from absolutely extortionate bills. but that would mean more tax payer money going into the social care system and it looks like ministers have decided that an increase in national insurance contributions, both by employees and employers, is the way to do that. now, details of the way to do that. now, details of the negotiations between government departments has been coming out in drips and straps over the last couple of months, actually. but because of the absence of an actual concrete proposal, that means the field has been kind of left open to the critics to get their arguments in first. so you get quite a lot of tory mps saying national insurance is the wrong tax because it is paid by people of working age and once you get to state pension age, you don't pay national insurance any more, even though it is quite likely you might be the one benefiting from the care spending when you are that age and you get some conservatives, including some in the cabinet, who say this would be a clear breach of conservative manifesto and —— at the last election. but we are starting to see people in the government making the case for the change and