it percolates through to every level because it infuses in each of the citizens of the country as well as those obviously at levels at which they're managing property, overseeing property, constructing property, refurbishing property. if at the back of their minds, almost as an unconscious layer within their thinking, is, "that's all right, we don't need to bother about fire safety," i'll be specific, "because we have," if you like, "a licence from those who govern that actually we've got to in a sense do away with it" because, well, the burning of the bonfires, however you want to describe it, that is the licence,