Jobs. A star studded list featuring the likes of ed sheeran and coldplay call on the government to do more to protect the uks live music venues. They won the fa cup back in 2013, but now we can athletic have become the first English Football Club to go into Administration Since the coronavirus pandemic Wigan Athletic. I will be there this morning getting a reaction. Get ready for some big downpours today, especially across parts of england. And over the next few days the wind is set to get up once again. I will have all the details hereunder. Here on breakfast. 0ur our top story is that schools in england will be told to stagger break times, Group Children into bubbles and focus on core subjects when they return to the classroom in september. This is according to guidelines expected to be published by the government today. The plans are based on reducing contact rather than social distancing and will be set out by the education secretary, Gavin Williamson. 0ur education correspondent dan johnson has Gavin Williamson. 0ur education correspondent danjohnson has this report. Some children may be back in class, but foremost, this is their 15th week of disrupted education, trying to learn at home or online. The impossible puzzle has been how to get them all safely back school with social distancing place. Spreading classes out needed extra space, and teachers we simply dont have, but the government committed itself to finding an answer. We are going to have to make changes as to how it currently operates. We have seen a relaxation of social distancing rules, and we are going to see the return of full class sizes. So what can we expect come september . The government is set to announce that social distancing will be abandoned in Primary Schools and reduced to one metre where possible in secondaries. Whole year groups will be regarded as bubbles, with staggered start times to keep them apart. Some subjects may be suspended at first, to focus on catching up in core classes like english and maths. It is possible that could lead to some gcse pupils dropping optional subjects altogether. And fines will return for pa rents altogether. And fines will return for parents who dont make sure their children are back in school. We will get confirmation of the detail later this morning, but there are still questions to address. What about school buses . There is a suggestion face coverings may be required, but they are not being recommended in school itself. How will shared spaces be cleaned between classes . And with bubbles potentially including hundreds of children, how will schools cope with the further disruption caused by a single case . And all this to be considered on a day when most children in leicester stay at home once more, as schools lockdown again because of the outbreak there. Lets talk to our Political Correspondent ian watson in westminster for us. Good correspondent ian watson in westminsterfor us. Good morning. I have been bereft at 5pm most evenings lately because the downing street press conference hasnt been happening. It is back, i understand. It is back, i was going to savour one day only, but they may be another one when the government finally gets around to announcing these averages. But certainly there is going to be one tonight with the education secretary, Gavin Williamson, and the government has been asking the public to contribute, to tell them what their concerns are. So i imagine likely old press conferences it will be at least a couple of questions from pa rents over least a couple of questions from parents over the reopening of this evening. And i think that is a crucial issue, because what the government has to do is get the confidence of parents. Looking at recent statistics, although about 90 of schools in england are accepting some pupils, parents of year1 pupils are only sending them backin year1 pupils are only sending them back in relatively small numbers, only about a third of the classes we re only about a third of the classes were actually full, so that the government has to get the confidence of pa rents government has to get the confidence of parents and to tell them it will be safe to send their kids back to school in england in september. And when you look in a situation in leicester, for example, they have found positive cases in five schools there, so the government has a bit ofan there, so the government has a bit of an uphill struggle to convince pa rents, of an uphill struggle to convince parents, even if they have got the threat of fines, of compulsion, when schools go back. One of the things we will be looking at with a government minister is the information that is available to local authorities when it comes to who is being tested, and there has been some controversy and some interest about what information has been available in terms of coronavirus data. Well, thats right. The government saying they shared data with local authorities, but it is the quality of data, the detail that they share, that has been quite controversial. So, for example, in leicester, the labour mayor of leicester claims there is a delay therein getting the data that they needed. What we will see published, which will be all looking at, will be the levels of infection by local government area. So it is likely to show leicester way out in front. The most recent statistics suggest there were other places relatively high up the league table, such as bradford, burnley and rochdale. What it didnt do was detail information on each postcode area, and that is what local authorities wanted and what the department of health say they will 110w department of health say they will now get, so they can get a better handle on where the viruses, and so perhaps they can actually prevent having citywide lockdowns, if they are given Early Warning of where in the community the virus is spreading. So that is the kind of information they are going to be getting from now on. Some of them say they should have got it a lot earlier, and some people saying actually, if local authorities are going to get that information, why not tell the wider public . Why not tell them where the infection is . The governments answer to that is if you are at risk you will probably be picked up by the test, track and trace system. However, as we know, they may have got it and running at great speed, but it is far from flawless. Thanks very much, iain watson for us. Travel firms are demanding clarity from the government over which firms will be granted exemptions to travel into the uk. An announcement on so called air bridges is expected this week. Nina is at a travel agent in blackpool for us this morning. To be fair, nina, there is still a fair bit of confusion overjust when, if and how these changes will come about. But the travel industry wants clarity, and they want it now. Yes, quite right, charlie. Good morning to you and to naga. We initially thought this news might be yesterday and it is looking more doubtful it might be today. We will find out where we will be able to travel to without having to quarantine. From people who want to travel on monday when these measures come into place, that doesnt leave much time. Neither does it for travel Companies Like the one we are in this morning. The Daily Telegraph is reporting this morning that the reciprocal air bridges agreement between two nations is going to be abandoned for a straightforward list of countries you can travel to without quarantine. Now, interestingly that could contain nations like greece, australia, new zealand, where things will be more complicated if you want to travel to those countries. Now, as we found out yesterday, time is money when it comes to the travel industry. You know, from plane wings that i made in north wales to airports on the south coast to the sandwich shops, upper crust, where we buy food on the way out of the country, jobs are going every day. Everyday matters. Thanks very much, nina. We will be catching up up with nina throughout the programme. Californias governor has ordered the closure of all recently reopened bars, restaurants, cinemas, and zoos. The state has seen nearly 6000 new cases in the past 2a hours and recorded 110 deaths. New rules will apply to about 28 million of the states a0 Million People. Hong kong police have made their first arrests under a new anti protest law imposed by beijing, holding ten people following demonstrations. The law has prompted the uk government to say we will offer more than 10 million hong kong residents the chance to settle in britain. Stephen, always good to see you. How is china responding to this . Well, we are waiting for the response, and i can tell you, you know, we go along to these Foreign Ministry press briefings and they are Ministry Press briefings and they a re pretty Ministry Press briefings and they are pretty diplomatic when they a nswer are pretty diplomatic when they answer our questions. At the end of may we asked about this proposal that britain was going to offer a path to citizenship for these bno passport holders, and they hit the roof. A Foreign Ministry spokesman said not only were their promises from britain that we wouldnt do this, that they were contained in memoranda and therefore it would be a breach of international law, a breach of britains long term stance, but crucially he threatened unspecified consequences if written went ahead with what is happening britain. In two hours time we are going back to the Foreign Ministry to ask what are you doing now, and i imagine in london they are bracing for what beijing has in mind. Imagine in london they are bracing for what beijing has in mindm will be interesting to see how the uk will be interesting to see how the u k rea cts will be interesting to see how the uk reacts to that. And of course we saw, in hong kong, some of those first arrests with the authorities taking action. Yes, it didnt take long for this new law to be used. I mean, some analysts thought they might sort of go easy on it to try and reassure the public. But, i mean, the first 2a hours there were more than 300 sort of normal arrests, at least ten people were arrested under this new law, and they were carrying flags and things. 0ne they were carrying flags and things. One person had a sort of handmade sort of placard. Nevertheless, under the new law, this is serious, it can meana the new law, this is serious, it can mean a long time in prison if you are caught with anything advocating hong kong independence or challenging the communist party. Stephen, it is interesting. Thank you so much for taking us us through that. Some of the biggest names in music including sir Paul Mccartney, ed sheeran and annie lennox have signed an open letter urging the government to help protect live music venues from the effects of the coronavirus. They wa nt effects of the coronavirus. They wantan effects of the coronavirus. They want an extension to the furlough scheme for those working in the industry, and the removal of vat from tickets when the gigs start. Here is collin patterson. Ed sheeran and coldplay, both british acts who can fill stadiums around the world. Today, they are trying to help those who work in some of the uks smallest venues. They are amongst the 1500 acts who have signed a letter calling for the government to give the live music sector Financial Support, arguing that the lack of shows this summer has left tens of thousands ofjobs at risk. Jools holland has been gigging since the 19705. At risk. Jools holland has been gigging since the 1970s. The smaller the venue, the harder it is going to be for them. The smaller the band, in their stature, the harder it is going to be for them. It has a knock on effect to everybody. Going to be for them. It has a knockon effect to everybody. Kaiser chiefs were supposed to be touring this summer. They think it could be a devastating year for those who work behind the scenes. Youve got people doing jobs that they do them for the love of music, the love of community, you know, in their community. And if those people disappear off, it is because they have to, because they cant afford to hang around. Then you lose those people, and they are hard to replace, and impossible to replace. For three decades, emma banks has put on concerts by the likes of Kylie Minogue and katy perry. She is worried that many of the uks Grassroots Music venues will simply never reopened. It is so, so disturbing. 0nce never reopened. It is so, so disturbing. Once the rent isnt paid on that venue anymore, whos to say that it doesnt get brought up and knocked down, and it becomes another block of flats or an out of town shopping centre, or whatever it is. It is so hard. The government say they are already providing unprecedented Financial Assistance to organisations and artists, such as loans and the Job Retention scheme, and they are looking at Additional Support for the industry. As forjust Additional Support for the industry. As for just how Additional Support for the industry. As forjust how much this issue has brought the British Music scene together, the open letter has been signed by both liam and noel gallagher, the first time four years the feuding brothers have been willing to sign the same thing. Well, if it brings brothers together. It is always good. One last story for you right now. People love it on television when things go a little bit awry. In funny kind of way, in the business we in, news, it is almost funny, isnt it, because people are trying to be serious and Something Else can happen. Maybe you remember this one, Professor Robert kelly interrupted during an interview about korean affairs. You remember what he is talking about, of course. Serious subject. But there has a new one. This is yesterday, the turn of doctor Claire Wenham, who was talking about important things as well. This is what happened. Weve got an example, and we are improving our systems as and we are improving our systems as a result. Yes, so were hoping so. And it is a learning process, so now we are moving to this new approach of these, you know, local lockdowns. It is part of the learning process to really understand how this is happening. Now, quite honestly, this should have happened a long time ago, in my opinion. But here we are in this situation, and so can we improve it for the inevitable lockdowns that might come further down the road . We have looked into it today and send the other hotspots of concern might be in barnsley, in bradford, and soak how can we make sure that they are getting the right data now, so that we dont have the same problem again . What is your daughter called . Same problem again . What is your daughter called . Re max same problem again . What is your daughter called . Re max is called scarlets. Scarlets, ithink daughter called . Re max is called scarlets. Scarlets, i think it looks better on the lower shelf. And it is a lovely unicorn. It is a lovely unicorn. So obviously. And do stop me if you need to crack on, do tell us. Me if you need to crack on, do tell us. My name is christian. Whats his name . My names christian. It is where mummy wants to go. Name . My names christian. It is where mummy wants to golj name . My names christian. It is where mummy wants to go. I think just on that shelf is great. I am so sorry. This is the most informative interview i have done all day. I love it, i love scarlett. And i wa nt to i love it, i love scarlett. And i want to know where that picture ended up stop i love the mother just, wondering what her daughter was a two while she was trying to talk about something important. Brilliant. Lets have a look now at some of the front pages, starting with the times, talking about a bespoke immigration arrangement that when the uk and kong allowing 3 million eligible residents to live permanently in britain more about that later in the programme. The daily express leads with a warning that more towns and cities will follow leicester into a local lockdown after identifying what it refers to as clusters across the country. Radford is one area of concern. The daily mirror has a montage of some of the nhs staff and ca re montage of some of the nhs staff and care workers who have died of coronavirus. The tribute comes as the uk prepares to mark the anniversary of the nhs on sunday stop there are fears about the futures of curry houses and that is one of the most read pieces on the bbc website, as the industry warns that many family owned restaurant will struggle to reopen when restrictions are lifted. You have something about tea . Restrictions are lifted. You have something about tea . Would you like to see a picture of a badger . No. Youre going to see a picture of a badger. You dont need to look but eve ryo ne badger. You dont need to look but everyone else can see it. This is a badger with a garden fork mark stevens badger with a garden fork mark steve ns a nd badger with a garden fork mark stevens and took this picture and it was handling the fork propped up in the garden. That is the picture i wa nted the garden. That is the picture i wanted to see this morning. If i wa nted wanted to see this morning. If i wanted to see this morning. If i wanted to see this morning. If i wanted to see a picture of a Badger Holding a garden fork, if you had asked that i would have that yes. Mark has been leaving out scraps to tempt them and this is one of his projects. He loves to photograph wildlife but some say and i imagine he thinks of someone like you, i dont want another badger photo. But that was great. That was a worthwhile badger photo. That was great. That was a worthwhile badger photolj that was great. That was a worthwhile badger photo. I want to talk about breakfast again. You know when Companies Cut out choices for their customers and once upon a time kelloggs in 200a asked its customers in korea, i think, kelloggs in 200a asked its customers in korea, ithink, if kelloggs in 200a asked its customers in korea, i think, if they wanted a new flavour of cereal and it they wa nted new flavour of cereal and it they wanted chocolate or green onion flavoured cereal. Right . So everyone, they plumped for onion but then kelloggs was accused of vote rigging and all the staff and finally kelloggs has brought out an onion cereal. It is green and you can see the box there. If you wanted onion flavoured cereal, it does now exist. On the face of it it does not sound appealing but continuing with the theme of breakfast, i think this is done tongue in cheek someone who calls herself michelle from North Carolina who apparently has posted in the past about how to make a perfect cup of tea and telling people, she is american, and she is telling the british how to make tea. And here she is telling us how to make ends on toast. I have not seen the video but you can see the sequence here full she has a piece of bread and then puts the beans onto the bread and puts the cheese, a piece of cheese on top and then puts all of that, it is not toasted, puts all of that, it is not toasted, put it all in the microwave stop that she call it beans on toast . That is beans on toast. That is just mess on a plate, personally. And no one will listen to her about how to make a cup of tea. Interestingly this morning i made tea to bring in andi this morning i made tea to bring in and i put too much milk in and then i left the teabag in for i think a total of 9. 5 minutes full of that is horrible. Was it it up . Was it peter . It was lovely to was it better . It is 19 minutes past six and lets talk about the undisputed heroes of the last few months keeping us safe for so long. Frontline emergency workers including doctors and paramedics could be honoured with a permanent monument in central london. They are statues that are admired. World leaders who changed so much. War heroes his bravery is marked. Campaigners who brought significant political shifts and foot callers who altered the face of the game. Add to that list this jamaican nurse and in 2016 she became the first named local woman to be remembered this way, outside saint thomass hospital in london. She cared for british soldiers during the crimean war. Many now view her as an example of how to get a statue right. Any future plans for memorials in london orany future plans for memorials in london or any major city needs to have three considerations. How it engages with the public, how it tells the whole story of that monument and it has to be inclusive. If you do not have those three key criteria than we will have memorials and statues that represent the past and not reflecting the future of britain. This model of a planned statue could not be more timely. The memorial to Emergency Service workers called a 999 cenotaph. There will be a police officer, a firefighter, a coastguard, a search and rescue worker with their dog, a paramedic, and added in recently, a dock or a nurse with personal protective equipment two of the figures are women, one an asian paramedic and the other a black doctor and nurse. We are aiming for accuracy because it isa we are aiming for accuracy because it is a historical marker, a milestone one is putting down the people will look at in 200 years time and say, oh, yes, that was a particular period. Statues and largely paid for by private donations and for the Emergency Services memorial, lock down meant that all the fundraising plan put on hold. There is now a renewed push to raise the £3 million needed to get the statue built. That monument will bea the statue built. That monument will be a National Symbol of the sacrifice, heroism and remembrance of the millions of men and women who served in the more than 7000 Emergency Services personnel who tragically lost their lives in the line of duty to keep us all safety to the aim is for the new statue to find its place among some the countries most loved monuments where people come to laugh, to reflect or to remember. If all the money is raised there will be a national Emergency Services memorial up by 2023. Lets talk now about schools, a focus of our programme this morning. Staggered start times, no mixing between year groups and are focusing on core subjects. That is a few things that children are expected to face when they return to school in england in september. Full details of the plan expected to be announced later today in a special press conference. And johnson is at a school in west sussex for us. How does it feel being back at school, dan . Always a treat to be back in the classroom and this is the governments plan to make sure that every child can do that. This is a secondary school, the photography and art corridor. 