Transcripts For BBCNEWS Breakfast 20200619

Just a short term fix or a long term trend . Its back to the dayjob, for marcus rashford. He returns to the pitch for Manchester United, in the premier league tonight, at the end of a week, in which his campaigning forced a government u turn. A cloudy and dont start but sunshine around this weekend. Your full fore ca st sunshine around this weekend. Your full forecast later on breakfast. Its friday the 19th ofjune. Our top story primary and secondary schools in england are to get a £1 billion boost to help children catch up on months of lessons that were missed during lockdown. The government pledged that a third of that cash will go towards a special tutoring programme for pupils from the poorest homes. Critics say the plans lack detail and that nursery pupils and some over 16s have been left out. Dan johnson reports. Extra maps delivered on line to help kids catch up. Mathematics. It is really happening at this Primary School but now many more pupils will get this one on one support. School but now many more pupils will get this oneonone support. You dont know when to put your hand up and say i know the answer. Because it is one to one, you do not have to be scared of saying what the answer is. At times like this, during the pandemic, you can still learn a lot of stuff and an you can keep up. So you are hoping to get better at mathematics . Yes. And you do not have to worry about people thinking why is he asking that question . Hundreds of billions targeted at those falling behind. It is run by a charity using volunteer tutors. You cannot completely take the place of traditional teacher but we have seen promising start from the tutoring we are offering with pupils saying they are offering with pupils saying they are re engaging with their learning and replicating what they might get in the classroom and giving them individual support with they can ask questions. Most children still have not made it back to school after three months of disruption so what about summer . Will that be more time they spent at home . And then september, what is going to look like and you get more children back into these buildings. Will there ever be an assembly again in a hall like this. Teachers now have money and some freedom in spending it to try and answer those questions and to work out how to get every child back up to speed. You have to be realistic and think that they have bigger gaps in their learning but also how can we plug those gaps if those children, say for example, can only come back 15 at a time. I think there is a place for tutoring to help and support us. But there is of the come about exactly who gets this, how often and for how long. This funding is for one year and thus not cover preschool or post 16 education. It has been widely welcomed but with warnings it may not be enough. Dan johnson, bbc news. Our Political Correspondent nick eardley in in westminster. The education secretary will be talking to us later. But what we need is detail . What we know so far is £350 million is going to be for the most disadvantaged kids to get tuition. The other £650 million will be for head teachers to apply for for either one on one or Group Tuition in the next Academic Year. There have been some concerns about the fact that it does not cover kids in early years nor children who are 1618 in early years nor children who are 16 18 and what is on offer for them . It is also about whether this is about money. There will be some questions, given the size of the challenge and real concerns that some children are falling behind, whether this money is enough. I suppose the biggest question of all is how this is all going to happen and how youre going to get children back to school in england when the new year starts in september. Still huge questions over that. The Prime Minister sang again this morning he will do everything again to get children back in september but many of the challenges are still going to be there, tory mps are still knocking on his door saying you need to reduce to a one metre rule, like they have done in Northern Ireland, to make sure you get more children into classrooms. I should point out, this money is for england. It will be money for scotland, wales and Northern Ireland as well, slightly different approaches around the uk to how you tackle this massive issue of making sure children do not hold behind. Say, we will bring it all up later with the minister. Some children in Northern Ireland could be back in school before the end of august, and theyll only have to keep one metre apart. Can you explain it for us . Northern ireland is, as you say, the first of the uks nations to make a significant change to that two metre social distancing rule. Whenever schools return here, which will be on the 24th of august, the requirement for pupils will be one metre. For adults and teachers, it will be two metres. They made that decision in a meeting yesterday. They say it will enable most schools to bring back all peoples on a full time basis instead of perhaps a couple of days a week to start with. Teacher unions though are sceptical and say schools will not have the space to do that and education will be farfrom normal come space to do that and education will be far from normal come august and they are looking for more clarity. That was part of a range of measures the storm want executive have announced. Churches allowed to hold services, headdresses and barbarous opening on the sixth ofjuly. Stormont. Labours heavy loss in the last general election the worst since 1935 was the result of a toxic culture, organisational failures and the leadership ofjeremy corbyn. Thats according to a new report by the Labour Together group which includes different wings of the party. Iain watson reports. Thank you very much. Jeremy corbyn leadership, brexit and that he not seem credible, some of the reasons labour lost according to a new report. The Labour Together, including the parties, leader ed miliband and the shadow minister lucy powell have spent nearly six months analysing the reason for the defeat. Some of it will make grim reading for labour supporters. They say mps and activists have told the labour strategy was in in inadequate and factionalism affected the partys inadequate and factionalism affected the pa rtys performance. Inadequate and factionalism affected the partys performance. But that is not the really bad news. The reports asa not the really bad news. The reports as a newly doubled not in itself improve their fortune. Traditional voters have been drifting away so by 2019, it was easier for the conservatives to pick off some seeds labour had held since the war and a further 58 constituencies are vulnerable to small conservative advance. The report declares labour has an electoral mountain to climb and it contains a stuck warning for sir keir starmer, unless he makes fundamental changes, labour could have further to fall. Iain watson, bbc news. Australia is under a serious and ongoing cyber attack by another country, thats according to its Prime Minister, Scott Morrison. He declined to say which country might be responsible but said that all levels of government had been targeted. Our sydney correspondent Shaimaa Khalil can tell us more. Lovely to see you but worrying news and lots of speculation about which country or who is behind this and what data has been accessed. Good morning. Yes, ithink what data has been accessed. Good morning. Yes, i think the Prime Minister was really clear about the scale and the nature saying all levels of government, Political Health educational organisations have been targeted by this sophisticated state cyber actor and he said this was effectively a state sponsored operation because of the scale of it, the nature of the targeting and also because not many countries are capable of such operations. It was not clear is why Scott Morrison chose this moment to make this announcement. The attacks have been going on for a few months. He made a similar announcement last year. And he refused to name names. He did not mention the word china but he was asked about china and he refused to reply. We know the relationship between canberra and beijing has been quite tense in the past few months since australia asked for an investigation into the coronavirus. Ageing sense of an as imposed tariffs on australian products and he would not name names but we do know that its a very powerful trading partner and australia have had tense relationships for quite some time 110w. Relationships for quite some time now. Thank you for taking us through that. A Police Officer has been shot dead during a routine traffic stop in new zealand. Another officer was seriously injured during the incident in auckland. The shooter fled the scene in a vehicle. Local media is reporting that two men have since been arrested. People of south Asian Heritage are more likely to die from coronavirus after being admitted to hospital in the uk, according to a major new study. Data from 260 hospitals across england, wales and scotland showed that patients with south asian backgrounds were 20 more likely to die than white patients. The research, published in the lancet medicaljournal, suggests that high levels of diabetes are partly to blame. One of the things we have officially been encouraged to do is to get on oui been encouraged to do is to get on our bikes more. Cycling is big business right now. Cycling shops have been booming. Ben is on a cycle superhighway in london, with all the Safety Measures in place and luminous tops stop he will be seen and also he is told or so, you are off your bike this morning. We have come inside because it is absolutely not cycling whether this morning. Carol will tell us about all that later. Good morning. Were talking about cycling because sales are booming for all sorts of things, bikes, bicycle equipment and that is because many of us are avoiding public transport in the wake of coronavirus stop so much so it means that in many cities you cannot get hold of a bike. New figures monitor just the market for cycling will be worth £1 billion over the next two yea rs. Worth £1 billion over the next two years. A huge increase. What are we buying . Mountain bikes, commuter bikes, hybrid bikes to get us to the office or whatever you work but sales of a bike are up by 88 . They give you a bit of a burst because you plug them in beforehand. To make it happen and make it safe, councils have been encouraged to spend some of the money from Central Government on things improving cycle lanes or making it easy for people to get around the city. Is it all that easy . We speak to a transport research now. Rachel, the whole idea of this is we are on two wheels and not on for. Good news for the environment and for our health but will be keep doing it after lockdown is over . I hope so but it would need support from central and local government. This cycle track was built in 2016. Before that you had to cycle on the road and that will not keep people cycling. What did councils and government need to do to make cycling more attractive . There are temporary cycle range but they need to become a permanent . Exactly. We need more support so local authorities contained in these into permanent infrastructure and create Strategic Networks that are safe for everybody, whether you are old, young middle aged for everyone. And being able tojoin up is important. In london it is a bit easier but if you are in a neighbouring city, you might live in one town and cycle into a different city and the provision will be very different . Cycling and walking need to be the same, they need to be strategic and joined up and thats so important. You dont want to go from one part of the country to another and everything is different, it should be the same high standards. When all this is over you would hope people carry on but what needs to change, what needs to be the fundamental thing that makes us finally ditch the car or getting to work . Fundamentally its about safety, people dont want to walk and cycle in the road with lots of traffic, we need protected infrastructure and quiet neighbourhoods so people can feel safe to jump on the bike with their kids. Its about creating this world class their kids. Its about creating this world class infrastructure, were still quite a long way away from that but we used to have a quarter of people cycling to work in this country that can happen again. The roads at the moment are particularly quiet, theres no School Traffic, many people are working from home that can, what happens when the cars and the buses and the School Traffic comes back . Its not going to be nice and quiet like this morning. Exactly, and i did research thinking what is people who habitually use public transport to go to work before the virus jump in their cars if they could . We could see 1 million more cars on the streets at peaktime, and million more cars on the streets at peak time, and thats bad for eve ryo ne peak time, and thats bad for everyone bad for people who use the car, we need people on their bikes and cycling and walking for short trips and most trips are short, it is possible. Nice to you, thank you, professor from the university westminster. Not cycling whether this morning but not determining many down here, it has been quite busy here, a cycle lane built and being expanded across the capital but as always, provision right across the country is very different and as we were hearing, depends on where you live and your cou nty depends on where you live and your county and whether there is a joined up county and whether there is a joined up approach. We will talk more about this through the morning and hopefully the weather may improve. Fingers crossed. See you soon. Ben, we will see you soon. Thank you very much. Lets take a look at todays papers. Most of the papers this morning feature pictures of Dame Vera Lynn, who died yesterday at the age of 103. The daily express dedicates its whole page to the forces sweetheart and quotes dame veras assistant, saying that the queen was very, very sad on hearing the news. In its top story, the daily mail says the governments decision to change the way its coronavirus tracing app works is an embarrassment and a damaging u turn. The guardian leads with a review into labours performance in last years general election by party group Labour Together. The paper reports the campaign was a picture of dysfunctionality, toxicity and drift, according to the guardian. And wales online leads with the news that all non essential shops will be allowed to open from monday. The copy says that the welsh first minister, Mark Drakeford, is expected to ask people to stay local within five miles for at least another two weeks. We will be speaking to him later this morning. There are a lot of differences between the various parts of the uk, and we will try to give you a clear outline today. We will speak to significant figures from wales, scotland. Northern ireland as well. In connection with schools, we are talking to nick gibb, and that is specific to england. Lots of information. Lots of pictures in the paper that have caught my eye, you have a text one . I find them so sad, these reports a report from the British Red Cross that says four out of ten people from their survey feel lonelier since lockdown. It goes on to say a third say that they have not had a meaningful conversation in the last week. At various stages in lockdown, people are feeling happy because theyve got a certain amount of co nta ct, because theyve got a certain amount of contact, but i think there remains a lot of loneliness and when you hear statistics like that, certain groups of people are very much still feeling it and the impact on that, which is the important point, is really significant. A lot of that comes down to shielding, doesnt it . Those of us who were for treatment enough not to have to shield will, say, miss a hug, hugging my friends, but at least im able to be in contact with them but its general chitchat, because if you are shielding, 2. 