so there is an immediate crisis here and it is dangerous and full of misinformation and rumour. and munich seems a long way away. and munich seems a long way away. and paul munich seems a long way away. and paul, 'ust munich seems a long way away. and paul. just to — munich seems a long way away. and paul, just to pick up on this, it is an interesting point and perhaps one that we forget a lot for those not in ukraine, this is an enormous country that part of it was taken by force, annexed and is now no longer part of ukraine. and although the west and the nato countries protested, they accepted it. they effectively accepted that crimea is no longer part of ukraine but part of russia even though ukraine wants it back and you have these disputed regions in the east. all that must really kind of explain some of the perhaps scepticism that exists in kyiv and among other ukrainians about whether when push comes to