survivability rate of 32%. we're going to lose more people tomorrow to heart attacks than we are to covid. we're not counting people hit by cars, kids hit by cars, trauma, shootings, stabbing, we're not even counting those, and all those patients will be waiting as well. it's worth highlighting for those viewers watching, in the united states, firefighters often attend medical emergencies and that's why you're talking about heart attacks as being an issue. can you explain, why are some of your members unwilling to get vaccinated? well, 70% of my members have already been infected with covid, and they feel that they have natural immunity. a lot of them have no need, they feel, to get the vaccine. i truly understand that some studies have shown that the vaccine protection is better, but you have to understand that to be a new york city firefighter you're basically young and healthy and if you've already lived through this you expect to have the same outcome if you get this again. now, you also have to take into account, everyone says what about the other person?