5 million are, youre not going out or youre going out at times when it is perhaps more quiet and you can avoid the risk of contacting people as well. Ive had lots of friends who have said if they are passing people who are shielding on the road, they are striking up a conversation, which makes it a bit nicer. One of the things that has confused me, i dont know if you can answer this, i saw this lovely picture in the times a tropical screech owl and band belly dowel and a snow read owl. Isnt it fantastic . They are at the Scottish Owl Centre in west lothian. The snowy owl centre in west lothian. The snowy one owl centre in west lothian. The snowy one here, with the open mouth, it isnt yawning or crying out, a p pa re ntly it isnt yawning or crying out, apparently it is doing it to cool down. A lot of animals do that. I have spent time researching this and i cant find any evidence of it. If anyone knows it is a fact that owls do that to cool down, i would like to know. I think i have do that to cool down, i would like to know. I thinki have heard that before, i am to know. I thinki have heard that before, iam by to know. I thinki have heard that before, i am by no means an expert on owls but i think it is true i will lay it down for you we will find out more through the programme stop. Focusing on education in england this morning, speaking to the education said. If you have questions about schooling, maybe your kids go back next week for the first time, maybe they are already m, first time, maybe they are already in, this is about extra tuition packages being brought in so if you have thoughts about the practicalities around school and how it might work in september, let us know this morning. Well be remembering Dame Vera Lynn throughout todays programme, hearing tributes from friends and colleagues in the Music Industry, and her charity. But for the generation who lived through the second world war, dame vera was so much more than just a singer or a celebrity. John maguire has been talking to some of them, and regular breakfast viewers may well recognise a few familiarfaces here. Through six years of danger, hardship and sacrifice, the songs of vera lynn provided notjust entertainment but hope. A vital attribute among the men, such as harry bellinger, who fought on d day. Harry bellinger, who fought on dday. 22,442 harry bellinger, who fought on dday. 22,4112 sellers died on dday on normandy beach, so i always remember that and im sure when some of these blokes died, they thought of these blokes died, they thought of these blokes died, they thought of the song wheel meet again or there will be bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover, because thats the sort of thing that was on your mind at the time home and she reminded you of your home and your loved ones. Fighting the war far away, whether in normandy or even further afield off the coast of japan, thoughts of home provided great solace for ken bembo of the royal navy. I always loved vera and i used to have a little photograph of her that i had i used to have a little photograph of herthat i had in i used to have a little photograph of her that i had in my pocket and her songs, i used to sing them with her. Lovely. As the forces sweetheart, veras concerts boosted the morale not just sweetheart, veras concerts boosted the morale notjust of troops fighting overseas but also of those involved in the campaign back home. Betty webb worked with the secret codebreakers at bettley park as was emboldened by the singers courage and dedication. She also went out to burma and the troops there had been very much neglected in lots of ways, and when she went out she actually went almost into the fighting line and she cheered the troops up no end. Of that visit, captains that are more said she had a huge impact and those who werent at her concerts wished they were. We used to feel envious when we saw her with the troops in the desert in different Foreign Countries where there were hundreds of them and, of course, we only had 200 on our ship, that was a full ships company. We couldnt compete with the army. If ever you went down and put one of her records on, that was it it made your day. In the postwar yea rs, made your day. In the postwar years, dame and her songs were a lwa ys years, dame and her songs were always at the centre of significant commemorations. She epitomise to the greatest generation. She was a hero, thats the best way to put it. Well meet again, regardless of everybodys situation, being uplifted. And that sense of hope was in the queens mind as she spoke to the nation early in the covid crisis and echoed those most famous words. We will be with our friends again, we will be with our families again, we will be with our families again, we will be with our families again, we will meet again. Ill never forget her, and i dont think anybody in my generation will forget her. Even now, youngsters today are still talking about vera lynn. I think the more they play the records, as they will do now, there will be more. Bringing veras voice to anyone who will want to listen. Marvellous they are the words that live on and provide a fitting legacy to the forces sweetheart and National Treasure Dame Vera Lynn. John maguire, bbc news. Its worth saying, isnt it, that we will be speaking to her daughter a little bit later this morning, so were very much looking forward to that. Im always mindful that when you see the clips of her singing, so many smiles always with those people. Obviously its on all the front pages this morning and im picking up this wraparound on the times, starts with a picture of her there, but theres an interesting piece by max hastings inside. It is quite interesting, she was everybodys sister, the consoling voice of a lonely war and she said the haunting tones of her worth finance week things in a place of unprecedented ugliness. You heard harry billinge, what she meant to so many people in terms of how she got it. We will speak to her daughter later. The last time we saw Karen Mannering was on a viral video in the early days of the lockdown. She was six months pregnant and lying in a hospital bed with covid 19, making a desperate and breathless plea for all of us to stay inside. Were very pleased to report that karen is now back at home safe and well, and with a new addition to the household. Colin campbell has the details. Cradling her newborn son three months ago, Karen Mannering feared they would both die after she contracted covid 19. She was at the time 26 weeks pregnant and on sunday night, Tyson Lee Mannering was born, weighing in at eightone ounce. The moment i gave birth to him and heard his cry, thats it, the emotions all kicked in i actually felt i could cry, grieve, feel sorry for everything weve been through together and put it in perspective and how lucky we both are to be here. I had pneumonia in both lungs. Im fighting for me and my both lungs. Im fighting for me and b. Both lungs. Im fighting for me and my baby. Karen was rushed to hospital in march. From her bed, she filmed this video appeal which went viral. Its not worth going out. Stopped going out, listen to boris. I was stopped going out, listen to boris. Iwasa stopped going out, listen to boris. I was a 39 year old pregnant women that come down bad with it and i wa nted that come down bad with it and i wanted everyone to know it not a drug, take it seriously, people are dying from it. After a speedy recovery, she dying from it. After a speedy recovery, she was dying from it. After a speedy recovery, she was back at the om oe hospital in margate in may to thank staff who had cared for her. Hospital in margate in may to thank staff who had cared for herlj literally cant thank you enough for the sacrifices you all make. She wasnt expecting to return to give birth untiljuly but was admitted last week to be induced, her baby son eventually delivered by c section late sunday night and a ptly c section late sunday night and aptly named tyson. Mike tyson and tyson fury are the boxes. Obviously theyve both been good fighters and heres another good fighter, so i think he deserved the name. Relatives have been given a sneak peak of the new arrival. Although pregnant women are seen as a precaution to be at moderate risk of covid 19, nhs suggest they are more likely to become seriously ill from the virus. We know pregnant women are no more likely to catch covid 19 than any other, so the advice is the same hand washing, making sure they hydrate and making sure they socially distance. I was quite worried about whether he was ever going to be here and how things were really going to turn out but now hes here, im an emotional wreck a Covid Survivor in the safety of his mothers arms meeting excited siblings. There is further relief for karen, who has just discovered shes developed antibodies for the virus. Shes waiting to find out if her little fighter has too. Colin campbell, bbc news, herne bay. What a very calming image, Tyson Lee Mannering, we welcome him to the world i had a quandary earlier, i was confused about owls when we were looking at the papers. I was confused about this owl, a picture from the Scottish Owl Centre, and this is a cheque opening his mouth to cool down, the joy of having people engaging with us and sian has got in touch to tell me what this is called. It is called goola fluttering or pandering and a puff out their mouths to cool off when they are hot or stressed because they are hot or stressed because they dont sweat. Your not interested . They dont sweat. Your not interested . I did know that. You are not interested . Interested . I did know that. You are not interested . You dont know what it was called so you didnt know it. I knew that animals opened their mouths to stay cool. Matt, did you know it was called goola fluttering and they do this to cool off . Did you know it is Common Knowledge . I off . Did you know it is Common Knowledge . I knew off . Did you know it is Common Knowledge . I knew none of this, every day is a learning day i was just yawning like this is a waterspout here. The stretch waterspout. We have seen lots of images over the past few days. That would have been classed asa days. That would have been classed as a tornado if it was overland. Thanks earning less lively over the next few days and today, there will bea next few days and today, there will be a few thunderstorms later but a damp start to the day and things running up through the afternoon. Anything south west, we have seen over a month worth of rain. That is clearing away now. A bit of rain across scotland. A damp and cloudy start here. Some of the wettest conditions through bouts of the south west of england. We will see outbreaks of rain put into Northern England, north wales and southern scotla nd england, north wales and southern scotland later. The odd rumble of thunder but it will be a dry afternoon compared to yesterday. Still quite humid out that so if the sun comes out you will notice it. Further north lots of loud and possible thunderstorms. Temperatures not quite as high as yesterday. Still, some sunny spells more cloud towards the north with patchy rain. Stalls across others scotland and england later will drift further north through the first part of tonight before fading away. Most of us tonight before fading away. Most of us becoming dry through the night. Mist and fog taking us towards tomorrow morning. Temperatures are still in double figures has to go into the weekend. When the front pushing through during saturday night allowing atlantic went so it is going to be a bit less humid and it will turn windier as we go through the weekend as well. For saturday, good sunny spells around. Morning showers across wales, the midlands and drifting through to south east england and lincolnshire. Most will have a dry saturday. Feeling present in the sunshine. Finishing the day with cloud into Northern Ireland with outbreaks of rain, that rain will spread eastwards a cross rain, that rain will spread eastwards across the country into sunday morning. Some heavy burst of rain as well. Early risers will see the damp weather first thing but then the sunshine will come out. Showers and scotland and Northern Ireland where they can be heavy and thundering. Showers in scotland. Much fresherfilter thundering. Showers in scotland. Much fresher filter sunday with temperatures for many in the tent but it will get humid and pretty warm during next week for some. More on that later. When it gets warm, the owls can cool down by opening their beaks because they cannot spread. Jane, ian also knew that and charlie knew that. I will seek to cloud. I will find something i know about later. Hello this is breakfast with Charlie Stayt and naga munchetty. Well bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. There will be bluebirds over. From forces sweetheart to National Treasure, Dame Vera Lynn was truly one of a kind. Throughout todays programme well be speaking to some of those who knew her best, including her daughter virginia and the tenor, alfie boe. Sally has been catching up with doddie weir, rob burrow and Stephen Darby three sporting heroes who are now showing a different type of strength in dealing with Motor Neurone Disease during the lockdown. Thats in 20 minutes. And hes become the worlds pe teacher during the lockdown but from next week joe wicks is planning to give us a few more rest days. Well be catching up withjoejust after 8 30. Good morning. Heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news primary and secondary schools in england will get a burst of £1 billion. The government has pledged that i thought of the cattle go towards a special tutoring programme for people in the poorest homes. Critics say the plant lacked detail and that some nurseries and students over16 and that some nurseries and students over 16 have been left out. And that some nurseries and students over16 have been left out. One metre apart for students in Northern Ireland when they return to school in august. This is to allow full classes to attend but adults, including school staff, should still keep two metres away from each other. Guidance for how schools will operate in Northern Ireland will be published later today. People of south Asian Heritage are more likely to die after being admitted to hospital suffering from coronavirus. Data showed that patients with south asian backgrounds were 20 more likely to die than white patients. The research, published in the la ncet the research, published in the lancet medicaljournal say the research, published in the Lancet Medical Journal say high levels of diabetes are partly to blame. Australia is under a serious and ongoing cyber attack by another country, thats according to its Prime Minister, Scott Morrison. He said all levels of government have been targeted. He declined to say which country might be responsible but said that all levels of government had been targeted. We are confident this is the action ofa we are confident this is the action of a state based actor. We have not gone any further than that. I cannot control what speculation others might engage in on this issue or frankly, any others. I have simply laid out the facts as we know them and have disclosed today. Malala yousafzai has completed her degree at oxford university. She took to twitter to share the news and revealed plans which include lots of netflix, reading and sleeping. These are the celebration pictures, obviously, after her graduation. You will remember that Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head because she was promoting girls going to school in pakistan. She is now graduated and she is getting well deserved rest. Typical student, she is getting well deserved rest. Typicalstudent, enjoyed. Enjoy it. What a week it has been. What a week its been for marcus rashford. It started here on breakfast on monday, when he told us about his campaign, to make sure vulnerable children, didnt go hungry this summer. By tuesday hed forced the government to do a u turn, meaning more than a million children in england will get Free School Meal vouchers this summer. Tonight, its back to the dayjob. Hes part of the Manchester United squad that travels to tottenham, as the premier league continues its restart. And both rashfords current and former managers, have been full of praise, for what hes achieved off the pitch. He has changed the lives of so many kids this summer which is more important than any game of football that he will ever play. Hopefully he can keep both sides going as well as he is doing now. I congratulate him for that. It is a big stretch for me that one Football Player can make it happen and, if it happens, it is because the government realised it was the right thing to do. Praise indeed. It wasnt a traditional ladies day at royal ascot, with all the fans dressed up but watching from home. On the course there was a bit of history for jockey hayley turner. Last year she became the first woman in more than 30 years to ride a winner at ascot and she repeated achievement once again riding 33 1 shot, on assis to victory in the sandringham stakes. Shes the first ever female jockey to win at ascot two years in a row. Frankie dettori keeps on setting records too. He won a third successive gold cup on stradivarious and they made it look easy too. Its an eighth gold cup win for dettori. And you know what is coming next there we go. At the start of the week he did not know if he was going to do his flying sat down but you cannot keep a good man down. Weve been hearing this morning about plans for a further easing of the lockdown rules across the uk. But are we ready for it . Lets ask one of our regular gps. Doctorjamie parker is in nottingham and hes recently re opened his surgery. How are you . I am very well. He recently reopened the surgery. How is it going . We have been open throughout. We physically reopen the front doors this week, having previously seen people in the cloud park. We opened the front doors for patients with routine booked appointments with the nursing staff. So lots of logistics and lots of stickers on the floor and barrier screens as i am stickers on the floor and barrier screens as i am sure stickers on the floor and barrier screens as i am sure lots of people around the country are experiencing at the moment. It was a different surgery than before. What has been the feedback from the patients . think they appreciate the efforts. People coming down are quite shocked with the experience they are getting, being told to use the hand wash straightaway stop to follow the arrows on the floor. Whereas these do go straight to the reception desk. It is a lot more complicated at the moment. Do you think they are more reassured coming into surgery. More reassured coming into surgery. There almost people into camps who have actually embraced the fa ct camps who have actually embraced the fact that distancing is for our safety but others who kind of feel i need some face to face contact . Absolutely. From the safety point of view, i think most people appreciate the fact that the initial telephone call or contact has to be remote and thatis call or contact has to be remote and that is for Patient Safety but to actually come down and have a sort of face to face appointment, for some people it is critical. I would say that we are still calling all patients before coming in and making sure that a face to face appointment is the most appropriate way to see them. It is an analysis of risk. With coronavirus, it is always at the back of our minds so if things can be done remotely then we will be doing them remotely but, from the point of view of having blood tests, dressings, the physical contact from the nursing staff is key and we have to find a way to do it safely. During our newspaper review we were talking about lockdown making britains feeling more lonely and isolated. Four in ten people feel lonely and a third say they have not had a meaningful conversation in the last week stop doctors appointments, this is something we spoke about a lot, how much time you get with doctors and actually a lot of the reason people are talking to you and the things that you find out because of conversations. What are you doing in terms of making sure conversations are happening and tackling loneliness . Even before coronavirus crisis, we were aware of the effects of loneliness, more in the effects of loneliness, more in the elderly population. We have quite a few elderly people in the area where i work and we are aware of the effects of loneliness. The Contact People have is maybe with the Television Screen or speaking to the Television Screen or speaking to the gp is one of the main reasons for making an appointment which is very sad. In terms of steps being taken, we now have got social prescribers employed to try and connect those people to support services in the community and tackle as far as we can then loneliness but i think it goes beyond that. It is a bigger question for society. U nfortu nately bigger question for society. Unfortunately coronavirus has provided quite the tragic but unique opportunity to understand our world better and shape and hopefully better and shape and hopefully better for future generations. Better and shape and