they are worried that their children and grandchildren can't get on the housing ladder, something we've always taken for granted in this country. if you work hard and get a job, at some point in your late 20s, early 30s, you should be able to get a house and start a family. that's not happening, sol a house and start a family. that's not happening, so i think keir starmer... not happening, so i think keir starmer- - -_ not happening, so i think keir starmer... �*, ., ., starmer. .. there's a two-tier system develo - inc starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if— starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if you've _ starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if you've got _ starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if you've got the - starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if you've got the bank - starmer. .. there's a two-tier system developing if you've got the bank of i developing if you've got the bank of mum and dad, and mum and dad even with this mortgage guarantee scheme, they can give you the deposit, you can get on the latter. but so many people who don't have that have no chance of getting there. i did housina chance of getting there. i did housing and _ chance of getting there. i did housing and government when i was a special— housing and government when i was a special adviser, and a lot of what labour— special adviser, and a lot of what labour is — special adviser, and a lot of what labour is saying is a continuation of what _ labour is saying is a continuation of what the — labour is saying is a continuation of what the conservatives have done. so a big _ of what the conservatives have done. so a big part — of what the conservatives have done. so a big part of what they've said is a big _ so a big part of what they've said is a big michael gove pledge, making places— is a big michael gove pledge, making places that are beautiful. you are absolutely — places that are beautiful. you are absolutely right, that deposit peace, — absolutely right, that deposit peace, what you're doing in terms of having _ peace, what you're doing in terms of having the _ peace, what you're doing in terms of having the capital from the beginning is required. back in 2010, there was— beginning is required. back in 2010, there was help to buy a under george