Down on these things. But if irans political leaders are prepared to help a more secure, more stable, more inclusive iraq and syria, we should welcome their engagement. Let me give way to my honorable friend. Clearly there is one given the consent from the Iraqi Government. But can you confirm there is the responsibility to protect from genocide, which is on the table, and capable of application . My honorable friend is actually right. There are a variety of legal arguments that can be deployed. In this case, it couldnt be clearer were acting at the request of a sovereign state, and if we were to act in syria, i believe that would be the legal basis, too. Collective selfdefense against isil that threatens iraq. But hes absolutely right. And ive said this in the house before. That it is a legal base if you are averting a humanitarian catastrophe, that you can act. And let me be clear again. Even though were right having this debate and vote, if there was a moment when it looked as if there could be an urgent humanitarian need for intervention, i would be prepared to order that and come to the house and explain why. Mr. Speaker, let me explain. We have a comprehensive strategy from action. We have a clear request from the Iraqi Government. We have a clear basis in international law. We have a substantial International Coalition, including many arab partners and we need to act in our own national interest. I believe in answering the question about whether this is morally right. It is morally right that we now move to a new phase of action by asking our armed forces to take part in International Air strikes against isil in iraq and i believe we should do so now. Let me give way to my honorable friend. Grateful to the Prime Minister in giving way. Muslims around the world made it clear this is nothing to do with islam. Its an evil organization. Linked to that very point, has there been discussions with the 57 members of the oic, the organization of the islamic corporation, which represents muslim states, to see if many more of those islamic countries will be joining this International Coalition along with the five arab states to ensure its a wider, broader coalition that has the most effective outcome. Well, all of these conversations were taking place this week at the u. N. General assembly week, and i think its one of the most important things that can happen, is muslim governments, islamic countries across the world coming out and condemning isil and explaining that this is not a bunch of people acting on behalf of a religion. It is a bunch of psychopaths who have perverted a religion and it is not being done in their name. Let me address very briefly, and then ill take some more interventions, what i believe a successful outcome would look like. We would want to see a stable iraq and over time, a stable syria, too. We want to see isil degraded and then destroyed as a serious terrorist force. But let me be frank, we should not expect this to happen quickly. The hallmarks of this campaign will be patience and persistence, not shock and awe. Were not deploying british combat troops, but we are providing air power in support of local forces on the ground. No british or western troops will occupy iraq. And there are many other elements that will be needed for longterm success, many of which ive set out very clearly at this dispatch box today. Let me give way to the honorable member. Hes talked about the International Coalition. But the peshmerga fighters have taken a lot of the brunt of fighting isil. Can you assure us that all the parties within iraq also support this intervention, in particular the kurdish Political Leadership . What i can be clear about is having spoken to the kurdish leaders in iraq and having spoken to the iraqi Prime Minister, theyve both been frank that they want our help. Theyve both said very clearly we do not want british combat troops on the ground, but we do need the arms, we do need the ability to defeat this murderous, terrorist organization, and we are helping in exactly the way they would like us to help. Let me give way to the former Northern Ireland minister. I also think in the end we have to deal with isil in syria as welch but did he say if there was an urgent humanitarian need, he would take the action and then get subsequent support from the house . Surely, it would be the other way around. No, no, no. To be absolutely clear, the gentleman heard me first the right time around. If there was the need to take urgent action to prevent, for instance, the massacre of a Minority Community or a Christian Community and britain could act to prevent that humanitarian catastrophe, if i believed we could effectively act and do that, what im saying is that i would order that and come straight to the house and explain afterwards. I think the convention that has grown up in recent years that the house of commons is properly consulted and a proper vote is a good convention and i think its particularly apt when there is, as there is today, a proposal for, as it were, premeditated military action. But i think its important to reserve the right that if there was a critical British National interest at stake, or if there was the need to act to prevent humanitarian catastrophe, then you could act immediately and explain to the house of commons afterwards. Im being very frank about this because i dont want to mislead anybody. Let me give way to the honorable gentleman first. I thank the Prime Minister and it is very good this this house debates before action happens. Hes often said there will be no boots on the ground. This motion is very carefully worded slightly differently. Can he confirm whether or not he is asking the house to allow any presence of uk military personnel in iraq and if so, in what roles . The reason for choosing the words combat troops is very important, because, of course, when we were, for instance, contemplating putting in helicopters to evacuate the yazidi people from mount sinjar, that would have involved British Forces being in an area of iraq where the servicing and the efforts and helping those helicopters, so it would have involved british personnel. So that is why we talk about british combat troops. I think we should be very clear about that. Let me give way to the honorable gentleman from birmingham. Im Going Forward to the Prime Minister, whether or not we are militarily involved in syria, there is no doubt that fighting in syria has been and is intensifying. Now, that will