hopefully betterforfuture generations. I would like to think that the right decisions are being made by the right people for the right reasons and looking back we can be proud of the decisions that were made. What do you mean by that . the decisions that were made. What do you mean by that . I think were seeing it more and more, i am speaking personally now. Please, do, please do, that brings so much value. For me personally, i am affected by this, a pandemic of apathy, of being aware of big issues but not knowing or not wanting to put your head above to address them. We have seen with marcus rashford, a young man, a successful manner willing to speak out and make a massive change and i think, Going Forward , massive change and i think, Going Forward, there are big issues that the government need to address. A key to the way society develops after coronavirus, which is a tragic but unique opportunity. Always valuable getting your personal opinion, we try to do with that with our gps because youre experiencing things were not, one thing that fascinated me from the press yesterday matt hancock announcing this vaccination project, glaxo and astrazeneca, throwing everything they can at this virus but before it is approved. If it is approved, and that is the hope, how prepared are you rolling out a Vaccination Programme quickly and effectively . Thats right. We are used to vaccinating a lot of people every year, so in terms of that, the systems a re every year, so in terms of that, the systems are in place so what we have to understand at that stage is how to understand at that stage is how to work with the social distancing advice. Normally with the flu each year, we have hundreds and hundreds of people down and we have drop in clinics and we have different hours with the practice. Clearly that wouldnt be practical this time. We have to think about the logistics of that but i would like to think if there was a vaccine and if it did come out, we would be well placed and prepared to provide that in the best way possible. We are already making preparations about the flu vaccine this year and doing that evidently, so plans are already in place about vaccinations. If there was a coronavirus vaccine, i think we would manage it well. Good to hear. Drjamie parker, always good to talk. Off to work . Yes, dropping the kids first then back to work. Fabulous, hope you have a good friday and thanks for talking to us. Thanks. Our focus this ourfocus this morning on breakfast is quite a bit on education and schools. You will know by now. Theres a £1 billion catch up package from the government to help kids who have missed out with their education. Education secretary Gavin Williamson says it will protect what he calls a lost generation to the pandemic. Dan johnsons at a Primary School in leicester to see what staff and parents think. You are looking rather large in relation to the desks around you but this is an important announcement and the schools are trying to work out what they can practically do and how they will work with this money. Absolutely. I am back in the classroom this morning but so many children still arent after three months of disruption to their education. Head teachers have been waiting to find out what the government would offer them and how they can get more children back into they can get more children back into the classroom but how they can help them catch up after missing so much time over the last few weeks. Marie is the boss of this school and quite a few others across leicestershire. A lot of money, what would you do with your share to help children catch up . The announcement of additional funding is most welcome but now we need to find out the specifics and what we would need to do is analyse any gaps in our childrens learning and put the appropriate provision in place. It will all be about quality interventions. What are those gaps and how do you start helping children . Its notjust about the academics, its about a recovery and resilience type curriculum and we need to make sure the emotional well being of the need to make sure the emotional well being of the children is secured to help them to learn properly and then its about analysing gaps in knowledge and learning. So notjust about education. Their health and emotional well being education. Their health and emotional well being as well. Theres lots of talk about one on one tuition, will that be pa rt one on one tuition, will that be part of the answer . I think it will be in autumn for that term, but it has to be about quality tuition and it has got to be tailored to all our childrens needs. How do you get more children back into the classroom . If were going to more of them in september, will this help with the practicalities . It will to a certain extent, a lot will be about the guidance come the autumn term especially about social distancing because looking at this classroom, we normally have 30 but we only have seven at the moment because of social distancing. Its a challenge but we are planning to be openin challenge but we are planning to be open in the autumn term as long as its feasible. Thank you, marie. I think for adam, it might come in september. But those children who have not come back into school and have not come back into school and have had an environment to learn, the well being i think is the most important aspect of that. Has been tough to do Home Learning . M important aspect of that. Has been tough to do Home Learning . It has been a juggler. I do not think i am a very good teacher. My husband and i work. The teachers have interacted with them so it has been a Good Alternative and something quite different but i think interaction be replaced. Do you worry about what they have missed out on . With regard to assessment, im not too worried about that. I am worried about the fa ct, about that. I am worried about the fact, the fund they have at the end of private school, the play, going on excursions where they go on and discover things. Are you looking forward to getting back to School Full Time . Forward to getting back to school fulltime . Kind of. Laughter this is your classroom. A bit of time, part time . We have half a day to day, every friday. And bits of holidays before september. Thank you very much and i appreciate you coming in early to speak to us. We will hear from the schools minister later and get more detail about exactly how this morning will be spent. Teachers wanting more detail about how it will be spent, what kind of decisions they can make. There is a huge challenge of trying to cover for the education of all children across england missing out on over the last few weeks. We will wait to find out exactly what the programme will be in other parts of the country. Really interesting hearing from the head teacher. One of the things we are picking up on this morning is the difference between Northern Ireland. You may be aware of the change within schools for people to come down to the one metre rule. We will keep with the two metres. Could she reflect on that for a moment, something she sees as crucial . We were talking about that, the decision in Northern Ireland to drop the social distancing down to one metre in schools. How much of a difference would that make . It very much depends on individual schools because of the physical space we have different schools but we have built hours but it is to think in a large bubble so we can actually get more children in our classroom at the moment. Do you think this body will help with the practicality . Most definitely because we can then work on Smaller Group sizes and see if we have any additional room. It is still a challenge. It will help from a staffing and personal capacity but not from a physical capacity but not from a physical capacity because we just do not have the spare rooms to put all the children and retain social distancing. Still some big challenges. What about the summer as well . There was talk of some summer sports. We have some up play schemes, they are still going ahead because parents will still be working and they will need the care for the children. Thank you very much. I have spoken to quite a few head teachers and they welcome with this sort of money and the freedom for them to decide exactly how to spend it. A bit of a different over what should happen over the summer. Teachers thinking it has been a crazy time and they need to calm things down, take a rest and prepare properly for what september will actually below. Huge questions about how the schools will fill up again. We will chat to you later, thank you very much. Cast your mind back to february, when life was still relatively normal for most of us and you might recall an interview on breakfast between sally and three retired sportsmen doddie weir, rob burrow and Stephen Darby. All three are living with Motor Neurone Disease, and they spoke about their situations with great honesty and courage. As you can imagine, life under lockdown is not easy for people with mnd. But, as sally has been finding out, doddie, rob and stephen remain determined to make the most of their time at home. Take a look. So good to see you. Where is it . There he is. I am fighting away. Good morning everybody, lovely to get the gang back together. Good to see you all. It is great to see you. It feels like a long time since we caught up. How are you all . Good, thanks, keeping well. Obviously, last time we met it was in february. Trying to get used to that situation. I have not been up to too much. Still trying to do things. What about you, rob . It is good to hear that you are happy. It is good to hear that you are happy i it is good to hear that you are happy. I can hear that it is difficult for you to talk but you feel ok. What about you . What about you . I need some help with the eating and closing but otherwise i am on the farm. Drive my tractor which i quite enjoyed a couple of hours a day, just do normal things so things are not too bad. I know all of you have been shielding so you have been more isolated probably that you have ever been before in your lives. What has that been like . My nearest is four miles away so it is lovely to still be able to go out and about. Steve, i know you and your wife have been busy with your charitable work and that has been hugely successful . M is nice to spend some time together. We quite enjoy spending time together and slow things down. We raise some money for the foundation. Within a few days, it really took off. I think in the end, we had about 700 people involved. All the uncertainty going around, it is tougher people. But it was incredible. What about you, rob, because i know you have a busy household. What has that been like keeping Everyone Entertained . Stephen, i will start with you may be, how important is it to have the support of these two . It is huge to know that you have got them fighting for the same thing you. Obviously you wish you were not fighting for the same thing but you are and it is important. It has been absolutely incredible. It is important that we keep fighting and we keep smiling. I have a positive outlook. It is the time we have god. Stay safe and we will party. The shut the time we have got. Absolutely wonderful to see you all. Great to see you all looking so good and so mentally positive and so strong. Keeping positive and so strong. Keeping positive and so strong. Keeping positive and we will keep in touch and we will come and see you the moment we are allowed to be back together again. Take care, les. Thank you. Labs. A conrod very between the three. You need to try to see the positive out of lockdown. Looking at our hes benefiting spending more time with his children. Very moving, very moving and we will hear more later. The headlines are coming up. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with Charlie Stayt and naga munchetty. Our headlines today £1 billion to help children in england catch up, after months out of school, but still no details of how theyll return in september. Shops can re open in wales from monday more details of how it will ease lockdown will be announced later today. Bike sales are booming but is it just a short term thing or a long term effect . We will find out later this we we will meet again, dont know where, dont know when. Remembering the forces sweetheart. Anything weather, a bit of sunshine today but another wet start across some in the south and thunderstorms later in Northern England and Northern Ireland. The full details in half an hour. Its friday the 19th ofjune. Our top story primary and secondary schools in england are to get a £1 billion boost to help children catch up on months of lessons that were missed during lockdown. The government pledged that a third of that cash will go towards a special tutoring programme for pupils from the poorest homes. Critics say the plans lack detail and that nursery pupils and some over 16s have been left out. Dan johnson reports. It goes 105, 100s and 100s. Extra maths delivered on line to help kids catch up. It is was already happening at this Primary School but now many more pupils across england will get this one on one support. You dont know whether to put your hand up and say i know the answer because you dont know how everyone is going to react, whereas in the tutoring, because it is one to one, you do not have to be, like, scared of saying what the answer is. Even times like this, during the pandemic, you can still learn a lot of stuff and you wont, like, slow down in your education, you canjust keep up. So it is helping you get better at maths . Yeah. Is that something you struggled with before . Kind of, and you do not have to worry about other people thinking why is he asking that question . Theres hundreds of millions for this sort of tutoring, targeted at those falling furthest behind. These sessions are run by a charity that uses volunteer tutors. You dont think it completely can take the place of traditional i dont think it completely can take the place of traditional teaching but we are seeing some really promising starts from our online tutoring that we are offering already, with pupils commenting that it is helping them to re engage with their learning, that it is replicating what they might get in the classroom and that, crucially, it is giving them that individual support and space where they can ask questions. Theres a lot of catching up to do because most children still have not made it back into school after three months of disruption now so what about summer . Will that be more time that they spent at home . And then september, what is that going to look like . How do you get more children back into these buildings . Will there ever be an assembly again in a hall like this . Head teachers now have money and some freedom in spending it to try to answer those questions and to work out how to get every child back up to speed. You have to be realistic and think that they will have bigger gaps in their learning but also how can we plug those gaps if those children, say for example, can only come back 15 at a time . I think there is a place for action tutoring to help and support us. But there is detail to come about exactly who gets this, how often and for how long. This funding is for one year, it does not cover preschool or post 16 education. It has been widely welcomed but with warnings it may not be enough. Dan johnson, bbc news, hackney, in east london. Lets see whats happening around the uk. Chris page is in belfast, weve got lorna gordon in glasgow and tomos morgan is in cardiff. Chris, lets come to you first. School children in Northern Ireland will only have to sit 1m apart, not 2m, when they return to school in august. Tell us more. Northern ireland is the first part of the uk to make a significant change to the social distancing rules. Ministers have decided that, when schools return, which will happen on 21st of august, the requirement will bejust happen on 21st of august, the requirement will be just one metre but multiply to adults, teachers will still have to stay two metres apart from the children in the class. Politicians here say that will enable most people to go back to school on a full time basis, not one or two days a week as initially was the case. But teaching unions have been sceptical saying schools do not have that much space and education is not going to be any way normal. That decision, part of a whole range of measures to ease lockdown. Churches are able to resume services at the end of this month. Barbers, and headdresses opening on the sixth ofjuly. Seven of the last 11 days have seen no deaths linked to covid 19 in ireland here. The message from medics in particular is that the virus is still out there and we have to be extremely cautious. Scotland is easing more of its lockdown restrictions today, including the number of people who can meet up. There is a slower pace to the easing of restrictions and first minister Nicola Sturgeon saying that patients will lead to a more sustainable recovery. What is happening today is missing a further easing restrictions on those most vulnerable, those who have been shielding ten from today take part in noncontact sport like golf and meet outdoors with people from one other household but in groups of no more than eight. People who live alone, couples living apart or perhaps a grandmother or a single parent with children under 18, they can form an extended household with one other household but they must choose that household and stick with them. Dentists are reopening, professionalsport resuming the monday after so in ten days time shops here in scotland which have outdoor entrances can reopen as well. But there is no news on beer gardens. That had been expected as part of phase two but the first minister saying more scientific advice is being sought to guide the decision on when areas like that can reopen. I so slow cautious easing of restrictions here. Shoppers might get some joy in cardiff . The centre here has been com pletely cardiff . The centre here has been completely closed but on monday the shops along the street and across the whole of wales will be reopening as long as they can maintain the social distancing and social distancing can be kept in place. What the first minister is expecting to announce later is that outdoor, noncontact sports will also be able to resume so things like tennis and maybe athletics but so long as people maintain that social distance and also there is only people from two different households together. They will not be any differences or easing of restrictions when it comes to the stay local rule which is a situation in wales. Contrary to england, people in wales can only travel within a five miles radius and that has been a level criticism, from People Living in rural areas and other Political Parties across wales. Now were to hear later today from the first minister, shops reopening, outdoor spots but no easing of restrictions on the 5 mile ruling. Tomos morgan is in cardiff. Eu leaders will meet online for a videoconference today as they try to resolve their divisions over a proposed coronavirus recovery fund. But several nations are resisting part of the Eu Commission plan, because it collectively involves raising hundreds of billions of pounds. We can cross not to our europe correspondent, gavin lee, from brussels. This is about astronomical amount of money. It has something of the star trek about it. It is massive in scale and unprecedented. For leaders, this really puts brexit into the shadows. It is 750 billion euro fund, basically they have raised this money collectively on the financial markets. 