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week. i think like 125,000 in scotla nd week. i think like 125,000 in scotland and many more in the uk and wales and england. let us go on to the telegraph because of course for a—level students and higher students, there will be looking to get into their chosen universities. university places held up of her stu d e nts university places held up of her students contesting grades. do we know for how long though these places are going to be kept open? the suggestion is that pupils and places will be held open while pupils carry out on appeal. so it is not an indefinite thing. it is to allow the process of an appeal to ta ke allow the process of an appeal to take place and so if you do not achieve your predicted grades, the idea is that the university that offered you a place based on those would hold open that place while you go through the appeals process. but the process itself is quite complicated and the traditional syste m complicated and the traditional system of appealing grace is not being continued this year. it is more about schools appealing on behalf of peoples rather than individuals. so i'm not quite sure how that will work in practice. i mean essentially we have 70,000 people about to get results this week. —— 750,000. so itjust seems like this may be utter chaos if we have got a repeat of what happened in scotland. one's heart goes out to all these kids because this is one of the most important stages of their further education. and also thought and i read somewhere that if they did to spew or challenge the grades they could actually see the physical exam at some stage but presumably the universities cannot keep this place is open into the new year. there are so many decisions to be made for young people during this crisis about whether they defer for a year as well because obviously some universities have said that it is all going to be virtual and you don't want to miss out on that university experience. and then to what extent to appeal your grades when they have been unfair and just a really difficult much more so than usual process and already a really stressful process as it is during the crisis it is much worse. let's go to the left of that story and the other big story on a lot of papers is contact razors to knock on doors so is contact razors to knock on doors so the world beating track and trace system that borisjohnson promised and announced has become much more localised. they have found some real problems with actually making it work because the call centres here or calling people up to say you may have been in close contact with somebody with coronavirus. i find it difficult to actually get people to answer the phones because it flashes numbers ina answer the phones because it flashes numbers in a 0300 number which makes you will think it is a cold call. so the reverting to good old—fashioned shoe leather and axing the call ce ntre shoe leather and axing the call centre jobs and replacing it with people going out and knocking on doors and say you will have to suffice and lay in a been in contact with somebody. it is embarrassing for the government and its 6000 handlers who have been trained although there has been a lot of chrism about the sort of training they have had have been taken off that role which miserably means they have been laid off. yes, they have been asked and the writing was on the wall from the beginning of this whole process. the fact that these outsourcing firms have terrible track records of what they have already done for government. you can just see that this new stories over the last five or ten years of them making serious mistakes that has cost government a lot of money actually. and you could just look at the situation and say what the government not see that this was going to happen clearly and why they did not use local public health things in the first place, which people were recommending. and now they have woken up to the fact that maybe these contacts need to be dealt with by local people who know their patch instead of people who we re their patch instead of people who were being paid to watch netflix apparently. they are making so few calls, it is very embarrassing and a huge waste of money. same splash for the daily mail as the liquor nhs scheme axes a third of its call handlers and radical shake—up. scheme axes a third of its call handlers and radicalshake—up. i don't think there is more to say on that much story relate so let's go on to the metro. which has got something different in the first timei something different in the first time i have seen this, anti—mask mob mock shoppers. where this happened and what happened ? mock shoppers. where this happened and what happened? they went into a supermarket in london and were mocking shoppers for wearing masks and it is part of the anti—mask movement. and obviously there has beena movement. and obviously there has been a enormous debate around the rise and roll of mask wearing and honestly at the start of this the world health organisation were quite liberal on the benefits of wearing masks and obviously our government said the scientists were also very mixed which is wiped initially we we re mixed which is wiped initially we were not advised to wear masks. i think that possibly has cost the relu cta nce think that possibly has cost the reluctance among the people to wear them because they feel that perhaps them because they feel that perhaps the science is not really there but there was quite a divide and so often there is in our community at the moment between people who are pro—mask and those who are anti—mask. and other side willing back down. we are not seeing the same divisions perhaps as we are in the us over here yet but if this goes on for a long time, presumably these are gaps which are going to open up and faster, especially if we have more lockdowns. it does seem like for some they are trying to turn this into a kind of culture war issue. i mean i did find it interesting that i had a couple of friends who have come over from new york recently, and they are utterly shocked at how casual everyone is in london about wearing masks. so many in the streets not wearing them actually and then a new york it is so actually and then a new york it is so much more serious because they we re so much more serious because they were so so much more serious because they were so badly hit. did you point out to them what was happening in texas and other us states? of course, yeah. new york is very different to a lot of those other places in the us and there are these huge divisions and different approaches they are taking there. but hopefully we will not see that here. let's hope. and, sam, what do you think? because boris johnson hope. and, sam, what do you think? because borisjohnson and the government always said that they trusted in the british sense of fair play and cohesive society and doing things for the common good. there is a risk i suppose after the dominic cummings episode which changed a few peoples minds certainly in the longer this goes on people will start to challenge what has at times been a pretty chaotic mixed message. i think there is a real problem for the government coming up or perhaps we are already in that and that rules now are quite complicated. we have obviously got local lockdowns where restrictions can differ from where restrictions can differfrgug . ,. fl one to the where restrictions can differfrgug . ,. fl one - to the next. we are seeing

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