for many of us still mild for this time of year but not as mild as yesterday when the temperature reached 19 at kew gardens. This evening and overnight, you can see how this band of rain eventually moves away, some showers left in its wa ke moves away, some showers left in its wake with rain left in parts of scotla nd wake with rain left in parts of scotland rotating around the area of low pressure and a lot of cloud, perhaps clearer skies in the south with a night, temperatures falling to between 7 11. On thursday, we still have the remnants of the low pressure producing rain across scotla nd pressure producing rain across scotland but look at the isobars whitening, a ridge of High Pressure builds in, which doesnt mean wall to wall blue skies. This rain in scotland eases through the afternoon, the wind wont be as strong. Still a bit of cloud producing the odd shower but they will be some breaks in the cloud and temperatures 8 16. Overnight thursday into friday there next band of rain with a band of rain from the west drifting eastwards and starting to fragment and behind it a return to fragment and behind it a return to bright spells, sunshine and showers but feeling cooler, 9 111. Im off to go and have a strong coffee having seen that picture of donald. Louise i dont blame you, carol. Dan dont let him see it he will be mortified since the pandemic hit in march, its estimated that millions across the uk have missed out on Cancer Screening, and fewer people have been referred to hospital but of course people have not stopped becoming sick. So, how are doctors still delivering life saving cancer care to those who need it, whilst keeping patients and staff safe from covid 19 . Breakfasts Jayne Mccubbin has been granted special access to manchesters christie hospital which is europes largest dedicated cancer centre. Shes there for us this morning. Good morning. We are at one of europes biggest specialist cancer hospitals, the christie in manchester. They are just getting ready for the patients this morning. Patients coming in in the next ten minutes, and for about a week we have been here meeting the patient tos, staff and families got people who are fighting cancer. Step inside one of the surgical wards here, and have a look around. They built two new surgical wards here at the christie, and two new chemo wards, andi christie, and two new chemo wards, and i will tell you why in a minute. First of all, let me take you back to march, because back then, as the pandemic hit, there was a problem. The life saving treatment that they do right here, day in, day out, and which suppressed peoples immune systems, was the very thing that the fear was could expose people to greater risk of covid, so that was the balance. Do you treat people for cancer, or do you pause that Cancer Treatment to protect them for this . At the time it was an unknown enemy, and it was a difficult balance. It led to many delays in treatments, delays in screening, and were paying the consequences of that today. Were going to talk more about that in a minute, but first, have a look at this film, because some of the people who work here and we re some of the people who work here and were treated here are just amazing, and their stories are incredible. Compared to lockdown, how busy is it right now . Maybe half. Gloria. Are you glad to see the patients coming back . Yes. Youve got one of the most important jobs here now, havent you, with covid . We have. The hospital wouldnt function without us. Its a lot quieter, obviously. You cant bring anybody, you know, like somebody for a bit of support with your. The waiting rooms are busy with patients, but not partners. Not families. To manage the virus, patients likejohn and carol have to come here alone. Who would normally be by your side . My husband. Oh, bless him. Give him a hello down the camera. Hello, tony what might be life or death news can no longer be heard with a loved one sitting at your side. John, i havejust overheard some good news from your lips. Ive just got the results of my scan. No growth, no spread. Ijust wish the wife was here to share it. Whats her name . Wifes names helen, and she is waiting in the car. Oh, wow. John, if i could high five you, i would. Thats what we want to see. The priority since the start of the pandemic has been to keep Cancer Services going. It was very eerie in those early days, because all of a sudden the hospital was very, very quiet. We had days where you would come in and do not know how many staff you had on duty that day. This is normally, you know, a busy, bustling hospital with waiting rooms full of patients and clinic rooms full of doctors and nurses. And all of a sudden that went. As lockdown hit, they were told they had the wrong ppe, and all operations were cancelled for three days. That was the moment carol was given her terminal diagnosis. I got the news by phone call. I was really shocked. The potential was we would make our patients extremely sick and extremely vulnerable if we were to treat them. Some patients there were very Difficult Conversations with, to say, are we going to treat them, are we not going to treat them . Was your fear that some of those really Difficult Conversations could shorten somebodys life . Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I said i will get through the treatment, and ill stay positive. There were pauses in chemo for some, but for those who stood to benefit the most, treatment was quickly restarted. Carol among them. She gained a chance to buy more time, but she lost access to the very things that made that time so precious. I mean, ive got 11 grandchildren. Oh, my days. And i cant, you know. You cant get their kisses and cuddles. Carol. Cancer in the time of covid is doubly cruel. For nick, the reality right now is that he has stage iv lung cancer. Its spread. And hes speaking anonymously because he hasnt been able to tell his mum the news as shes been under lockdown in a care home for six months. If you cant be with her and hold her hand and explain things properly . Yes. Shes best not knowing . Totally. Its just cruel to think that you cant be with her. You need her and she needs you. Yeah, a little bit of each. Be with each other. But, as it goes, we cant, so youve got to live with it. But step outside the christie into suburbia, and you will see some of the mammoth efforts being made to keep Cancer Services going, despite further local lockdowns. What was this room before . Laughter. I wouldnt use the word storage of rubbish, but. Sue is a christie radiologist. What was once herjunk room. Everyones got a room like it. It is now her workplace. For her and her colleagues, self isolation wont mean that important work has to stop. The bulk of our work is actually, you know, helping the clinician make the decision about the management of the patient. Im able to do almost all aspects of my work at home. Thats amazing. It is, and technologys great, and i think if its there we should be able to use it. Soo, you are going to hate me for this, but there is one shot. Ive got to film the slippers. Laughter. This is working from home in action why not . The show really must go on. When the hospital closed its doors to all but essential visits, another service was shut down, but not for long. Lets give sue a call. This is one of your ladies. No christie lady could access a christie wig, and ijust thought, this cant carry on. Within days, andrea had relaunched the christies free wig fitting service, virtually, from a Trading Estate here in stockport. Ringing one photo later, and sue was the very first to benefit. Hi, sue, how are you . Im very well, thank you, under the circumstances are you on whatsapp . Yes, lam. Send me a picture. That was on the tuesday. On the thursday afternoon, i had a wig. To be honest, i was so emotional about it, because that was a big bugbear, losing my hair. Between cancer and covid and baldness, you are honestly more worried about baldness, wont you . Yes, yes. Lets have a little twirl, please. This time last year, i would never have said i would have been sat talking to you like this. And the many compliments i have had, its just unbelievable. Aww. We are both sending you one of these. Its a virtual hug. Thank you so much, girls. You get better soon, sue. Yeah . With all this positivity, im sure i will. Yeah, exactly. 0h, oh, my goodness. We wish sue and everybody in that film the best of luck on their cancerjourney. There has been a herculean effort to keep Cancer Services going here, but across the country there are really significant delays, delays in treatment, in screening, in diagnosis, and everybodys still playing catch up with this. Take me back to march. You mentioned in the film that surgery had to stop here for three days. Just how hairy did things get . I cant tell you how difficult it was during that period of time. I rememberwe difficult it was during that period of time. I remember we had a message that came through that we might have to consider stopping surgery, so we all met and talked about it, and it was one of those times when we all look at each other and go, what are we going to do . So we put a halt on it during that period of time for three orfour it during that period of time for three or four days it during that period of time for three orfour days in it during that period of time for three or four days in total, it during that period of time for three orfour days in total, and over that three or four days, the amount of meetings that were over a weekend as well, the amount of meetings we had trying to figure out how we were going to deal with this, it was challenging. Keeping people safe, because you want to treat them but you dont want to expose them to greater risk. Absolutely. So you are playing catch up now, but you are also worried about rising Covid Infections and a rise in demand for Cancer Services because of these delays. How concerned are you . Very concerned. Before in the middle of the previous crisis, there was a period of quietness, and it was eerie, because normally here at christies we work 21w. And where do those patients go . We are starting to see them come backjust as the restrictions were lifted, but now we are going back towards that again. I worry that those patients who need that treatment arent necessarily going to get the treatment they need or get the access they need to. At the right time. Because obviously with the screening programmes, which you dont run, but the screening programmes of stopped around the country, not all are back running again just country, not all are back running againjust yet. Country, not all are back running again just yet. The country, not all are back running againjust yet. The problem is that if you dont identify cancer early enough, you have less chance of helping people survive, and an increased chance of surgery, which is why you have two new surgical wards to deal with it. Thats the idea. Obviously we are familiar with our old enemy, which is cancer, but we are less familiar with the current one, which is covid, and it is balancing those risks between the two which is the real challenge. But here at christies, we dont have an accident and emergency department, we dont have the pressures that other hospitals may have, so we are a covid card site, we can do those surgeries, deliver those treatments and reassure patients that we are open. Get those symptoms checked out. Thank you so much for your time. Very briefly, rupert, good morning to you. Rupert is in charge of security here. How has the atmosphere changed here, rupert . Well, back in march when we first had covid, it was confusing for every body because we didnt know what it was. Frightening. Quite frightening, but christie have got a structure in place which makes it safe for people to come here. You have got to keep covid out. Rupert took my temperature this morning, you are taking temperatures everyday. We do that the patients, staff and visitors as well. One thing christie have done is to keep that out for their own safety as well. Absolutely, that is why people cant come and visit loved ones while they are having all of this news and the treatment, people are here on their own, and the effort is to try and keep people safe and keep covid out. More from us later in the programme and across the rest of this week, some fascinating stories. Jayne, we will be back with you a little later, and thanks to everyone for letting us into common film, too. Loads to come for you this morning between now and quarter past nine. Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. Good morning from bbc london. Im alpa patel. The government wants public transport in the capital to be part funded in the future through council tax. Fares revenue has dropped 90 since the covid crisis began, and the proposal is part of negotiations over a new funding deal for transport for london. Its also suggested that the congestion charge be extended further north and south and fares go up above inflation. Londons mayor says the demands are a triple whammy on londoners. The met polices annual Autumn Campaign to tackle antisocial behaviour is under way. The Campaign Hopes to deal with an expected rise in violent crime, often experienced at this time of year. Officers will target the most dangerous offenders and increase patrols in hot spots. Despite lockdown, there have been more than 20 homicides in london this year for the sixth year in a row. One in ten incidents attended to by the London Ambulance service during the coronavirus pandemic involved Mental Health issues, new figures show. Between january and september, the number of incidents increased each month, withjune seeing the highest number of these call outs. A collection of personal stories from members of the Windrush Generation are the subject of a new exhibition at the university of greenwich. Over the summer, the group of pensioners met by Video Conferencing, to share their early memories of settling in england. Together they curated the installation which celebrates black history month. I wanted my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to know what it was like for us when we first arrived and what our legacy is, because i think too many people have not told their stories. And we are the generation lets take a look at the travel situation now. On the tube still problems on the overground, theres no service between willesdenjunction and Clapham Junction. Its busy around vauxhall as Vauxhall Bridge remains closed. In cricklewood cricklewood lane is closed from the station for roadworks. Now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. Hello, good morning. Its a very soggy start to the day, and there is a met Office Weather warning in force for much of the rest of the day for heavy rain. A lot of rain falling within a short space of time. Plenty of surface water on the roads and the pavements and potentially from this of course some travel disruption. So the rain continues to move in from the south. Its also windy out there, gusts of wind across the london area up to 30 a0 mph for much of the rest of the morning into the first part of the afternoon. But the rain starts to clear. It will turn a lot more showery as we head through the second half of the day, but still some heavy downpours to come, perhaps brightening up towards the end of the day. But its still mild out there, top temperatures of 16 or 17 degrees celsius. Now, through this evening and overnight, still a few more showers to come, but generally turning drier, and the winds will ease down as well. Its a mild night to come, temperatures for the most part staying in double figures. Tomorrow a much drier looking day. Im not going to totally rule out the possibility of one or two showers, but there will be some sunny spells, and itll still be mild. Theres more rain in the forecast, though, for friday. Im back in half an hour. Plenty more on our website at the usual address. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Louise Minchin and dan walker. Our headlines today. The door is still open. As Greater Manchester heads towards the highest level of covid restrictions after talks collapsed, the Health Secretary says a financial deal is still available. It sounds like they are talking over money and that will continue but the restrictions are coming to this city and the mayor andy burnham has warned the people are facing a winter of real hardship but some of the regions conservative mps have accused him of putting his own ego before the interests of local people here. Its another fabulous night in paris for Manchester United. Marcus rashford scores a dramatic later winner, as they beat Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League. Touchdown for the nasa probe taking samples from an asteroid. Its hoped it could reveal some of the secrets of the solar system. Good morning today itll be fairly cloudy, most of us will see some rain, the heaviest of which will be in the south and south east with gusty winds courtesy of the remnants of storm barbara. More details in ten minutes. Its wednesday, october 21st. Our top story. The Health Secretary, matt hancock, has said the door is still open for further talks about a £60 million support package for Greater Manchester. The region will be placed in the strictest tier of coronavirus measures on friday morning but local leaders and the government have not yet agreed on the amount of financial help needed. Six tory mps have written to mayor andy burnham accusing him of putting his ego above the people of Greater Manchester. Our Political Correspondent Jessica Parker reports. People in Greater Manchester now know that tougher restrictions are arriving but the wait goes on to find out what extra cash there will be to support businesses and workers, as pubs and bars that cant serve substantial meals will be forced to close. As part of a wider package of support, an offer of £60 million, say ministers, still stands. This offer was proportionate to the support weve given the Liverpool City Region and lancashire but, regrettably, the mayor rejected it. Of course, we do not want businesses in Greater Manchester to be disadvantaged, so that offer remains on the table. Our door is open. But labour accused borisjohnson of pulling the plug on talks. What a petty, vindictive, callous response in a national crisis, mr speaker. The Prime Minister may think he is punishing the politicians. In fact, he is punishing the people of Greater Manchester. And the labour politician whos been leading calls for more support, andy burnham. At no point today were we offered enough to protect the poorest people in our communities through the punishing reality of the winter to come. £20 million only and they will try to pick off individual councils. £20 million only and they will try to pick off individual councilsm is brutal, to be honest, isnt it . Some conservative mps from Greater Manchester last night claimed hed put his ego before peoples interests. He says he is standing up for an area already hard hit by months of restrictions. The nhs and lives would be put at risk without tougher rules here, thats what borisjohnson said last night, so, he is introducing the changes from friday. Given the Public Health situation, i must now proceed with moving Greater Manchester, as i say, to the very high alert level because not to act would put manchesters nhs and the lives of many of manchesters residents at risk. Despite all the acrimony, politicians on all sides will be under pressure to get an agreement by then. Jessica parker, bbc news. In a moment, well speak to our Political Correspondent nick eardley in westminster, but first lets go to danjohnson whos in manchester. Good morning to you once again. Friday morning is when the restrictions come into force. I suppose one of the points from a local business point of view there is still no understanding how much support there will be. Absolutely, yes, the figures are a bit confusing. That £22 million clarified yesterday will come to the city but that is may need to support with enforcing these new restrictions and to help with extra capacity for test and trace in the region. The £60 million on offer from the government is what was being discussed between local leaders and government ministers, thatis leaders and government ministers, that is what they couldnt agree on, the government wouldnt budge higher, and andy burnham was talking originally about 90 million but said he was prepared to do a deal at around 65 million. There was no agreement to be found yesterday, which is where the talks broke down. Andy burnham said it wasnt fair to accept less than that because he thought without the money he couldnt do enough to look after the people in the city who will be affected. Those whose businesses have to close who are out of work directly because of the restrictions, they are likely to qualify for the two thirds of their wages effectively furlough support that will continue so this was about local leaders being able to top that up local leaders being able to top that up with more money of their own or to support other people who will be indirectly affected, perhaps taxi drivers or people working in other industries or restaurants whose takings will be down who might have to lay off workers. Those other things local leaders were holding out for. There is no agreement yet but it sounds like, as matt hancock said, the doors open and they can continue talking about it but there isa continue talking about it but there is a lot of bitterness about the way its been handled and to a degree its been handled and to a degree its come down to some personalities at play in terms of the politicians and whether they can continue talking. Thanks for the moment, dan. Were joined now by our Political Correspondent nick eardley in westminster. Are they going to continue talking . What will happen . The government is saying the £60 million offer is on the table but i think it is likely well get some sort of announcement of business support in the next few days. The big question is whether it comes in before those restrictions. No commitment from the government yet. Itll be interesting to see whether to see whether they managed to come up with something that is definite by friday morning. I think what ministers are trying to do with this is create a precedent to say, look, this is the formula we will use to figure out what local business support will be on offer for any other areas that end up in tier 3. We know South Yorkshire is having further talks today, potentially getting into tier 3 in the next coming days, West Yorkshire, too, nottinghamshire, the north east of england, all over the next few days so they will closely. It is interesting because when this idea of talking to local leaders came up the government hoped it could get some buy from local politicians partly for their expertise on local communities but also to share the responsibility for why the decisions were being taken. Certainly in Greater Manchester that isnt happening so there has been a breakdown in that process to some extent. Just one other thing i want to bring you quickly on government funding. Ministers have confirmed in the last few minutes that plans to set out spending for the next three yea rs have basically set out spending for the next three years have basically been shelved. Weve been expecting to get in the next few weeks but now itll be a one year plan they will get from the chancellor, another example of how uncertain economic picture is, how the treasury is continuing to basically try to figure out exactly what it will have to do on a weekly basis at the moment. Thank you very much for the moment. Scientists have developed a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid the long Lasting Impact of coronavirus infection. The researchers at Kings College london, and the Health Company zoe, hope it can be used to identify patients that might benefit from early treatment. Our Health Correspondent Catherine Burns reports. Vicky says she was the fittest shed ever been at the start of this year, from zip lining on holiday, to going to the gym several times a week. But she got covid in march and says shes had wave after wave of illness ever since. Ankles or my wrists will suddenly get very sore and swell up. I lost my sense of taste and smell again. It just went completely. Ive definitely got some brain fog. I get really wheezy and breathless, and i have to use an inhaler twice a day now. Researchers think thousands of people in the uk are going through something similar. They asked volunteers to log their symptoms on the covid symptoms study app and found that most said they were back to normal in 11 days or less. But they estimate that one in seven people who get ill with coronavirus will be sick for more than a month, which is how they define long covid. Then longer covid. They think one in 20 are affected for more than eight weeks, and that one in 45 are likely to be sick for more than 12 weeks. I havent been able to work for seven months now. The governments worried about long covid too. Its put out this film with people who are suffering from it. It can totally wipe me out just doing basic things. The department of health and social care says this research should be a sharp reminder of the long term and potentially devastating effects it can have. Scientists have used the data, though, to come up with a tool that can predict in seven out of ten cases who is likely to go on to develop long covid. We wanted to have an idea of how much that might affect people, especially as we are going into a second wave now in the pandemic, where more and more people are going to get exposed to the virus. So, clearly, if people are having symptoms for more than two months, thats going to have significant economic and social implications. The strongest sign that someones likely to get long covid is having more than five symptoms in their first week of illness. Next, age, over 50s are slightly more likely to get it. Women seem more susceptible, as well as people with asthma. Vicky is under 50, but she did have more than five symptoms and describes herself as vaguely asthmatic. Now seven months in, she has good days and bad days, but feels that shes getting better, slowly. Catherine burns, bbc news. Mps will debate a labour motion today, calling for Free School Meals to continue during School Holidays in england until next easter. Its after the england and Manchester United footballer Marcus Rashford set up a petition, urging the government to go further in tackling child hunger. Its been signed by more than 300,000 people. Downing street says it has already taken substantial action to make sure children dont go hungry. A Memorial Service will be held later today in paris for the teacher who was killed last week. Samuel paty was attacked and beheaded after showing controversial cartoons of the prophet muhammed to his pupils. Hugh schofield is in france for us. Hugh, what can we expect from the memorial this evening . Well, it will be at 7 30pm and the location is the main courtyard of the Sorbonne University in paris, chosen fittingly to reflect the fact the dead mans impact, he was a teacher. The memorial will take place in the context of covid which means the numbers will be restricted to 400, i understand, and itll have to 400, i understand, and itll have to be over by 8 30pm so people can get home before the curfew kicks in at 9pm. It will be a simple service. The president Emmanuel Macron will lead it. The coffin will be there in the courtyard of the sorbonne and there will be a moment during which there will be a moment during which the president confers on the dead man the legion of honour, that is an honour that has been decided to be given to him to reflect the fact hes become a symbol of the struggle of free speech. Then there will be readings by children, by teachers, and a speech by the president which will be broadcast across the country in which he will talk about the detail of samuel patys life and generally evoke what he stood for and what his death means for france. I think he will also include a message of hope and support for teachers who are clearly going through a period of deep anxiety at the moment. At the end, there will bea the moment. At the end, there will be a minutes silence. Thank you for that and im sure we will have coverage of that onto mys programme as well. On tomorrows programme as well. On tomorrows programme as well. A nasa spacecraft has touched down on an asteroid 200 million miles from earth, in an historic attempt to take a sample from its surface. Wild celebrations erupted as americas osiris rex probe landed on the asteroid last night. Scientists hope surface rock holds fascinating clues about how life on earth began. Just coming up to a quarter past seven, and it is time for a look at the weather. The clouds, carol it is foreboding. Good word, foreboding, and you are right. The heaviest rain will be across southern areas, and heavy winds along the coastline. That is because we have the remnants of storm barbara, named by the Spanish Met Service, coming up across the Channel Islands in southern england. We have a band of rain across england and into wales and another one across the north of scotland. That one will fragment through the day, showers across Northern Ireland and later the wind will pick up. The the remnants of storm barbara will make the rain turned showery in places. You can still see a distinctive band, and it will be slowest to clear in norfolk and lincolnshire. One or two showers left, strengthening winds, and parts of southern and eastern scotland favoured for some sunny spells, but in the north and west, we still have that fragmenting band of rain. Temperatures, 8 17 , so still relatively mild for the time of year. Through this evening and overnight, we still have this rain in the south, which eventually pulls away. Some clear skies, still a few showers moving north, variable amounts of cloud, and still this rain which will take until tomorrow to actually move away and then for tomorrow, a ridge of High Pressure building, still a lot of clout, a little bit of sunshine, not as windy and not as mild either. Thank you very much, carol. There has been no confirmation of the official financial package being offered to Greater Manchester as it prepares to move to tier 3 restrictions from friday. Mayor andy burnham said without extra funding the measures would increase levels of poverty, homelessness and hardship. The labour mp for wigan, lisa nandy, said it was waging war on the people of Greater Manchester, and that she grew up under thatcher but had never seen anything like this. Shejoins us now. Good morning. Thank you for spending some time with us this morning. On the good morning. Thank you for spending some time with us this morning. On theissue some time with us this morning. On the issue of that financial package, cani the issue of that financial package, can ijust the issue of that financial package, can i just ask you what you were told yesterday, because the Health Secretary addressed the house and said that the offer of £60 million was still on the table. Give us an idea of the timeline from what you are told and where we are now. Idea of the timeline from what you are told and where we are nowm was just chaos, it has been for ten days, but yesterday Council Leaders we re days, but yesterday Council Leaders were ina days, but yesterday Council Leaders were in a meeting with the governments advisor. They thought that they were close to reaching some kind of agreement, and then they were told that the whole thing was off. Mps were then called in to a meeting with the Health Secretary at 4 30pm where we were told the only thing on offer for Greater Manchester was 22 million for test, trace and isolate, because the government system isnt working, and we tried to deal with it locally instead. The Health Secretary then went into the house of Commons