500 billion a year of it is of grants. The countries most need will get distributed money, those worst head, so distributed money, those worst head, so italy, spain, greece, 250 raised in the form of loans. The problem is, you have self proclaimed leaders, sweden, denmark, denmark, they are saying that their taxpayers will not allow gifts of grants and they put out a joint letter in one of the newspaper saying exactly that. You have Angela Merkel and emmanuel macron, germany and france, in the middle saying there has to be swift action and compromise and this is why it is called next generation eu because you needed for the eu to survive, that is how seriously they are taking it. The chance of anything happening i think our slam. It is going to be a face to face summit when that could happen, possibly injuly summit when that could happen, possibly in july and summit when that could happen, possibly injuly and that is when the could be some possible breakthrough. Thank you very much. Were talking about Dame Vera Lynn this morning, after she died at the age of 103. And while its her songs that shell be best remembered for, the forces sweetheart also left a legacy through her charity work. Dame vera was an advocate of many good causes and even set up her own charity to help children with Cerebral Palsy. Tim muffetts been finding out more. Use your imagination. She raised spirits, she raised money. You will see such wonders if you do. Dame vera lynn supported many good causes but her Children Charity was especially special to her. What goes on here . Dame vera lynn funded the charity in 2001 and we provide an Early Intervention service for families with very Young Children with Cerebral Palsy or any form of motor impairment and the service we provide as or has been provided for free to the children and the family. We think of Dame Vera Lynn as a singer not necessarily a fundraiser but one and impact she has had. You absolutely so that during the war, she was determined to go to burma when no other entertainer had chosen to go because she wanted to make sure those troops were not forgotten. She had that steely determination and it is the same with the charity. She was absolutely adamant, one, that her children, as she called them, would have a better facility to enjoy the services so she fund raised to build a building. This Paralympic Champion has Cerebral Palsy. How important has this charity been for you . I think if i had not gone there. I would not be here doing what i am doing now. It is important as a parent, we were looking for some sort of support and they gave us the opportunity to show us how to do the physio, how we could progress things to make the most of her ability and fulfil her potential. What do you think of Dame Vera Lynn now . Ella has Cerebral Palsy and attend the centre regularly. Her dad says it has been transformational. What does it represent to you . It is difficult to put into was because, without it, we would have been fairly lost in terms of dealing with a child with a disability to understand a lot more, firstly about disability and what it is but also the support network that they have put in place for you. You really feel like youre part of a largerfamily with really feel like youre part of a larger family with lots of other children and other parents that are here and all in similar circumstances. Dickon stainer met dame vera when he worked at decca records. Hejoins us now. Its worth saying, will be speaking to the daughter of dame vera, and at the heart of it is a family who lost a loved 1 and that is always worth remembering, isnt it . a loved 1 and that is always worth remembering, isnt it . I went a loved 1 and that is always worth remembering, isnt it . Iwent to visit dame vera and visited their house in sussex and what was notable was a lovely, lovely family with a warm atmosphere that was and it made her so happy there and it would a lwa ys her so happy there and it would always come across. That great spirit that she has. Im glad to hear you speaking there. Tell is a little bit about her. I was curious about her voice because many people have been really listening to those songs we know so well. What was the qualities about her, as a singer, both earlier and later in the career, i know you met her later on . She had an effortless style. She never really appeared to be giving any effort. You could hear every word of every song. She had a honey, lyrical style and she was a great singer. I think in some ways she kind of wrote down the concert venue. She sang outdoors and to everybody. She was a great connecting force and i think her singing was right at the heart of that. As she got older, so, she took ona that. As she got older, so, she took on a slightly different style and it was very on a slightly different style and it was very conversational. When she was very conversational. When she was singing to you, it was almost like she was talking to you, like she was pouring some magic elixir into your ear. She was the most incredible artist. It was lovely hearing from people from all eras, some of the veterans she met way back when she went out to burma and those recently as well. What were your impressions when you 1st met her . She was so modest. You really would not know that she achieved much. Sitting talk about what she had done and more than anything else, she made you feel like she was talking to you and you were special for those few minutes. She had a unique way of making you feel relaxed. She was a natural person. I think that came across everywhere she went. What many have said, that is what many have said. Do you remember your 1st encounter . Was it in the studio . What was your 1st encounter . It was a place she went often and with her daughter and it had a special feeling and resonance with her and she loved going around and looking at all the pictures and it took her back to that time when she travelled, travelled to india herself and she travelled to burma and when she saw those pictures of other artists it made herfeel fearless because she was fearless, she was a very brave person and often put herself in the line of fire and when she went to these big venues, she was in her natural habitat. Her place was the amphitheatre and where she felt she could communicate the meeting her there was very special. You know the Music Industry inside out and many make reference to the fact that she had a number1 record in 1992. It is quite an extraordinary achievement, isnt it . I can remember that day and excitement and the company when we thought she was going to have a number1 at 92 years old which would make it the oldest artist ever to have a number 1 make it the oldest artist ever to have a number1 album and a pleasure to be able to present her with a disk and it meant so much to her and just the surprise of it but also just the surprise of it but also just knowing that she deserved it. Lovely moment to cherish and her delight in the fact that people were still loving her music. Such a lovely thing after so much time, isnt it . She was a crossgenerational artist, like no other. Even now, ithink crossgenerational artist, like no other. Even now, i think people are discovering her and her legacy, the things she did. The unique ability she add to make people do that extra thing when times were tough. She is to be celebrated by everyone, everywhere. Very well said, thank you for your time this morning. It is really interesting, hearing different people recollections. That was from the business side of her career, if you like, as a recording artist. Reflecting quite bit this morning for you about a remarkable life. And will be talking to her daughter a little bit later and also alfie bow later, some lovely memories later when it comes to the music. The government has made a u turn over the mobile phone app which will be used to track and trace people with coronavirus. The original plans needed to be ditched because assistance were not working separately and now its trying to combine parts used by apple and google to move forward. Talking to our technology expert. Always good to see you, what were the problems because there were two different apps, technologies . What the uk has been doing, the nhs has been doing is going down one particular route where data would be collected centrally and apple and google have a system to make this work better and they didnt like that route and the nhs was told by many experts way back that the syste m many experts way back that the system they were developing would not work because it would not use the bluetooth properly, particularly on the iphone and during a trial on the isle of wight, lo and behold, thatis the isle of wight, lo and behold, that is exactly what they found. Many downloaded the app and quite good at picking up android but not spotting other apple iphones, just 496 spotting other apple iphones, just 4 success rate there. So that made it absolutely clear that had to switch tack and people have been telling them they needed to do this for quite a long time. They have perhaps, rightly, questioned whether it should be apple that determines exactly how countries develop the apps but they basically conceded defeat and said they would have to switch tack. I was watching the press co nfe re nce switch tack. I was watching the press conference yesterday and matt hancock did safe private or public, anyone who can help us with this Technology Get going, do. He is making it very clear that they are ata making it very clear that they are at a loss here . Yeah, i making it very clear that they are ata loss here . Yeah, i mean, making it very clear that they are at a loss here . Yeah, i mean, they got a long way down the track and they thought they had cracked it. But other countries are basically put their hands up and said we cannot build and app that works well without this very previously focused syste m without this very previously focused system that apple and google are putting out. Germany for instance has gone down the route, switzerland some time ago and launched it at nationwide this week. What has to be said though is that this is really untested technology. It is not guaranteed it would work under any system. Nobody around the world has found that using bluetooth Contact Tracing apps definitely works yet. Still a long way to go. And baroness harding, head of the test and trace App Programme said it may actually never be used to aid Contact Tracing so never be used to aid Contact Tracing so it does make you wonder is it really needed . I think that is the big question. Early on, there was huge enthusiasm in the government for getting on with this. I was speaking a lot to the Team Involved and they were basically being told to go there, get on and do it and act like a tech start up, get it out there and suddenly they said in the la st there and suddenly they said in the last few weeks, it has been the opposite, be very careful, slow down, take care. I think what has dawned on people is that, actually, the Old Fashioned method, manual Contact Tracing, finding people up, is better. I think there has always beena is better. I think there has always been a question about whether you if you have an alert from an app saying you have an alert from an app saying you have an alert from an app saying you have been in contact with somebody, you have to go to quarantine for 14 days, a big deal, you would really take notice of that in the same wayward take notice of a phone call. That is a big question really. I suppose also it brings into account if you look at what the app was doing, it was thinking you we re app was doing, it was thinking you were in contact with, physical contact with, if they were infected. Now, if everyone is abiding by the social distancing rules, that would not be a problem because you would not be a problem because you would not have been exposed if you were to meet apart and not spending excessive time in someones company to excessive time in someones company to metres apart. Does this help people like commuters for instance people like commuters for instance people unavoidably in areas with people unavoidably in areas with people they do not know 2m apart. In theory there is a good case for this. We could all tell the contact cases that we were with friends last tuesday. You could not tell them if you got for instance on a crowded underground train which many people may be doing in the coming months andl may be doing in the coming months and i remembersitting may be doing in the coming months and i remember sitting next to that person for ten minutes because it would not know who they were. In those circumstances, this could be very useful. The big question is does the Technology Work . There have beena does the Technology Work . There have been a study out this week from some academics in ireland which says bluetooth is a pretty shocking way of measuring distance. It doesnt quite know whether if you put your phonein quite know whether if you put your phone in your pocket it would have a different view from when you have a phonein different view from when you have a phone in your hand. As i keep saying, this is Cutting Edge Technology which in the final analysis may not actually work. Rory, in the scheme, we talk about developing a vaccine in seeing how the scientific world has come together charging forward to get something for a treatment. Why has this not happened in the world of technology . What is going on in terms of why there is no cooperation because you would think since Technology Accelerates it such a pace and we have seen such differences, such changes, why has this not happened here . There is a certain amount of cooperation. For instance, the apple and google system, with all the restrictions it has, isa system, with all the restrictions it has, is a kind of international cooperation. The germans for instance have published all the details of the code, the Software Code behind their app and said anybody want to imitate that. There isa anybody want to imitate that. There is a lot of experimentation going on butjust as, just is a lot of experimentation going on but just as, just as we are trying to develop a vaccine in record time, developing new technology and a new app developing new technology and a new app ina developing new technology and a new app in a matter of months was always going to be hugely challenging. The other thing is all of these apps depend on massive take up by the population. Getting 60 of people to download them. Germany is celebrating because in a few days it got 10 of the population downloading its app but that still has a long way to go before it becomes effective because unless the people you are running into also have the app, its of no use whatsoever. Indeed. Thank you for taking us through all of that, rory. That is our technology editor, rory. Now lets get the weather with matt. Sunshine . Good morning to you both and sunshine today and there weekend and sunshine today and there weekend and rain across the parts of south wales and parts of england where people have seen close to a month rain in 20 for hours. This was the rain in 20 for hours. This was the rain which was from yesterday, continuing through the night and easing away from Northern Ireland and west of scotland, splashes around and heavy burst through Central Scotland and southern counties of wales moving eastwards. Through wealth, southern england, expect rains at times today, bright skies later pushing northwards and turning thundery during the second half of the day. Better second half of the day the further south compared with the morning and some sunshine, some human when the sun comes out but the north midlands, heavy showers and thunderstorms, same with southern scotland and Northern Ireland. Some sunshine breaking through some cloud across scotland and through central areas, staying party furthermore and misty and murky through the eastern coast. This evening, thunderstorms across gotland before fading and scotland and apache mist and fog around but another mild night with temperatures in double figures taking us into the start of the weekend. The weekend . A change and the weather front will push through saturday into sunday bringing stronger winds and also a drop in temperatures as well so after a humid week it will feel fresher this weekend especially as the wind picks up weekend especially as the wind picks up on sunday. Details on saturday shows most will be dry during the day, a few showers across parts of wales, the midlands during the morning drifting through to the North Eastern lincolnshire in the afternoon and isolated showers but most will see sunny spells, clouding overin most will see sunny spells, clouding over in the westlake s and then youll feel quite pleasant but rain arriving into Northern Ireland as we head through saturday evening and overnight. That will sweep across all parts of the country during saturday night and heavy bursts of rain for most of you but through sunday morning while some of you in the east and north will start off damp, guys are bright and the sunshine will come out but a few heavy and thundery showers across scotland and Northern Ireland, in particular. Temperatures in the teens for most by this stage but that would change next week because things are set to warm up again and they want coming up all the way from iberia into wednesday and thursday temperatures getting close to 40 degrees in some parts of spain and portugal and some in england and wales could get up to 30 celsius. Does not mean sunshine all the way next week, parts of northern west will continue to see rain at times. Back to you both. It is going to be wrong, it is going to feel