experience, and also a proper understanding of those groups in society that are particularly excluded. so the recognition in the report that there needs to be a proper data collection so we can understand which are the types of women who are less likely to come forward and less likely to receive help, and therefore more likely to be targeted by perpetrators. harriet, that is the second time you have mentioned that point in terms of how sophisticated this issue actually is, the complexity of it. do you believe that the people who need to make these changes are speaking to the right people to make sure they get it right? i speaking to the right people to make sure they get it right?— sure they get it right? i mean, the difficulty we _ sure they get it right? i mean, the difficulty we see, _ sure they get it right? i mean, the difficulty we see, for _ sure they get it right? i mean, the difficulty we see, for example, - sure they get it right? i mean, the difficulty we see, for example, is i difficulty we see, for example, is that often police just say, well, difficulty we see, for example, is that often policejust say, well, we were called round to a domestic, they see a partnership, a man and a woman, who are both, you know, make