do you mind just telling the story of when you first met donald trump? you know, i don't really understand him. i'm always going to meet on behalf of our foundation with the us president. you know, the us president controls the biggest aid budget in the world and so, one of the things i went into that meeting saying was, "hey, let's, during "your term as president, you know, find a cure for hiv. "let's pick some high—impact science goals for the world." none of that ever came to pass, but i don't feel bad that i tried. what do you make of the fact that he's running for president again? um... you know, i hope that we can move on to new republican candidates who are more forward—looking, more believing in election integrity. but my prediction on politics are not uniquely good. my understanding of science and picking scientists and, you know, funding