like holiday weather, even if we cant go on holiday. Exactly but not for everybody, i have two stress that. Hello, this is breakfast with Charlie Stayt, and naga munchetty. Primary and secondary schools in england are to get a one billion pound boost to help children catch up on months of lessons that were missed during lockdown. The government pledged that a third of that cash will go towards a special tutoring programme for pupils from the poorest homes. Critics say the plans lack detail, and that nursery pupils and some over 16s have been left out. School children in Northern Ireland will only have to sit one metre apart not two when they return to school in august. Stormont has announced the measures to allow full classes to attend, but adults, including school staff, should still keep two metres away from each other. Guidance on how schools can operate in Northern Ireland will be published later today. People of south Asian Heritage are more likely to die from coronavirus after being admitted to hospital in the uk, according to a major new study. Data from 260 hospitals across england, wales and scotland showed that patients with south asian backgrounds were 20 per cent more likely to die than white patients. The research, published in the lancet medicaljournal, suggests that high levels of diabetes are partly to blame. Four months ago, the northern Italian Region of lombardy became the global epicentre of coronavirus as it saw the first major outbreak in europe. As key mistakes were made, the virus engulfed one of the continents wealthiest corners and sparked cases around the world. Our correspondent mark lowen, who has reported on the story from the start, has returned to lombardy to ask what went wrong. Its four months since lombardy became the wuhan of the west. Its sufferings seared into memory. The virus throttled, taking hold in europe and exporting cases around the world. To get the very latest on the situation in northern italy, our correspondent mark lowen. I have reported on the story from the start and now im back to report on those who want answers. In bergamo, 6,000 people died in march alone thought to be the highest rate of excess deaths in the world. Ines and her husband were married for 53 years he spent his last months in hospital. We are facing a war now here. As the outbreak errupted and our coverage took us across italy, i spoke to a doctor whose hospital was overwhelmed. Stefano, hi, mark from the bbc. Very nice to see you again. We were late in finding the virus. We were told we had to search for a link with china but we were not able to see patients with that kind of symptoms that were coming from china. We lost time in closing the area. So, the lockdown came late. Politicians past the buck over closing italys second richest city under pressure from business groups. Delayed lockdown, as other countries have seen, cost dearly. As did the decision to move some of the sick to care homes. Half of the 140 patient in this one died. When angela olivellas mother developed a fever, she wasnt tested she died a week later. We spoke to one worker who wanted her identity hidden. I had my first symptoms after helping a patient who was positive. The head of the care home wing said i should go home, but the director said no, because my fever was not 37. 7 degrees as the rules said. Three to four days went by. While i was infected, i must have infected other people. If they had managed this well, everyone should still be alive. The care home declined an interview but in a statement told us the claims were false and theyd followed health protocols. At the heart of europe, and with italys largest elderly population, lombardy was an easy target. Key errors means its still the infection hub. This is the legacy of lombardys emergency. The daily presence of the ambulances, the need for complete protection, the full mobilisation of resources to prevent another spike of the virus. The crisis may no longer be at its height but it still lingers, ready to bounce back. Italy was used as a model of how to respond to the virus. Now its a mirror of the mistakes that so many others too have made. Mark lowen, bbc news lombardy. Really interesting reflecting on what were truly devastating times. The last time we saw canning mannering was on a viral video. She was six months pregnant, making a desperate plea. That karen is now back at home safe and well and with a new addition to the household. Colin campbell has the details. Cradling her newborn son, three months ago she feared they would both die. She was at the time 26 week pregnant. She was at the time 26 weeks pregnant. On sunday night, Tyson Lee Mannering was born, weighing in at 8lb 1oz. The moment i gave birth to him and i heard his cry, i think that was it, the emotions can all kick in then i actually felt i could cry, grieve, feel sorry for everything weve been through together and put it in perspective oh, dear and how lucky we both are to be here. I had pneumonia in both lungs. Im fighting for me and my baby. Karen was rushed to hospital in march. From her bed, she filmed this video appeal which went viral. Its not worth going out. Stop going out, listen to boris. I was a 39 year old pregnant women that come down bad with it, and ijust wanted everyone to know its not a joke, take it seriously people are dying from it. After making a speedy recovery, she was back at the oeom hospital in margate in may to thank staff who had cared for her. I literally cant thank you enough for the sacrifices you all make. Like, i remember. She wasnt expecting to return to give birth untiljuly but was admitted last week to be induced. Her baby son eventually delivered by c section late sunday night and aptly named tyson. Mike tyson and tyson fury are the boxers. Obviously theyve both been good fighters, and this is another good fighter, so i think he deserved the name. Is this your cousin . Relatives are being given a sneak peak of the new arrival. Although pregnant women are considered, as a precaution, to be at moderate risk of covid 19, the nhs says theres no no no to be at moderate risk of covid 19, the nhs says theres no evidence there more likely to become seriously ill from the virus. We know pregnant women are no more likely to catch coronavirus than any other, so the advice is the same hand washing, making sure they hydrate and making sure they socially distance. I think i was quite worried about whether he was ever going to be here and how things were really going to turn out, but now hes here, im, like, an emotional wreck a Covid Survivor in the safety of his mothers arms meeting excited siblings. There is further relief for karen, whos just discovered shes developed antibodies for the virus. Shes waiting to find out if her little fighter has too. Colin campbell, bbc news, herne bay. That is an image for the day. Sometimes you can just look at a little baby sleeping, it is just peaceful. If youve tried to buy a bike during the lockdown, youll probably have an idea ofjust how busy the cycling shops have been. The bicycle business is booming and bens on a cycle superhighway in london to tell us more. There are upside to cycling. You do get to see stuff. I had the most glorious commute into work this morning, but buckingham palace, no one inside. A beautiful view on the south bank and were talking about cycling because business is booming. The number of us looking to buy a bike because we want to avoid public transport in the wake of coronavirus that we have taken to two wheels instead of four. It is said to be worth £1 billion, the cycling market as more of us invest in those bugs. What are we buying . The bikes, the electric bikes, they give you a bit of a boost appeals. But you cant even get hands on some others, city bikes, mountain bikes, suchis others, city bikes, mountain bikes, such is the demand. But cycle lanes need to be dealt to make it safer because while traffic is pretty light now, it could get a lot busier. Lets talk about all the implication. Will norman is the walking and cycling commissioner in london. It is yourjob to spend some of that money to make sure it is safer people get around. Lets talk about the big boom because clearly in the wake of coronavirus, people are deciding to go on a bike. Is this just are deciding to go on a bike. Is thisjust a are deciding to go on a bike. Is this just a temporary fix . Are deciding to go on a bike. Is thisjust a temporary fix . This is all about coping with the crisis. With social distancing, there simply isnt the space to use public transport. The best mode of getting around our city is by walking and cycling and that is exactly what we are doing. We are investing money to make safer cycle lanes, wider pavements. The whole point is to capitalise on the good news. We have seen capitalise on the good news. We have seen record numbers of people returning to cycling and getting their bikes out of hibernation and taking it to the streets. With safer streets, hopefully they will continue to do that in the future. While the roads are quiet, it is a pretty nice way to get around but that will change when people get back to work. That is exactly why were working so quickly to put in measures across the city, while the traffic is low and people are cycling so they continued to do that. On a normal day, this is the busiest cycle lane in the country. The point is to enable people to do this all over london. So that all londoners have the opportunity to get around londoners have the opportunity to getaround in londoners have the opportunity to get around in a healthy way. You are ina get around in a healthy way. You are in a relatively fortunate position that you can go borrow by borough but it is not the same elsewhere in the country. You may be living in one town committed to another city and suddenly a bike lane and is. Obviously we are not all joined together but i am delighted that this is an agenda that is crossing the political divide. The Prime Minister has talked about a golden era of cycling and the mayor is committed to this with a plan delivered across london. This is no longer an issue of labour and tory but a greener and healthier recovery. £225 million pledge to build cycle lanes, some are temporaryjust to build cycle lanes, some are temporary just to get build cycle lanes, some are temporaryjust to get people safe right now but it is not enough. Something like this costs a lot of money. How many cycles lanes like this will it build . Not enough and thatis this will it build . Not enough and that is exactly why we are putting in temporary measures to seize this moment but this does require sustained investment from government, councils and the political will to continue to do that. We are fortunate we have that in london and we are determined to do this and that is exactly what we will be delivering in the coming months. What have you learned here in london doing this that other councils could learn . You are in a relatively fortunate position, you are ina relatively fortunate position, you are in a lot of space with a lot of money to play with . There was a Kevin Costner film in the 80s which said build itand Kevin Costner film in the 80s which said build it and they will come. You see people from every walk of life, every age and background using their bicycles. The motto is make their bicycles. The motto is make the save space to cycle and they will. It improves everybodys health as well. Really nice to talk to you. Thank you so much. That is the view of what they are doing in london. Some lessons are applicable across the country but it is not always as joined up as it could be but more people take into the bikes was a good news for our health and the environment and ultimately, £1 billion over the next few years, good news for the economy as well. And we need good news for the economy. He would be enjoying it at riverside. It is beautiful and it is not raining that nine. Now. The focus this morning on education because gradually schools have tried to reopen. Some have been opened. Now a package to help children return. Dan johnson is in leicester. Good morning to you. It must be a bit of a flashback, you look very tall against those desks. New classroom, etiquette, lots to deal with . This is a classroom that would normally have 30 kids but at the moment we can only get seven children in here which means that some of them are being taught in other classrooms and some are not here and some classrooms are still doing Home Learning and learning online and this is why children are falling behind and the government has announced all this money to try to help them catch up on a big part of them walk be one to one tuition. Jodi is the teacher in this year 6 classroom and what has it been like over the last few weeks teaching kids remotely . The provision weve been given has been fabulous compared to other schools who perhaps have less skill on the staff and we have got. We have a fantastic head of school who has set up a wonderful interactive environment with legal classrooms so weve been able to respond almost immediately to the children and interact with them google classrooms and the activities i think have been a absolutely first rate activities i think have been a absolutely first rate and activities i think have been a absolutely first rate and weve had great feedback. But it can never match the classroom experience, can a . We cannot offer the fully broad balanced curriculum that we would ordinarily have to replace that ordinary interaction, the social interactions and Pastoral Care on a day to day basis, you cannot do that remotely. What do you think about catching up on what you think that means and do children need . That we depend on individual children and are such a variety within children and across schools, and we would have children he like every school that need more support without an teachers are best placed to identify what needs would be really and it will take time to fully assess and some of those children are not back into the bubbles as we are calling them so that will take time to see how they are doing when they do come back into school. Does money for 1to1 back into school. Does money for 1 to 1 tuition, do you think that will be useful . It will be useful and it has to be useful, as long as schools and leaders of schools can direct where the funding goes, it has to be a valuable resource to have but it will take a bit of careful consideration and as has been said, we dont know precisely what details of that will be yet. The priority here is always the well being of children the priority here is always the well being of children so they can flourish in the environment and that comes first before any academic considerations which are important as well in the longer term. Thank you, a lot of detail to come but we can see what some of the pupils and pa rents can see what some of the pupils and parents think. Adam is in year 6, this is your classroom . Yes. How is it been at home, that been like . Good but ill be missing my friends a loss. Yeah. Weve had a lot of work. A lot of work to do . Have you been doing it . Yeah. Obviously its different to learning at school but have still learning things . Yeah, we have still learning things . Yeah, we have been learning a lot. Weve had maths we can print off and do things on google slides and we can all access that and they check up on an e mail. Access that and they check up on an email. Lots to do then though and lots to catch up on and your mother, how have you found the home schooling . How have you found the homeschooling . It is a jungle and we are both working and we are fortunate to be working full time at home but the provisions that have been provided has been really good in terms of kids being able to independently access it, and some days are better than others but it is ok, we have managed. How much catching up is there to do . Varies for different families, times are different for 1 to 1 and some may be at work and harder to access and it will vary quite a lot and for our family, catching up is six is more difficult to do because there are different elements to that. Their well being, the social aspects they learn from all the fun stuff, the plays. Do like the sound of 1 to 1 tuition, would that help you guys . Yeah,. Having your own teacher in effect . Its making sure the people who really need it get it. Exactly how that will be worked out is the big question. We thank you for coming in early to us this morning. Im not of work to do about who will get the support, what it will look like, how much time they will have in terms of tuition and how much money will be spent, hundreds of millions of pounds available for head teachers across england and they do have some freedom in how to spend the money but there are some big challenges and how to get children back to school in september, how you actually start filling up the classrooms again and precisely how you help kids catch up isa precisely how you help kids catch up is a big question. This money, this announcement has been widely welcomed but there are some big challenges ahead and has been concern from some that this money is not available for nurseries, preschool or college kids either. Some disappointment there that they have not been accounted for in the announcement. Thank you. Let you know what i like about adam . He makes no apologies that he is at school and hes been there since six oclock this morning it looked like he was mainly looking forward to seeing friends. Yes why wouldnt you . And it is now nine minutes to eight, good morning. First minister Mark Drakeford will lay out further changes to the rules. Good morning, good to have you on the programme. Are you going to tell me are you able to tell me what youre going to announce today . Yes, i will be announcing today that over the next three weeks on every monday we will build up further restoring to people in wales as we are able to go on cautiously and carefully lifting lockdowns, non essential retailer will reopen in wales on monday of next week and on the following monday, the 29th, schools are reopening in wales and on the following monday, july six, provided the virus remains under control and then our stay local restrictions will be lifted so that people can travel across wales to tourist destinations, to families and so on. What is driving the Decision Making behind this . If the pressure from those filling it can go on from and are they looking at measures being relaxed. Public health is at the forefront of our Decision Making, and we have some headroom because admissions to hospital of following that is falling, use of Critical Care beds