alliance rule out ukraine becoming a member. our correspondent in kyiv, james waterhouse, explained the background to mr macron's comments. this is part of quite a sizeable diplomatic effort that is being staged in ukraine this week. today, there are fourforeign staged in ukraine this week. today, there are four foreign ministers arriving for talks with the government. president mccrone will arrive tomorrow, he is in a confident mood and says there is the chance of a deal that could avoid a full—scale war. he is the second world leader oblong with the turkish president to see themselves as a mediator in this crisis, to bring russia and the west and ukraine together in some kind of agreement. ukraine was open to previous proposals, it will be open to the suggestion as well but those demands you mention, this will always be the rub. russia does not want ukraine to everjoint nato and for the alliance to scale back its military