rugby, learning to accustom yourself to the way of life here in new zealand but now 20 years on and looking at that journey we have been on i wouldn't trade it for anything else. let me ask you then, given that the evacuation from kabul airport at least is an opportunity about to disappear, we got to be realistic about it, what would you expect or what would you want from western governments in particular who have been so involved in afghanistan over the last two decades? there are so many things that we could say about how incredibly botched this evacuation procedure was, to see that so many allies, people who fought on the front lines in any capacity with international allies, including australian and new zealand defence forces who have been left behind, it is tragic, it is heartbreaking and to see those images... they gave their life and their service and they should be commended for it. in terms of what the international community can do, here in new zealand and australia and of course in the uk as well, that august 31 deadline is approaching