is falling, the number of deaths we still have to report every day the lowest since lockdown began. We are using the Public Health headroom that we have to begin to reopen the economy, to reopen schools and to allow people further travel possibilities in wales as we want to reopen our tourist economy as well. One of the things you have come under pressure for and the government has come under pressure for, about, ishould government has come under pressure for, about, i should say, government has come under pressure for, about, ishould say, is government has come under pressure for, about, i should say, is the five mile radius rule that you cannot travel more than five miles, particularly for those in rural areas. We been covering a piece in the times looking at how Lonely People are and particularly in this and how it affects Mental Health. You say that stay local rule, if the numbers match, will be relaxed on july six, why cant you just do it now . Because the virus in wales is by no means at an end and our stay local rule has really helped us to bear down on coronavirus in wales and were asking people to go one la st and were asking people to go one last lap in these stay local rule, to use the next two weeks of our local authorities in the west and north of well so we can prepare for visitors to return and today will also be sent to people that as from monday, if you need to go beyond the local area for a compassionate reason, if you have somebody who needs to see you because they have become lonely and isolated, their well being become lonely and isolated, their well being is become lonely and isolated, their well being is suffering, become lonely and isolated, their well being is suffering, you become lonely and isolated, their well being is suffering, you will be able to do that immediately in wales as from mondays. Ok, talking about schools on the 29th, £1 billion package unveiled for schools in england, in Northern Ireland, when schools go back the children will be looking at one meeting distancing apart, not the adults though. Are all schools in wales for all ages be opening on the 29th . All schools will be opening in wales from the 29th and over the remaining weeks of the term, all children will return to be able to catch up, check in and prepare for the summer. Not all children will be in school all the time by any means. We do not expect more than one third at the most of children to be in anyones school at any one time, but all our children have the chance to go back to meet their teachers, their friends, to prepare for these summer ahead and to learn a lot about what their. Apologies, i think he was getting to the end of his point there and all schools will open but not all children will be going and no more than one third full capacity of schools when they start going back on the 29th ofjune if all measures remain suitable. That is the first minister of wealth talking to us from cardiff. Nick gibb, schools minister, talking specifically about england, good morning. Thank you for your time this morning. So this is an important announcement today in terms of catch up funding. Can we go through some basics on this . This £1 billion fund, when will schools get the money . During the coming financial year, Academic Year starting in september, and they know it is coming and they can use it earlier than that. Were determined that children will not lose out in the education as consequence of the lockdown although schools have been doing a greatjob in providing online lessons and support for children we have been helping the government level with things like the National Open academy, 180 video lessons a week, there is Nothing Better for children and being in school and when they are in school we school and when they are in school we want them to have a catch up so they do not lose out as a consequence of the crisis. Cannot be absolutely clear, did you say a moment ago they can access the money before september . Or did you say that they know the money is coming . Which is that . Its an important difference. The money will start to be paid in the Academic Year, starting september but schools will know coming and they will be able to budget on that basis if they want to do things before september. But the money will start being distributed to schools and we will have more to say about that shortly from the next Academic Year, september. Can give them clarity because many have been asking questions not least in the Education System themselves, exactly will decide how that money is spent . Ultimately it will be the head teacher with the discretion to schools but there is a lot of device from the Education Foundation this morning setting out our whole menu of options that they know from the research are the most effective ways of helping children to catch up with education and all of those things on the menu, one of those is 1 to 1 tuition and small Group Tuition make sure children who have lost out during the period of at home, catch up during the period of at home, catch up and in addition to the 650 million, there is £350 million specifically geared to children from most disadvantaged families and schools and that is 1 to 1 online tuition to help those children catch up. Who will be doing the 1to1 tuition . That is arranged through the Education Endowment Foundation and they have identified a number of tuition and companies that they have evaluated or will be in the process of evaluating, and those tuition companies will then be recruiting extra people to help with that itoi extra people to help with that 1 to 1 tuition. That may be young graduates, teacher trainees and someone graduates, teacher trainees and someone who had been signed up by those companies to provide the itoi those companies to provide the 1 to 1 tuition. Those companies to provide the 1to1 tuition. The decision about who that those are will be made by him . Made by those due to companies, those well established and evaluated tutorial companies. Took me through the process so i understand clearly, you are saying head teacher will have the discretion about how this works but they will be told about the people who they can use for that service . There are two Different Things, one is £350 million specifically for disadvantaged children, through the tuition companies and 1 to 1 online tuition to help those children catch up and then there is £650 million to all schools, that they can use at their discretion and that is a whole menu of advice from the endowment federation about the about advise they can give about catching up advise they can give about catching up and we are absolutely keen to see no child disadvantaged by this crisis. Will all schools be open in september . Are clear intention is that all schools will open in september, that is what we want to see happening and we have a phased approach to welcoming back more children from kindergarten to year 6 and then from june and schools have been open for the whole period of the crisis, even from march, the children of critical workers and those most vulnerable and now about a million children are in our schools but we want to do so in line with these sage advice, advice of scientists, and in a way that is safe for children and teachers and thatis safe for children and teachers and that is why we had a very phased, cautious approach so far but our clear intention is that we will have schools fully open in september. Can you explain why it is that in Northern Ireland, people would be aware of this by now, that in Northern Ireland, within schools, they will now be adopting a one metre distance between those schoolchildren who were at school, exclusive to the children, teachers will still be at two metres, how it is that their scientific advice is that they can do that and schools in england he was saying they are struggling with literally the space they have in the numbers they have cannot . We have never basis advice on the two metre rule, what we are basing it on minimising the number of children moving in the community and within the school and that is why we have 15 in the classes and making sure we have all kinds of hygiene, avoiding pinch points in the schools and thats what it is designed to do and the government is revealing this and. . I think we have a technical problem there. One thing i was going to ask was specific to the one metre and to me to rule and it within schools this is so crucial because we were hearing about the actual space within rules anti Northern Ireland if they bring the one metre ruling it means literally they are able to have more children in school and therefore more children can get more education. We just lost you for a second, please carry on. Yes, so, we are determined to make sure, this package is designed to make sure, that children are able to catch up over the period of a year, it is £1 billion, this is a government that is absolutely determined. billion, this is a government that is absolutely determined. If i may come away slightly lost track, it is partly because of the communications, and weve lost your image there. Just advise me, are we going to try and carry on with this one . I think we struggling, really. Are we . Can we try one more time to speak to are we . Can we try one more time to speakto mrgapes . Are we . Can we try one more time to speak to mr gapes . No. Well leave that for now. My apologies, every once ina that for now. My apologies, every once in a while, we seem to be having one of those days today, things dont quite go as we would wish. You know what we need, we need an even bigger sofa so that we can do the two metre rule, and just get them back in. Get them back in its them back in. Get them back in its the joy of technology, isnt it . We are able to kick the gremlins away from nick eardleys connection, who is in westminster. Obviously, the communications were not great but a lot was said, charlie was trying to get to some of the detail, weve been hearing from teachers today who say, we dont know what this funding is actually going to fund . say, we dont know what this funding is actually going to fund . I think thats right. The £1 billion has been broadly welcomed by teachers and by the unions, theyre really happy that there is going to be more money to help kids catch up when they are back in school. Some questions overjust they are back in school. Some questions over just how they are back in school. Some questions overjust how much discretion her teachers will have in spending all of this, some questions over how it will be delivered as well. We heard charlie there asking about when exactly schools will get the money, and it sounds like it is going to be a few months yet before the cash is actually in their bank accounts. Just to remind you, briefly, it is £1 billion, £650 million of that is to help everybody catch up, schools will apply for it, it is meant to be for things like group tutorials, potentially some one to ones as well. The rest of the money, £350 million, will be for the most disadvantaged children to make sure that they can catch up on anything they have fallen behind on during the lockdown. Broadly, that money has been welcomed, but there is still there huge question outstanding, isnt there, zagitova, and we heard nick gibb discussing it, saying that it was so important to get children back into schools. That process hasnt been easy so far, the government has not been able to do what it promised to do in england, to get all primary kids back before the summer holidays. Some of the issues which were issues then are still issues now. Some schools are still asking whether there are still going to be issues in september and that is why some are looking to Northern Ireland and saying, if you relax the social distancing rules, it makes it a bit easierfor distancing rules, it makes it a bit easier for us, distancing rules, it makes it a bit easierfor us, maybe we distancing rules, it makes it a bit easier for us, maybe we can get more children into classrooms than we can at the moment. As i say, broadly welcomed but still Big Questions over how the government is doing this all in england, and a reminder, it is just england, different challenges, different policies, in different parts of the uk as well. Nick eardley, thank you very much. So, nick was saying about the differences across different parts of the uk and we can illustrate that now. We have got chris page in belfast, tomos morgan is in cardiff and lorna gordon is in glasgow. On the theme of schools, chris page, there is a clear difference now with there is a clear difference now with the social distancing rule is applied to School Children from Northern Ireland, as compared to the rest of the uk . Thats right, charlie. Northern ireland is the first of the uk nations to make a significant change to the social distancing rules. Whenever schools go back, which they will hear on the 24th of august, pupils will only have to keep a distance of one metre. That reduction wont apply to adults. For example, teachers will still have to keep a distance of two metres from the children in their class. Ministers in the devolved government here in stormont say making this change will enable most pupils to go back to school on a full time basis instead of perhaps one or two days a week as had been thought. But teaching unions are sceptical, they say schools dont have that much space, and that certainly education isnt going to be going back to anything like normal after the summer holidays. So they are looking for more clarity on these guidelines. The decision made yesterday, pa rt of these guidelines. The decision made yesterday, part of a whole range of measures to ease lockdown, for example, of worship, able to take hold services again at the end of the month, beauty salons and barbers able to open on the 6th ofjuly. Seven of the last 11 days in Northern Ireland have seen no deaths related to covid 19, and yesterday there was just one new confirmed case of the virus. But the message from doctors and political leaders is that the virus hasnt gone away, so is that the virus hasnt gone away, so people need to remain extreme like cautious. Chris page in belfast, thank you very much. Of course, scotland is eating more of its lockdown restrictions today. We heard from Nicola Sturgeon yesterday. Lorna gordon, people who havent seen each other for a while can meet up, even stay over, perhaps . Yes, there is some easing of restrictions for certain groups of restrictions for certain groups of individuals here in scotland. Those who are shielding have been told they can meet outdoors with one other household as long as that is not more than eight people. Those who are living alone, as long as they are not in that shielding category, couples living apart or a single parent or a grandparent, they can form an extended household, they can form an extended household, they can stay overnight as well. But they have to choose their household and they have to stick with it. Its really a slow, incremental process here in scotland that is easing in phase two of the easing of restrictions. On monday we will see dentists are reopening, and the monday after that, shops with their owns exits and entrances outdoors can reopen, but not Shopping Mall is. Interestingly, there is no date for the expected reopening of beer gardens and cafes and restaurants, Industry Leaders say they are bitterly disappointed with that decision but the first minister Nicola Sturgeon says there is some emerging evidence that they can be hotspots for the super spreading and transmission of coronavirus. So, the first minister is seeking more scientific advice before the government here in scotland makes a decision on that. So, it is a slow, gradual easing of restrictions here in scotland. The first ministers argument is that patience will reap its rewards and lead to a more sustainable recovery in the long term. Lorna gordon, thank you very much. So lets find out the situation in wales. Tomos morgan is therefore us. We were speaking to therefore us. We were speaking to the first minister just therefore us. We were speaking to the first ministerjust a few minutes ago, and we have a timetable, this is about what is opening when . Yes, so, on monday, the first minister in his press conference said today, they will be announcing that all shops can reopen across wales. Here on the main high street in cardiff you can see they are actually putting flowers up across the shop entrances trying to make the place looked ready for people to come back to the shops on monday. But those that are opening have to maintain that to me to social distancing rule and have to make sure that social distancing can happen inside the shops, any shops that do reopen across wales. The other easing of restrictions that will happen on monday is that outdoor, noncontact sports can restart, things like tennis and any sort of athletics but people can only take part with someone from one other household, we cant have big groups of people meeting here in wales. Interestingly as well, one of the things that wont be easing here in wales is the stay local message, which is that everyone should be aiming to stay within a five mile radius where they can, in wales. That rule has come under some level of criticism here in wales by opposition parties but also from those living in rural areas across many parts in wales, saying it is just not feasible to stay within a five mile radius when things are so far away. On schools, they are due to reopen here in wales on the 29th ofjune, the majority of pupils will be going back but it will be in a staggered fashion because of that social distancing. But the easing doesnt mean that we are now coming into the next phase of the easing restrictions in wales, which is on the welsh governments traffic light system going into the amber stage now. There is always a digger or something going off in the background just when you dont need it, isnt there . Good to see you in cardiff this morning. Thank you all for your time this morning. Do you think that was a street cleaning vehicle . Probably. Government borrowing, a record monthly high has been hit. The coronavirus pandemic continues to weigh heavily on finances. The office for National Statistics had previously said aprils spending was the highest since records began in 1993, but has now revised that figure down to 48 billion making may the costliest month on record. Labours heavy loss in the last general election was the result of a toxic culture, organisational failures and the leadership ofjeremy corbyn. Thats according to a new report by the Labour Together group, which includes different wings of the