mean that the humanitarian crisis that has already been unfolding in syria will also intensify. Theres been over 650 major impact strikes on aloeppo, for example, since friday. What preparations are being made for that . Because the current arrangements need to be stepped up and who is the Prime Minister in the International Community cooperating with to ensure that that aid gets in . I think the honorable gentleman raises an important point. We have been providing more aid acrossborder. And were working with all the international partners, as youd expect, including this week increasing a contribution to make sure that happens. I want to make some progress with my speech. What ive said, what ive required is a Syrian Government that represents all its people, but i want to be frank with the house. Even after isil has been dealt with, we should be in no doubt that future british Prime Ministers and future British Governments i suspect will be standing at this dispatch box dealing with this issue of islamist extremism for many years to come. Isil has sprung up quickly, but around the world, we see the mayhem caused by other groups. Whether that is boko haram in nigeria, al shabab in somalia, al qaeda in yemen. We are dealing here with a generational struggle caused by the perversion of one of the worlds great religions islam. But i have no doubt that this struggle is one which this house and country is more than equal to. I give way to the honorable gentleman. I thank the Prime Minister for giving way. You may well need to use Ground Forces at the end of the day, and it does take time to train the iraqi army. If that were the case, would the Prime Minister come back to the house . Ive said it will come back to the house if, for instance, we make the decision that we should be taking air action with others in syria. But im not contemplating the use of british combat forces. But i think it would be the wrong thing to do. I think the lesson to learn from previous conflicts is we should play the most appropriate role for us. It is for the Iraqi Government, for an iraqi army to defeat isil in iraq, and indeed, in time i hope, it is for a proper, legitimate Syrian Government to defeat isil in syria, where we should be helping is with the aid, with the diplomacy, with the political pressure, and yes, with our unique military assets where they can help. But as part of a comprehensive strategy, not going over the heads of local people, not ignoring the regional powers, learning the lessons from the past, that is what this debate is about, that is what this motion is about, and that is why i believe were taking the right steps. Would you agree with me, the very careful wording of the motion before the house today is carefully done to make sure that we get support for it . We accept that hamstrings the government. Is it on place for leadership and statesmanship rather than Popular Support of the house . We needs support on the country, but do we really need a vote on that . What i would say to my honorable friend is we live in a robust democracy where this house of commons frequently demands and wants, quite rightly in my view, to see ministers setting out as ive just done. I think theres now accepted convention that if theres going to be premeditated action, the house of commons should be consulted in advance. Ive set out where i think there are gaps in that convention and i think that probably has all parties support. Im going to take two more interventions, then ill complete my speech. The honorable lady here. I thank the Prime Minister. He has rightly talked about defeating isil militarily and politically including with help in the region. Could he Say Something about how we need to also defeat them finally, which countries are supporting isil, including by purchasing oil, and what is the British Government and others going to do about it. I think the honorable lady is absolutely spoton with this point. There are a number of things we need to do. First of all, action at the u. N. , which has now been taken to cut off the financial flows to isil. We need to take action to tell the world that isil, supposedly the enemy of assad, is actually selling oil to assad and making millions of pounds about it. American air strikes have already dealt with some of the socalled mobile Oil Refineries that isil have been using to raise funds. But clearly theres more that needs to be done to persuade those that in the past might have backed organizations like isil, because they were seen as a sunni arab organization, that they made a terrible mistake and they should not do it again. That was very much what was being discussed around the table at the u. N. Security council and an issue i would support. Im going to take one more intervention. I thank the Prime Minister for giving way. I was going to raise the point about making sure that we can cut off funding to isil. But could he expand a little bit more on that in terms of what is going on in terms of the International Pressure to make sure funding is squeezed on isil . Because at the end of the day, this is a wellfunded organization currently, and by squeezing off the funding, were going to make sure they cant operate the way theyve been doing until now. My friend is right. Part of the reason theyve got hold of so much funding is because they have the oil and also in some of the towns they took in northern iraq, they simply took the money out of the bank. So its going to be a longterm squeeze that has to be put on in this case. Let me give way finally to my honorable friend. I thank the Prime Minister for giving way. Does he agree that if we are serious about tackling jihadi terrorism in the middle east, we must take a much, much tougher line with some key allies, including saudi arabia, qatar, kuwait, which have been fueling and funding terrorism for decades and continue to do so. What i say to my honorable friend is i think we need to have this very direct conversation with everyone in the middle east, which is the dangers of this sectarianism of supporting groups because theyre sunni or because theyre shia. That is part of the background that has led us to this problem, and we need everyone to recognize whatever branch of islam they are from that terrorism breeds further extremism and terrorism, and in the end, comes back and damages their own countries and their own societies. Now, mr. Speaker, it is inevitable that the shadow of the united kingdoms lastminute involvement in iraq hangs heavy