0ne secondary school, the photography and art corridor. One of the subjects that could be reduced or limited so that students can focus on catching up in english, maths and science. The main thing is the reduction of social distancing in schools like this down to one metre and perhaps abolished altogether in progress schools to make sure that any students as possible can return to the classroom in september. My colleague has been filming at a school. When these children return, then number will swell from a0 to 900. Clearly the social distancing rules in place now will need to change. The change has been a constant, of late, and staff are confident they can cope with more. Our strategy is that we are hoping for and anticipating and looking forward to having all of our children back with us having all of our children back with us in front of us in september. We are ready and geared up for the children to come back in. We know that we can manage and we know that we can navigate a way through because we have just done it ethic and where parents can decide whether or not to send children to school now, in autumn, attendance will once again become compulsory. So anxious families will need to be persuaded. We have been making well over 600 phone calls each week to our families, to touch base and check that they are ok in those relationships have now become strong and that is a positive from this experience. We will be leaning on those relationships to support them and their children. So what do pa rents and their children. So what do parents think . On the health side of things, as long as there is guidance for the classes to be safe i would be happy to send them back. My daughter is already back two hours a week at secondary school and is finding that fine. 0bviously they are all spaced apart. For children of different abilities and some are getting on with their work and some are not in my concern is doing back in septemberthat are not in my concern is doing back in september that everyone will be ata in september that everyone will be at a different level and if they are considering putting people into a bubble, as i have heard, i dont know how that will affect how everyone works. I would like to know whether or not if we can still have apa whether or not if we can still have a pa curriculum creative curriculum and it not just a pa curriculum creative curriculum and it notjust be monday to friday of core which i know is valuable but the students opinion matters and i would like. The day, is it going to be full time, monday to friday, will they be staggering start and finish . Just getting a benchmark of where the kids are at, knowing that i have sufficient time to put the content in for the gcses between now and may would be good, providing exams are not going to be pushed back. That would be the biggest things, just deceive the kids are still on track. The usual september concerns about school uniform, pe kit or new subjects will take a backseat. The will be safety, reassurance and hopefully a guarantee that pupils will be able to catch up. The back to School Checklist will be like never before. And with me this morning i have two head teachers. Michael is the boss here at the secondary school and him as the boss of the Primary School down the road that feeds kids in full with social distancing in school reduced to one metre for secondary kids, does that solve your practical problems and help you get classes full again . Does not matter if it is one of two metres. We can still not get more than 15 in the classroom, they cant use the stairs at the same time, i have six toilets we re at the same time, i have six toilets were nearly 1000 students. Social distancing does not matter, as long as there are social distancing we cannot be full on any day in september. So how do you solve that if the government commits that every child will be back . They raise the expectation and we cant do it. It will have a system where some stu d e nts will have a system where some students will be in on sundays and depending on what is said later today in regards to bubbles or whatever it might be, we will have to work with that. But social distancing means we are not open for full attendance in september. Tim, are you content for social distancing to be effectively removed in Primary Schools to help you get classrooms full estimate i endorse the idea that social distancing has to be removed for schools to fully open from september. My biggest concern is the guidance that teachers may have to be two metres from the children and im already thinking of practical examples such as minding reception intake, these kids are already nervous and apprehensive and having to be so far from their teacher, i think there will be a lot of questions that need to be answered. What about finding finding parents. To be answered. What about finding finding parents. A school is a partnership and i dont want to find my parents £120 or £60 or whatever when there is mass unemployment in this area and also parents are apprehensive and nervous, concerned about covid 19 because it is still out there. A lot of discussion and questions to be resolved but we are out of time this morning. Much still needs to be done to reassure parents that it will be possible to get kids backin that it will be possible to get kids back in class and it will be safe. The education secretary expected to make an announcement later today. Just ask, right at the end there the head teacher said he did not want to find his parents if they do not send their children to school. The obvious question is will he . Indeed, yes. Tim, we werejust obvious question is will he . Indeed, yes. Tim, we were just wondering obvious question is will he . Indeed, yes. Tim, we werejust wondering if you do not want to find parents, how will you make sure every child does return, what will you do instead . We need to ensure that our site is as safe as it can be and we will reflect that in our local Risk Assessment but until there is a vaccination fork covid 19 i dont know how i can reassure every parent in my community. And michael, you feel the same . Finding is not the way to go mr mark a significant number of people in our community have been affected by the closure of the airport and i cannot afford to find parents. I will not be finding them in any way shape or form into amberand them in any way shape or form into amber and that is ludicrous. I am not going to be finding parents. If they make a decision that it is not safe nor right for their child to return we will work with parents in partnership but i will not find them. Thank you, guys. We appreciate your time this morning. Still a lot of questions about how this will actually work and whether the government can give enough detail today on the practicalities of getting every child back into our schools across england. Interesting what michael said there that he just will not do it, will not issue fines because they cannot guarantee over three classrooms. We will talk to the government minister a little later on at 730. If you have questions today, and there are so many questions about this, we will be speaking to the bbcs education correspondent a bit later on. So send in your questions and we will do our best ahead of the announcement coming later on today. We know in principle what they are going to say but if you have any questions, let us know in the usual ways. You can tweet us or use the hashtag. I have a question for matt this morning. You see, you smile when i say i have a question for you this morning. Most people grimace. Nervous smile. How are you . Are you fine . Yes, im well. That was it . I thought i would bring you a bit of sunshine to start of your thursday morning. There is some around. Some will stay dry through today but all of us going to see some wet weather at times over the next few days. Get the rain jackets ready at times over the next few days. Get the rainjackets ready and be prepared for windy weather to return to our shores. It is all due to a cloud ganging up in the atlantic starting to creep towards us. We have a line of the cloud, this light cloud in the satellite imagery is where we have a particularly wet start to your thursday. Northern england especially. Some of the heaviest rain at the moment is across parts of east yorkshire. But even away from that, a few showers particularly across wales, the far south of england and for the north and east of scotland. Now, much of scotla nd and east of scotland. Now, much of scotland and Northern Ireland start the day dry, some sunny spells here, one or two showers later. The rain we have a Northern England will gradually ease but it will stay rather cloudy and murky and a little bit on the chilly side here. To the south of that we will start to see some heavy and thundery showers break out through the afternoon, particularly across the midlands and southern england. They could come with some torrential downpours, but there will be a bit odd sunshine in between. The odd bit of sunshine for the grampians, turning windy in shetland, but many will stay dry for the bulk of the day. Chilly day across eastern scotland and a good pa rt across eastern scotland and a good part Northern England. Between the showers across southern england, highs of 21. The showers fading away through tonight, dry for a time but some longer spells of rain heading on towards Northern Ireland in western scotland as we finish the night and go into tomorrow morning. Temperatures, though, should hold up in double figures for many. But this weather system is what will be with us weather system is what will be with us through tomorrow, particularly the north and west of the uk. Relentless rain across the highlands and parts of western scotland, rain at times for Northern Ireland, and we will see some very heavy rain around parts of the Lake District and across snowdonia as well. The driest tomorrow will be across the south and east, hires around 21, but the wind to be picking up with a cool day across parts of scotland. More on that later. Back to you both. Thanks very much, we will see you later. Hello, this is breakfast, with Naga Munchetty and charlie stayt. It is 6 33am. Well bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment. But also on breakfast this morning sun, sea, sand, but still no confirmation of exactly where we can book a summer holiday. Nina will be trying to make sense of the situation with some travel agents after 7 00am. And well be talking to maltas minister for tourism after 8 00am. Mike is at the home of Wigan Athletic fc after the latics went into administration, amid warnings that 10 15 clubs could follow suit. And live music venues are also under threat. Well be chatting to the singer kt tunstall about why she is backing a campaignforthe government to step in. Good morning. Heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news the government is publishing its guidelines today for how schools in england should plan for the return of all pupils to full time education in september. The plans are expected to be based on reducing contact rather than social distancing, with year groups kept apart and the start of the school day staggered. Earlier leaks have suggested that masks will not be compulsory for either pupils or teachers. Schools in leicester will be closed to all pupils apart the children of key workers and those classed as vulnerable from today. Some Primary School pupils had been allowed back to the classroom after 1 june but the city has now gone back to the original lockdown rules following a spike in covid 19 cases. Travel companies are demanding clarity over which countries will be exempt from quarantine rules for passengers arriving in the uk. Last weekend, the government said it would create so called air bridges and travel corridors to countries with low rates of covid 19 infection. The department of transport says the system is being considered but is not established policy. Smart phones and weak laws have helped create the perfect storm of addictive, round the clock gambling. Thats according to a new report into the british betting industry. Proposals by the house of lords Gambling Committee include a ban on betting companies sponsoring sports kit or advertising in stadia. It also calls on the government to regulate so called video game loot boxes, where players pay to unlock hidden rewards as they work through a game. The report says problem gambling should be treated as a Common Mental Health disorder by the nhs, and that more specialist clinics should be opened. Lets speak now to lord grade, who is chairman of the Gambling Committee. Good morning. Thank you very much for your time today. We have gone through some of the proposals. Do they go far enough . They certainly do, and most importantly, most of our recommendations, the overwhelming majority of our recommendations, can be acted on today, tomorrow, if there is willingness by the Gambling Commission and the government to accept them. They dont require legislation. So what, in your opinion, will be the impact on that if it does happen tomorrow . Well, what we are aiming to do is to reduce the harm that is being caused. There is no question that the Regulatory Regime and the statute, the act, is way behind what is actually happening in the market with the smartphone. You know, you can set up all night gambling and lose hundreds of thousands of pounds if you are so inclined. And it is a toxic product. We all enjoy a flutter, and most people gamble safely, but there is a dark side to gambling. There are over 300,000 problem gamblers. There is on average one suicide of a problem gambler every single day. This has got to be tackled now, and the government cant wait, and the Gambling Commission needs to get its act together. The department for digital culture, media and sport has said we are absolutely committed to protecting people from the risks of gambling related harm, and we have been clear that we will review the gambling act to ensure it is fit for the digital age. It says it has worked closely with the Gambling Commission to introduce a wave of tough new measures. You are basically saying they are not tough enough. We have spent a year taking evidence on the subject, and the 2005 at is pretty much irrelevant so far as 2005 at is pretty much irrelevant so faras our 2005 at is pretty much irrelevant so far as our recommendations are concerned. There are only three recommendations out of 60 which require changes to the 2005 act. There are lots of things the government and the Gambling Commission can do now which will help to save lives, save misery for 3 Million People who get affected by tragedies and trouble in their families from problem gamblers. And we are soon going to be talking to a family whose son lost his life because of an addiction to gambling. There is a thing called loot boxes. Explain these. Loot boxes are in that kids play, and we are very anxious. There are 55,000 problem underage illegal gamblers in this country. That says two things. One, how are the kids getting into gambling to start with . What is the entry point . And secondly, why is the age verification not working as well as it should . 0n the entry point, there is no question that loot boxes, where you play a videogame, world of warcraft or whatever it is, and you pay money to open, basically it is a lucky dip. So it is entirely a game of chance, but technically it is not legally defined as gambling, and that needs to change so that loot boxes can be regulated. A lot of countries have started to regulate loot boxes, the netherlands, belgium, other countries have started, because they can see the dangers. Because it teaches kids to gamble, and you might add a virtual prize, you might getan might add a virtual prize, you might get an improvement in your character thats playing the game. 0r get an improvement in your character thats playing the game. Or you may get nothing. It teaches kids to gamble. Lord grade, thank you for talking us through those issues. Lets talk to a family who know all about the risks, too well. Charles and liz ritchie founded the gambling with lives charity after their sonjack took his own life as he struggled to cope with an addiction to online gambling. Theyjoin us now from sheffield. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Jack was, what, just 17 when gambling really took hold of him. Just for those people who dont know his story, just tell us a little bit about what happened. Well jack, as you say, was 16, 17 when he started, and he became addicted to fixed odd betting terminals in a shop right by his school, and a group of his friends were playing on these in their dinner our with their dinner money. And of course, there was no message that these are dangerous. Lord grade talked about a toxic product, and if you dont know that something is toxic, then you go on doing it. It is described as fun. And of course, because he didnt know that it was toxic, and that was what had caused his addiction, he blamed himself. And thats what causes a lot of the suicides, is a lack of a Public Health message, like we have with smoking. And of course, that absolute saturation of advertising. And i think its. Charles, can i just advertising. And i think its. Charles, can ijust ask advertising. And i think its. Charles, can i just ask you, advertising. And i think its. Charles, can ijust ask you, so jack took his own life in 2017. Now, we we re took his own life in 2017. Now, we were just hearing, took his own life in 2017. Now, we werejust hearing, i think took his own life in 2017. Now, we were just hearing, i think the estimates are there are 55,000 underage, illegal gamblers. You know, possibly the most Vulnerable Group of people. What, if anything, could be done today, immediately, that would make some difference, do you think . Well, i think that is lord grade said, most of the recommendations in his report could be implemented today. We do need a review of the gambling act, because it is totally out of date, but many of the recommendations could happen tomorrow. For those people who dont know, just give us a couple of exa m ples of know, just give us a couple of examples of things that you think could be done instantly. Ok, well, we could introduce affordability. At the moment the industry operates on a model that they extract as much money as possible. You could introduce affordability limits so that people can only gamble what they can afford. Another thing which could happen very quickly, and we we re could happen very quickly, and we were delighted to see this as a recommendation, was around product safety. Were not that all gambling is dangerous and highly toxic, but there are particular products, like there are particular products, like the Online Casino and slot games, which have addiction and at risk rates of as . So the report makes the point that we could introduce a safety rating for games, so that games can be classified, and indeed some products would have to be altered before they could be put on the market. Les, could ijust ask you as well, i am thinking that these days, and lord grade mentioned it as well, smartphones and the access to gambling is even easier thanit access to gambling is even easier than it ever was now liz. I dont know, for parents or friends of people who might be looking and thinking maybe one of their loved ones, someone they know, they think has some kind of a problem, what are the signs and what can people practice if they see someone getting into trouble . Well, i think some of the symptoms are insomnia, generalised anxiety, and part of our difficulty is that there is no standard training in the nhs at the moment, for gps. So if a young man presents to a gp with insomnia, i mean, young men dont tend to go to primary care anyway with insomnia or generalised anxiety, then you need to ask the question, are you gambling. Ithink to ask the question, are you gambling. I think it is really important to say that we have been contacted. You know, we are contacted. You know, we are contacted on a regular basis by families. As lord grade says, there isa families. As lord grade says, there is a death a day, and we had a new family, a death in may, like all the others, a bright, happy young man aged 28 who lost £16,000 online in just two days immediately before he died. And it is a well known high street company. The operators are constantly saying that they have cleaned up their acts. The truth is they havent, and the deaths are proving that. Well, i thank you both for your time this morning. And the message you are putting out, i mean, when you talk about a case like that it brings it home, doesnt it . A couple of days, £16,000, and the effect that has on a life. Charles and liz ritchie, who run the gambling with lives charity, speaking with us this morning. 