party. The party lost 47 seats in december the worst election result since 1935. The Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai, who was shot in the head by the taliban in pakistan for campaigning for girls to be allowed to go to school, has just completed her degree from oxford university. Taking to twitter to share these celebration pictures, she revealed her immediate plans for the future, which include lots of netflix, reading and sleeping. And laundry, after that congratulations matt is going to have the weather shortly. Weve been remembering Dame Vera Lynn throughout todays programme, hearing tributes from friends and colleagues in the Music Industry, and her charity. But for the generation who lived through the second world war, dame vera was so much more than just a singer or a celebrity. John maguire has been talking to some of them, through six years of danger, hardship and sacrifice, the songs of vera lynn provided not just entertainment, but hope. A vital attribute among the men, such as harry billinge, who fought on d day. 22,442 fellas died on d day on normandy beach, murder it was, so i always remember that and im sure when some of these blokes died, they thought of the song well meet again or therell be bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover, because thats the sort of thing that was on your mind at the time home and she reminded you of your home and your loved ones. Fighting the war far away, whether in normandy or even further afield off the coast of japan, thoughts of home provided great solace for ken benbow of the royal navy. Ive always loved vera lynn, i used to have a little photograph of her that i had in my pocket and her songs, i used to sing them with her. Lovely. As the forces sweetheart, veras concerts boosted the morale not just of the troops fighting overseas but also of those involved in the campaign at home. Betty webb worked with the secret codebreakers at Bletchley Park as was emboldened by the singers courage and dedication. She also went out to burma and the troops there had been very much neglected in lots of ways, and when she went out, she went actually almost into the fighting line and cheered the troops up no end. Of that visit, captains sir tom moore said and those who werent at her concerts wished they were. We used to feel envious when we saw her with the troops in the desert and in different Foreign Countries where there were hundreds of them and, of course, we only had 200 on our ship that was a full ships company. We couldnt compete with the army. If ever you were down and put one of her records on, that was it it made your day. In the post war years, dame vera and her songs were always at the centre of significant commemorations. She epitomised the greatest generation. An atmosphere of hope i think is perhaps the way to put it. You know, well meet again. Regardless of everybodys situation, there was a lovely feeling of being uplifted. And that sense of hope was in the queens mind as she spoke to the nation early in the covid crisis and echoed those most famous words. We will be with our friends again, we will be with our families again, we will meet again. Well meet again, dont know where dont know when. Ill neverforget her, and i dont think anybody in my generation will forget her. Even now, youngsters today are still talking about vera lynn. And i think the more they play the records, as they will do now, thatll be more marvellous. Bringing veras voice to anyone who will want to listen marvellous they are the words that live on and provide a fitting legacy to the forces sweetheart and National Treasure Dame Vera Lynn. John maguire, bbc news. Some sunny day. Really interesting hearing the reflections of people, we heard from a lot of the veterans about what it meant then, but her impact has gone over many, many generations. Also her, though, she is a woman was quite a feisty woman, i know we are going to try to talk to her daughter, but lots of stars at the time did tours around various countries, when she was asked, where would you like to go . She said, i wa nt to would you like to go . She said, i want to go where no one has been before, she went to burma. An impressive woman. We can now talk to one of the more contemporary artists who sang with her, alfie boe. Have a listen first. So listen first. So will you please say hello, tell them i wont be long theyll be happy to know theyll be happy to know that as you saw me go that as you saw me go i that as you saw me go iwas that as you saw me go i was singing this song i was singing this song well meet again well meet again dont know when dont know when dont know where dont know where but dont know where butl dont know where but i know well meet again some sunny day. And we can talk to alfie boe now. Good morning to you, how are you this morning . Im doing well, thank you, good morning, that was lovely to hear that rendition again. You dont hear my voice during that recording, youre just zone into dame vera. Thats you being very modest, but i think both your voices melded beautifully. Can your voices melded beautifully. Can you tell us how the recording came about and how it physically happened . Yes, well, she was asked to make her album for her 100th birthday, and she put a list together of people that shed like together of people that shed like to duet with, and luckily, i was one of them. And with her being 100, she couldnt make it to the studio, so i ended up singing remotely with one of her past recordings. But it was an honour, it was such an honour. Shes a lovely lady, i a beautiful letter. I performed with her in a variety show, and when she was in the presence of everybody, when she was there, you knew that you were in the presence of an icon and a hero. Because thats what she was, she was a hero during those six years during the war, and now, shes helped us. She probably doesnt realise how much shes helped us and shes very humble with it. Its interesting because all the people we have spoken to about her say exactly that, that she took that stuff herself very lightly, even though the impact weve heard from people of different generations at the time of different generations at the time of most need have said she was such a big part of helping. But shejust saw that as something she needed to do and she went and did it. Absolutely, it was her chance to do her part during the war, and listening to those veterans talk about her with such passion and such love, it says it all, really. They put on a record, they listen to her sing well meet again, bluebirds, white cliffs 0f sing well meet again, bluebirds, white cliffs of dover, they were songs which kept the dream alive of home for them, and brought them through, she saved a lot of lives. When you hear the song, well meet again, it is so synonymous with dame vera lin, its one of those songs, and there are very few in lifetimes that resonate beyond the words, which means so much to so many people . Yeah, its a very powerful song. Those words are very powerful especially now as well. But i think when she was presented with the song, she said, i could do that really well, i could just felt that out like crazy. And once she did it for the first time, recorded it, it was a real gem. Something that she probably wouldnt realise that would last for so long, and it has become a real anthem of the united kingdom, of the world, in a way. Absolutely, alfie, its always a pleasure talking to you, thanks very much, and you do sound lovely on that as well bless you stay well and we will speak again, no doubt. Im very pleased to say. We can talk now to dame veras daughter, virginia lewis jones. Shejoins us by phone from her home in east susex. Virginia, lovely to speak to you this morning, and thank you at a time of very personal loss for you, and that is the first thing we should say to you, the nation is embracing everything that your mum did, but this is a personal loss to you and your family . Of course, absolutely. You know, especially after my father passed on, i accompanied money on so manyjaunts, if you like, and became even more involved with her and her work, although ive always been involved, obviously, you cant get away from it when youre the daughter of somebody like my mother. But it was all wonderful, it was great fun and i always enjoyed everything that we did together. And she was great fun, it was super. Virginia, can i just ask, we hearfrom lots of other people who met your mum, its interesting, so many people say, i met her once and it was really special what i would love to know from you, if youre happy to share with us, is a bit more of the personal side of your mum over the yea rs personal side of your mum over the years and how she reflected may be within the family about the impact had had . Long its very strange because as far as i can glean, her impact on the outer parts of the family, can impact on the outer parts of the family, can i say, i dont think until a few years ago they realised quite what impact she had or has and continues to have. I think that they knew it was auntie vera, or it was, you know, vera, or whatever, and she was always there as an aunt or part of the family. But it was only the last, really, the last few years, i think, maybe even 20 years, that theyve realised what an impact that she has had on the world. Its a very strange thing, really. When its your parent, you just go, oh well, its money, orwhatever, its your parent, you just go, oh well, its money, or whatever, your father, and you take it for granted. Youve always been in that particular setting and it has always been part of your life and therefore personally you dont think anything about it. But i know for a fact that one section of the family a few yea rs one section of the family a few years ago, they were at the Imperial War Museum and my second cousin said, ididnt war museum and my second cousin said, i didnt realise the standing, if you like, that my mother had at that point in time. It is naga in the studio, our thoughts are with you all. We spoke to you not so long ago, on the anniversary of the d day landings, and we were talking then about how your mum was going to celebrate, in the town where you are, the village, there were going to be celebrations, and she has always been very, very conscious of the mood of the nation, i suppose, because she also sent a message on her birthday asking the British Public to find moments of iy British Public to find moments of joy during these hard times she just got it, didnt she . Yes, she did. Ithink just got it, didnt she . Yes, she did. I think it wasjust a natural instinct that she always seemed to sound the right note, to use a phrase. It was just an instinctive thing, that she knew how to behave and what people needed at any particular time in their lives, and everybody elses life. Im just watching with her out in burma absolutely, she wasnt sassy, wasnt she . Didnt she decide to go there because no one else had been there, in terms of all the other stars . Yes, exactly. Weve got birds in the chimney, im just moving. Yes, exactly. Weve got birds in the chimney, imjust moving. Yes, exactly. She felt that they were being, well, the forgotten 14th, you know, nobody was going out, nobody was entertaining them, and they were literally forgotten 14th. And she felt that that was completely wrong and that she had to rectify that mistake, if you like. Virginia, you must have seen firsthand, its lovely seeing those pictures and its so lovely here in your response to, and you laughing, you must have seen to, and you laughing, you must have seen firsthand times when you were out with your mum and you meet people and the effect she had. I was very mindful watching through loads of those images of her songs both from many years ago and much more recently, just the instant effect she had, the smile, the impact she had, and that must have happened all the time . Yes, well, it did, because i think it was the sincerity. People pick up on whether people are sincere or not, and mummy always was. She was a bit whizzy widget, as they say in the technological world what you saw was what you got. And she was always that person. Obviously, at home, the persona was slightly different, but the actual basic feeling was still there, the sincerity was still there. She said what she thought and so, its difficult to explain, the basic feeling was still the same, although obviously, when she went out and met people, she was a little more on stage. But the actual sincerity was still there. Virginia, its been lovely speaking to you today, and once again, thank you so much for sharing what are very personal thing is for you with us this morning so we really appreciate that, thank you. Thank you so much, too, thank you. Thank you so much, too, thank you. Its really lovely, matt, i dont know if you were listening in, it is lovely, isnt it, being able to reflect on someone who had such a big impact, i dont know why im asking you really but its one of those things, isnt it, its a moment to share. Matt always listens to the interviews we do just moment to share. Matt always listens to the interviews we dojust before, and Dame Vera Lynn s death is something that none of us would want to avoid, and we know there has been an effect on this country and around the world, as alfie boe was saying earlier . Right across the generations, i think Everybody Knows her and it was lovely to hear the words of her daughter as well, definitely. Very good morning to you. We will move onto the weather now, and if you are inside and parts of england and wales, the skies will be like this, on the way later. Some people have seen a months worth of rain particularly across wales and the south west of england, where the rain is still falling at the moment. That will be working its way once again. Some heavy bursts across parts of Central Scotland will work their way northwards. A lot more cloudy than we saw yesterday. The rain in the south and south west will be moving northwards. That doesnt mean that we will see much brighter skies this afternoon across the south west of england, and it will still feel quite humid in that sunshine once it comes out. Expect some showers, even thunderstorms, from north wales, north midlands, northwards. The heaviest through the afternoon will be across north west england. The sunshine breaking through in Central Scotland but it will be cloudier in the far north, not quite as warm as it was yesterday. There could be some evening thunderstorms around southern and western parts of scotla nd southern and western parts of scotland before they fade into the night. Most areas actually becoming dry tonight. Still mild enough, with temperatures in double figures. One or two spots still in the libertines as we start the weekend. There will bea as we start the weekend. There will be a few changes this weekend. Low pressure developing out to the west, bringing through these weather fronts during saturday night into sunday. That will sweep away all the humid airthat we sunday. That will sweep away all the humid air that we have been having an introduce something a bit windy. There will be some rain on saturday night. A few showers during the day on saturday drifting in from wales towards east anglia. The odd shower across the north and east of scotla nd across the north and east of scotland but many should be dry for the bulk of the day, and very pleasa nt the bulk of the day, and very pleasant in the sunshine. We will finish the day with cloud and outbreaks of rain gathering towards the west. A wet evening across Northern Ireland. The windy weather sweeps across all parts as we go through saturday night. There will bea through saturday night. There will be a few showers later on as well. They could come with the order ramble of thunder in Northern Ireland. But it will not be as humid as it has been, and in the breeze, it will be feeling fresher. Temperatures for most of you will be in the teens. By by the time we hit mid weekly will be bringing up some warm air all the way from spain and portugal where temperatures could hit 39 celsius. Southern and eastern areas could get close to 30 degrees. How extensive that warmth will be is still open to question at this stage but it looks like some warm whether on the way for some next week. Enjoy your weekend, i will see you next week. Are we seeing you on thursday . Next thursday, i will be back. Have a good week. I like to know these things. I dont like things changing. He stayed smiling right until the end. He is still smiling, do you wa nt to ta ke end. He is still smiling, do you want to take a look . He is such a professional. The time is 8. 