Chamber and said that his door was open. Im not sure what that means. There has been no clarity about that at all. All we know at the moment is we are going into tier 3 restrictions after months of being under lockdown rules since the end ofjuly without under lockdown rules since the end of july without any under lockdown rules since the end ofjuly without any Financial Support for the government has it currently stands. We are just in an absolute state of shock and disbelief that a government could behave its way to its own citizens. The government are saying that the £60 million are still on the table this morning. We will be speaking to robertjenrick about this morning. We will be speaking to Robert Jenrick about that. This morning. We will be speaking to robertjenrick about that. If that money is available, would you accept it . If the government is willing to talk, my message to them today is please, come back and talk to us, because we are desperate to find a resolution here in Greater Manchester. We have been negotiating in good faith. The reason that we reached an impasse is because the government wasnt negotiating in good faith. My own Council Leader in wigan, who i spoke to last night, said that he had had two meetings with the government over the last ten days. We learned about most of the offers through briefings to the media, and at one point we were told there is an offer of 55 million, ta ke there is an offer of 55 million, take it or leave it, you have ten minutes to decide. This isjust take it or leave it, you have ten minutes to decide. This is just not the way to deal with a city region thatis the way to deal with a city region that is absolutely on its knees from months and months of restrictions, which we willingly accepted because we know the Health Situation is very, very serious. But it is absolutely reeling from that. We have people in significant amounts of debt now, businesses in debt because they havent been able to function properly for months. The upshot of all of this is that people will be made homeless in the middle of winter in a pandemic. We are just asking the government, please, come back to the table, behave responsibly and help reach an agreement. Im sure from their perspective they might argue that they are. You were saying they were waging war in Greater Manchester. The argument would be they are trying to save lives. In a decade in parliament i have genuinely never seen anything like this. It has been absolute chaos over the last ten days. We first learned that these restrictions were being suggested through a briefing to the times late ona through a briefing to the times late on a thursday night. We then couldnt get any answers out of the government over the weekend, the Prime Ministerjust went missing. And since then we have really struggled to get a straight answer out of government. The reason we are asking forfunding out of government. The reason we are asking for funding is out of government. The reason we are asking forfunding is because out of government. The reason we are asking for funding is because we have got businesses that are close to collapse now. We are one of the only areas of the country that has beenin only areas of the country that has been in these severe restrictions for such a long period of time, and we just havent been able to get the government to recognise that. What i think theyre trying to do now is trying to divide us from one another, so i think they want to negotiate separately with individual councils in Greater Manchester. But what they dont understand, because they havent been here and they dont know, is that it is just a nonsense. My constituents, two thirds of them, leave wigan every day for bolton, salford, manchester, to go and work. If there are restrictions and no Financial Support in one part of Greater Manchester, it has a huge impact on all of us. That is why we stand together. We are the north of england, this is how we do things here. Were just asking the government to recognise that and work with us to put that financial in place. In terms of working with those local leaders, lisa nandy, do you think that is the government trying to work around andy burnham, who some mps are saying that his ego has got in the way of these negotiations . I got a very strong impression from the call with the Health Secretary last night that this is all about the government and andy burnham, that they have decided that they dont want to negotiate with andy. They seem to have this attitude that says they believe in localism, they believe in local areas driving things until local areas driving things until local area stand up for themselves and the people in them, and then they dont wa nt to people in them, and then they dont want to hear it. When i speak to Steve Rotherham over in liverpool, he says that they were just told, you accept this or that is it. When i speak to colleagues over in lancashire, they tell me that they we re lancashire, they tell me that they were bullied into accepting a package that they know isnt sufficient. And it has been exactly the same story here in Greater Manchester. I guess my message to people out in the country who arent dealing with this yet is that as cases continue to rise right across the country, if this is the way that the country, if this is the way that the government behaves towards us, they could honestly behave this way towards anyone, and we have got to stick together in order to take this on and force them to change approach. 0k, lisa nandy, thank you very much. We will be speaking to robertjenrick, community secretary, who has been doing quite a bit of that negotiation over the last few days. He was here on monday, and he is back at 7 30am. It is 7. 22. From this week, as well as delivering parcels, postal workers will collect them from your doorstep. Royal mail says its offering the new Collection Service because of a boom in Online Shopping and returns. Our correspondent fiona lamdin is at a Delivery Office in bristol to find out more. Good morning. It is a lovely feeling being surrounded by so many parcels and letters, and as you see, this is the sorting office where it is all going on first thing. From today, across the country, if you want to send a parcel, you can actually do it from the comfort of your own home forjust 72p. We are looking at how this is going to work, but it has been going on in bristol for a couple of weeks, and we are going to come over and talk to maxine, who has been picking up peoples parcels. Bristol is a tier1 place at the moment, so it is not compulsory to wear masks inside, and everyones keeping their social distance. Maxine, good morning. Tell mea distance. Maxine, good morning. Tell me a little bit about the uptake, because you have been doing it for a couple of weeks. Have you collected many parcels from peoples homes . have collected two in the past two weeks, one specifically from an elderly customer who cant leave the house. She was very appreciative of it. How do you feel about it . Because it is quite a lot more work for you. It is not much more work for you. It is not much more work for us. We go there anyway for letters, which means wejust for us. We go there anyway for letters, which means we just knock on the door, they get to see a friendly face and they are very happy about it. Maxine, thank you very much. We will come over over here. Good morning to you. Have you had many people take it up . Yes, a lot of people have taken it up and find it very useful. Obviously people working from home and things like that. And also we get to see more people, get some more interactions with a lot of the older generations than the younger ones, which are more isolated because of the covid. I suppose normally old people going to the post office, it isa people going to the post office, it is a chance to get out and talk to people. Have many older people taken up people. Have many older people taken up service . Yes, a lot of people have. It saves them queueing up because of social distancing, it is a longer wait because of social distancing, it is a longerwait in because of social distancing, it is a longer wait in the queue because of social distancing, so they find it easier for us to come to the doorstep and have a bit of a chat, and also collect parcels for them. And tell me, how has yourjob changed during covid . What has it been like for you going out especially in lockdown when sometimes you are the only person out and about . It has been a bit difficult, obviously to adhere with all the rules and have thing else, but it has been 0k. It hasjust takena but it has been 0k. It hasjust ta ken a little but it has been 0k. It hasjust taken a little while to adjust, but it has not been much of a stress on the job itself. It hasjust been easy for them, to be honest. It has not changed in any way or made it any worse. It isjust not changed in any way or made it any worse. It is just the not changed in any way or made it any worse. It isjust the same. Thank you very much for talking to us. We are going to come over to richard here. Good morning. If you canjust explain richard here. Good morning. If you can just explain exactly how it works for people that might be thinking, i have always gone to the post office and i dont have to do that any more if i dont want to. We have got the option out of people going online, when theyre paying theyre posted online, they have the option of having a postie come straight to their door and picking the item up. We will pick it up, they will return it to us and we will put it straight into the system for them. The federation of sub postmasters have said they are very disappointed you are doing this, they are worried that post offices will struggle. Obviously we are ina offices will struggle. Obviously we are in a difficult time at the moment, and there are lots of people out there currently you cant leave their home addresses. Now they can carry on posting their parcels, and we will go and collect it from their home address or their safe place and put it straight into the system for them. So we have this brilliant opportunity now to have a direct link with the customer, we will pick the item up for them and they dont need to leave their home at this time. And do you think it will help you . Because time. And do you think it will help you . Because obviously time. And do you think it will help you . Because obviously you have seen a huge decline in letters being sent, a parcel is the way forward for you . We have seen a real big decline in the whole business around letters, and now with the increase of parcels in this particular office we are round about a 30 increase in parcels, so this is definitely what is coming through, and we in here are dealing with it really well, and we have to change the way that we work now. Richard, thank you very much for talking to us this morning. As you can see, this set of parcels have just come as you can see, this set of parcels havejust come in but as you can see, this set of parcels have just come in but from today, it wont just be bristol, have just come in but from today, it wontjust be bristol, it will be across the country that you can send your parcel from your own house. Thank you very much indeed, we will be back later. Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. We will have the communities secretary robertjenrick we will have the communities secretary Robert Jenrick here we will have the communities secretary robertjenrick here in just a few minutes. Good morning from bbc london, im alpa patel. The mayor of london has described government plans to fund public transport in london through council tax as ill advised and draconian. Fares revenue has dropped 90 since the covid crisis began. The proposal is part of negotiations over a new funding deal for transport for london. Its also suggested that the congestion charge be extended further north and south, and fares go up above inflation. The met polices annual Autumn Campaign to tackle anti social behaviour is under way. The Campaign Hopes to deal with an expected rise in violent crime, often experienced at this time of year. Officers will target the most dangerous offenders and increase patrols in hot spots. Despite lockdown, there have been more than 20 homicides in london this year for the sixth year in a row. One in ten incidents attended to by the London Ambulance service during the coronavirus pandemic involved Mental Health issues, new figures show. Between january and september, the number of incidents increased each month, withjune seeing the highest number of these call outs. A collection of personal stories from members of the Windrush Generation are the subject of a new exhibition at the university of greenwich. Over the summer, the group of pensioners met by Video Conferencing to share their early memories of settling in england. Together they curated the installation which celebrates black history month. I wanted my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to know what it was like for us when we first arrived and what our legacy is, because i think too many people have not told their stories. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. On the tube still problems on the overground, theres no service between willesdenjunction and Clapham Junction. Its busy around vauxhall as Vauxhall Bridge remains closed. In cricklewood cricklewood lane is closed from the station for roadworks. Now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. Hello, good morning. Its a very soggy start to the day, and there is a met Office Weather warning in force for much of the rest of the day for heavy rain. A lot of rain falling within a short space of time. Plenty of surface water on the roads and the pavements and potentially from this of course some travel disruption. So the rain continues to move in from the south. Its also windy out there, gusts of wind across the london area up to 30 40 mph for much of the rest of the morning into the first part of the afternoon. But the rain starts to clear. It will turn a lot more showery as we head through the second half of the day, but still some heavy downpours to come, perhaps brightening up towards the end of the day. But its still mild out there, top temperatures of 16 or 17 degrees celsius. Now, through this evening and overnight, still a few more showers to come, but generally turning drier, and the winds will ease down as well. Its a mild night to come, temperatures for the most part staying in double figures. Tomorrow a much drier looking day. Im not going to totally rule out the possibility of one or two showers, but there will be some sunny spells, and itll still be mild. Theres more rain in the forecast, though, for friday. Hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and Louise Minchin. Health secretary matt hancock has said a £60 million offer to help Greater Manchester deal with the toughest covid restrictions remains on the table. The area will get £22 million to help enforce the tier three rules that begin in the area on friday, but local leaders want at least £65 million. Labour mayor andy burnham said people faced a a winter of real hardship but some conservative mps have accused mr burnham of putting his ego before the people of the region. Scientists researching the long term effects of coronavirus have developed a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid the long Lasting Impact of coronavirus infection. The researchers at Kings College london, and Health Company zoe, found older people, women and those with specific symptoms in the first week of illness, are more likely to have long term problems, but younger people are also affected. Mps will debate a labour motion today, calling for Free School Meals to continue during School Holidays in england until next easter. Its after the england and Manchester United footballer Marcus Rashford set up a petition, urging the government to go further in tackling child hunger. Its been signed by more than 300,000 people. Downing street says it has already taken substantial action to make sure children dont go hungry. Hes not bad at his dayjob, either, Marcus Rashford. On and off the pitch, he is doing quite well hes been incredibly busy 18 months ago, Marcus Rashford got a late goal against Paris Saint Germain that sent Manchester United through to the quarter finals of the Champions League. He was at it again in the group stages last night. United had gone ahead in the french capital thanks to a re taken penalty from Bruno Fernandes. Anthony martial scored an own goal to make it 1 1. And it looked like it would stay that way, until rashford took over in the 87th minute. Brilliant goal against last seasons beaten finalists. There was less excitement at Stamford Bridge where chelsea played out a goalless draw with sevilla. Their only real highlight came from goalkeeper Edouard Mendy who made a good save to keep the spanish side at bay. Liverpool and man city are both in Champions League action tonight. Liverpool are in amsterdam to play ajax, and the focus is still on captain virgil van dijk. Hell be out for a while after being injured by the everton keeper Jordan Pickford in the Merseyside Derby last weekend. His boss jurgen klopp is still very, very annoyed. Something happened which foreshore shouldnt have happened in a football game. Difficult to accept, let me say it like this. We all accept that injuries can happen but it should be in a normal challenge. The best centre half in the world isnt playing for us for a long time. We will see how long and how we work, we work on solutions for now. Talks have been held about creating a big, new Breakaway League that would involve the top sides from across europe. Its apparently got the backing of fifa. Five premier league clubs have been approached about becoming founder members of the league, including champions liverpool and Manchester United. It would cost more than £4. 