15 years ago, Wigan Athletic were the toast of english football when they were promoted to the premier league. Seven years ago they won the fa cup. Today the club is in administration. Mike is at the dw stadium with the latest. What a change of fortune for the clu b what a change of fortune for the club and the fans watching. Absolutely. It would be a nightmare ending to this fairytale story that wigan have been over the years thanks to this man, the former entrepreneur dave whelan who really took the club from nowhere in the lower reaches of the Football League all the way to the premier league where they became established and then this amazing moment where they won the fa cup in 2013, defeating Manchester City in that famous match. Football needs moments like that and they need fairytales like wigan to keep the game fresh and alive. But we were warned that this would happen because of coronavirus. Clu bs would happen because of coronavirus. Clubs like wigan depend on fans coming through the gates, the gate receipts. Even at the championship level you do not get chunks of tv money coming in and we will warn this could happen unless more money was coming down from the premier league and even yesterdayjulia knight, the chair of the Digital Media sport and Culture Committee said he feared that 10 15 clubs could follow wigan into administration and less more money came down from the premier league. Meetings have been taking place between the english Football League and the premier league about this but it is unlikely anything will happen until the end of the season and when the seasons are finally completed, could you too late mr mark ironically, wigan have been the form team in the championship since start of 2020 and the minimal three games since the restart and they are going really well yesterday the player said they would fight to the finish. The club faces a 12 point deduction at the end of the season so they need to effectively beat 12 points clear of the drop zone but really it is what happens off the pitch that happens, the long term future and the administrators are saying that the club is finished u nless saying that the club is finished unless it can find the money now to get them through and pay 600 staff here until the end of the season. There is one ray of hope, dave whelan yesterday who relinquished clu b whelan yesterday who relinquished club control in 2018 said he would be willing to help. We dont know how but that is hope to cling onto because the fans are not happy. 0nly last month the club was taken over again by new owners in hong kong and we will speak to some of those fans at 730. Looking forward to that. Time now to get a medical view on the latest coronavirus developments. We do this almost every around this time. Fellow takeover now . Shall i take over now . Dr william bird is one of our regular breakfast gps and hes in reading. Do you have any medical advice on how to tell the time first thing in the mornings . We perhaps may carry on after the programme. The mornings . We perhaps may carry on after the programmelj the mornings . We perhaps may carry on after the programme. I will send you charlies details so you can let us know. How are you . Very good indeed. Are you working today . I know you are concerned about an emergency. Know you are concerned about an emergency. Perhaps more people talking about the impact that lockdown antivirus, the change of society and the way society operates is affecting Mental Health. It is. And it is something that is beginning to emerge. I have seen it and my colleagues have seen it, it is people who have just not had that usual kind of conversation that you have had a perhaps outside on the street or at work or even with Care Services looking after you, the Mental Health services have not been able to get face to face appointments with people. So you find that those who have real anxiety, those who are perhaps living in a lockdown in a family thatis living in a lockdown in a family that is difficult or on their own, they are really struggling and people working from home. We saw the lovely instance of that child putting the unicorn picture on the shelf, so lovely. But many people working from home, perhaps single pa rents working from home, perhaps Single Parents who are trying to deal with both the job where you are on a call centre with difficult customers on the phone and you have no backup so we see a real explosion of Mental Health problems and i think that is something we will have to deal with as we lead into winter because winter makes things more difficult again. I know you are on the governments Advisory Working Group preparing for winter. There has been a lot of talk about the risk of a second peak and i wonder if that also feeds into people who are now shielding i was a difficult home situation trying to balance that and work and the idea of the port of another wave hitting the uk. Yes. And we dont really know how winter will pan out stop we have the usual things have a cold winter, flew coming around and we have covid 19 so there is no doubt that things could be bad orjust a normal winter. But the important thing is that we all have 16 weeks to prepare and if you are concerned about how to deal with this next 16 weeks, i think we will see coronavirus levels fall, we will get outbreaks, absolutely and there will be local lockdowns but there will be a generalfall, and lockdowns but there will be a general fall, and people lockdowns but there will be a generalfall, and people are much more outdoors than they were but what we need to do is make sure that we are active. I do go on about this and being active is important to boost immune systems that most people who feel they have long term conditions or have been shielded are frightened about being active and there is a website in all the Health Charities coming together and it is we are under feasible. Co charities coming together and it is we are underfeasible. Co. Uk to give you the confidence to start activity. That is the first thing. Dashmac weareundefeatable. Co. Uk make sure you have an anti inflammatory diet, make sure everyone you know has a warm house including the elderly because of the winter is cold we do not want people to be cold we do not want people to be cold and increase your social network again stop it has been incredibly hard but that is one of the things that will keep us robust in our Mental Health. We have 16 weeks and this is a chance for eve ryo ne weeks and this is a chance for everyone to be positive before the winter. Until end on a positive note, thank you very much and have a good day in surgery. There is a lot of focus right now on local lockdowns. And labour have been criticising the government for the time lost in leicester. Labour say local officials should have been given more testing data at an earlier stage. Labours steve reed joins us now from south london. Thank you for your time this morning. Firstly, what is it that you would have wanted to happen differently in the leicester scenario . We have been listening to local government leaders who have said to me four weeks and saying to the government for weeks as well that they need data as early as possible on the rate of infection in their locality. If they could have that data they can start to plan for any interventions they may need to ta ke any interventions they may need to take if the rate of infection runs out of control. It took 11 days for the government to share with leicester the information they had that showed the outbreak was growing there and when the government finally said the lockdown needs to be imposed, no work had been done to clarify to the city council, to the police or the local population exactly what that local lockdown meant so we saw things happening too late and a lack of clarity and all could have been fixed in advance if the government had listened to local Council Leaders weeks ago so they could have put this in place. The government is on a fast learning curve in some of these situations and this is all not new. Given that scenario, looking at a place like radford which is effectively next on the potential list and it is important to point that out, at this stage it is only intentional. Do you know, for example, anything about the bradford scenario right now that gives you the same cause for concern that you had about leicester in terms of the amount of information they get locally about the extent of they get locally about the extent of the problem . What Council Leaders are telling me is the same concern that has affected leicester and it is affecting other towns borrowers and cities across the country and it is true that the government is on a fast learning close curve but i read to the Health Minister onjune eight asking them to share data with city Council Leaders to clarify what powers they would have if there was a local town needed stop i did that because local Council Leaders came to me because the government was not responding to them. To me because the government was not responding to themlj to me because the government was not responding to them. I wonder if you could be specific for us, for a moment because it does matter very much. Are you saying that as it stands now, given what we have learned from leicester, a city like bradford the government is still withholding information that could help them deal with the situation better . Is that specifically what you are saying in regard to bradford this morning . Council leaders were not getting the data they needed just in the way leicester did not get so there will be more le i ceste rs. Get so there will be more leicesters. I cannot tell you where because im not privy to that data book what has happened to leicester will not be unique until the government opens up and says that data with local Authority Leaders everywhere and they need to do it immediately full can i ask you about the situation with school. A lot of focus today is on the governments insistence that schools will reopen in september. In principle are you winning agreement with that mr mark labour has been in favour all the way through that schools should open. A school as soon as the is safe to do so. 0ur leader wrote the Prime Minister offering help to make that happen. What we see in leicester is where there is a spike in infection there may be reasons to do it differently in the key to knowing that is sharing the data but labour want schools to open as soon as they can, the government needs to show more leadership on this, they need to reassure parents who are very worried and they have reasons to be. They need to be reassured that all measures have been taken that all measures have been taken that are possible to keep children and teachers safe in those schools to until we do that there will be a lot of worried parents. We spoke to a head teacher this morning and we know that the government said the pa rents know that the government said the parents will be fine if children do not go to school to we spoke to a head teacher already this morning who said in no circumstances will he be finding parents who do not want to send their children to school in september. So which side of that argument are you on . |j september. So which side of that argument are you on . I have to say i think it is the wrong approach to fine parents. It is much better to talk to parents and reassure them and to show parents what the schools have done to ensure that social distancing can happen, whether it is required to reassure them that local authorities have an awareness of the rate of infection and locality rather than to leave them afraid. And if they are unconvinced and do not send their children to school, what do you do . If enough reinsurance is given, parents will be prepared to send their children back to school. But if they are not convinced, what do you do . |j back to school. But if they are not convinced, what do you do . I would not find them. It must be done through reassurance and messaging and if parents do not want to send their kids to school then we need to have one on one conversations with the schools and the parents but i do not think coercion in these circumstances is the right way. |j know there are many subjects that are coming to a head at the moment but can i ask you about our bridges as well . There is a lot of confusion right now about what will happen with our bridges and some suggesting now there may be many many more countries which we are allowed to have their bridges into the uk. What is the labour position as it stands right now . We support our bridges. I think a flexible approach to this where you can minimise the risk is the right thing to do. We want to see more testing of passengers, perhaps by testing the temperature before they get on a flight at an airport. People arriving here, i would like to see proper covid 19 testing carried out with results available within 2a hours a possible and if anyone is found to be in for they would be required to quarantine. But our bridges are a sensible way forward. Thank you very much for your time this morning. And at 730 this morning we will speak to the local government minister. Lets talk now to matt. I dont think we needed to go on holiday in the last few weeks such glorious sunshine. Anymore on the way . A little sunshine around today and thatis a little sunshine around today and that is to be favoured over the next few days we will see rain at times and it will turn windy again across the country. All these areas of cloud ganging up on the atlantic working towards us at the moment and this morning we have a little zone of white cloud where the wettest weather starts the day. Northern england is wet for some, especially around east yorkshire and we can see around east yorkshire and we can see a few showers to the south there, a few in Northern Ireland and the north east of scotland, many areas away from Northern England to start the day dry, burying cloud was sunshine here and there, a little chilly in the North West Highlands at the moment but warming up with sunny spell throughout. Cloudier Northern England, even if it is dry through the date and the emphasis for some of the heaviest downpours shifts southwards in the afternoon. A kid and misfit parts of central england, South East Wales there could be torrential downpour with thunder mixed in. A few showers later across the grampians towards shetland but away from that there will be some sunshine there for some of you and it will feel rather cool. You wont see that sunshine in eastern parts of scotland and the north east of england in particular. Into tonight we will see more in the way of showers to begin with and they will gradually eat away but as we go through to tomorrow morning and they had tomorrow, every rain in the west of scotland and north of ireland. All of that detail in half an hour. Welcome to breakfast, with Naga Munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today full time school for all children in september. The government is to unveil details later for more than 8 million pupils in england. In leicester, a local lockdown to deal with a surge in coronavirus cases, with schools closed today to all but the children of key workers. You might be keen to escape the british weather but we still dont know where we can go without having to quarantine on return. Travel companies are calling on the government to make things clearer, saying it is causing anxiety and because cost more jobs. Saying it is causing anxiety and because cost morejobs. Could cost morejobs. A star studded list featuring the likes of ed sheeran, sir Paul Mccartney and annie lennox call on the government to do more to protect the uks live music venues. They won the fa cup back in 2013, but now Wigan Athletic have become the first English Football Club to go into Administration Since the coronavirus pandemic. I will be talking to fans about this at 7 30am. Its thursday 2 july. Our top story schools in england will be told to stagger break times, Group Children into bubbles and focus on core subjects when they return to the classroom in september. The plans, based on reducing contact rather than social distancing, will be set out by the education secretary, Gavin Williamson. 0ur education correspondent dan johnson reports. Some children may be back in class, but for most, this is their 15th week of disrupted education, trying to learn at home or online. The impossible puzzle has been how to get them all safely back to school with social distancing in place. Spreading classes out needed extra space, and teachers we simply dont have, but the government committed itself to finding an answer. Were going to have to make changes as to how it currently operates. Weve seen a relaxation of social distancing rules, and were going to see the return of full class sizes. So what can we expect come september . The government is set to announce that social distancing will be abandoned in Primary Schools and reduced to one metre where possible in secondaries. Whole year groups will be regarded as bubbles, with staggered start times to keep them apart. Some subjects may be suspended at first, to focus on catching up in core classes like english and maths. It is possible that could lead to some gcse pupils dropping optional subjects altogether. And fines will return for parents who dont make sure their children are back in school. We will get confirmation of the detail later this morning, but there are still questions to address. What about school buses . There is a suggestion face coverings may be required, but theyre not being recommended in school itself. How will shared spaces be cleaned between classes . And, with bubbles potentially including hundreds of children, how will schools cope with the further disruption caused by a single case . And all this to be considered on the day most children in leicester stay at home once more, as schools lock down again because of the outbreak there. 