over this chamber today. The situation we face today is very different. We are acting in response to a direct appeal from the sovereign government of iraq to help deal with this mortal terrorist threat. Its a threat to iraq, and a threat to britain. Were not acting alone, but as part of an International Coalition of 60 countries, many of them from the region, and all of them committed to rolling back isil, however long and difficult that task might be. Mr. Speaker, this is not 2003. But we must not use past mistakes as an excuse for indifference or inaction. We will play our part in destroying these evil extremists. We will support our muslim friends around the world as they reclaim their re religion. And once again, our inspirational armed forces will put themselves in harms way to keep our people and our country safe. I pay tribute to their extraordinary bravery and service and i commend this motion to the house. The question is the motion on iraq, coalition against isil. Mr. Ed miliband. Mr. Speaker, i rise to support the government motion concerning military action against isil in iraq. And it is right that the Prime Minister has brought this issue to the house and that he has committed that he will bring future decisions to the house, too. Mr. Speaker, let me start by saying that all of us, whatever side of this debate we are on, will be conducting it with huge admiration for the bravery, spirit, and the duty displayed by our armed forces who act on the decisions that this house makes. Let us be clear, mr. Speaker, at the outset what is the proposition today. It is about air strikes against isil in iraq. It is not about Ground Troops from the united kingdom. Nor about uk military action elsewhere. It is a mission specifically aimed at isil. Mr. Speaker, let me say as we debate this issue today, i understand the qualms and for some deep unease there will be about this undertaking, both in the house and indeed in the country. Those who advocate military action today have to persuade members of the house not just that isil is an evil organization, but that it is we, britain, who should take military action in iraq. I want to do so by setting out the particular nature of the isil threat. Secondly, the criteria we should apply to judging the case for military action. And thirdly, i want to Say Something about the role of our country in the world, which for me is directly relevant to this decision. Ill give way. Let me also clarify labours position with regard to politics. Many of us are concerned theres no clear exit strategy militarily. But what about the politics and the sense that theres no point actually military intervention if the politics is not right, and it isnt, many of those that served under al maliki are still in place. Many sunnis still feel alienated. And without having the hearts and minds policy right, military intervention will not be endu enduring. I understand the honorable gentlemans longheld caution on these issues. I think the point i will make in these remarks is there needs to be a comprehensive strategy. Were not talking about a militaryonly solution here. It is about political action, humanitarian action, and wider strategic action. Ill come on to that later in my remarks. So first, mr. Speaker, i want to Say Something about the nature of isil. As the Prime Minister said, isil is not simply another terrorist organization. Weve seen, of course, its hostage taking of innocent british citizens. I will in a moment. And its not just british citizens that isil are threatening. Christians, yazidis, fellow muslims, sunni and shia from many Different Countries and backgrounds. Anyone, mr. Speaker, who does not subscribe to their deeply perverted ideology will you give way . I will in a moment. I want to just, if the house will allow me, give one hideous example recently given by Amnesty International that is directly relevant of the decisions today. On the morning of the 15th of august, isil separated men and boys from women and younger children. The men were then driven away to different nearby locations, where they were shot and killed. The women and the children of the village were abducted and continue to be held by isil. Mr. Speaker, lets be clear about what this is. Isil is murdering muslims so to those who say that military action against isil is somehow an attack on islam, let me just say this. I understand the anxiety, but the truth is entirely different, and it is muslims themselves who are saying it. Leading british scholars wrote this recently, and i quote they, isil, are perpetrating the worst crimes against humanity. It is a war against all humanity. So, mr. Speaker, isils ideology has nothing to do with the peaceful religion practiced by people across the world, billions of people across the world, and by millions of our fellow citizens who are appalled by their actions. I give way. Im very grateful to the opposition who mentioned the hostages. David haines was brought up in perth. To the people of perth, david haines is simply a hero, and the more we find out about his remarkable life, the more were appalled by his brutal murder. Im sure the leader of the opposition and the Prime Minister were to join them and congratulate them in their efforts. I think the honorable gentleman spoke with great eloquence on this issue and it tells us all we need to know. That they would take hostage people who simply exist to try and help the innocent victims of conflict all around the world. I give way. Im grateful to the honorable gentleman for giving way and his support this time for the government motion for intervention. Given what he has said about the horrors of isil, if it is necessary to come back to this house and have another motion to intervene in syria, will he support that motion . Look, i do want to deal with this very directly, if the house will give me permission and just be very clear about this. Look, we will obviously consider any further proposition if the Prime Minister so chooses to come back with it. Let me say three issues that concern me about the difference between iraq and syria. First of all, there is a question of legitimacy. Now, there is a strong argument about the legal base for action in syria under article 51. The point ive been making in the last few days is in my view when were not talking about being invited in by democratic state, it would be better to seek a u. N. Security council resolution. Now, why . Because this is the highest Multilateral Institution of the