32. Hello this is breakfast with Charlie Stayt and naga munchetty. Primary and secondary schools in england are to get a one billion pound boost to help children catch up on months of lessons that were missed during lockdown. The government pledged that a third of that cash will go towards a special tutoring programme for pupils from the poorest homes. Critics say the plans lack detail and that nursery pupils and some over 16s have been left out. School children in Northern Ireland will only have to sit one metre apart, not two, when they return to school in august. Stormont has announced the measures to allow full classes to attend, but adults, including school staff, should still keep two metres away from each other. Guidance on how schools can operate in Northern Ireland will be published later today. We are going to catch up withjoe wicks in a moment. He has been doing a great deal of internet pe. These daily work out sessions online have gripped many since the start of lockdown. People are trying to do their every day. Did you do one . I didnt, if im honest. Joe is listening in. Good morning. Good morning, how are you doing . We are all good here. People have been getting a great deal out of what he had been doing, but you are easing off, what is going on . had been doing, but you are easing off, what is going on . I have done pe withjoe off, what is going on . I have done pe with joe for 13 off, what is going on . I have done pe withjoe for 13 weeks every day. I have loved it. But numbers are declining, we were getting 100,000 viewers a day, but some people are back at work and returning to normality. I want to keep it going, iam not normality. I want to keep it going, i am not retiring, i am going part time. I am doing monday, wednesday and saturday at nine oclock in the morning. Having a days rest in between i will have more energy and deliver a better session. You think you have had problems with energy. We will show eve ryo ne problems with energy. We will show everyone what you have been making people do. You will understand why there were a few tired people out there. Here we go. In three, two, one, coming on, lets go. Good morning, everybody and welcome back to pe withjoe. Today is a wheel of fortune special. Grrr. 210,000 were starting off with. Argh. Lunge jump. Here we go, same again. Up, one, two. To the left. And then to the right. Which of these dinosaurs could fly . Was it tyrannosaurus rex, pterodactyl, or velociraptor . Which of these dinosaurs could fly. We can speak tojoe now. I have been doing quizzes, spot the difference, today is my last fancy dressed friday. I have gone through every character you can imagine. In the past 13 weeks we have had 70 million views from people all over the world and we have raised £500,000 for the nhs as a community. It is the most important thing i have ever done and i am so thankful to everybody who took part and promoted it when i started so thank you for having me on today to talk about it. You have done every character, did you do the girl from frozen. I did the frozen elsa ice skaters. I did spider man, harry potter, i have a cupboard full of fa ncy dress potter, i have a cupboard full of fancy dress outfits. So i think in the future i will have a Massive Party with my friends. You are cutting down to three times a week and that is almost guidance, in terms of activity to remain healthy. What would you say, there has almost been this guilt during lockdown, have i learnt a new language, have i got fit, have i made the most of the lockdown . What some people are learning is take it easy on yourself as well . I have launched best to help people with their Mental Health and the sense of energy and their happiness. That is the main thing i believe what exercises for. I have kids and families exercising together for the first time. Just because i am taking two days off, i wont be idle. I will do monday, wednesday and saturday live workouts, on the other days i will be doing filming for the channel content. I will use the time to film work for the channel so you can a lwa ys work for the channel so you can always go back and do one. If you wa nt to always go back and do one. If you want to do 15 days a week, everything will be saved to the channel so there is a few hundred workouts on there. As we all know, there are some people who already we re there are some people who already were and do routinely exercise, sometimes a lot. I imagine the ones that affected you most, i dont know what content you have had with people, but it is the people trying it for the first time, or have felt a bit awkward about it in the past but have given it a shot . Yes, i have shown that working out at home can be fun and i know families all over the countries and all over the world, for the First Time Ever are exercising together. I had an amazing message from a schoolteacher yesterday he said the school has been open all the time and they have some of the biggest obesity rates in the country and every day they have done it with their kids. He said some of the children i want to go on to be teachers and personal trainers. I think for some people, this will have changed their life forever and i am really proud of that. I hope families can keep it going beyond the lockdown and they wa nt to going beyond the lockdown and they want to do it together and i think a lot of them well. Looking at the time now, 8. 40 in your house, how has it been so far, have you had brea kfast, has it been so far, have you had breakfast, have you done a work out already, what has been your routine . I have two little kids and they are upstairs. They normally wake up about 7. 15 and i give them some brea kfast about 7. 15 and i give them some breakfast and then go to the living room to do the work. I have got to do the wheel of fortune, music, spider man outfit, because i want to go out on a high with lots of music. Next week i will crack on with the new schedule. For the families that have been doing it, they have been coming back every day monday to friday. We started off with 900000 and then he went 500, 300 and for the past couple of weeks we have about 100,000, 120,000. Having the past couple of weeks we have about100,000,120,000. Having the day off it means they will miss it and come back and have a really good work out on the days we do them. And come back and have a really good workout on the days we do them. You are so workout on the days we do them. You are so energetic. However many days are so energetic. However many days a week, you have transformed the way people view exercise in lockdown, evenif people view exercise in lockdown, even if it is just to watch and not do it. Good luck with the days off and dont cram too much in, take some time to rest as well. Physically, i am fine it is more an emotional energy. I will recharge and spend time with my family. I have been on this hamster wheel for 13 weeks, nonstop. So the rest will be good for me and everybody else because the workouts will be better on those days. Enjoy your family time, nice to see you. Sensible as well. This is exercise isnt it . Like that. If i did that over, and over again, it is something, isnt it . That is the principal, better doing something than nothing. Lockdown has meant so many Different Things for so many different people. For some, they got to think, this is happening, normality isnt coming back but we will embrace the change. Cast your mind back to february when life was still relatively normal for most of us and you might recall an interview on breakfast between sally and three retired sportsmen doddie weir, rob burrow and Stephen Darby. All three are living with Motor Neurone Disease, and they spoke about their situations with great honesty and courage. As you can imagine, life under lockdown is not easy for people with mnd. But, as sally has been finding out doddie, rob and stephen remain determined to make the most of their time at home. Take a look. Hello. So good to see you. Where is he . There he is. Have to go and find their wife to press some new buttons. Good morning everybody, great to have the gang back together. Great to see you all. It is great to see you, it feels like a long time since we caught up. Very good, keeping well. Last time we met, it was in february. U nfortu nately met, it was in february. Unfortunately because of the situation i havent been up to too much. But in terms of physically as well, my hands and arms are probably a bit weaker but i am still lucky i am doing everything day to day for my independence, so keep going. Rob, what about you . It is good to hear you are happy and ican hear it is good to hear you are happy and i can hear it is difficult for you to talk, but you feel ok . What about you, big man . Not too bad, i still need a bit of help with showering, eating. But otherwise i am down on the farm. I am enjoying lockdown because it enjoyed me to have time with my family. I go out for a couple of hours a day and do normal things that maybe wasnt happening. So things are not too bad. I know all of you obviously have been shielding, so you have been more isolated probably than you ever have been before in your lives. What has that been like . My nearest job is quarter of a mile away so i have been out and about. How has lockdown being for you and your wife, stephen . You have been busy with your charity and that has been successful . Yes, it is nice to spend some time together. Especially having played professionalfootball, i have been quite busy. We havent had a chance to spend a lot of time together. We have enjoyed spending time together, slowing things down. We wa nted time together, slowing things down. We wanted to do something for the foundation and raise some money. Her and herfriends foundation and raise some money. Her and her friends wanted to do 100 kilometres in may but in the last few days it has taken off. I think in the end we had 700 people involved to raise that amount of money. With all the uncertainty going round and times were tough people, it was incredible. Rob, what about you . How people, it was incredible. Rob, what about you . How has it been for you because i know you have a busy household with Young Children, what has that been like trying to keep eve ryo ne has that been like trying to keep Everyone Entertained . What would you like the next steps to be, how do you feel about any easing of the lockdown for you and other people at mnd. easing of the lockdown for you and other people at mnd. Ijust want people to comply with the rules and regulations because it is a very serious condition, cobit. I was told by my medical team, if i go on a ventilator, the likelihood is i will never come. Fighting mnd is bad enough without having to try and ta ke enough without having to try and take on the covid. What about things like your treatments, how has that been working . It has been quite difficult, sally. It has had to be on hold. It shows the important of the mine. Stephen, i know you were really involved in treatment in the united states, what has happened with that . I have been in america and boston. Fortunately, they can do it remotely. I do have a call with the consultant over there and they are able to send the trial medication over. When this is lifted and the restrictions are eased, what is the thing you are most looking forward to doing . Who is the person you will go and hug . What about you, daddy, what are you looking forward to when you are set free . I am looking forward to going ona free . I am looking forward to going on a night out. July the 4th is my 50th. You are never . Three years ago when i was diagnosed, i never thought i would make it. That is how serious this is but lucky enough i am still here and i am going to celebrate it. Stephen, i will start with you, how important is it to have the support of these two . The support is huge. To know that they are fighting for the same things you are. Obviously i wish they were not fighting for the same thing but we are. The support is absolutely incredible. It is important we keep fighting and keep smiling. I have a positive outlook. Stay positive, stay safe and we will party when we are allowed. Lads, it is absolutely wonderful to see you all. It is great to see you. All looking so good and so mentally positive and so strong. Keeping positive and so strong. Keeping positive and so strong. Keeping positive and that we will keep in touch and we will come and see you the we are all allowed to be back together again. Take care, lads. We will party when we are allowed, i like that phrase. Watching that, it is about the camaraderie between them. But as an outsider looking in, there will be a lot of people watching that. Everybody get something out of that because in adversity, the way people are responding is amazing. All three of them shielding and still such good friends. The scottish medical director knows doddy very well. What they represent, the positive attitude when it comes to shielding, when it comes to medical care during lockdown, these are all things, you asa lockdown, these are all things, you as a National Clinical director would have to be mindful about . As a National Clinical director would have to be mindful abounm is the tip of the spear, to use a cliche. They are everything this pandemic is about. They are about protecting them from the virus, as well as other vulnerable individuals in the community. But they are also about the existing disease. These quys about the existing disease. These guys have a really, really serious and fatal disease that they need help with. They need physiotherapy, drug therapy and you can be absolutely certain in scotland that doddie weir has direct access to the National Clinical director. Not everybody has that. We have known each other for everybody has that. We have known each otherfor a everybody has that. We have known each other for a little while now and he is always like that, exactly what you have seen. He is positive, he is engaging, he wants solutions and challenges. He comes to meetings about mnd with, this is what we should do. He is a joy to be around. I have had the Great Fortune of meeting doddie at various functions, he isa meeting doddie at various functions, he is a great bundle of energy. How is it voices for all conditions and charities, charities are depleted, do have the ability, i suppose, to speak to someone like you or your department because ultimately there is an inevitability that covid 19 ta kes is an inevitability that covid 19 takes over everything and pushes everything aside. We have heard it when it comes to Cancer Treatment . It is absolutely true. One of my jobs during this pandemic and even before the pandemic, as well as this public face you see and i have been on here a few times, i had spent a lot of time with the stakeholder groups. Idid lot of time with the stakeholder groups. I did a question and answer with some footballers. A cancer question and answer the week before. Not that i have special knowledge, but to try and hear from them and to try and engage them into how we move out of this pandemic, how the route map will work for those individual diseases. Both accessing the nhs and social care, but also doing it in a safe way and hearing those voices is absolutely crucial. I did a chronic pain one this week with people who suffer badly from pain. Some of that has had to be paused. It is important that i and politicians here from that community. Jason, this morning one of the newspaper reports we picked up on today was lockdown making feeling more lonely and more isolated. I think four intent feel more lonely since lockdown and a third say they havent had a meaningful conversation. It was interesting hearing Nicola Sturgeon, the first minister, talking about a relaxation of some of the measures and those who are shielding like doddie and the guys we heard from, those who are shielding will now have different opportunities to at least interact. How important was that announcement . It was crucial. It was first on my bullet point list in my advice. I am concerned about the shielded group. In scotland it is over 170,000 people with two things going on. One, they have something making them ill, so they usually have a disease, an organ transplant, chemotherapy, severe mnd. But then we add on top of this, this horrific Infectious Disease which has infected at least 8 Million People globally. So they have really had a tough time. So even little steps like we have done today, so they can now see another family outdoors physically distanced. That would be terrific for these people but it is just the beginning. We are celebrating the fact you can have anotherfamily celebrating the fact you can have another family in your back garden or in the park. It is a pretty low bar we have created, because of this infection. I look forward to the day when i can tell that shielded group that it when i can tell that shielded group thatitis when i can tell that shielded group that it is over, they can go back to their normal lives and the Health Service is a fully open. But we have got to do that gradually. What is interesting about that, you look forward to the day saying this is over, but it is a question we have asked government ministers here when the rules for england have been changed, what has changed in terms of vulnerability for those who have been shielding . What is changed today compared to when those restrictions are lifted, compared to three weeks ago . They are still vulnerable with the conditions you have outlined and that will feed into theirfears, i imagine for many, who are thinking, why on earth ami many, who are thinking, why on earth am i all of many, who are thinking, why on earth amiallofa many, who are thinking, why on earth am i all of a sudden safe . Two things have not changed and one things have not changed and one thing that has. Two things that hasnt changed, is the virus itself. It is still nasty and fatal to some individuals and the vulnerability of these communities havent changed. There is some nuance, as we learn more. Some diseases become more risky and some become less. We are slightly more worried about diabetes and obesity and we were two months ago and slightly less worried about some others. The thing that has changed is because of the behaviour of the uk population, the prevalence of the uk population, the prevalence of the uk population, the prevalence of the disease is much lower. Even since the last time we spoke. So the number of new infections across the four countries is now lower. It has not gone away and there are still too many people with it. We still have 600 people in hospital with this disease in scotland and around 15 to 20 in intensive care. Families are grieving today because of covid debt yesterday. I dont want to underestimate the challenge, but it is much better than it was. Therefore we can make choices about meeting families, about sport, by construction and about the shielded group. It allows you to use the headroom to start opening up society. Interesting, Northern Ireland today with school saying with children, the way it will work to get children back into the classroom, they socially distance by one metre but the adults in the school, that remains at two metres. How would you grapple with that when it comes to advice now moving forward in scotland . It comes to advice now moving forward in scotland . It is an important question. I think the distance thing is very important. But it has taken on an iconic status, it doesnt fully deserve. The way to protect the population is to do lots of things. Distance, hand washing, covid etiquette, but the distance is important. What hasnt changed is the distance is still important, the risk, the relative risk of a metre versus two, versus four miles is of course important. We have decided, a bit like england, we have decided to look at that again over the next couple of weeks and that will work into our prevalence, the Science Behind the distance and the different sectors. It may be education in Northern Ireland does it that way, but they dont do that in shops. They do it for non shielded people so there are nuancesin for non shielded people so there are nuances in there. Scotland will take a view, we will give some advice and the first minister and the deputy first minister, who is the education secretary, will take a view. Our schools are not scheduled to open, although my wife is a teacher, schools have been open and lots of people have been working very hard. But fully open, all the schools on the 11th of august. We have time to work out what that will look like. 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