0ur Political Correspondent iain watson is in westminster. Soa so a special downing street press conference this afternoon. Is this like one of the ones we used to have before, or Something Else . like one of the ones we used to have before, or Something Else . I think it will be very similar, actually, to the last regular one which was on 23june to the last regular one which was on 23 june with to the last regular one which was on 23june with the Prime Minister. It is the education secretary, Gavin Williamson, leaving today. But what the government has been doing is asking parents to participate, asking parents to participate, asking them about their concerns. So i think we will see at least the first couple of questions, maybe more, coming from the public rather than coming from the media. I think the reason for that is that getting kids back to school in september will depend entirely on parents being willing to send them back to school. So, for example, the recent statistics we have seen is that for year1 pupils in england, classes are only about one third full overall, even though 90 of schools are accepting pupils. Because as the Prime Minister put it, if the virus is circling like a shark in the water, parents are naturally very wary. And even if you introduce fines, it is not a good look in the middle of a pandemic to be finding thousands of parents. Fining. So todays press conference will be the beginning of a process of convincing pa rents beginning of a process of convincing parents it is safe to send children to school. And looking at the local lockdown in leicester, many parents asking when locally they will be given the data they needed to make the right decisions. The government has responded to that. The government has said two things, firstly the data was shared with leicester but the question was how much detail was with that data and how quickly did leicester get that detail . There is an argument between the government and leicester on that but what the department of health is guaranteeing now is that local authorities will have access to what they call a dashboard of data which will give them much more detail about where the disease may well be in their locality, so they will get information by postcode, for example. And with that more detailed information, it may then be possible in other areas not to have the citywide lockdowns we have seen in leicester. There has been some demand for street by street data, as well, although i am told that has been hampered by Data Protection concerns. But we are told the government simply too slow to get a grip on this crisis. Schools in leicester will be closed to all pupils apart the children of key workers and those classed as vulnerable from today. Some Primary School pupils had been allowed back to the classroom after 1 june, but the city has now gone back to the original lockdown rules following a spike in covid 19 cases. Pubs, cafes and restaurants in wales will be allowed to reopen from 13 july, thats a week on monday, but only to serve customers in outside areas. It will also depend on coronavirus cases continuing to fall. Tomos morgan is in cardiff. Tomos, this is a phased return for the hospitality industry. It has been so interesting seeing how it has been working in england so far. Of course, that date much soonerfor england. So far. Of course, that date much sooner for england. You are right, wales now the only one of the four uk home nations that hasnt got a date for indoor hospitality sectors to reopen. So i am just north of cardiff. They have actually adapted during this period and in order to survive they have converted into a village shop selling fruit and veg. Local takeaway is out of the hatch they have here in the pub. But this space i have now, this outdoor space they have for the pub. As you can see here, if we keep the two metre rule that has been suggested at the moment in wales, outdoor spaces to reopen in wales, will it be worth places like this reopening is a pub and restaurant, because you wont be able to fit many people here. Many pubs in wales dont have outside spaces and they cant use the pavement. So for those places, they will have to remain closed. So at the moment the situation is on 13 july, closed. So at the moment the situation is on 13july, those with outdoor spaces can reopen for drinks and forfood, outdoor spaces can reopen for drinks and for food, but have to remain within a two metre distance, and there is no discussion as of yet when that two metre rule may be reduced. Thanks very much. 300,000 residents in the australian state of victoria have entered lockdown as the coronavirus outbreak grips melbourne. The state is reimposing the lockdown in 36 suburbs, which will last for four weeks. 0ur correspondent phil mercer is in sydney. The situation in melbourne has changed quite dramatically. Just ring us right up to date with how it compares with the rest of australia, for example. Well, australias known coronavirus cases are well, australias known coronavirus cases a re pretty low well, australias known coronavirus cases are pretty low compared to other countries. We know australia has had just under eight thousand confirmed covid 19 cases. 10a people have died. In the last couple of weeks there has been a spike in infections in the state of victoria, centred on those 36 suburbs in the city of melbourne, the state capital. So as of midnight last night, those suburbs have gone into legally enforced lockdown. That means people cant leave their homes u nless means people cant leave their homes unless they are going for essential business such as shopping, work or study. And what it means is the authorities really trying to get to grips with this fresh round of infections. Authorities in victoria blaming weaknesses, failures in the Hotel Quarantine system. Citizens and permanent residents of australia returning home have been put into mandatory 1a day quarantine. Some of the infections have managed to get out of those hotels into the broader community, so the Authorities Say that this four week lockdown in melbourne aims to snuff out that rise in infections we have seen in melbourne in recent days. For the moment, thank you. The duchess of sussex felt unprotected and unable to defend herself when she was heavily pregnant thats according to Court Documents released as part of her ongoing privacy case. She is suing the publishers of the mail on sunday after the newspaper printed extracts from a letter she sent to her father, thomas markle, in 2018. Associated newspapers denies the duchesss claims and no trial date has yet been set. Some of the biggest names in pop, including sir Paul Mccartney, ed sheeran and annie lennox, have signed an open letter urging the government to help protect live music venues from the effects of the coronavirus. They want an extension to the furlough scheme for those working in the industry and the removal of vat from tickets when gigs restart. Here is our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. Ed sheeran and coldplay both british acts who can fill stadiums around the world. Today, theyre trying to help those who work in some of the uks smallest venues. They are amongst the 1,500 acts who have signed a letter calling for the government to give the live music sector Financial Support, arguing that the lack of shows this summer has left tens of thousands ofjobs at risk. Jools holland has been gigging since the 19705. Filters down from every level. Because the smaller the venue, the harder its going to be for them. The smaller the band, you know, in their stature, the harder its going to be for them. It has a knock on effect to everybody. Kaiser chiefs were supposed to be touring this summer. They think it could be a devastating year for those who work behind the scenes. Youve got people doing jobs that they do them for love, they do them for the love of music, the love of community, you know, in their community. And if those people disappear off, its because they have to, because they cant afford to hang around. Then you lose those people, and theyre hard to replace, and impossible to replace. For three decades, emma banks has put on concerts by the likes of Kylie Minogue and katy perry. She is worried that many of the uks Grassroots Music venues will simply never reopen. Its so, so disturbing. Once the rent isnt paid on that venue anymore, whos to say that it doesnt get bought up and knocked down, and it becomes another block of flats, or an out of town shopping centre, or whatever it is. Its so hard. The government say theyre already providing unprecedented Financial Assistance to organisations and artists, such as loans and the Job Retention scheme, and theyre looking at Additional Support for the industry. As forjust how much this issue has brought the British Music scene together, the open letter has been signed by both liam and noel gallagher, the first time for years the feuding brothers have been willing to sign the same thing. Lots of questions at the moment about how, if, when, you might be able to take a foreign holiday this summer. If you want to, if you want to. Nina is with a couple of them in blackpool. Nina is at a travel agency. Waiting for this announcement on so called air bridges, where can they go to . That is the announcement we have been waiting for this week. It didnt come yesterday, as we were expecting. It might not come today, it might be tomorrow. Look at these tantalising brochures. Cyprus, greece, italy, spain, places where at the moment you can travel but not come back. Ok, we have one or two problems with the link there. We will try and go back to it a little later on. It is one of the issues at the moment. We had expected an announcement earlier this week in connection with the air bridges. That has been delayed for a few days. We are speaking, in fact, this morning to one of the tourism bosses from malta. Malta is a big tourism destination for uk holidaymakers, so we will try and get some clarity from that side, if you like. We spoke to the Greek Tourism Office on saturday, and obviously their take on quite what might happen is slightly different from what we are hearing from this side. Charlie said we would try and get back to nina. The magic of tv and technology might be on our side for a moment. Nina, you are with a guest now. We lost you there, can you hear us now . Sorry, we may have lost our signal in the blood pool rain. This is bill, a travel agent who has dealt with covid 19 four months and now the hope the travel might resume but not necessarily. You must have had many calls about these averages but so much ambiguity. We have had three or four months now of dealing with nothing but soul destroying situations, giving refunds, trying to advise people about the right thing to do. It has been horrendous. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. It is a long tunnel and an unclear tunnel. It is. In one of the problems we have his government does not help. There is no dedicated minister for Outbound Tourism in a country where people want to travel. Consumers in the travel agent, we need some government to make that point. Someone who understands the industry. Why not make this appointment so that we can cut through all these corridors of power . You are desperate to see this announcement today on the list of places to travel to and from because that affects things like insurance. It is dylan gamble but what do you say to consumers who want to walk . The Consumer Needs to make sure they have insurance in place so talk to your insurer because the last thing we want is people travelling and not being insured. That would be a worst Case Scenario stop lets talk to a couple over here who booked to go overseas and they are sure they are covered but it must feel a little bit edgy compared to previous bookings. What made you think on thursday that you would go for it . Holidays booked at work that once you decide what you want to do, we have already cancelled a few short breaks and we wanted to take the opportunity for some risk, because we want to get some sun and like thousands of others, probably. We have remained working and have been lucky but many people have been struck stuck in houses so we took the chance but we want to get some sun. Linda, you are a fan of independent travel where you book the flights yourself and look for an apartment or in a b b yourself. It is the scope narrowed . Absolutely. We lost three holidays that we put together ourselves and have had an absolute nightmare getting flight money back and hotels back and a couple of holidays that we booked, no problem at all and they were refunded so we have confidence that booking through a travel agent and with a big company like jet to, that we will go and if we do not go and the holiday is pulled, we will be cove red. The holiday is pulled, we will be covered. Hopefully by august all will be well and we are looking forward to a holiday, those who can afford it and ifit forward to a holiday, those who can afford it and i fit enough to travel. What is the first thing you would do when you land . Make us jealous. In an outside bar with a nice cool beer. And social distancing and masks on the plane does not put you off . That is par for the course. You need to wear a mask ina for the course. You need to wear a mask in a taxi and life has changed. But we deliberately booked resort that we had been to before and we know there is a lot of out. Abilities. It isjust around the corner so we have another option there. Were not gambling somewhere we dont know, we are taking a calculated risk that we will be able to go to a resort that we know. Ooh, sounds good. Can i come . They booked with a package deal that they say will cover them if advice on travel does change you need to be certain. If you book at the moment, what your insurances. The key thing now is for the government to make clear where we can travel to without having to quarantine on return and yesterday we saw the economic implications of this suspension in travel. Thousands ofjobs at airports, playmakers and even uppercrust, where we buy our food, this is really, really important. It is important to be clear on the insurance thing stop i know the agent you are talking about, was talking about travel in the future when the averages exist. As it stands right now, your insurance cover will not cover you for a foreign holiday. If you book a holiday today, where the advice on the government website is as clear as day is to not travel unless it is essential, if you go on trip, the advice is the same. Even if it changes, you are not covered. But steve a nd changes, you are not covered. But steve and linda spoke to their provider and have a travel dl where they can get a refund but that is not the case for every trip. After the holidays, its back to school, and this morning youve been sending us your questions about the governments plans to get all children in england back into the classroom from september. The full details will be announced later, but our education editor branwenjeffreys has a good idea of whats in store. How good an idea do you have . Is it one of those ones where we pretty much know what the deal is in september . I think we know a lot of the big pick, the government itself has said it wants to have bigger groups of children and that means probably much less mixing within those groups. They could be big as a whole year group which, of course in secondary school, could be 100 kids or more. But there will be details, im sure, that we are yet to hear although a lot has been dribbling out. Questions from so many people interested in the story so lets start with this one. Is the curriculum going to be literacy and maths . And what about the other subjects . Some schools will be putting an emphasis on a catch up curriculum and they are very worried about getting children over the line for english and maths because if you do not get your grade four in england you have to reset and keep on resetting until you pass and you are 19 which is misery if you struggled with either of those subjects. Schools will focus on those core subjects and many have been doing english maths and science, for example, with year ten stu d e nts science, for example, with year ten students who have been going in or having some face to face sessions this term. But the government is very keen that a broad curriculum remains. They are putting the emphasis quietly the fact that they expect once schools have their catch up expect once schools have their catch up plans in place for individual pupils, they do not expect to see them watering down the range of gcses that children may sit next year. We do know that some schools are thinking about whether or not or are thinking about whether or not or a few pupils at least, it may be wise for them to drop a couple of subjects that are not so essential to what they want to do next. Following on from this, how will children get back on track with their learning, mindful of your last a nswer of their learning, mindful of your last answer of what they will be studying. They have all had different experiences of lockdown so some teenagers will have had a quiet room to study n and a device to study on, a school that offers a lot of online learning. 0thers study on, a school that offers a lot of online learning. Others will be lucky to do an hour or two a day and they may be in a noisy flat sharing a device with brothers or sisters. So it is not as though children are even starting from the same place. Additional money has been offered by the government to schools in england for one on one tutoring or small group tutoring. £350 million specifically earmarked for that and then another £650 million which schools can bid for but they are being expected to use it on things for which there is an evidence based and again, the theory is that that may be best used to have small group tutoring and schools need a catch up plan in place for every pupil and every school i visited is thinking very ha rd every school i visited is thinking very hard about that. But there is no doubt that teachers will have a mountain to climb to help rebuild confidence and motivation as much as anything else. Some of these questions are about education and summer about logistics. This question from john. With social distancing in mind, how will school buses cope with getting children to and from school . Next years use these so there is not much chance of sticking to a bubble. That is outside of the immediate environment of school, isnt it . But it is a real issue. It is. And i think this could be one of the real headaches come autumn, particularly in rural areas where people travelling more or where people live in a series of towns and may be travelling from outside town into school. There is no clear answer yet and we will have to see the detail from government guidelines. We can expect as eve ryo ne guidelines. We can expect as everyone else has been told to avoid using public transport where possible, to walk or to cycle but that still does not get round the difficulty of what you do if you separate year groups and, normally, they would share the same bus. Some schools have pay for taxis this term for pupils in year ten or 12 who need to get in but that is not financially sustainable in the long term. Financially sustainable in the longterm. We spoke to a couple of head teachers earlier who are basically very reluctant to issue fines and we have had sarah who asked, she is the parent of a vulnerable disabled child, she wants to know she keeps her daughter home will she be fined stop there is a wider issue that head teachers actually understand the anxiety and the difficulties that many parents face. There are, as sarah says, particular issues. If you have a child with some kind of health vulnerability, and many children with special Educational Needs or a disability, of course, do. I cannot imagine any circumstance in which a childlike that not attending would lead to their parent being fined and, actually, any head teacher you speak to, they say we will not start with fines insert amber. They want to build confidence with parents that it to build confidence with parents thatitis to build confidence with parents that it is safe for children to come back and good for them to be back in school, back to that normality and seeing their friends but, school, back to that normality and seeing theirfriends but, most importantly, catching up on all the education that they missed out on. So although fines are there in the sense that the government is saying that school becomes compulsory again, insert amber, i would expect in september, i would expect that head teachers use the discretion they have in law to take a softly softly approach to thank you very much and we will speak to you again when we know a little more until then, goodbye. Simon clark, the local government minister will speak to us in about three minutes and we will put many of the issues that to him as well. In the meantime, lets get weather details. Good morning to you both. A little bit of sunshine to your thursday morning because i will talk about ring once again. More to come over the next few days, particularly at times in the west and you can see the wind picked up again. It will take quite windy across the country as through into the weekend. Not too bad at the moment but the weather is out waiting in the winds pushing towards us slowly and at the moment this wide area of cloud across Northern England is where we have the wettest weather for today with heavy rain across parts of east yorkshire, not great on the 62. A few showers south and north and many places starting dry was a little bit of sunshine breaking through the morning clouds. 