5 billion to set up, but the project is said to have a long way to go and the deal may not happen. So, we will wait, thats your sport. As weve heard this morning, Greater Manchester is being placed into the highest level of covid restrictions on friday, despite talks over a Financial Support package collapsing. Were joined now by the communities secretary robertjenrick mp, who was part of those discussions. Good morning again, and thank you for joining good morning again, and thank you forjoining us. So, restrictions come in on friday and right now as we speak to you this morning, how much have Greater Manchester been offered . Good morning. Unfortunately we we re offered . Good morning. Unfortunately we were not able to reach an agreement with Greater Manchester local leaders but we will be providing all the support that is needed to people and businesses in Greater Manchester. Weve said that in addition to all the other measures the chancellor has put in place, like thejob measures the chancellor has put in place, like the job support scheme, the business grants up to £3000, we will be providing over £80 million of support to help the local councils to do further Contact Tracing locally, to improve enforcement and compliance amongst a very small amount of businesses that might not be following the rules today. Within that £80 million, £60 million of Additional Support for the local business community, and we will also be giving a significant amount of money to the local councils to help them to whether the weeks and months ahead because there isa weeks and months ahead because there is a lot of pressure on their spending more broadly. The total package for Greater Manchester is likely to be over hundred and £50 million of support as well as Everything Else weve done since the start of the pandemic. You talk about the £60 million but this seems to have been the Sticking Point, the mayor of Greater Manchester wanted 65 million but you offered 60. Is that the Sticking Point . Is that 60 million still on the table . It is an Important Message living and working in Greater Manchester that that money is there, its got manchesters name on it and i will work with any local Council Leader who wants to come forward to ensure we get that money into the hands of those who need as swiftly as possible. You say youll speak to local Council Leaders so are you bypassing andy burnham, the mayor . The local Council Leaders are the ones the money would have gone too because they are the ones with the statutory powers we can fund and theyin statutory powers we can fund and they in turn they can give out the money to individuals and businesses in the area. We had over ten days of discussions with local leaders and they were not able to reach a conclusion, unfortunately. We were able to reach swift conclusions with the Liverpool City Region, lancashire and ive had productive conversations with local leaders in South Yorkshire and im hopeful we will reach an agreement there this morning as well. So, a couple of things. We work productively with local councils and mayors because thatis local councils and mayors because that is the best way to have a united message to members of the public listening at home. Youve said quite a few things. Our restrictions coming into South Yorkshire . It wouldnt be right for me to pre empt an announcement but we have had quite detailed conversations through yesterday and this morning, and i expect an announcement will be made by the mayor of South Yorkshire, dan jarvis, later this morning. Later this morning, and when might those restrictions come into place . You will have to wait for that, its best if People Living in South Yorkshire wait to see that announcement from him and from the government but it will be made very shortly. Ok. We talked about how much is on the table for Greater Manchester so how much have you offered South Yorkshire . Well, it will be proportionate to what weve donein will be proportionate to what weve done in other parts of the country because we have to be fair between different areas going through similar challenges. I know that andy burnham, asi similar challenges. I know that andy burnham, as i would do as a constituency mp, would want the best for his city and he was adamant Greater Manchester had a better and preferential deal to liverpool or lancashire. As the government, weve got to ensure there is parity between different parts of the country we are working with, so the financial packages are very broadly similar between what weve been able to offer in merseyside, lancashire and South Yorkshire, and that is the fairand and South Yorkshire, and that is the fair and proportionate approach we will take with other parts of the country who unfortunately have two consider tier 3. With South Yorkshire, have you been negotiating with the mayor or local councils . We have worked with both. The local Council Leaders in the end nominated their mayor danjarvis to be our principal interlocutor and that made sense. In other parts of the country we have worked with a combination. In Greater Manchester i worked very productively with the Council Leaders there, people like sir richard leese, the long standing leader of Manchester City council and the leader of bolton council. My door is always open to Council Leaders in Greater Manchester and other parts of the country who want to discuss what further support we wa nt to to discuss what further support we want to give because this isntjust about money, as important as that is. It is also about the other things we can do together. We have offered more support for enforcement, military support if necessary , enforcement, military support if necessary, for logistics. There is a lot we can and should be doing because we want, going into tier 3, to bea because we want, going into tier 3, to be a short term measure, that will last 28 days and at the end of that we want to have turned the tide on the virus so it has to be an intense period where central and local government is doing everything we can to get the situation under control. Can i ask you, we talked to you last week and monday, respect andy burnham yesterday and what it seems to come down to is this £5 million. Compared to the billions the government has spent, £5 million seems youve not been able to get to an agreement for people sitting in manchester with their business is unable to know what is happening, and that is frustrating. understand that. It wasnt about £5 million purely because we spent ten days discussing and the leaders in Greater Manchester were never able to a cce pt Greater Manchester were never able to accept our proposals and bring this to a conclusion so if it hadnt been this, ifear this to a conclusion so if it hadnt been this, i fear it would have been something else. In the final discussion on that, andy burnham asked for £65 million, the Prime Minister offered 55, in line with what other places in the north west received, and the pm in trying to compromise split the difference in offered £60 million which would have been more than merseyside or lancashire. But andy burnham wasnt able to get that because he wanted a preferential agreement for manchester. We felt we had to be fairto manchester. We felt we had to be fair to the other places in the north west, as elsewhere in the country, and have a consistent package of support so in the end we had to take action. The Public Health advice we were receiving was that this was a serious situation but these talks had gone on for too long, and we should have reached a conclusion some time ago. Wed been able to reach pretty swift decisions in liverpool and lancashire and now in South Yorkshire, and now it was the moment to take Decisive Action or else we would be putting peoples lives at risk, we would be putting three hospitals in greater under unnecessary risk and strain, and the economic fallout was always going to be worse as a result of delays so we took action but our door is com pletely took action but our door is completely wide open, to continue to have productive and constructive discussions with the Political Leadership in Greater Manchester and, above all, to make sure that every lever we can pull is bald to support people and businesses in Greater Manchester through undoubtedly difficult weeks ahead. Is the door open to andy burnham . Yes, absolutely. He said, and youll have heard, about a winter of hardship, he talked about the government grinding people down to accept the least they can get away with. That is his point of view. And every press co nfe re nce , with. That is his point of view. And every press conference, he talks about the health of people in Greater Manchester. Obviously, i dispute that. Since the beginning of the pandemic we have put in an unprecedented set of measures to help people. Over £200 billion of support to individuals and businesses more than any other developed country in the world. If you look at the analysis of the work the chancellor has done, it shows it is the people on the lowest incomes who have been the focus of that support, that is the reason why we created the furlough scheme, the job support scheme, that is the reason we are supporting those people working in hospitality, by ensuring they are not paying Business Rates for the whole of this year, that vat has been cut, that weve done everything from the eat out to help out scheme, to grants of £3000 per business. This doesnt mean life is easy, does it, we wont be able to protect every job easy, does it, we wont be able to protect everyjob and every Small Business. We have to do, however, be consistent in our approach. We cannot say to Greater Manchester that we will give them a deal which is significantly better than liverpool or lancashire, their nearest neighbours and friends in the north west. That would not be the north west. That would not be the appropriate role of central government. There will be so many people watching from all over the uk concerned with whats going on but for somebody who has a cafe or pub in Greater Manchester, they will have to be closed, wont they, from friday morning . When will that money be accessed . What guarantee do you need to release the 60 million that you say has Greater Manchester written on it . If you are owning a cafe or pub, you can remain open if you are serving main meal so itll be wet only establishments that will be wet only establishments that will be asked to close for the 28 day period, which is an important caveat. They will be able to receive a grant of £3000 which for the average Small Business should pay for their rent for that period, they wont pay any Business Rates and they will be able to make use of the 596 they will be able to make use of the 5 vat when they go back to business, they will use the job support scheme which will pay two thirds of the employees wages and in addition we have the £60 million. We are working with other parts of the country to design schemes that will be impactfulfor their country to design schemes that will be impactful for their communities. There will be things like extra gra nts to there will be things like extra grants to businesses, sectorial support and we have teams in the treasury, in my department and local councils working through those arrangements for merseyside and lancashire as we speak. And if the Council Leaders come to me today in Greater Manchester, we will set up the same arrangements for them. Thanks for your time here on brea kfast thanks for your time here on breakfast this morning, Robert Jenrick. Obviously talking in detail about the situation in Greater Manchester, but we also asked about South Yorkshire, and he said there would be detailed discussions, an announcement is expected later on this morning. Lets keep an eye on that. It is quarter to seven. No, its not, it is quarter to eight heres carol with a look at this mornings weather. The morning is flying by lots of rain around this morning, but for many parts of the uk, it is cloudy and we have also got other spots of rain. The reason it is wet in the southis rain. The reason it is wet in the south is because of this area of cloud here, named by the Spanish Met Service as storm barbara, it is of course an area of low pressure, and we are seeing the remnants of it today across southern parts of england, south wales and the south east. It has been coming steadily in across the Channel Islands and southern areas as weve gone through the last few hours, and you can see another band of rain across Northern England and north wales, and another one across northern and western scotland, where currently it still is pretty windy. So if we focus on this first of all, this is going to fragment through the day, they will be showers in Northern Ireland, later you will see more rain with the win strengthening. In between, drierand brighter slot, but still a fair bit of cloud. For southern england we are going to see the heaviest rain, but by the afternoon it will be continuing to move northwards and eastwards, so for the Channel Islands, the south coast, we still are looking at some showers. Dont forget gusty winds in land, and gusty winds this morning along the coast from sussex to kent and east anglia. Move north, it gets brighter, but limited sunshine, and we still have the rain fragmenting across northern and western scotland, with more rain coming into Northern Ireland. Temperature wise, we are in pretty good shape for this time of year. We are looking at the mild side if anything of those temperatures. Yesterday we hit 19 in kew gardens, today, top temperatures likely to be 17. Through this evening and overnight, eventually we say goodbye to the remnants of storm barbara, slowest to clear in norfolk and lincolnshire, but we still have another area of low pressure affecting the north, and that will be producing some rain across northern and eastern scotland. We will also have some scattered showers dotted in the west. A mild night in prospect, these are our lowest overnight temperatures you are looking at there. So, on