what they call severe economic consequences if russia were to invade, but they have not been specific about that at the moment and one of the issues that is being debated here in liverpool is what should those severe economic conditions be? one example is the issue of this big new pipeline which is being laid between russia and germany to provide a huge amount of gas. if that were to be shut down, that would certainly hit russia hard, but it would also hit euro's economy, too, so those are the kinds of trade—offs that the g7 foreign ministers are trying to grapple with today so they can get the issue right of deterring russia but also being credible at the same time. time for a look at the weather, we definitely need the christmas lights out and about, what a dreary day. it is turning milder, but with it, a lot of cloud and rain, really