0n the cool side across parts of western scotland but for many it is a dry day. A little dry across parts of Northern England where we have the heavy rain at the moment but to the heavy rain at the moment but to the south of that across the midlands east anglia southern england especially this is where we see heavy and thundery downpours developing later and they could bring with them a chance of minor flooding. A few showers in county down across the grampians and shetland in the sunshine between them, temperatures reaching mid teens but across scotland and Northern England it will be a chilly day, coast especially close to the coast to those showers you see form this afternoon and evening will fade away and then more in the way of persistent rain spreading us and taking us into friday. Temperatures will hold in double figures forjust about all but as we go into friday, some very persistent rain to come across western scotland. And around cumbria in the late districts, this is where we will see the rain persist all day. Rainfall levels will totter up and could see flooding before the day is out. For the south and east, some cloud and sunshine and dry in shetland but good to see 12 degrees, 21 and the sunshine across the south into friday night, those weather fronts will push away from scotland leaving a trail across the central areas which will bring more rain to the likes of the Lake District and western parts of wales in the rain will return for a time on saturday morning in Northern Ireland and southern parts of scotland before easing away. Cloud and the occasional rain pushing southwards across england and wales but the afternoon should be a little dry and bright and, if anything, temperatures rising a little on what we see through friday fourth into sunday, get ready for the windiest weather of the weekend, a mixture of sunshine and showers. Thank you very much, matt. You cant say thank you enough, can much, matt. You cant say thank you 7 much, matt. You cant say thank you enough, can you . A good motto for the day. Quite polite, charlie and i love it. Good morning to you. Thank you very much forjoining us. Naga munchetty and charlie stayt. Weve been talking about the lockdown in leicester this morning, and also the return of all children to schools in england from september. Lets talk now to the local government minister, simon clarke, whojoins us from westminster. Good morning to you. Are you well . think i should join in by saying thank you as well. Well, welcome to the team. Shall we talk about leicester and local lockdowns . How are you going to avoid a similar situation to what has happened in leicester, not in terms of the spread of coronavirus, you obviously have no control over that. I am talking about there being this long gap, 11 days, between you being able to provide the correct information to provide the correct information to local authorities on testing, so they can act sooner . Well, the situation in leicester is obviously one we want to avoid as often as possible. Our intention is always to catch outbreaks early, whether the location is a specific school or a workplace, and we are sharing ever more granular detail as the sophistication of our understanding deepens, with local authorities. So last week we were able to share postcode level data with local authorities up and down the country, and that offer went out on the 22nd. A number of authorities to get up on the 2ath, lester took it up on the 25th. And clearly that represents the next level, if you like, of fine tuning our understanding of the situation in individual communities. But we have been sharing pillar two data, that is to say the widest level of data with local authorities, since 11 june. 0bviously authorities, since 11 june. Obviously we will continue to work very closely with all of them to make sure that we are providing the proper support. If leicester had that data on 11 june, proper support. If leicester had that data on 11june, why proper support. If leicester had that data on 11 june, why is the lockdown only happening now . Because our understanding of the situation there has continued to evolve. 0bviously there has continued to evolve. Obviously we have been monitoring the situation in leicester. Sorry to interrupt, ijust the situation in leicester. Sorry to interrupt, i just want to be interrupt, ijust want to be clear, you say you have been monitoring the data. Has the data significantly changed since 11 june, which justifies the delay in this lockdown . Yes, it has. So obviously leicester was one of a number of areas where we were monitoring where the rate of infection was higher than elsewhere. The difference over the course of the last week, which prompted the intervention this week, is that in other communities that rate of infection was starting to level up, which level off, which is great, in leicester it was beginning to rise, and it was that fa ct beginning to rise, and it was that fact that we were not seeing the smoothing of the curve which led to our intervention this week. Leicester is in every sense an outlier. The rate of infection there is three times higher than even the next most affected community, and therefore we did feel the need to intervene. Well, the rate of infection in leicester is 135 per 100,000 people. In bradford, it is 69 cases per 100,000 people. That was on 21 june, 69 cases per 100,000 people. That was on 21june, so 69 cases per 100,000 people. That was on 21 june, so actually, that is more than half at the moment. I mean, i dont want to get too bogged down in numbers, but you say there was a significant rise in leicester between 11 june and the moment lockdown there was a announced, to 135. Was it as big a jump as from 70, say, to 135 . The point is the trend, the curve wasnt flattening. The figures i got for bradford are actually a2. 8 but i appreciate the data continues to evolve. I mean, the point is that leicester wasnt a bad trend. Bradford is the next one down our list. We continue to work very closely there. I spoke to the Council Leader myself on tuesday, and i know collea g u es myself on tuesday, and i know colleagues at the department of health will be continuing to very closely with them. Look, we have to ta ke closely with them. Look, we have to take these situations on a local basis, and the trends in different communities will diverge, in some cases, from the national average. The national average, it is important for listeners here, is continuing to go down steadily, which is fantastic. But where we do see greater pressure, we have shown that we wont hesitate to act. And i think that is the whole sensible premise for us to get out of this situation, that you focus on the problem areas but you allow the rest of the country to focus on recovery. Steve reed, the shadow local government secretary, i am sure you are familiar with government secretary, i am sure you are familiarwith him, government secretary, i am sure you are familiar with him, says he has spoken to many local council members, leaders, and they say the data is not being shared with them. I think that is somewhat behind the curve. As i say, we have issued the postcode data, and authorities can access that this week. We are offering the data dashboard containing snapshots of pillar one and pillar two data, and that has been the case since 11 june. And look, we continue to evolve the data that is available. We want to make sure it is as granular and as accurate as it can possibly be. But if there is any suggestion authorities are not getting what they need. With that in mind, then, what is the threshold when you would impose a lockdown. Give me a number out of 100,000. Because that is something that local Council Leaders and Council Authorities something tangible. They can at least say we are heading towards this, and they can be prepared. Well, we need to look at what the appropriate point is to intervene. Asi appropriate point is to intervene. As i have said, it is much more about the trend and it is about raw numbers. It is about whether or not you are seeing a sharp escalation in the number of cases or whether you are seeing the cases starting to level off, and then in due course decrease. It is less about an actual number than it is about how the data is moving. And as i say, in leicester, what made it stand out was that, if you look at all the other areas of the east midlands, you are seeing this curve, whereas in leicester it was still very much on an upward spike, so thats why we decided to step in. There has been talk about postcode data. Lets talk about bradford, then. Has bradford right now got street by street data . Is it prepared . Bradford will have access, yes, to the postcode level data which allows you to break it down to the nearest possible. When you say has access, you mean it has the data . All local authorities have been able to log into this data since the 22nd. They basicallyjust need to sign an access agreement, which makes sure they obviously respect peoples previously. The bulk of authorities did so on the 2ath and 25th. Bulk of authorities did so on the 24th and 25th. So Bradford Council cant come back in the same way Leicester Council has been able to come back and say we didnt have the data. Susan hinchcliffe and her team at bradford have the data. We work very closely with them to make sure that they have the most nuanced possible understanding of what is going on. We have a really good working relationship, very grateful with what they are doing. Can we talk about education . The government is going to announce measures to get schools in england, pupils and schools in england, pupils and schools in england, back in september. We have heard about that. We have been talking to a head teacher today. Michael ferry is the head teacher of a secondary school in west sussex, and talking about theissues in west sussex, and talking about the issues of defiance, because it seems that fines will be imposed on parents, but basically had teachers dont want to do a issue of fines. Effectively i am taking away eight weeks worth of free school vouchers. I will not be fining parents in september. If they make the decision it is not safe for their child to come back, i will not be fining them. What are you going to say to parents who decided is not safe for their children to go back to school . The most Important Message to get out is to say thank you for to the teaching profession. That is great, it is really positive. It is absolutely vital that children get back into education, and it is really welcome that the secretary of state will be setting out how we intend to do this for the rest of the School Population from september later today. I wont pre empt what he is going to say, but obviously we would agree, i think, with the head in saying we dont want fines to be the first recourse. But we are going to institute the normal expectation from september that children should be back in school. And i think that is absolutely right and appropriate. Iam sure is absolutely right and appropriate. I am sure the overwhelming majority of viewers would agree with that. How many cases need to be reported ina bubble, how many cases need to be reported in a bubble, regardless of how big it is, for the whole bible, it could be a whole year group, couldnt it, in secondary school, for the whole bubble to be sent back home and to isolate in the whole bubble. Bubble to be sent back home and to isolate in the whole bubble. We need to work with schools to understand the situation that is emerging in any class where that manifests itself. But we are not really seeing that. Well, hold on, honestly, there are going to be cases of coronavirus in schools. I am not wishing any ill on anyone, but it is going to happen. You must have a number. If you say to schools, 200 pupils are going to be together in one year group, of those, how many need to contract coronavirus for that to be deemed unsafe. That is nothing to do with schools. That is for you to dictate following the science. And the secretary of state for education will be setting out full details on this later today. So the secretary of state for education will have a number on that. The secretary of state will be laying out in full detail what we will be doing to ensure schools can return safely in the autumn, yes. And when that happens, if a bubble is deemed vulnerable, how is the test and tra ce syste m vulnerable, how is the test and trace system is going to work in terms of that . Can you guarantee it is going to work . Because that would now affect the families of that bubble, the households of that bubble, the households of that bubble, those who go out to work to pay for those children. They need to be tested straightaway, dont they . The children in the households, immediately. Well, thats right. And we are delighted by the way test and trace is working. So 72. 6 of all of those who test positive are being contacted, and of those, 88. 6 of their close contact have been reached through test and trace. We obviously want those numbers to go higher still, that is our absolute focus. If you test positive, you should engage with the test and trace system, make sure that you login the details of your closed contact, generally is closed contacts, people you are spending a lot of time with, notjust passing contacts, and they can be advised to self isolate. This is going to be the world that we live in. That is how you do it, and we have explained that a lot on this programme. But the problem is, or the question, i suppose, is can you guarantee that when someone does it they will get their test results back quickly and ina timely their test results back quickly and in a timely fashion so their pa rents, in a timely fashion so their parents, children can return to school and parents can return to work that is our focus. And that allows for the most effective deployment of test and trace, and nipping these outbreaks in the bud. And that is our wider aim here, that we stamp out these outbreaks before they gather momentum. So yes, you are right. You catch the individuals who are impacted, isolate them from the rest and allow the bulk of society to get on with life as normal. Thank you very much for your time this morning on breakfast. We are getting a clearer picture now from all sorts of walks of life, from industry to schools, we are talking about, as well, and now sport. Coronavirus is having an impactand mike sport. Coronavirus is having an impact and mike is at Wigan Athletic for us this morning. Tell us a bit more about what the news is there. It is not good, is it . Know, wigan have become the first club in english football to go into Administration Since the coronavirus pandemic. We we re since the coronavirus pandemic. We were warned this was going to happen by many in the industry, and football and financial experts, and we are being told it could be 10 15 clu bs following we are being told it could be 10 15 clubs following wigan s lead at the moment. This is a club that has been going really well this season, as well. Certainly since the start of the year, the best team in terms of form since 2020 in terms of the championship. Now they are being hit with a fine and a 12 point deduction. Many fans saying this is not fair because it is not the clubs fault they are being forced to play behind closed doors and the financial problems that brings. First lets bring in one of the administrators, he has been in football many years, former chairman of leeds united. Good morning to you. Thank you for your time this morning. Firstly, what is the amount, then, you need to raise to try and save the club and keep it going at least to the end of the season, first of all, and pay the 600 staff . To go up to the end of the season, we have only got a month to go, and we have only got involved yesterday. Were looking forward to the flows as we speak. We dont have an exact figure but what i can tell you is we will cover the cost of getting to the matches and making sure they are played, because unless we finish the season, there is no hope of saving this club. And how realistic do you think it is . Fans wa nt realistic do you think it is . Fans want some optimism. Can you give them that this morning . We our very best. We have never lost one. I will say to the fans, we are doing our best. Make sure you have a club to watch next season. Keep the faith. And one of the most surprising things is, and the reason a lot of fa ns were things is, and the reason a lot of fans were shocked, is because they had only been taken over again less than a month ago. Thats correct, and thats something we will have to investigate in due course. 0ur and thats something we will have to investigate in due course. Our First Priority is to get to the end of the season, and to find a buyer. I am pleased to say that since yesterday i have had ten different people e mailed me asking for nondisclosure agreements, which shows there is interest out there to acquire the club. The difficulty comes when it comes to writing the check. club. The difficulty comes when it comes to writing the check. I say, well, that is some reason for optimism. And what about the reports yesterday that the former owner, who is behind me with the fa cup that they won in 2013, dave whelan may be willing to help in some way . they won in 2013, dave whelan may be willing to help in some way . I shall be contacting mr whelan as soon as possible to see what we can do together, and i will ask anybody who wants to help on this to contact me as soon as possible. Ok, gerald. We will have to leave it there because we have to bring in the fans now, but thank you very much indeed for that update. Let me run that by Adam Pendlebury and jay whittle, another superfan. Pendlebury and jay whittle, another super fan. So he pendlebury and jay whittle, another superfan. So he was saying he pendlebury and jay whittle, another super fan. So he was saying he was speaking to at least ten potential investors who could offer some hope for the future but tell us your shocked yesterday, the form team in the championship, clear of relegation as things stood, and now this point deduction and fine, but the points deduction is what concerns fans, which takes you to the bottom, effectively, and you have to stave off relegation. And yet it comes off so much success this season. This an absolute hammer blow yesterday and a huge shock. We are invested in this club and follow them around the country. We follow them around the country. We follow them home and away and i have followed them for over 30 years and there was no indication of this happening. No hints, there were contract extensions taking place and the form has been absolutely exceptional and to actually go from the high of securing championship status for another season to administration and everything that that brings with us and, of course, the even bigger hammer blow of the 12 point deduction, it is nice to have a little hope and that is all we can cling to it moment because there is so much inherent uncertainty. There is a petition because many fans say it is unfair. Clu bs because many fans say it is unfair. Clubs have gotten into administration but this is different because of the pandemic. Having to play behind closed doors. Should normal punishment apply . play behind closed doors. Should normal punishment apply . I feel that isa normal punishment apply . I feel that is a decision only english football can make. The pandemic has cost we can make. The pandemic has cost we can dearly and we have lost the biggest source of income for the club. Cost wigan dearly did it the Bigger Picture football is what keeps us going in this current pandemic but i dont understand it. I was gobsmacked yesterday. I got messages from my friends and i thought it was a joke. But to see it happen to my Football Club it is horrendous and, you know, it is heartbreaking to see. And especially since you thought you were in safe hands again. I dont want to speculate who is responsible but i do think there needs to be an investigation by local authorities. It comes as there are so many amazing people working here and people could lose theirjobs. This foot ball clu b people could lose theirjobs. This Football Club is the life and soul of the community and the pandemic has been the prime example really of what it means to be a fan. The club donated to a fan his child passed away and they are making sure they are here for other people, dropping off essential goods and that sums up who we are as a club. We have to leave it there the best of luck. The way you rose from the bottom of the Football League to premier league, winning the fa club cup. And shortly i will speak to the of the site that boosted that cup back in 2013. Thank you very much and we will talk to you later. 