thursday, here is the low pressure, still bringing this rain across northern and eastern scotland, but we have got this ridge of High Pressure building in which will settle things down. That doesnt mean that we are going to have wall to wall blue skies. First of all, we say goodbye to the rain for the day in northern and eastern scotland, then for england, wales, Northern Ireland and the rest of scotla nd Northern Ireland and the rest of scotland it will be drier and brighter, there will still be large areas of cloud, some showers coming out of that cloud but not that many, but some of us will see some sunshine. Temperatures going down, looking at eight to about 16. Overnight thursday into friday, this next batch of rain comes in from the atlantic, and it is going to be drifting steadily westwards as it crosses england and wales, and it will tend to weaken a touch. Behind it, some sunshine, still some showers but feeling cooler, and it is going to be pretty windy on saturday. Carol, thank you for letting us know. It is 12 minutes to eight oclock. If youre a film buff and fancy owning a piece of hollywood history, then good news if you have got a bit of cash around. One the most prestigious auctions of movie memorabilia ever to take place in the uk is coming up. The bad news some of the items are likely to set you back more than £100,000 tim muffetts been to take a look. Lights. Camera. Auction. We have over 900 artefacts from over 350 films and television shows. We havejulia roberts and knee high patented boots from pretty woman. Pretty woman walking down the street. We have tom hankss helmet from saving private ryan, which has been signed by tom hanks, Stephen Spielberg and a number of the other cast members. We also have maximuss, Russell Crowes shield, from gladiator. We have brad pitts jacket from fight club. Come on, hit me before i lose my nerve. Oh, god, this is crazy. So, go crazy, let her rip. Its thought the sale of these items could fetch £5 million. This is Jack Nicholsons thejokers fedora from tim burtons 1999 batman film. Yeah. When you turn it inside, you can see the white residue from the make up that Jack Nicholson was wearing while he betrayed thejoker, and this has an estimate of £20,000£30,000. Who is selling these pieces . Were working with people who are industry connections, so crew members, cast, producers, directors. We are working directly with studios, and in addition to that, because this hobby has been around for 20 years, some of the material is coming back from collectors who bought things from us back in the late 90s. So, this is neos costume, this is keanu reeves costume, the one from the matrix reloaded. It comes with his sunglasses, as you can see, as well. And it has an estimate of £40,000£60,000. Who is going to spend that kind of money on an outfit like that . I think a lot of the purchases we see are driven out of nostalgia, so, people who have grown up with back to the future, for example, would love to own an artefact from the movie. Drying mode on. Jacket drying. This is all about actually a direct attribution to something thats been used in the film, so what could be better than that than martys resizing jacket from back to the future part ii . This r2 droid from solo a star wars story is expected to fetch between £40 60,000. Obi wan kenobis lightsabre from star wars revenge of the sith is expected to fetch between £80 120,000. The sort of items star wars superfan neil livesey dreams of owning. Ive probably got somewhere around 5 7,000 pieces, but i dont own anything that was actually screen used. So some lucky collector somewhere, or a number of lucky collectors, going to have some amazing stuff i did to their collections. So, heres one to take my breath away. Whats this jacket . This is tom cruses jacket from top gun. Turning every touch. I love some of the detailing on here, some of the patches that you have on it. What kind of price with this gofer, do you think . This has an estimate of £12 16,000. Take my breath away. Digital technology wasnt an option when many of these items were made. So, here we have a fully mechanical alien head from the ridley scott film alien, 1979. This is an amazing piece of construction. It is filled with cables and controls to allow the mouth to open, to allow the innerjaw to come out as well. Remarkable pieces of movie history, going under the hammer in early december. Tim muffett, bbc news. I fancy the top gun jacket you have to have the body of tom cruse though. It could look awful. Something else that could look awful. Hes the self titled acclaimed artist whose rubbish drawings of cats and dogs have made hundreds of pet owners very happy. We are not being cruel. For weeks, hercule Van Wolfwinkle has been making a dogs dinner of his subjects, all to help a charity close to his heart. Well speak to him in a moment but first lets take a look at the works of art that have taken the internet by storm. Youve got to be very careful with peoples pets. Hercule Van Wolfwinkle, also known as phil heckels, joins us now from his home in west sussex. Good morning to you, phil. How are things . You have done our pets as well, we will get to those later. How did you start drawing ugly animals . It was all a bit, it happened naturally, really. It was five or six weekends ago, i was trying to coerce my six year old son sam into making some thank you cards, so i got all of his felt tips out on paper and stuff, and just to get him interested, i drew a picture of ourdog. He get him interested, i drew a picture of our dog. He coloured it in, and that got him going on the thank you cards, and then while he was drawing the thank you cards, i drew another couple of pictures of our dog, trying my best to copy some photos on my phone, and just stuck them on facebook with a jokey comment saying pet portraits for sale, £299, and by the end of that day i think i had drawn about six portraits for people. And it kind ofjust sort of naturally kind of gathered a bit of pace from there. Couple of days after doing that, i had set up the page because id had about 25 requests for portraits outstanding, and then a friend of mine asked for and then a friend of mine asked for a picture of his dog jess, which i did, and he said, ive got to pay something for it. Youve seen them, i couldnt accept any money for it because it was rubbish laughter and that was how the just giving thing started. So again the charity thing started. So again the charity thing just kind of came, i say at a later date, it all happened within the space of a few days, but then the space of a few days, but then the just giving the space of a few days, but then thejust giving suggestion came up, and it has just snowballed, tha nkfully and it has just snowballed, thankfully for the charity. You say theyre rubbish, thankfully for the charity. You say they re rubbish, but thankfully for the charity. You say theyre rubbish, but theyve got charm about them. When you do it, are you thinking about, im going to ca ptu re are you thinking about, im going to capture something, or are you thinking, im just going to try . To be honest, obviously making the eyes a little bit goofy, im obviously doing that on purpose. But the rest of it is genuinely me trying my ha rd est to of it is genuinely me trying my hardest to draw whats in front of me. And some of the complaints ive had on the page have been that theyve got a bit too good, in inverted commas. But like i say, its because, i guess when you draw 210 portraits in six weeks or whatever ive done, i hope i would improve but yes, some of them, you can see where i have tried to make them a bit goofy and stuff, but again, i know people dont believe me, but im not an artist. I have never drawn in my life. I didnt even do art at school in gcses or anything like that. So it is me trying my best to create something and sticking it on the page and hoping someone likes it, you know . You have managed to raise a lot of money for the homeless charity. You have done some of our pets, so this is, this is my dog winnie. Real winnie on the left, long legged winnie on the left, long legged winnie on the right. And this is waffle, louise . You do yourself down. I think they are. Not rubbish. This is sallys model dog, sadie. She is actually a model. I have probably ended that career, then i think the money will keep rolling in. This is carols plug donald, and she cat, donald. And nina is with us as well, this is your dog, billy. That is my mums dog, billy. He has not been very well, hence the tongue coming out, bless him. But i love it Dwight Mcneil he doesnt look very well with those eyes, as well you have done a greatjob, phil, and all the money going to charity. Im sure the request will keep coming stay with us, headlines coming up. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Louise Minchin. And dan walker. Our headlines today. South yorkshire looks set to become the latest region to be placed in the highest level of coronavirus restrictions an announcement is due later this morning. In the last 48 hours, ive had productive conversations with local leaders in South Yorkshire and im hopeful we will reach an agreement there this morning as well. We are behind the scenes in one of europess biggest specialist cancer hospitals in manchester. We are meeting of the staff, families and patients fighting cancer in the time of covid. Special delivery from the royal mail. The company will begin collecting letters and parcels from home. It will cost you up to 72p. But could it costjobs at the post office . Marcus rashford steps up once again in paris. He scores a dramatic late winner for Manchester United, as they beat Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League. Were going in. Touchdown for the nasa probe taking samples from an asteroid. Its hoped it could reveal some of the secrets of the solar system. Today again it is going to be cloudy and wet. The heaviest rain across the south and south east. Gusty wind here as well. Its all courtesy of the remnants of storm barbara. Its wednesday, october 21st. Our top story. South yorkshire is set to become the next region to be placed into the highest level of covid restrictions. Robertjenrick was on the programme about 30 minutes ago when he spoke about 30 minutes ago when he spoke about that. An announcement is expect it later today, as the row over a financial package for Greater Manchester continues. In a moment, we will speak to danjohnson. First, lets get the latest from our Political Correspondent, nick ea rd ley, Political Correspondent, nick eardley, whojoins us Political Correspondent, nick eardley, who joins us live from westminster. We have had confirmation of those discussions with South Yorkshire, which Robert Jenrick said had been going on for 48 hour is. And we expect to hear more later . Thats right. It is a busy morning. It seems that the deal to move South Yorkshire from tier 2, into the top band of restrictions, that means things like pubs closing, far more controls on who we can see socially. It does appear that deal is imminent. My understanding is that there are still some details being worked out and we are likely to hear something, potentially, within the next couple of hours on what that deal will look like. The communities secretary, Robert Jenrick, confirming that something will be coming out later this morning. Listen to what he told brea kfast morning. Listen to what he told breakfast about 30 minutes ago. We have had quite detailed conversations through the course of yesterday and this morning, and i expect an announcement will be made by the mayor of South Yorkshire, dan jarvis, later this morning. Later this morning . When might the restrictions come into place . think you will have to wait for that. I think its best to People Living in the area and wait for that announcement. We will keep an eye on that and when we have details, we will let you know. It might be some good news from, frankly, for the governments cooperation with local leaders. We know that in Greater Manchester it has not gone well over the last few days. They had hoped to get local leaders there to agree to something that would allow some of the responsibility and local expertise to be shared. That doesnt seem to be happening. That row was going on this morning overfunding for Greater Manchester, although it was interesting to hear Robert Jenrick also say that £60 million is still on offerfor local jenrick also say that £60 million is still on offer for local businesses in Greater Manchester. I am sure many there will be looking this morning for some clarity on that. Because those restrictions are coming in less than 48 hours now. Really interesting to hear your assessment of what robertjenrick was saying on this programme at 7. 30. Lets talk about manchester now. Dan johnson is 7. 30. Lets talk about manchester now. Danjohnson is out and about for us. Just a couple of days before these restrictions come in, still a great deal of uncertainty . Yes, it looks like there is going to be even more talking to be done about the level of support for Greater Manchester, despite the fact that those talks collapsed and there was no agreement yesterday. The announcement from the government, as they imposed these restrictions, was that there would be £22 million given to Greater Manchester to support enforcement teams, making sure those higher level restrictions are actually adhered to, and that there would be money to increase test and trace capacity across the city region. There was a sense for a time yesterday that might be eight, 20 £2 million for people across the city, when the mayor and the team negotiating with him from the local councils had been holding out for something more like 60, 70 councils had been holding out for something more like 60,70 or even £90 million, is what they said was needed to support people through the next few weeks and months of disruption. The mayor, andy burnham, was clear that he would have done a deal at £65 million. That is what he thought was needed to support those workers who will suffer because of the disruption to business. The government wasnt prepared to go beyond 60 million. It looked like they might not even get that, that 22 million would be it. This morning, we had clarification that the £60 million is on the table to do the extra support work. People who will be out of work will qualify for thejob support who will be out of work will qualify for the job support scheme and presumably get two thirds of their wages paid. But this was perhaps about topping this up and looking after other people, in other businesses, that would be perhaps affected less directly by the disruption to life that will take effect from friday morning. Thank you very much. Scientists researching the long term effects of coronavirus have developed a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid the long Lasting Impact of coronavirus infection. The researchers at Kings College london and Health Company zoe found older people, women and those with specific symptoms in the first week of illness, are more likely to have long term problems, but younger people are also affected. Mps will debate a labour motion today calling for Free School Meals to continue during School Holidays in england until next easter. Its after the england and Manchester United footballer Marcus Rashford set up a petition, urging the government to go further in tackling child hunger. Its been signed by more than 300,000 people. Downing street says it has already ta ken substantial action to make sure children dont go hungry. Royal mail postal workers will now collect parcels from doorsteps across the uk as well as deliver them. From this week, people can send packages without leaving home for 72p per parcel. Royal mail says its offering the service because of the boom in Online Shopping. The National Federation of subpostmasters says its disappointed by the move. Mps will debate a labour motion today calling for Free School Meals ithinki