some news about the role the unions have played in today's debate around the manifesto, but are you hearing? just a quick recap for anyone joining us, labour has been holding this big meeting today in secret, clause five, this formal process where the manifesto is formally adopted into the party and its union backers. it's a very secretive meeting, you have to have numbered copies of the documents, phones handed in, they don't want things getting out. but we understand in the last few minutes that one of labour's biggest backers, a major donor to the labour party, is not endorsing the labour manifesto. now we understand this is over concerns about the party's position specifically on one of its commitments in cerner workers' rights, so of course we will hear more about it but we've heard for a long time now that labour plans as big package of reforms to give workers more rights in employment. there's been a bit of back—and—forth between labour and some of the trade