11 minutes before eight and the rest of england prepares to ease the lockdown this weekend. The people of leicester have gone back to living under the strictest rules. Theyre trying to contain a spike in covid 19 cases. But, asjo healey reports, it has been a tough few days for a city that was looking forward to the light at the end of the tunnel. This is almost also my last day with you. School is out, again. A bit sad we did not get as much time Primary School as we should have stopped and we missed a lot of things full we were supposed to have a social distancing picnic and now the lockdown has come back with another spike and we cant do that and it is really sad. I feel really sad. Look out as hard on the children at this Primary School and on their parents. It is worrying times. You dont know what is out there so probably best that it has been extended. You have to do it, i suppose, for the good of the city and the whole country, really. But was it needed earlier . Should the government have acted sooner in leicester . When we spotted the start ofan leicester . When we spotted the start of an uptick in leicester we sent in more mobile testing units and we worked with the council and, for instance, we went into some of the workplaces that have seen a cluster of cases and we work with them to isolate people who had tested positive for all who had been close to those who are the disease. We took those measures in several other areas as well and that has been affect if. In less it was clear that the outbreak had got into the community and the number of community and the number of Community Cases was rising so we needed to take further action. think we have always been very clear that we are not at the end of the pandemic andl that we are not at the end of the pandemic and i think those are messages we have been pushing throughout, me and my colleagues up and down the country, to indicate that we really need to make sure we are on the front foot of this. Meanwhile, some businesses say they feel on the back foot and want more help. It is really frustrating. Clearing the cafe out once was heartbreaking and to do it again is worse. We have a boot full of fresh stock for this week and the prospect of having people sit in on saturday, there was extra stock. It is all been paid for and i dont know how that will be paid for. Uncertainty is wealth of non essential shops, whether they can open or not depends on if they are in the lockdown boundary. By ten oclock we finally had a map with some idea of where we we re had a map with some idea of where we were in the lockdown but u nfortu nately i were in the lockdown but unfortunately i am just about in it. Soi unfortunately i am just about in it. So i had to close my shop again. The worry for them and for many is how long this latest lockdown will last. Now, the government says it will provide local authorities with a detailed breakdown of covid infections by postcode so that localised spikes can be spotted sooner. Lets get more on this from Professor Mike tildesley, who is an expert in disease modelling, and susan hinchcliffe, leader of Bradford City council, the area with the next highest infection rate after leicester. Good morning to you both. Susan, i dont know if you heard the interview we had with the minister earlier, i asked interview we had with the minister earlier, iasked him if bradford had the data it needs right now to be able to prepare if, and it is a big if, a similar situation to leicester occurs. Do you have the data you need . In the last few days we have had more data than ever before which is welcome and we now have daily calls with Public Health england tracking the progress. We do need that mature relationship with government to make sure we keep getting that information because, obviously, no one wants to enter lockdown. I quoted the figures of 69 per 100,000 people, 69 people from every 100 thousand were infected and that was disputed. Regardless of that, are you in a position to know when, if, that number will rise you will be asked to consider looking down bradford . In the last week our number started to drop which is gratifying but we all know that can turn quickly with this infection which is highly infectious. We have calls with Public Health england that tell us that there is no reason to have local lockdown in bradford but it is just. 0bviously to have local lockdown in bradford but it is just. Obviously we need to redouble our efforts to make sure that everybody respects the rules. We are coming to a time, july four, we are meant to emerge from lockdown and this is not a normal time, this is not going back to normal and we need to recognise that this virus needs respect and we need to stay indoors and wash our hands. Those m essa g es indoors and wash our hands. Those messages are important. So in bradford right now are you able. Because what we are learning now is specific information in any kind of outbreak is crucial. So this morning, do you know how many people or how many homes in bradford are subject, for example, i assume there is some kind of extra quarantine measures, outside of the general down, how many people and how many homes right now are subject to any particular precaution . We know how many people have a positive test result in bradford and that is over a period of time so some people will now have come out of that and are well and are outside in the community again. We get more detail than we ever have before and we are crunching those numbers now for more intelligent. I using that we can target resources effectively and we can communicate with residents about how they should be social distancing more and in workplaces. But you cant tell us right now how many right now are subject to a particular extra quarantine measure . Because what we know from leicester is that a couple of days delay can lead to a very dangerous spike. Absolutely. So we have a multiplicity of data from the last a8 hours so, yes, we could tell you how many people have tested positive in the last week. We now have the postcode data. We also have individual postcard data to cross refe re nce , individual postcard data to cross reference, i dont think we have that. So we need cross refe re nce have that. So we need cross Reference Data as well as individual bits. So there is a lot more data crunching to do but we have far more data than we ever had for and wejust have far more data than we ever had for and we just need to use what we have. Regardless of the data, we have. Regardless of the data, we have been working hard to make sure that people are tested and hear the message so we have not been twiddling our thumbs. More testing has happened in bradford in the last 30 days than anywhere else in the north east so we are working hard to get those messages out and make sure people have access to testing. Thank you for laying out what is happening with you in bradford. Doctor, we have been hearing the questions asked when it comes to what the data can provide. What are the key bits of data needed in orderfor leaders of local authorities to act sensibly and quickly . Obviously the situation here as we see potential cases high ina numberof here as we see potential cases high in a number of places around the country. In the early stages the key thing is to get access to postcode level data to identify any local casters. Clusters. Because what needs to be done is isolating these clusters, whether that be by closing a workplace or a school so that we have local measures if there is evidence of local clusters. Only when there is a situation that sees sustained Community Transmission over a period of days would we see a situation where we get what we now see in leicester. It is important that this high quality local data is provided to local government because those teams on the ground need to be out there trying to identify and isolate this rapidly so we do not get the situation we currently see in leicester. In relation to the timing that we understand is crucial and there has been an argument over and there has been an argument over a seven day period lost. What difference does it make to a local situation like that when there is a day, three days, five days of delay in action . You are dealing with the virus. We know the incubation period of the virus is long so an individual can be infected for a period of, on average, about 5 six days but can be up to two weeks before they start to show symptoms. So when you look for cases you were always behind the curve, as it were. The cases you observed today would have been infected one or two weeks ago so we are always a little behind and therefore it is important to react rapidly. We saw with what down there has been a lot of criticism that they could not go into lockdown soon enough and it is quite important that if we seek a sustained rise in cases we need to react rapidly and put in local measures. What is the threshold in terms of when the number becomes difficult . We saw 135 from 100,000 in leicester and bradford is much lower than that and the trend is down. But what number gets hit when it becomes a number . It is very difficult because it is not really a matter of whether there is a threshold full of it is are you seeing a sustained rise in cases . If the curve is going up and there is evidence that may be local measures such as closing workplaces are not working and cases are still rising, and that is a situation when you need to put in a large scale town. Maybe you have the same number of cases per 100,000, but the trend is declining and that is therefore evidence that youre our number is less than one and you do not need measures. less than one and you do not need measures. r number less than one and you do not need measures. R number is less than one. Thank you very much to you and to susan, thank you both for your time. Headlines injust a moment. Good morning, welcome to breakfast. Our headlines today. Full time school for children in september, the government will unveil details later. In leicester, look a lot down to deal with the surge in coronavirus cases will see schools closed today to all but children of key workers. Good morning. You might be looking to escape the british weather, but where can you travel to without having to quarantine when you get back . Travel companies are calling on the government to provide clarity, saying indecision is causing anxiety and could cost more jobs. Over the castle on the hill. A star studded cast featuring the likes of ed sheeran, Paul Mccartney and annie lennox are calling on the government to do more to protect the uks live music venues. Good morning. They won the fa cup in 2013 but now Wigan Athletic first english Football League club to go into Administration Since the coronavirus outbreak. Im here this morning for breakfast and at 8 30am i will speak to the captain of that fa Cup Winning Team to get his reaction. It may not look like it but some of you will see sunshine today but there will be grey skies and downpours here and there, and over the next few days we will all see more wet weather and strong winds. Your full see more wet weather and strong winds. Yourfull forecast see more wet weather and strong winds. Your full forecast in see more wet weather and strong winds. Yourfull forecast in half see more wet weather and strong winds. Your full forecast in half an hour. Its thursday 2nd july. Our top story. Schools in england will be told to stagger break times, Group Children into bubbles and focus on core subjects when they return to the classroom in september. The plans based on reducing contact, rather than social distancing will be set out by the education secretary Gavin Williamson. Our education correspondent dan johnson reports. Some children may be back in class, but for most, this is their 15th week of disrupted education, trying to learn at home or online. The impossible puzzle has been how to get them all safely back into school with social distancing in place. Spreading classes out needed extra space, and teachers we simply dont have, but the government committed itself to finding an answer. We are going to have to make changes as to how it currently operates. We have seen a relaxation of social distancing rules, and were going to see the return of full class sizes. So what can we expect come september . The government is set to announce that social distancing will be abandoned in Primary Schools and reduced to one metre where possible in secondaries. Whole year groups will be regarded as bubbles, with staggered start times to keep them apart. Some subjects may be suspended at first, to focus on catching up in core classes like english and maths. It is possible that could lead to some gcse pupils dropping optional subjects altogether. And fines will return for parents who dont make sure their children are back in school. We will get confirmation of the detail later this morning, but there are still questions to address. What about school buses . There is a suggestion face coverings may be required, but theyre not being recommended in school itself. How will shared spaces be cleaned between classes . And, with bubbles potentially including hundreds of children, how will schools cope with the further disruption caused by a single case . And all this to be considered on a day when most children in leicester stay at home once more, as schools lock down again because of the outbreak there. Danjohnson, dan johnson, bbc news. Our Political Correspondent iain watson is in westminster. Good morning. We are waiting for this announcement, arent we . But it doesnt change the fact lots of pa rents a re doesnt change the fact lots of parents are going to be concerned how safe their children are and the impact that could perhaps have if they are exposed to infection on their households with quarantining. Thats right, naga. There are already worries, year one pupils in england, only a third of them are going back to school according to the most recent statistics, even though nine out of ten schools would be willing to receive them, so there is wariness by parents. In leicester we re is wariness by parents. In leicester were all the schools are now closed, five schools showed positive cases, the government does have one big weapon in its armoury when kids are supposed to go back to school in september, and that is to impose fines on parents who dont send their children. But on this programme earlier you spoke to a head teacher in west sussex, michael ferri, and that suggestion was not well received. I will not be fining parents in any way, shape or form in september. Are you saying you will not do it . I will not be fining pa rents, not do it . I will not be fining parents, if they make the decision it is not safe or right for their child to come back we will work with pa rents, child to come back we will work with parents, as tinh mentioned, in partnership but i will not be fining them. Pretty clear that the head teacher will not be fining parents. Interestingly, the government sounded like they would take a softly softly approach, simon clarke and the local government minister, tried to emphasise the positive aspects of bringing children back to school. I think we would agree with the head and saying we dont want fines to be the first recourse but we are going to re instigate the normal expectation from september that children should be back in school and thats absolutely right and appropriate. Im sure the overwhelming majority of viewers would agree with that. Gavin williamson, the education secretary, will host the first Government Press Conference Since 23rd ofjune since regular press conferences were binned and i think thats going to be the beginning of the process of trying to persuade parents, downing street already asking parents who have concerns to put questions directly to the education secretary this afternoon. Iain watson, thanks very much. Pubs, cafes and restaurants in wales will be allowed to re open from 13thjuly thats a week on monday but only to serve customers in outside areas. It will also depend on coronavirus cases continuing to fall. Tomos morgan is in cardiff. Good morning. What we know is its a slightly different timeframe in wales than it is in england. Just explain how its going to work in wales. So at the moment on the 13th ofjuly, places like this pub in the north of cardiff will be able to reopen because they have an outdoor space here for customers. But as you can see with the weather not being that reliable, how viable will that really be . There is nobody at the moment no day in wales at the moment no day in wales at the moment for pubs and restaurants to open indoors. You are the landlord here. Tell us your thoughts on the announcement today. There is great there is a bit of movement and things are progressing and we are looking at being able to reopen. The outdoor space will not help us and im sure it will not help a lot of pubs across wales that dont have big outdoor spaces. If you have a little bit of space, we still have the two metre rule in place, you would probably get 10 15 people. The two metre rule in place, you would probably get 10 15 peoplem that viable for me to have staff taking the orders, preparing the drinks, cleaning up after and sanitising . I just dont drinks, cleaning up after and sanitising . Ijust dont think it will be viable for us. So you might stay as the shop you have converted to at the moment. We will do the shop and keep running take a ways and look at announcements on a reduction in the two metre rule. And look at announcements on a reduction in the twometre rule. And just lastly, if things stay as they are, what could be the repercussions for you here . Job losses. There has got to be. When the furlough scheme comes to an end, we cant keep paying people if we havent got the custom, simple as that. Thanks very much. Two metre rule still in place and outdoor space for the hospitality sector to open onjuly the 13th here. Tomos morgan, thank you very much. President trump has dropped his long standing objection to face coverings to curb the spread of coronavirus. He now says he is all for masks and that they make him look like the lone ranger. He made the remarks to fox news after a Top Republican called on him to wear a mask as an example. An 18 year old man has been charged with the murder of two sisters in the london park last month. Baber henry and Nicole Smallman who were a6 27 years old we re smallman who were a6 27 years old were found in wembley on during the seventh. Daniel hussein from blackheath in london will appear before westminster magistrates for both murders and possession of an offensive weapon. Smartphones and weak laws have helped create the perfect storm of addictive, round the clock gambling according to a new report into the british betting industry. The house of Lords Gambling Industry Committee is calling for tougher controls, including advertising bans. The government says it is committed to protecting people from the risks of gambling related harm. Campaigners say that they are contacted regularly by families who have lost loved ones because of a gambling addiction. Like all the others, a bright, happy young man aged 28. He lost £16,000 online injust bright, happy young man aged 28. He lost £16,000 online in just two days immediately before he died. And its a well known street company. The operators are constantly saying that they have cleaned up their act. The truth is they havent and the deaths are proving that. Those are the main stories this morning, 8 10am is the time. The weather and the sport coming up later on. Just for a moment, though, people love it when things go wrong on television. There is something even more glorious when its a very serious subject, as a lot of the business we are doing at the moment is and then something happens. Zoom, particularly for people in their homes. When children get involved. You will remember this one, Professor Robert kelly interrupted when he was talking about north korean affairs. That happened there. Yesterday doctor Claire Wenham turned up to talk about important matters again and her youngster took over. Talk about important matters again and her youngster took ovenm talk about important matters again and her youngster took over. It is a learning process so now we are moving to this new approach of these local lockdowns. It is part of the learning process to understand how this is happening. Quite honestly they should have happened a long time ago, in my opinion, but here we are in this situation, so how can we improve it for the inevitable lockdown which might come further down the road . We have looked at statistics to show the other hot spots of concern that might be ba rnsley spots of concern that might be barnsley and bradford, so how can we make sure they are getting the right data now so we dont have this problem now . What is your daughter called . She is called scarlett. Scarlett, i think it looks better on the lower shelf. And its a lovely unicorn. Its a lovely unicorn. 