ithink ijust said i think ijust said this, didnt i . i think ijust said this, didnt i . I tell you a moment ago. Shall we talk about nasa instead . A nasa spacecraft has touched down on an asteroid 200 million miles from earth, in an historic attempt to take a sample from its surface. Wild celebrations erupted as americas osiris rex probe landed on the asteroid last night. Scientists hope surface rock holds fascinating clues about how life on earth began. Interesting story about nasa, what they are doing is. Laughter i was trying my best to listen to you, carol and myself. A relief to see you. Good morning, if you are stepping outside, take your brolly, because for many of us it is wet. In fife, a beautiful picture from north queensbury, sent in by one of our weather watchers. North queensferry. But there is rain in the forecast, across parts of the british isles. The heaviest is in southern and North Eastern areas. This is the remnant of storm barbara, so named by the spanish meta met service. Gusty wind in the southeast this morning, especially so on the coastline from sussex to kent, and bear that in mind. Between these areas of rain, we have something drier and brighter. Still fairly cloudy. Through this afternoon, it will dry up through this afternoon, it will dry up in the Channel Islands in southern england, with just up in the Channel Islands in southern england, withjust a up in the Channel Islands in southern england, with just a few showers. You can see we will still have this rain, gusty wind as well. Showers across wales, a few showers across Northern England and some rain returning with strengthening wind into Northern Ireland. The rain across the north and west of scotland, fermenting as we go through the course of the afternoon, with some brighter skies the further east that you travel. Temperatures today, eight in the north, 17 in the south. Not quite as high as we were yesterday when we reached 19. Temperatures across the board are still pretty good for this time of year. Thank you very much, beautifully done. Thank you, thats a fiver that i owe you. Since the pandemic hit in march, its estimated that millions across the uk have missed out on Cancer Screening, and fewer people have been referred to hospital but, of course, people have not stopped becoming sick. So how are doctors still delivering life saving cancer care to those who need it whilst keeping patients and staff safe from covid 19 . Breakfasts Jayne Mccubbin has been granted special access to manchesters christie hospital which is europes largest dedicated cancer centre. Shes there for us this morning. Good morning to you. Good morning, everybody. We are in the chemo ward right now. All quiet at the moment. We are at the christie hospital, at the heart of manchester, which is at the heart of manchester, which is at the heart of the covid story. A herculean effort has gone on every day since march to keep the services going. Come around the corner and we can see that of all the beds are not filled with patients yet, good morning, everybody, good morning, they are all filled with staff at they are all filled with staff at the moment, having a Team Briefing led by marie. And there is a huge effort to keep things going. The problem is this. Back in march, at the start of the pandemic, there was a choice. Do you treat people for cancer, and in doing so, maybe expose them to greater risk of covid, or do you not . It was such a difficult choice to make. And it was a choice that led to lots of delays in treatment, diagnosis, and in services. The christie has been trying to overcome that for the last seven months. Have a look at this film and some of the Amazing Stories of people going through cancer in the time of covid. Compared to lockdown, how busy is it right now . Maybe half. Gloria. Are you glad to see the patients coming back . Yes. Youve got one of the most important jobs here now, havent you, with covid . We have. The hospital wouldnt function without us. Its a lot quieter, obviously. You cant bring anybody, you know, like somebody for a bit of support with your. To the waiting room are busy with patients, but not partners. Not families. To manage the virus, patients likejohn and carol have to come here alone. Who would normally be by your side . My husband. Oh, bless him. Give him a hello down the camera. Hello, tony what might be life or death news can no longer be heard with a loved one sitting at your side. John, i havejust overheard some good news from your lips. Ive just got the results of my scan. No growth, no spread. Ijust wish the wife was here to share it. Whats her name . The wifes names helen, and she is waiting in the car. Oh, wow. John, if i could high five you, i would. Thats what we want to see. The priority since the start of the pandemic has been to keep Cancer Services going. It was very eerie in those early days, because all of a sudden the hospital was very, very quiet. We had days where you would come in and do not know how many staff you had on duty that day. This is normally, you know, a busy, bustling hospital with waiting rooms full of patients and clinic room is full of doctors and nurses. And all of a sudden that went. As lockdown hit, they were told they had the wrong ppe, and all operations were cancelled for three days. That was the moment carol was given her terminal diagnosis. I got the news by phone call. I was really shocked. The potential was we would make our patients extremely sick and extremely vulnerable if we work to treat them. Some patients there were very Difficult Conversations with, to say, are we going to treat them, are we not going to treat them . Was your fear that some of those really Difficult Conversations could shorten somebodys life . Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I said i will get through the treatment, and ill stay positive. There were pauses in chemo for some, but for those who stood to benefit the most, treatment was quickly restarted. Carol among them. She gained a chance to buy more time, but she lost access to the very things that made that time so precious. I mean, ive got 11 grandchildren. Oh, my days. And i cant, you know. You cant get their kisses and cuddles. Carol. Cancer in the time of covid is doubly cruel. For nick, the reality right now is that he has stage iv lung cancer. Its spread. And he is speaking anonymously because he hasnt been able to tell his mum the news as shes been under lockdown in a care home for six months. If you cant be with her and hold her hand and explain things properly . Yes. Shes my best not knowing . Totally. Its just cruel to think that you cant be with her. You need her and she needs you. Yeah, a little bit of each. Be with each other. But, as it goes, we cant, so youve got to live with it. But step outside the christie into suburbia, and you will see some of the mammoth efforts being made to keep Cancer Services going, despite further local lockdowns. What was this room before . Laughter i wouldnt use the word storage or rubbish, but. Sue is a christie radiologist. What was once herjunk room. Everyones got a room like it. Is now her workplace. For her and her colleagues, self isolation wont mean that important work has to stop. The bulk of our work is actually, you know, helping the clinician make the decision about the management of the patient. Im able to do almost all aspects of my work at home. Thats amazing. It is, and technologys great, and i think if its there we should be able to use it. Sue, you are going to hate me for this, but there is one shot. Ive got to film the slippers. This is working from home in action why not . The show really must go on. When the hospital closed its doors to all but essential visits, another service was shut down, but not for long. Lets give sue a call. This is one of your ladies. No christie lady could access a christie wig, and ijust thought, this cant carry on. Within days, andrea had relaunched the christies free wig fitting service, virtually, from a Trading Estate here in stockport. Ringing one photo later, and sue was the very first to benefit. Hi, sue, how are you . Im very well, thank you, under the circumstances are you on whatsapp . Yes, lam. Send me a picture. That was on the tuesday. On the thursday afternoon, i had a wig. To be honest, i was so emotional about it, because that was a big bugbear, losing my hair. Between cancer and covid and baldness, you are honestly more worried about baldness, wont you . Worried about baldness, werent you . Yes, yes. Lets have a little twirl, please. This time last year, i would never have said i would have been sat talking to you like this. And the many compliments i have had, its just unbelievable. Aww. We are both sending you one of these. Its a virtual hug. Thank you so much, girls. You get better soon, sue. Yeah . With all this positivity, im sure i will. Yeah, exactly. My my goodness, the very, very best of luck to sue and carol and everybody else in that film there. We have stepped outside the christie right now, we are surrounded by the rooms where, day in, day out, people are given pioneering life saving treatment to tackle cancer but, my goodness, how difficult has it been during the last seven months of covid and today, manchester, at the very epicentre of the covid story again. Lets chat to neil, you are tremendously worried about what is around the corner and how it will impact on Cancer Services. around the corner and how it will impact on Cancer Services. I think we are, i think we are concerned about two things really. One is the second wave of the Covid Infection and secondly is the number of patients that didnt present with cancer during the first wave now coming through with symptoms and signs are potentially more advanced disease, so we are concerned that the difference this time as we are prepared. We have a better understanding of what is coming. Our priority at a place like the christie is always to keep our patients are safe, that is paramount, our patients and our staff safe and we took the decisions early on to keep the site safe and those measures are still in place. You talked earlier on in yourfilm about the difficult decision we took around allowing visitors onto site, but that really is about making sure we can continue our Cancer Services for our patients and safely. we can continue our Cancer Services for our patients and safely. If you keep covid out, you keep patients m, keep covid out, you keep patients in, it is as simple as that, really. I guess the science hasnt changed, those early day risks you thought our people being exposed increasingly to covid because of their treatment, you are slightly less worried about that now, is that right . Yes, i think we understand the risks of covid and cancer a bit better than we did before. Covid was brand new back in march when this all started. We know a lot more about it, we know more about which Cancer Treatments we still have to be very careful of and which treatments are perhaps a bit safer than we initially thought, so we have been able to adapt our treatments to ensure the treatments we are offering patients are as safe as they can be. Are they less likely to be paused, Going Forward with this new surge of infections of covid . Yes, undoubtedly. The measures we have put in place is all about how we manage this second surge and potentially more patients coming through, so we have more flexibility, we have more capacity, we understand the risks better. I think the Important Message to still get out there, the biggest risk to people with cancer is patients themselves not recognising the signs and potential symptoms. Dont be afraid to get those symptoms checked outcome you must go to your gp and if you cant get a face to face appointment but feel like you most, hammer down that door. Thank you so much, neil. Lets go and meet hillary. Hillary, you are face with the patients but increasingly virtually face to face. How are you keeping things safe, is it safe . Virtually face to face. How are you keeping things safe, is it safflm is safe and we are doing Everything Possible to reassure patients and, naturally, they are worried, coming to hospital when they had been self isolating is a worry for them but we are putting in place all the measures for them so they are screened for their temperature when they come. You are tested every week, all of the staff, to keep things safe. We have regular tests, temperature checks every time we come in, so it is about keeping the staff and the patients safe when they come. And keeping the service is going, thank you for your time. We have been behind the scenes for almost the best part of a week, there are some Amazing Stories we will share with you over the next couple of days, the most amazing people and we wish everybody a very, very best of luck. The big takeaway message from here and from all Cancer Services across the country is, with these huge delays in diagnosis and screening that has gone before, there is a cancer crisis around the corner. If you feel like you have symptoms, do go and get them checked, dont let covid scare you away from the gp surgery. Very good advice, jane and thank you to everybody at the christie who has opened the doors to give us a real insight into the picture. We are there for the next couple of days. Thats the picture in manchester, but what about the rest of the uk . The former Health Secretary jeremy hunt, now chair of the health and social care select committee, joins us from westminster, and we can also speak to deborah james, who has bowel cancer and presents the you, me and the big c podcast from her home in london. Jeremy hunt, they are continuing to treat patients in manchester but the wider picture, how bad is it for cancer ca re wider picture, how bad is it for cancer care and people being. Loss of sound. And it allows the nhs to say this hospital really is as near as dammit covid free and i think that is the really big important step to roll out that weekly testing to the nhs in every part of the country. And is that feasible, mr hunt . Are there resources to be able to do that testing . It is about 220,000 tests a day to be able to do that and we are going to be at 500,000 tests a day nationally by the end of the month. We have done it for care home staff who are now getting tested every day of the week, so we are getting to the point where it is possible, but, really, the sooner the better because we now know, the news this morning is a third of lung Cancer Patients have died since the start of the pandemic and, with cancer, early diagnosis, early treatment is absolutely essential, but, to do that, you have got to give people confidence that, where they get their treatment, it is going to be safe. Lets speak to deborah, i know you are so passionate about this and also early diagnosis as well. From your point of view, as a cancer patient, i know you are still getting treatment but what are your impressions . Yes, i am incredibly grateful and i agree that the mammoth effort that is replicated across the country, i am treated here in london at the Royal Marsden hospital and i see some of the similarities in terms of that weekly testing. I feel like similarities in terms of that weekly testing. Ifeel like i similarities in terms of that weekly testing. I feel like i am going into a very safe environment and, as such, i a very safe environment and, as such, lam a very safe environment and, as such, i am still alive and im incredibly grateful for that. It is a scary experience, actually. You know, going through this on your own, i had to go through radiotherapy, i was in there yesterday for chemotherapy and every measure is taken to make you feel safe, but, you know, there is a camaraderie on the wards because you cant have your friends and family, you rely on those nurses to literally pick you up off the floor when you are having a bad day and it is what it is. I think you know, it does scare me, it scares me that we have to learn from what has gone on. As you know, i