in terms of what we can expect, this is not actually the start of the trial, so this is a proforma hearing which is required to keep them in detention for longer. we are expecting the prosecution probably to give an indication of how their investigation is going. we are likely to hear from the defence, too, any of their wishes. these two men have been kept in restrictive custody since they were arrested. they were detained within an hour of peter r de vries being shot, just after he came out of that studio in central amsterdam. these two men, one of them is 21 years old, his name is delano g, only the first name under dutch law. he is from rotterdam and another man, who is 35 years old originally from poland is suspected of driving the getaway car. we are expecting the court to be packed. it's going to be a very difficult day, especially for the friends and family but also for the country, that's really having to deal