0k, so, obviously. Whats his name . Whats his name . My name is christian. His name is christian. Imjust christian. His name is christian. Im just deciding where money wants it to go. I thinkjust on that shelf is great, thank you. Im so sorry. This is the most informative interview ive done all day we are like scarlet, dont we . I love that she decided, the tables are turned, im going to ask the questions now. Someone else was in the room and a conversation was happening and she was taking part in the conversation, good on you. We are talking about schools today going back in england in september. You will be seeing staggered starts, no mixing between year groups and a focus on core subjects. Theyre just a few of things that children are expected to face when they return to school in england in september. The full details of the plan will be announced by the education secretary Gavin Williamson later today. There will be a special press Conference Today as well. Danjohnson is at a school in west sussex to see what staff and parents think. Interesting because there are two sides to this. Some parents want their children to be educated but it needs to be done safely. Absolutely and that has been the impossible puzzle of how to get kids back in the classroom and how to fill up schools again. This is the drama studio, the dance hall, here at this school and it hasnt seen anybody for the last three months because so many pupils have been learning at home. One suggestion that might be included in the details to be announced today is that perhaps some of those optional subjects like drama or dance may be paused for a bit, suspended so that kids can focus on the core subjects, english and, maths and science to help them catch up. There is even the possibility that these extra subjects may not happen at gcse level next year, that students may have to drop them altogether. And there are Big Questions about social distancing and how that will be reduced so that more children and be in schools. John maguire was filming ata in schools. John maguire was filming at a school in the west country yesterday. When these people return to school here in Weston Super Mare in september their number will swell from a0 up to 900. Clearly the social distancing rules in place now will need to change. But change has been a constant, of late, and staff are confident they can cope with more. Our strategy is that we are hoping for and anticipating and looking forward to having all of our children back with us in front of us in september. We are ready and geared up for the children to come back in. We know that we can manage and we know that we can navigate a way through because we have just done it. And where parents can decide whether or not to send children to school now, in the autumn, attendance will once again become compulsory. So anxious families will need to be persuaded. We have been making well over 600 phone calls every week to our families, to touch base and check that they are ok. And those relationships have now become strong and that is a positive from this experience. We will be leaning on those relationships to support them and their children. Them and their children coming back in to the academy. So what do parents think . On the health side of things, as long as there is guidance for the classes to be safe i would be happy to send them back. My daughter is already back two hours a week at secondary school and is finding that fine. Obviously they are all spaced apart. For children of different abilities and some are getting on with their work and some are not. My concern is going back in september that everyone will be at a different level and if they are considering putting people into a bubble, as i have heard, i dont know how that will affect how everyone works. I would like to know whether or not we can still have a pe curriculum, creative curriculum and it notjust be monday to friday of core which i know is valuable but the students opinion matters and i would like. The day, is it going to be a full time, monday to friday, will they be staggering start and finish times . Just getting a benchmark of where the kids are at, knowing that they have sufficient time to put the content in for the gcses between now and may would be good, providing exams are not going to be pushed back. They would be the biggest things, just to see the kids are still on track. The usual september concerns about school uniform, pe kit or new subjects will take a back seat. The priorities will be safety, reassurance and hopefully a guarantee that pupils will be able to catch up. The back to school check list will be like never before. John maguire, bbc news, Weston Super Mare. Yes, lots of Big Questions. I may be ina dance yes, lots of Big Questions. I may be in a dance hall and you have got accustomed to some irish dancing this time of day but you will not get that from me. I have some experts here who can do it far better than i can. Now, grace and megan is the Dance Teacher here at this school. We are talking about these optional subjects. Megan, this school. We are talking about these optionalsubjects. Megan, if they were paused what sort of impact would that have . Would it let you focus on the core subjects . It would have a massive impact on engagement with our students coming into school. They learn so many things through the arts and i think the a rts through the arts and i think the arts are the key to coming out of lockdown and the reason being it helps with students Mental Health, their overall well being, it helps us to produce well rounded individuals because they build so many skills through dance, drama and the arts. Confidence, self esteem, leadership skills, it goes on and on. These are skills that they tra nsfer on. These are skills that they transfer into other subjects and into Lifelong Learning, and they become excellent members of society. Without the arts and pausing these subjects we are looking at having a massive impact and a detrimental effect on their Lifelong Learning and their lifelong opportunities. 0k, would you endorse that, grace . You are at a level now so you have already made this option now, this is your subject now. If you hadnt had that option at gcse what impact would that have had on you . L massive impact. Ifeel like would that have had on you . L massive impact. I feel like the arts give you a chance to have so much Self Expression and so much self growth. For so many students, if you dont have the opportunity at school they might not have the privilege of doing it outside of school so you will create a greater divide in society of people who are way more creative because they have had the opportunity and those who havent. I think that would really, really affect society as a whole because people wont be creative and society wouldnt be what it is now. You have just started getting back into school as a sixth former. How has that been and what you think about more people coming back in september . More people coming back would be great. I love my time at school and having the opportunity to be back in the classroom has helped so much. I feel like ive learned so much more in the short three weeks ive been back compared to the ia weeks we have been off and having to do it at home. I think its been amazing and people should have that opportunity. How has the home working been for you . Opportunity. How has the home working been for you . M opportunity. How has the homeworking been for you . It has beena homeworking been for you . It has been a challenge, in something completely new and something i havent experienced before. In back to school has been great for me and some of my mates as well. Grace mentioned, Mental Health, it is good to get out, being indoors for so long it really doesnt reflect well on us, we need to get out there and do what we do best. Do you think these practical subjects help with that . 100 , like these practical subjects help with that . 10096, like i said, it is a massive chance to explore who you are as a person, not everyone is an english, maths or science person, which isnt bad, and we really need to focus on these things now. We are going to need people to be creative and really make the best of the situation. Ok, thank you all, good to talk to you and thank you for coming in early this morning. There are coming in early this morning. There a re lots of coming in early this morning. There are lots of questions about the detail of this and how we will get schools back full again come september. The education secretary is due to give some detail later today. Whether he can give all the a nswe rs we today. Whether he can give all the answers we will have to see. We knew that coronavirus would define a new generation and certainly for the stu d e nts generation and certainly for the students it is going to have a massive impact. The aim is to get every child back in the school by september, at least in england. Thats the aim. Thanks very much. And as dan said we will find out later from Gavin Williamson at the press co nfe re nce. Later from Gavin Williamson at the press conference. Lets listen in a bit more, it was interesting hearing from those a level students about the impact it is having on them. The conservative mp robert halfon, who is chair of the Education Select Committee joins us now. Some of the most important people in this, we werejust some of the most important people in this, we were just speaking to those a level dance students, and possibly those are some of the subjects that will not be able to continue. It is a really worrying time for those students, isnt it . It is. We need to get our children, pupils and stu d e nts to get our children, pupils and Students Learning again. The lockdown has been nothing short of a national disaster. We know that Something Like over 2 million children have not been doing any homework at all and over a million have had very little contact with their teachers. This is according to academic studies. We face an epidemic of potential educational poverty, a lost generation, so crisis. We now know there is a huge Digital Divide with 700,000 children according to the childrens commissioner, not having access to proper computers at home. So we have to get the children back into schools. I welcome what the government is doing. And i thank all the teachers and support staff, people often forget the support staff, for the work they are doing to try and make it possible. The one thing everyone seems to agree on is that we want to get children back to school but do you agree with this timetable that in england september all children back in school . Or do you think that you should be happening now . I would like to get children back as soon as possible because for one reason or another that hasnt been possible, although at least children of critical workers and schools have been open to Vulnerable Children over the past few months. But not enough have been going to school. And what is done is done. The important thing is that children will be back by september and we need to do all we can to help the schools, to have the parents, to help the teachers and support staff to make it a reality. We have to get our kids back into school by september. They will have lost a0 of the school year. We have been speaking to head teachers this morning and one of them told us categorically that under no circumstances will he be issuing fines to parents who choose not to send their children to school in september. What do you think . Head teachers are autonomous for the most pa rt teachers are autonomous for the most part and will be making these decisions. I prefer a cautious and deliberative approach. What id like to happen is there to be a proper record of children who are not in school and for the schools and local authorities potentially to be contacting the parents, whether by visitation or by phone to try and get the children back into school. I think that would be a cautious and deliberative approach, and the right one and fines should only be used in the last resort as we come out of the last resort as we come out of the worst of the coronavirus. Can i ask you about the Testing Process . And the tracing process. Right at the heart of this, if there are problems in a school, fast forward to september, and if, as there are undoubtedly going to be at some point some issues in some schools, pa rt point some issues in some schools, part of the equation that has to be in place is an absolute confidence in the testing system that could maybe be brought in very quickly into a very specific place. How confident are you that that can be adapted to this School Scenario . M is worth remembering that the world health organization, 22 eu countries, and the chief medical officer have said that the risk to children is minimal, thank goodness, in schools. But we have had a letter from the Health Secretary to our select committee and he has assured my committee that there is priority testing and tracing for teachers and support staff, that they have access to Public Health england at the local Resilience Forum is if there is an outbreak, who will advise the schools what to do. But the key thing is we are telling our parents and children it is ok to go to primark 0k and children it is ok to go to primark ok for the pubs to open, 0k to go to supermarkets. We have to have the same policy towards schools. Of course there is a risk of the coronavirus but there is also a risk to millions of childrens continuing not learning and not having access to education and suffering, as i say, an epidemic of educational poverty. And it may be that not all schools can open. It may be that there are problems in certain places. But just may be that there are problems in certain places. Butjust because all the schools cant open, or because there is a problem somewhere, doesnt mean we shouldnt open schools anywhere and we should try and do that as much as possible. My view is that what sir nicholas winton, the man who brought the kindergarten children to the uk in the second world war, he said if it is not impossible there must be a way to do it. As a country we have to weigh up the minimal risks of children getting the coronavirus as to the awful risks to their Mental Health, safeguarding and education if they are not back in schools sooner rather than later. Im a bit confused now because at the beginning of the interview use of the timetable for september was right. Judging from what you have just said you seem to be suggesting we should be opening them now. What isaid we should be opening them now. What i said was i wanted ideally children to go back as soon as possible if there was a clear timetable that looks like its going to happen today that they will be back in september, that is a good thing because i dont think we can delay further. I hope with the billion pound capture programme government has promised schools there will be summer camps to help students catch up. Catch up programme. We have to get our kids back sooner rather than later and i hope that is september. Robert halfon, thank you very much. Chair of the Education Select Committee. Theyve been the undisputed heroes of the last three months, but theyve been keeping us safe for much longer than that. Now our frontline emergency workers including doctors and paramedics could be honoured with a permanent monument in central london. Daniela relph has the details. They are statues that are admired. World leaders who changed so much. War heroes whose bravery is marked. Campaigners who brought significant shifts politically and footballers who altered the face of the game. Add to that list jamaican nurse, mary seacole. In 2016 she became the first named black woman to be remembered this way, outside st thomass hospital in london. She cared for british soldiers during the crimean war. Many now view her as an example of how to get a statue right. Any future plans or developments of memorials in london or any major city needs to have three considerations. How it engages with the public, how it tells the whole story of that monument and it has to be inclusive. And to me, if you do not have those three key criteria then the danger is we will have memorials and statues that represent the past and do not reflect the future of britain. This model of a planned statue could not be more timely. The memorial to Emergency Service workers called a 999 cenotaph. There will be a police officer, a firefighter, a coastguard, a search and rescue worker with their dog, a paramedic, and added in recent weeks, a doctor or a nurse with personal protective equipment. Two of the figures are women, one an asian paramedic and the other a black doctor or nurse. We are aiming for accuracy because it is a historical marker, a milestone that one is putting down which people will look at in 200 years time and say, oh, yes, that was accurate for that particular period. Statues are largely paid for by private donations and for the Emergency Services memorial, lockdown meant that all the fundraising plans had to be put on hold. There is now a renewed push to raise the £3 million needed to get the statue built. That monument will be a National Symbol of the sacrifice, heroism and remembrance of the millions of men and women whove served and the more than 7,000 Emergency Services personnel who have tragically lost their lives in the line of duty to keep us all safe. The aim is for the new statue to find its place among some the countrys most loved monuments where people come to laugh, to reflect or to remember. If all the money is raised there will be a national Emergency Services memorial up by 2023. Daniela relph, bbc news. It is almost 8 30am. Now lets get the weather with matt. It has been awhile since we have seen you. Good morning. Thats a lovely rainbow. Yes, it is. A few showers around, good morning to you all. This is the radar chart with the heaviest rain. Still across parts of Northern England. It has been wet all morning across east yorkshire, horrible conditions on the roads here at the moment. The rain will start to ease gradually, just south one or two showers, a few further north, but most showers, a few further north, but m ost pla ces showers, a few further north, but most places dry. The cloud stays in place in Northern England but the rain starts to shift further southwards and breaks up and then form is heavy and thundery showers. Parts of the midlands, east anglia, south east, some sunshine around at times this afternoon but could get caught out by one or two downpours, the odd rumble of thunder and a flash of lightning, turning dry and bright into parts of wales and South West England to finish the day. They will be the odd shower in the grampians in county down and shetland. Many other parts of scotla nd shetland. Many other parts of scotland and Northern Ireland staying dry, eastern scotland and much of Northern England, rather cool for the stage in earlyjuly, particularly on the pennines and east coast. Where you see the showers and thunderstorms in the south and east, they will clear this evening, most will become dry for a time but more rain arrives out of the atlantic later on, particularly for Northern Ireland and western scotland. It does mean not as cool a night to come tonight across scotla nd night to come tonight across scotland in the most places in double figures, if not the teens, as we start tomorrow morning. But for tomorrow morning at the start of the day has a north south split, scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England, outbreaks of rain at times. Further south, Northern England, outbreaks of rain at times. Furthersouth, dry Northern England, outbreaks of rain at times. Further south, dry and bright, some sunshine now and again, some of the south and east will stay dry all day long at the same in shetland. The rain will be relentless in parts of western scotla nd relentless in parts of western scotland and then it will become that way for southern parts of cumbria into snowdonia as well where it will rain for a good 2a 36 hours in one or two spots. Get a bit of sunshine, temperatures up into the teens, may be the low 20s, overall a fairly cloudy end on friday. Into the weekend it is all a case of areas of low pressure and weather fronts pushing across. We will see increasingly windy conditions developing through the weekend. On saturday, the brightest weather to begin with across northern scotland by the brighter weather pushing southwards, abbas of rennes, southern scotland, Northern Ireland, Northern England, and working southwards across england and wales, should see a bit of sunshine before saturdays through and then it should bea saturdays through and then it should be a bit milder, although that will be a bit milder, although that will be tempered by the strength of the wind. The winds will get Even Stronger as we go into sunday. Widespread gales developing on sunday. The worst of the rainfall will be in the morning, brighter conditions with some showers into the afternoon. Certainly a big change around from what we saw this time last week. But at least it will be those dry and brighter ones. Thanks, enjoy the rest of your day. Hello, this is breakfast, with Naga Munchetty and charlie stayt. It is 8 32. Perhaps after that forecast you are thinking you are ready for your summer break. The government have been talking about air bridges and it is a worrying time for travel agents. They are trying to find out more information. Nina is in blackpool at a travel agents. There are so many questions right now about just what the situation is. So many questions and, actually, a slight shift this morning. We understand there will be a move away from those air bridges, reciprocal agreements between two countries that you can travel to and from without quarantining. A list of nations which will be made exempt from quarantining when you return to the uk. What is interesting as it could include countries like greece, australia, new zealand, where you may be ok getting back but you may have problems getting in from the uk. We are still waiting to see who could be on that list. Understandably, so many questions from you, not just understandably, so many questions from you, notjust today but the last few weeks. Luckily we have experts in this field, a very good morning to you. Jess, the big one we are getting from a lot of people, just getting my pole out so we can be safe, where can i go right now . That is quite simple answer, isnt it . It is. The fcc that is quite simple answer, isnt it . It is. The fco advise means we cant travel anywhere right now. Nothing has changed . No, we are waiting for clarity from the government. If you book today to go away this weekend, you are not insured . Unfortunately not. If your holiday is cancelled you are not insured if something goes wrong . Know, if you book today, the insurance wont cover you if it is nonessential. And phil, we have been asked if and when this changes, how will that infect insurance . We need to be clear there are two sides to this story. If you book an atoll protected holiday with a travel agent and the following advice changes to say you cant travel, its not safe to travel, you will be cove red, its not safe to travel, you will be covered, your money is refunded. If you book independently and the foreign advice changes, the flights are still going and you wont be cove red, are still going and you wont be covered, you cant claim on your insurance either. If you are away and you become sick, its important to clarify that with your insurance company, to check that policy is valid if you are sick abroad. We need to be certain we are covered and also if we get poorly whilst we are away and if the fco