am totally passionate about telling people what it is like living with cancer and early diagnosis and we cant scare people away from the system again. It happened first time around, we cant become a covid only nhs. Mr hunt, to come back to you, you saw the figures in that report, an estimated 3 Million People across the uk have missed a Cancer Screening since the pandemic began. Are you and others concerned that the actual true picture is worse than the figures suggest . I think it may well be. The official figures suggest . I think it may well be. The officialfigures are suggest . I think it may well be. The official figures are that for every direct covid death, we have had an indirect death from someone else who has not got the regular nhs care they would have got, but with cancer you have a delayed effect when screening doesnt happen, and that is why i think the key message that we got from the christie this morning as it is really about being willing to see your gp because most people, at the early stages, they wont be in touch with the christie or the marsden, it will be there gp that they go to first and people naturally think i dont want to bother the gp, they will be busy, coronavirus and so on but if you see a lump, blood when you go to the loo, any of the tell tale signs, it is essential you talk to your gp and then make the judgment about whether this is a possible cancer. then make the judgment about whether this is a possible cancer. I suppose the worrying thing as well, jeremy hunt, there will be many people who have been possibly afraid to do that so we wont get a true picture of the impact for perhaps months and yea rs. The impact for perhaps months and years. I think that is right, but we can make that impact less if we change behaviour and, in the first phase of the pandemic, quite understandably, because the message was protect the nhs, we didnt want to have a northern italy style situation, people stayed away, but i think in the second phase of the pandemic, what we know is that it is equally dangerous if people with life threatening conditions like cancer stay away. We dont want them to become the hidden victims of the Coronavirus Crisis. Deborah, to come back to you, i know you are very passionate about, as you said, talking about what it is like to be living with cancer and dealing with the sort of pressure and anxiety it can bring on many people and i suppose there is the emotional toll as well of people finding out at the moment that they do have cancer and dealing with that in amongst Everything Else that is going on. Yes, i suppose everything that is built around halting cancer, we cant underestimate how important that is, whether that is cancelling, whether that is seeing a physio for scar work, whether that isjust after you get those results, being with your friends and family and it is doubly cruel for anyone finding out under those conditions. We cant only deal. Cancer has so many different levels, is there is the mental side as well as the physical side. I take mental side as well as the physical side. Itake hope mental side as well as the physical side. I take hope from the fact that lam side. I take hope from the fact that i am alive because of research, i am alive and sitting here now today because of drugs that were funded through really Important Research that, right now, in the country, is being compromised and it is getting all those Services Back up and running for future generations. We have to think long term and hopefully covid will be gone, but cancer isnt and it still will remain with us and we have to remember that moving forward. Jeremy hunt, we know that Cancer Task Force being set up by nhs england, will that help . It well, but we have two very distinct challenges. The first is we have to get Cancer Services back up to 100 of their normal capacity so people arent afraid to go to their gp. I think the figures this morning for lung cancer, there has been a three quarters drop in referrals and particularly for lung cancer, which doesnt have very high survival rates, that is very, very risky. But then the next stage, once we have got back to our normal run rate, as it were, is how we recover and it looks like, you know, we probably have to be doing 20 more Cancer Treatments, for at least two yea rs, Cancer Treatments, for at least two years, in order to catch up and get back to where we were, which is going to be a huge challenge. Thank you very much indeed your time and, deborah, best of luck as ever with your continued treatment. Thanks for your messages in the last 20 minutes, talking about the situation for many people in the country at the moment. And thank you to the christie for letting us in and we will be there for the next few days. Time to get the news, travel and weather wherever you are watching. Good morning from bbc london, im alpa patel. The mayor of london has described government plans to fund public transport in london through council tax as ill advised and draconian. Fares revenue has dropped 90 since the covid crisis began. The proposal is part of negotiations over a new funding deal for transport for london. Its also suggested that the congestion charge be extended further north and south and fares go up above inflation. One in ten incidents attended to by the London Ambulance service during the coronavirus pandemic involved Mental Health issues, new figures show. Between january and september, the number of incidents increased each month, withjune seeing the highest number of these call outs. A collection of personal stories from members of the Windrush Generation are the subject of a new exhibition at the university of greenwich. Over the summer, the group of pensioners met by Video Conferencing, to share their early memories of settling in england. Together they curated the installation which celebrates black history month. I wanted my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to know what it was like for us when we first arrived, and what our legacy is. Because i think too many people have not told their stories. We have a generation that are basically lost. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. On the tube still problems on the overground, theres no service between willesdenjunction and Clapham Junction. Its busy around vauxhall as Vauxhall Bridge remains closed. In cricklewood, cricklewood lane is closed from the station for roadworks. At palmers green, there are temporary traffic lights at Aldermans Hill because of a burst water main. Now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. Hello, good morning. Its a very soggy start to the day and there is a met Office Weather warning in force for much of the rest of the day for heavy rain, a lot of rain falling within a short space of time. Plenty of surface water on the roads on the pavement and, potentially, from this, of course, some travel disruption. So the rain continues to move in from the south, its also windy out there, gust of wind across the london area of up to 30 40mph for much of the rest of the morning, into the first part of the afternoon, but the rain starts to clear. It will turn a lot more showery as we head through the second half of the day but still some heavy downpours to come, perhaps brightening up towards the end of the day but its still mild out there, top temperatures of 16 or 17 celsius. Now, through this evening and overnight, still a few more showers to come but generally turning drier and the winds will ease down as well. It is a mild night to come, temperatures for the most part staying in double figures. Tomorrow a much drier looking day. Im not going to totally rule out the possibility of one or two showers but there will be some sunny spells and it will still be mild. Theres more rain in the forecast, though, for friday. If youre heading out, watch out for the heavy rain. Hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and Louise Minchin. The rip off britain team have a special week of live programmes theyll be on bbc one immediately after breakfast. Gloria, angela and julia are here to tell us whats coming up today. Good morning. Thanks dan and louise and indeed once again to all you breakfast viewers for sending in your comments while we were live on air yesterday. Were hoping you do the same today, when among other things, were taking on perhaps your biggest bugbear of all parking and in particular, the fury of a group of residents in rochdale about the behaviour of one private parking firm. Its causing people anxiety and sleepless nights, and its not fair. That story is just extraordinary. Also driving you round the bend today, the cheeky ads hiding at the top of internet searches that have seen some people paying for services they could have got free through official government websites. And, what are your rights when what you buy online ends up looking very different when it arrives in the post . Well, weve got the lowdown on what you can do to get your money back from our experts in the meantime, do please send us your emails and comments to ripoffbritain bbc. Co. Uk. And we look forward to your company once again at 9. 15. See you then. The Coronavirus Crisis has really sped up the move to shopping online. Now the royal mail is hoping to take advantage. Theyre launching a Delivery Service which will see parcels being picked up from peoples doorsteps. Ninas taking a look at this one for us. How will this work nina . Lots of the audience had been in touch. You are a big fan of going into the shop and seeing the product, louise . I like going to the post office, because i like to have a chat. You like high street shopping as well . Over lockdown, we have all been doing a lot more Online Shopping. At first, we had to, when nonessential retail was shut down during lockdown. But has the habit stuff . Online sales were up the habit stuff . Online sales were up nearly 50 in august compared to february. Consider that nonessential retail had reopened injune in england. Clearly, lots of people sticking with deliveries. According to one piece of research, half of consumers think the pandemic has had a permanent effect on the way that they shop. And more shopping online means more things being sent back. According to royal mail, more than half of clothing bought online is returned, and about two fifths of electrical products are also return. As dan and louise was saying, this morning, royal mail has launched a new service to collect parcels using its network of posties. You will, of course, have to pay. 60p if its a pre paid return from a retailer. 72p if its not in which case, youll also have to pay the postage fee. Itll be available six days a week, and you can send up to five parcels per address. So, theoretically, convenient for consumers. But can it work practically . And what will it mean for post offices . Earlier, i spoke with a representative of those who run post offices. He told us theres nothing quite like nipping in to your local branch. From a consumer point of view, and ive had it myself, you have sat and waited, and waited, and waited, looking and watching for the delivery van to arrive, and then you have that aspect where you have a notification that they have not been able to deliver. You are thinking, i havent seen them, or you are waiting all day, whereas you can actually go down to the post office, asi actually go down to the post office, as i say, many are open early in the morning until late at night, seven days a week. So from a convenience point of view, again, we would encourage people to go and receive the Excellent Service that they can at their local post office. That trip to the post office is a lifeline for some people. The union that represents postal workers, who deliver and pick up, says the new service will be really helpful for people who are shielding or self isolating. Just a couple of e mails that are coming. We asked people if they would use the service. Rich says to write, it is a proper faff going to the post office. But another viewer says i would miss the gossip with nigel, ourfriendly postmaster, and it is the only person i speak to other than my family. So it is nice to have the face to face chat. Family. So it is nice to have the facetoface chat. I would miss the post office natter. This is a big question for this time in the morning. Do you think love is a real emotion . Or is itjust chemicals and conditioning that convince us to fall for somebody else . Thats the question comedian sara pascoe is asking. Shes written a new sitcom called out of her mind, which sees a fictionalised version of herself try to understand why everyone around her is pairing up. Well speak to sara and juliet stevenson, who plays her mum, in a moment. But first, lets take a look at a clip from the show. Why . Because we love each other and. Why . Can you just listen to me . Stefan and i, i dont know, were just meant to be together. Yeah, but why . Because we want to. Yes, but why. Give me one good reason. He makes me feel amazing. So . Loads of stuff makes you feel amazing. Getting free crisps from the vending machine makes you feel amazing. This isnt about crisps. And then i bought some crisps, they didnt drop down because youd stolen them. Oh, my god, you need to get over that. Iwas nine. Its the principle. Ha ha . Oh, you need to grow up. A snippet from the programme. We can talk to sara and hopefullyjuliet canjoin us talk to sara and hopefullyjuliet can join us later. Lovely to have you on the programme. For those that didnt see last night, give us an idea of the way it works. Essentially, there is a set, and then in your own mind you are watching the sitcom, reacting and then other peoplejoin watching the sitcom, reacting and then other people join you in a parallel universe, is that a good way of describing it . A very good way of describing it . A very good way of describing it. The other way of describing it, someone did last night, is bonkers. Half original sitcom and half a bit bonkers. I really wa nted sitcom and half a bit bonkers. I really wanted to explore big things about human beings. In order to do that, without making it a book, the idea is to go inside my mind and comment on things, and kind of have animations, act outs and bits of learning and things like that. Thats really interesting, a lot of us keep what is inside our minds to ourselves. Does it feel quite scary, putting it out there . ourselves. Does it feel quite scary, putting it out there . I think that isa putting it out there . I think that is a comedians job. Putting it out there . I think that is a comediansjob. What has been brilliant is making it visual. I think comedians are wired differently to other people. We a lwa ys differently to other people. We always wa nt differently to other people. We always want to tell everyone everything that is going on inside us. I am interested, sarah, when you pitched this, how did you say. They said, we know youre going to make it funny, so do what you like, ordid make it funny, so do what you like, or did you try to describe how it would work . Did start with me saying, please, please, please. Luckily, i had written a book a few yea rs luckily, i had written a book a few years ago called animal, which was a book about the evolution of the female body, but also had a lot of humourand female body, but also had a lot of humour and autobiography in it. Luckily, i did have a bit of a president with scientific information, putting it in a clear way. But there was also a lot of, you know, please trust me at the start, you have a wedding scene. That is the heart or the end of so many movies, and you deconstruct it. Do you always watch wedding scenes with interest . Absolutely. Im a very emotional viewer. The slightest bit of music on an x factor video andi bit of music on an x factor video and i am crying. And the same with weddings. I cant help it. Why am i weeping . This is cheating, i think weeping . This is cheating, i think we are so conditioned to believe that two people getting