called the laughing revolutionary, it's almost impossible to imagine him without seeing that big mink smile. i him without seeing that big mink smile. .., ., ., him without seeing that big mink smile. .. ., ., ., , him without seeing that big mink smile. ., ., ., , ., smile. i can add that when he was on a bi smile. i can add that when he was on a his human — smile. i can add that when he was on a big human rights _ smile. i can add that when he was on a big human rights conference - smile. i can add that when he was on a big human rights conference in - a big human rights conference in stockholm with me, he didn't get the response you wanted from the audience and he would be teachers and ministers and nobles there, and he said, oh, iforgot, i'm in sweden, maybe if i make you honorary south africans, then you can start cheering and people started laughing and ministers started cheering and so on, and that is the engagement that he can get you in and that is how you communicate things through, he was a true brilliant man. you how you communicate things through, he was a true brilliant man.— he was a true brilliant man. you sum that u- so he was a true brilliant man. you sum that up so beautifully, _ he was a true brilliant man. you sum that up so beautifully, thank - he was a true brilliant man. you sum that up so beautifully, thank you - he was a true brilliant man. you sum that up so beautifully, thank you so i that up so beautifully, thank you so much. i'm so glad we could talk to you properly in the end. thank you for your time. you properly in the end. thank you for your time-— for your time. thank you so much, thank you — for your time. thank you so much, thank you for— for your time. thank you so much, thank you for having _ for your time. thank you so much, thank you for having me. - the former bbc radio presenter janice long has died following a short illness. she was best known as a presenter