advice changes whilst you are away. We also had a question this morning from dan. He wants to know, if im already on holiday in the fco advice changes so that when i get home i will need to quarantine, when i get away with it because i booked my holiday before the point where it changed . In terms of if the advice changes while you are on holiday, we are waiting on clarity from the government. We dont know if the air bridges or the list of destinations change whilst you are on holiday, we have to wait from clarification from the government. Is clear as it can be at the moment. It is a very confusing picture. Quite rightly, many of you had been in touch this morning asking why we are talking about holidays. There is a Global Pandemic happening, some people have lost all of their income and it is a good point but this isntjust about people sitting on beaches. There are layers upon layers of the economy that depend on travel and tourism. We had yesterday, jobs going at airbus where they make wings for planes. Two airports that easyjet are getting out of. And also upper crust because they make the semi at those airports. We are waiting for clarity from the government which could come today or hopefully tomorrow. Nina, thank you very much. We can hear from tomorrow. Nina, thank you very much. We can hearfrom one of tomorrow. Nina, thank you very much. We can hear from one of the countries waiting to welcome tourists. Julia Farrugia Portelli is the minister of tourism for malta. Thank you forjoining us. Tell me, how do you feel . Lets start first of all, what news do you know when it comes to air bridges and the uk, what have you been told, what has been hinted at . Basically, we are very much engaged with the British Government. We look so forward to seeing multis name on the list later today, the latest tomorrow morning. You are expecting an announcement within 2a hours and expecting malta to be on the list. How do you think people of malta will feel the uks infection rate of coronavirus is far higher than that of maltas . We are very prepared as a country. The british market is the strongest market that we have had since our early tourism days in the 19505. There are strong ties between the two countries. Malta i5 19505. There are strong ties between the two countries. Malta is very much prepared. We are by far the safest mediterranean country. We had only nine people who died in the past five months. Mo5t only nine people who died in the past five months. Most of these case5 past five months. Most of these cases were elderly people who already experienced health complications. But we are prepared asa complications. But we are prepared a5 a country to welcome british tourists in the coming weeks. How can you be prepared when britain or the uk has the worst level of infection rate in europe . We are have the International Network in our airport. We have designed a mechanism at the airport to test each and every pa55enger, their temperature. But then, of course, we understand that also as a country, we have a strong base when it comes to our health care system. The general secretary has applauded malta and described the way that we handled the pandemic a5 malta and described the way that we handled the pandemic as the best country in the world for handling this situation. What we as a country are doing is taking all the precautions, precautions are a place at hotels, airport5 precautions, precautions are a place at hotels, airports and the many attractions that we have in malta are all geared up. We have safety protocols in place, hotel5, restau ra nts protocols in place, hotel5, restaurants etc are covid tested. That means each and every traveller has peace of mind that each and every corner of our country is practically 5afe. Every corner of our country is practically safe. Julia cumming talked about some of the measures you are going to bring in. When british touri5ts, if they are allowed to travel, when they arrive in malta where you say they have a Temperature Check as they come in. So they go to a hotel and, a5 Temperature Check as they come in. So they go to a hotel and, as you well know, the Temperature Check isnt definitive, its a moment in time. It is possible that someone could arrive in malta, past the Temperature Check, check into their hotel and then fall ill in the hotel and be tested positive. What would happen in that hotel to all the other guests and the staff if that we re other guests and the staff if that were to happen . If that were to happen, and its hypothetical, but we have the right protocols, the right mechanisms in place. So, basically, we have a protocol that states that each and every hotel which experienced this kind of situation, they will isolate that tourist until the medical team comes into place and then we have fully fledged Health System where all the tourists would be cared for in an appropriate manner. Along with that period before . Paddon . Along with that period be for . Basically we are saying each and hotel has a direct line, a direct link to our Health Authorities and basically, that mechanism will go straight in action after the team will start taking over and isolate that particular tourist. But of course we are prepared. We have good ties with the British Government and these statistics are also showing us that we have a spike in the past two weeks. I got a brief yesterday, it shows the government agents in the uk are telling us practically we have already reached the same levels of bookings with the british tourists as we had last year. So really and truly, we are all excited to welcome the british tourist in our country. Julia Farrugia Portelli, thank you for talking to us this morning. Im sure a lot of british tourists go to malta normal circumstances. Very nice talking to you this morning. Julia Farrugia Portelli, minister for tourism you this morning. Julia Farrugia Portelli, ministerfor tourism in malta. We are going to talk about Wigan Athletic now. There is a football clu b athletic now. There is a Football Club that had a roller coaster of fortu nes club that had a roller coaster of fortunes over the years. Mike is there this morning, how are you enjoying the weather . Lovely, cold and wet, feels like the middle of the football season in the winter the outlook is pretty gloomy for wigan at the moment. The administrators get cracking on the work today to try and find the money to save the club. They told one show earlier they will make sure the team can still play the last six games of the season. They say without that there is no future but it is the longer term future of the club they are worried about. One of the administers said there talking to ten people via e mail who have expressed an interest. Some optimism for wigan this morning. They are the first club to go into Administration Since the coronavirus. We were warned this would happen because it is clubs being played behind closed doors when they rely on money coming through the gates to raise their revenue each week. This is such a contrast to the heady days of wigan. They have been a fairy tale club over the years. In 2013, they lifted the fa cup, thanks to all the investment and work from the previous owner dave whelan. We can now talk to the captain of the wigan tea m now talk to the captain of the wigan team that day they won the cup beating Manchester City. Msn, thank you forjoining us. What a shock it must have been for you yesterday. It had been a really good 2020 so far for wigan, top of the table and with the new owners taking over a month ago . It tech came as a shock. I got the text through yesterday. Everything was positive. It has come out of the blue that wigan have gone into administration, worrying times. A lot of fans are saying is unfair, there is a petition going to doctor clu b there is a petition going to doctor club 12 points. They were pretty safe from relegation, now they are right at the bottom. Dock the club. It is not the clubs felt they have to play behind closed doors in this coronavirus . I hope the foot ball this coronavirus . I hope the Football League is a bit more lenient on this side of it. Every business is struggling at the minute. Unfortunately, wigan are the first of the casualties. The timing of the things seems a bit strange to me. Ithink of the things seems a bit strange to me. I think wigan will be a better clu b me. I think wigan will be a better club being sold as they are in the championship, the team is going well, everything is going on the right direction. Going into administration at this time is strange for me, worrying times. Take us back to 2013, i suppose you envisage this would happen all these yea rs envisage this would happen all these years later. And sometimes the underdog has their day . Wigan winning the fa cup was a fantastic day. It goes to show the work dave whelan put into the club in the town asa whelan put into the club in the town as a whole, to keep wigan in a sta ble as a whole, to keep wigan in a stable condition. It is a club that needs to be saved. My thoughts at the moment are going towards the staff that work at the club. The players tend to be all right but it is worrying and stressful times for the Staff Members who work behind the scenes and it will be very stressful times. I have similar situation . Inaudible the situation they are in now. Emerson boyce, thank you for your time, great to speak to you. Keep safe and well. Emerson boyce who was the captain when wigan famously won the captain when wigan famously won the fa cup in 2013. Lots more to come on this story im sure in the coming days. Crucial days for the administrators and those negotiations with potential investors. We had dave whelan, the man behind me, has expressed an interest in at least helping in some way. We will see how that develops. A couple of other stories before i go. Tonight liverpool will play for the First Time Since they became champions, premier League Champions after 30 yea rs of champions, premier League Champions after 30 years of waiting. They travel to Manchester City, ironically the team they have beaten to the title. The game would have been so much more if Manchester City hadnt dropped points to chelsea last week. With liverpool already champions, little riding on it but it should be fascinating. Jurgen klopp called on the fans to be patient and celebrate the title when safe to do so. Also, some sad news this morning. West Indies Cricket legend sir Everton Weekes has died at the age of 95. Known as one of the three w5, the only man to make centuries in five consecutive test innings. West Indies Cricket have described him as an icon, whilst english cricket has said he was a true great of the game. Rather apt that england play the west indies in the first test series of the summer at southampton next week. A chance to commemorate the great Everton Weekes and pay respects for fans watching at home. At wigan, a big few days ahead they have to concentrate, the team, on playing another in form team, brentford, on saturday. Mike, thank you. From the financial problems of football, we look at the Music Industry now. Hit hard by covid 19. Big names made their names on small stages but it is feared they may not reopen. Calls for the government to step in has been supported by Paul Mccartney, coldplay and annie lennox. One venue under threat is the ferret. Ed sheeran performed there. Slowly sinking, wasting slowly sinking, wasting crumbling like pastry crumbling like pastry the worst things in life come free . Upandcoming the worst things in life come free . Up and coming bands have a chance. They get to build their stagecraft. And quite often they move on to bigger things, as we have seen in the last few years. This is a step up the last few years. This is a step up from that. As you can see, there really wouldnt be a room, even with one metre spacing for many more than a dozen audience members and with a guideline of three metres from the edge of the stage, that would put the front row of the audience almost at the back of the room. Ok, sing this with me . They say shes in the class a team, stuck in her daydream been this way since 18. We arejoined by been this way since 18. We are joined by a promoter for the ferret and also mark from the music trust. Shall we begin with the ferret, what has been going on with it now . Its had a major impact with covid. Bookings have had to be cancelled or rescheduled which has had a real impact across the Music Industry as a whole. We saw pictures of ed sheeran performing. You have embraced new performers. What are you saying to the ones that were booked or ones that were hoping to get a moment on the stage . They must be feeling pretty desperate . Yes, i would say so. I think the message really is if we can hold on and see this through for the next couple of months, we will come back stronger in 2021. The diary is looking very full not just for the in 2021. The diary is looking very full notjust for the ferret in 2021. The diary is looking very full not just for the ferret and grassroots venues but across the country. Venues are working hard and 2021 should be a bumper year if we can hold on. That is why we are asking the government to step in and see if we can maintain this for the next couple of months. Mark david, good morning. Co owner of the Tunbridge Wells for a man from the Music Venue Trust. This is a really difficult time for music venues. What is it you are seeking by way of help . Yes, it is, indeed. What we needis help . Yes, it is, indeed. What we need is urgent Government Action to stabilise the sector. They took some great action generally in the economy at the beginning of this crisis that music venues are now not able to open while other bits of the industry are opening up. We are asking for a package for grassroot music venues to get them through to the point where they can reopen. This is a very inventive sector. We will be able to recover if we get the Government Support right now and if they do some tax incentives, things like that. Its such an important moment for the government, really. You talk about that figure, but in practice, who is the money going to, in terms of who with the government pay this money to . It salaries . It breaks down into rent, is one of the biggest issues. 93 of these venues are actually tenants so they dont own their own building. Do you then have all the people that work there. You have the maintenance cost, the insurance cost, even though they are closed, they need to be kept clean to reopen. To put it into perspective, that probably sounds like a lot of money but it really isnt in the global scheme of things. It is less than the amount of money they paid in vat last year. That particular sector, let alone the broader industry, which is worth £5 billion a year to the economy and this is where all the talent and makes that money comes from. Dan, talk to me about how the ferret will look . I wasjust talk to me about how the ferret will look . I was just looking at a survey, we carried out the survey, 36 of fans would like music to return injuly, 36 of fans would like music to return in july, more 36 of fans would like music to return injuly, more in september. The ferret, it didnt look massive andi the ferret, it didnt look massive and i wonder if their social distancing rules that are in place now, the measures have to be in place when you open, how would it look like, how practical is it . As pa rt look like, how practical is it . As part of the Music Venue Trust, we had some look at the guidelines. Venue diagrams to analyse. After all this, the vast majority, its not just the ferret, the vast majority of music venues wont be able to open. Operators of live music venues, taking in account the same physical distancing and staffing, 010 physical distancing and staffing, 0 10 customers per venue which is unacceptable. This isnt just grassroots venues that are struggling. A vast array of uk venues, including cardiff, leeds, birmingham, all strong venues which would struggle to open at the same capacity. Its really about needing the government to step in and finance the revival. As mark said, the uk Music Industry is worth about £a. 5 billion to the economy each year which is vital. It means swift and Decisive Action needs to be taken under clear Financial Support package, as mentioned before. We wish you well. Thank you both for your time wish you well. Thank you both for yourtime and wish you well. Thank you both for your time and for outlining the problems facing the industry right now. One of the 1500 artists who signed an open letter calling for help as the singer songwriter kt tu nstall help as the singer songwriter kt tunstall who joins us help as the singer songwriter kt tu nstall who joins us now help as the singer songwriter kt tunstall who joins us now from los angeles. Good morning, or good afternoon its ten to one in the morning here that is a perfect time, isnt it . Normally i have just finished a gig but not at the moment. You must be missing it, mustnt you . I do miss it. And i think like everyone else, its missing the connection with other people, seeing other peoples faces. I was listening to what mark and dan we re i was listening to what mark and dan were saying and just to share with everyone, the uk is the second biggest per capita audience for live music ticket sales in the world. So we have to take on board here that the British Public love going to see live music, its a big part of our culture. Good morning. Can you clarify, the situation in california was there was a loosening of lough dan, wasnt there, and some things we dan, wasnt there, and some things we open . That has changed again now. Did it include any form of live music, could anyone perform at all . No. There no large gatherings whatsoever. I think all of us musicians were very aware when they started that we were going to be last in the queue for this stuff to come back. Ive heard many people in the industry, musicians and crew and promoters are like talking about this talking about this being an extinction level event. Im an ambassador on the Music Venue Trust and 90 of grassroot venues cannot stay afloat with social distancing, they will go bust. What happens now . With this letter you have been part of, with all these artists, what exactly a re of, with all these artists, what exactly are you asking for, in terms of things that will make a difference . Because the pandemic hasnt gone away and the virus isnt going away and the idea they should socially distance . You asked for money and full support but what did you say, an extinction level event . For live music. So what happens with this money . What is needed is to keep these venues afloat, which are often struggling anyway because of business taxes, because of, as we said, it is rental, people not actually owning these venues. They are not running at a profit, these are not running at a profit, these area labourof are not running at a profit, these are a labour of love for many of people running these venues. But what we need to look at is how important live music is to us, culturally, as the uk. And, you know, our sector doesnt want to have to ask for help but we are looking at the Government Supporting sport. We are asking for the same compassion from them to keep pace afloat is an important part of britains well being and its economy. Im just britains well being and its economy. Imjust trying britains well being and its economy. Im just trying to think, its a bleak picture you are painting but one of the things that has happened is there is a kind of connection now. We are on zoom now. Are you finding new connections are being made . Im trying to look for a small upside. Oh, yeah. Has there been any of that for you personally or the Music Industry . Its been a bit of a revelation for me because im always on the road and travelling constantly and doing gigs andi travelling constantly and doing gigs and i have actually found i am more in touch with my fans during this than i have ever been. I think the other problem we have with the music is streaming needs to get sorted out because its not paying artists properly, at all. I think what we are realising is music has become first, people got used to it being almost free. Secondly, its become so vast and saturated that people are looking for meaning in this time of difficulty. That is what music does, its very healing and connecting. My apologies for interrupting, its lovely to talk to you this morning. Im impressed by the pile of books youve never read which arejust behind the pile of books youve never read which are just behind you there. Cheek i will have a word with him, dont you worry we wish you well, thank you very much. Thanks a lot. Thanks for staying up for us. Ten to one, they are used to it we are back at 6am tomorrow night and early, see you then, have a nice day. Good morning. This is bbc news with the latest headlines full time school for all children in september the governments to unveil details later for more than 8 million pupils in england. In leicester, a local lockdown to deal with a surge in coronavirus cases will see schools close today to all but children of key workers. China demands that britain immediately stop interfering