married is a happy ending, and not to question it. In real life, that isnt true. We can bring injuliet stevenson, he was playing your mum in all of this. Good morning to you, lovely to have you on the programme. Tell us a bit about how the collaboration came about. Its a great cast that sarah has put together. Tell is a bit about your character. I play saras mum, i got the script andi i play saras mum, i got the script and i was a fan of hers anyway, so when the script arrived i was over the moon. I read them and just thought, this is unlike anything ive ever seen on telly. And what i really love about it was obviously it was very funny, and it was also sort of talking about so much of womens experience that ive never seen put out there, ive never even talked to my mates about it, never mind put it on national television. One of the beauties of it as she is opening everything up for conversation. Carol is a brilliant character, she is a single mum of two melco girls who are grown up now. Basically, she has done a lot of work bringing them up on her own, trying to earn a living, and now she wa nts trying to earn a living, and now she wants some fun. Which isnt always need of her, lets say. I understand you went to chelmsford and followed people around, to do some sort of character research. Is that right . never told sara that. We were filming in january. Never told sara that. We were filming injanuary. Iwas never told sara that. We were filming injanuary. I was thinking about this, coming up to christmas last year. You know, the family is sort of based on essex and london borders, is not right, sara . Yes. So, anyway, iwill borders, is not right, sara . Yes. So, anyway, i will hang out in chelmsford, colchester in places like that, where i was born. I went and did my christmas shopping. I was just looking for a carol, which is what i would do for any character i played. I found myself what i would do for any character i played. Ifound myself trailing around, stalking women who i thought reminded me of carol. That got me into a bit of trouble now and then. I love that. I wish there was video footage of that. Trying to record them on my phone, as well, which got me into problems on a couple of occasions. Of course, sara, you didnt have complications, because you were playing yourself . Its the opposite, i was working with incredible actors like julia, everyone else was doing character works, i thought, everyone else was doing character works, ithought, ive got everyone else was doing character works, i thought, ive got me, just put the camera on, im ready. You wrote it, directed and starred in it, what is it like . I didnt directed, but i wrote it and i am in it. Its quite something to have someone alongside you who is starring in it actually responsible for the words . It is true and i was a little bit in awe of sara to begin with and when you are usually doing scenes with the executive producer, you know, all actors are usually equal in the room, but it was working inside saras brain, basically, so i was nervous for the first few days thinking she would think i was com pletely thinking she would think i was completely wrong and its not what she wants, and she has made a mistake in casting me but, no, it was a brilliant atmosphere on set, im notjust was a brilliant atmosphere on set, im not just saying was a brilliant atmosphere on set, im notjust saying that, it really was. Although we didnt have much time to rehearse, after a couple of days, i think we really did begin to feel like a family. And it is brilliantly cast. When you get a chance to see the whole thing, everybody is really wonderful in it soi everybody is really wonderful in it so i think sara knew exactly who she was bringing around her and it was a really, really happy time. And i know, juliet, she is listening in, but there are many people who would love to see what is going on in a comedians brain, is it an interesting place to be . comedians brain, is it an interesting place to be . I was listening to sara say about what comedians do but it is what actors do, wejust comedians do but it is what actors do, we just recycle our lives shamelessly and ruthlessly. Anything that happens, anything you know, anything you feel, it all goes out there so i dont think there is such a big difference between comedians and actors were, really, it is all sort of the same thing, but comedians do funny stuff better, thatis comedians do funny stuff better, that is really the difference. And, sara, look at all those books, im so impressed, have you read them all . That is my read pile, i am a reader. You are, arent you thank you both forjoining us. Let me tell eve ryo ne you both forjoining us. Let me tell everyone when it is on. Out of her mind is on tuesday nights on bbc two at 10pm and its also available on bbc iplayer as well. The first one was on last night. And if you see juliet the first one was on last night. And if you seejuliet in chelmsford recording you, it is for research heres carol with a final look at this mornings weather. There have been clouds on the horizon, havent they . Absolutely right, yes, good morning. Clouds and rain and some heavy rain at that, it has been raining this morning in windsor, we still have more rain to come and we do across other areas as well but the heaviest rain is across southern parts of england and also the south east, thatis england and also the south east, that is the remnants of storm barbara. We have another band of rain across wales and Northern England, this one will tend to fade and another one across northern and western scotland, where we also have gusty winds. This will fragment through the day. In between, some brighter skies but a lot of cloud. Gusty winds inland across the south eastern quarter but especially south eastern quarter but especially so from sussex along to kent and east anglia, along the coastline. This afternoon, a lot of the wet weather will have cleared from the Channel Islands and southern england, with just a few showers, but we have this line extending from the south west through the midlands into norfolk and lincolnshire. To the west of that, drier, brighter with fewer showers and the rain fragmented, as i mentioned across the north west and scotland, the wind easing here as well but brighter skies in the east. Still mild today, temperatures ranging from eight in lerwick to 17 in london. Eventually, overnight, we lose this rain, the remnants of storm barbara, slowest to clear our lincolnshire and norfolk, we are left with a few showers especially in the west and still some rain across Northern England and north of scotland, but a fairly mild night. So we eventually say goodbye to this rain across eastern parts of scotland, a ridge of High Pressure builds in but it is not going to be wall to wall blue skies, still a fair bit of cloud around, some sunny intervals, one or two showers and lighter winds but generally speaking, feeling cooler than today. Thank you, lovely to spend wednesday morning with you. A care home in devon has truly embraced the idea of respecting your elders by asking residents to share their words of wisdom with the younger generation. People living in yelverton Residential Home have been writing inspirational, and sometimes surprising life messages on whiteboards and sharing them on social media. Well speak to two residents from the home in a few moments, but lets take a look at some of their advice. Be yourself. Enjoy life. Because youre only here once. Save all your money and hang onto it, and have a good time. Think before you ink. A smile goes a long way. Go to school and learn, and then get a good job. And be kind to other people and helpful. Have a nice christmas. I love that from tom, have a nice christmas yes, do that were joined now by residents Margery Sinclair and betty gawman. And the manager pete, all from yelverton. Lovely to have you all on the programme. Betty, lets start with you, give us an idea of why and how this came about, writing m essa g es how this came about, writing messages for young people. Betty, they are asking how you came about writing messages for young people, why did you give your advice . Why didi why did you give your advice . Why did i give my advice . Well, i was asked to write something and i thought i will write something and try to get their children to do better at school, so they can get a good job and help other people if they can. Because i was always brought up to help other people. You make a very good point. Margery, you had to write your advice, what was your advice . My advice was to hang on to all your money save it and, if you are feeling rubbish, just stand on your head. It will make you laugh. And you wouldnt feel so rubbish. Im going to take that on board, margery. I dont know if you are Still Standing on your head but is that something you used to do . When i was much younger, yes. The trouble is, my legs are long enough now so i cant do it because i cant reach. Pete, we are looking at the board you are holding up there, it looks back to front in our minds, so give us an idea, is that the advice from margery and betty . Thats right, yes, pretty much what betty just said, she has put work hard, get a good job, help others when you can. Keep going and just do the best you can. Margerys was keep going and do the best you can. We had numerous messages that went out, we just found it quite a good way to, you know, show that families and friends on our social media, our facebook, you know, that we are all in good spirits and things are ok during this time. Betty, hopefully you can hear me, what you think now of the fact that thousands of people have read this advice and here we are talking about it live on National Telly . He wasjust saying what you think about all of this and how it has all gone and lots of people have heard your advice . Sorry, i cant hear what you said. How do you feel about this, lots of people seeing your advice . Well, im glad people have seen it and i hope some of them take it on board, but im not one that likes the limelight listen, it is lovely to speak to you all, thank you very much indeed and lots of people, im sure, well be taking that advice. A p pa re ntly sure, well be taking that advice. Apparently one of the things they did there as well, they had a beach day, a beach ball and a bubble machine. That and stand on your head. It sounds like a great day thanks to betty and margery and pete. One of those things that has kept a lot of those things that has kept a lot of people entertained and now it is being talked about and shared far more widely, which is brilliant. It was a manoeuvre that was out of this world. Last night, a nasa spacecraft touched down on an asteroid 200 million miles from earth, in an historic attempt to take a sample from its surface. Scientists hope americas osiris rex managed to grab bits of rock that could hold clues about all sorts of questions about the universe. Lets take a look at the moment it landed. The hazard map is go for tag. Contact expected in 50 seconds. Were going in applause. Touchdown declared. All right sampling is in progress. Lets get some reaction now from professor sara russell, a Science Team Member of nasas osiris rex mission. Good morning to you, thank you so much forjoining us. Explain to us the excitement, this is really significant, is it . Its an incredible moment for the nation, so it launched four years ago and we have been waiting for these few seconds when we will actually grab a sample from the surface and hopefully get a chance to bring it back to earth for us all to have a look at. I have read this quote, let us know that the difficulty of doing this, a nasa scientist compare the landing to trying to park a remote controlled car 300 million kilometres away on an asteroid the size of the empire state building. It is largely mind blowing, isnt it . It is completely mind blowing and, of course, the place they were aiming to land is actually smaller than that, it is like trying to park it in than that, it is like trying to park itina than that, it is like trying to park it in a parking space, but they managed it. So it is absolutely brilliant. And then, once it landed, what did it do . So it didnt exactly land, it is called a touch and go mission, so it has a sampling arm that reached down to the asteroid surface and then there is a kind of reverse vacuum cleaner surface and then there is a kind of reverse vacuum cleaner that blasted some gas at the surface and hopefully that will have disrupted the surface and rubble would have come up into the collection sampling vessel. And then it withdrew from the surface after that. Can i ask a dense question . The asteroid is thought to be travelling at, is this right, about 63,000 mph, so how do you make something go alongside Something Like that and get the sample at the same time . Is it animation which couldnt have been completed a few years ago . Using the latest very technology . Absolutely. So, this mission has broken all sorts of World Records but one of its records is that it has managed to get spacecraft in orbit around the smallest body. So it was in orbit around the body. One of the team members described it to me as being kind of like the red arrows kind of flying side by side but millions of miles away and it managed to successfully do that. It is an absolute miracle of engineering that it was done. And when it eventually gets back to earth, i think that is in 2023, you are one of the people who will be looking at these samples, so what are you hoping it is going to tell you . Yes, i am one of a very big science team, so there will be lots of people excited about having a peek at the samples and the reason we are peek at the samples and the reason we a re interested peek at the samples and the reason we are interested in this asteroid is we think asteroids like the target of this mission are among the kind of Building Blocks of our solar system, it formed over 4. 5 billion yea rs system, it formed over 4. 5 billion years ago at a time when the sun and the planets were first forming, so it can tell us all about what was happening at that time and what was going on and the birth of our solar system and how our planet and others first formed. I was also reading, andi first formed. I was also reading, and i dont know whether you can tell us this isnt going to happen, there is a slight possibility at one point that this asteroid could potentially collide with earth. Could that happen and how far in the future are we looking . Yes, that is another reason to look at this asteroid in detail, there is a very, very small probability that, in a couple of hundred years, it might impact the earth so what we want to do is to study asteroids and other ones like this that might be potentially hazardous to earth to look in more detail about exactly how the orbit evolves, so we can make more accurate predictions about which asteroids are likely to be hazardous to us. Fascinating, sara russell, thank you very much and when it does return, im sure you have other work between now and 2023 but thank you for speaking to us this morning. Good morning, welcome to bbc news. Iam i am victoria derbyshire. More than a Million People in South Yorkshire face being placed under the highest covid alert level, as the government says its on the cusp of agreeing a deal with local leaders were expecting a statement shortly. As Greater Manchester prepares to move tier 3, the government says the door is still open for further talks about a Financial Support deal. Absolutely, that money is there, its got manchesters name on it and i will certainly work with any local Council Leader that wants to come forward and ensure that we get that money into the hands of those that need it as swiftly as possible. Scientists develop a tool for predicting who is most likely to develop long covid and hope it can be used to identify patients who might need early treatment. Government borrowing jumps in september as the uk continued