world, and therefore, it would be better to seek authorization on the basis of that. The second the other two issues that are in play here in relation to syria are, one, the question of Ground Forces, because as a number of honorable members have made the point that we cant defeat isil by air power alone. But in the case of iraq, it is the iraqi army and the kurds who can conduct those operations. This is an outstanding question about who will perform that function in syria, and thirdly, as the Prime Minister himself made reference to, there isnt a big outstanding question about the overall outcome we are seeking in syria. And personally, the Prime Minister said there is a Clear Strategy and plan in relation to that. I think a lot more work needs to be done on what exactly the route map is. Those are the particular issues i raise in relation to syria. I want to make some progress with my argument, mr. Speaker, if the house will allow me. Isil is not simply a murderous organization. The Prime Minister said it has ambitions for a state of its own, a caliphate across the middle east run according to their horrific norms and values. Thats why i believe establishing in the first part of my remarks we cannot simply stand by against the threat of isil. But as i said in reference to the honorable gentleman, in acting against them, we need to learn about the past, and we should be clear about this with the british people. That means a comprehensive strategy. Crucially rooted in the region. Some of this work is under way, but i believe much more needs to be done. But there is a reality. That is why we are meeting today. In the second part of my remarks, so make the case for military action by the uk, i want to return to the criteria ive previously set out, criteria which learned from the past and judged with the military action could be justified. First, mr. Speaker, in any action we take, there must be just cause. I believe that isil does establish just cause, on humanitarian grounds that ive set out, and on grounds of national interest. On this point, the International Instability that will be created by undermining a potential overthrow of the democratic iraqi state would clearly have implications for the stability of the region and therefore implications for us, and our national interest. Second, military action must always be a last resort. I believe this criterion is met. Isil have shown they are not an organization that could or should be negotiated with. Third, there must be a clear legal base to provide legitimacy and legal force to our actions. I support this motion today because we are responding for a request from the democratic iraqi state and this is recognized in the u. N. Charter. In the case of iraq, as someone who voted against the war in iraq on march 18th, 2003, we bear a particular responsibility for subsequent events, and forever particular responsibility towards the government and people of iraq . I think my friend has an important point here. Our intervention means we should not intervene in this case. I think there is actually a heightened responsibility for us precisely because we did interverne in iraq, and with all kinds of implications, the iraqi state that has emerged is partly our responsibility. I will give way. Does he agree with me that this government has a moral obligation to help the iraqi people in their hour of need, an obligation which like the deficit, this government did not create but this governments got to deal with . I think if i may say so, the honorable gentleman did himself no credit with that intervention. Let me turn to the fourth test, mr. Speaker. We must believe, and this is important, mr. Speaker, but this is the hardest test of all and we need to level with the house about this. We must believe there is a reasonable prospect of success before we take the aggressive step of committing our forces. And we should be clear with the house about this. Honey, are you ok . crying shes being so nice. Id prefer you didnt watch these when youre pregnant. Sweetie. Could it be im falling in love. in an english accent with your pea coat and your stomping around with your bobbies. Is the audition to play a portuguese guy . No, british. You are really going for it. Eyes are muscles too. With the best screen of any tablet, the new Samsung Galaxy tab s is the worlds most entertaining device. Get it now at samsung. Com. In westminster ahead of a vote on britain joining in air strikes against Islamic State targets in iraq. Is this not sure that even the space of a year, the consequences were unforeseen and the commitment shouldnt be openended but under scrutiny from this house. I think it is incredibly important that on this occasion as we seek the wrunity of the house, we do everything we can to make that happen. The proposition last year was about chemical weapons in relation to president assad. Chemical weapons have been dealt with by chemical weapons of assad have been dealt with by other channels. Of course the situation in syria remains very, very dire. I believe we made the right decision last summer. But i think today is about trying to get the whole house supporting this motion. Im very grateful to my very humble friend. Does he recall that fairly recently, the International Community, including this house, was condemned for tolerating genocide in rwanda, and then tolerating genocide in sudan, and today, given the evidence of genocide particularly against the kurds in iraq, no wonder the british people are in support, not just of him, but of the motion before the house . I think my old friend speaks incredibly powerfully, and those examples are examples where many of us will feel that there was a case for intervention, which was not taken up. And these decisions are always incredibly difficult. But if we can help innocent people who are under threat of persecution, i think it is right to do so. I give way. My very humble friend is absolutely right in supporting this motion, but could i press him on what he called a row, and how its perceived by people outside . This approach to International Conflicts expresses concern amongst many people who have just seen thousands of innocent palestinians murdered while we stood on the sidelines. So can he commit to the house to show the same commitment and resources, to get a satisfactory conclusion . Well, i agree with my honorable friend in the sense that it is right we speak out on these issues and it is right we ed miliband, leader of the opposition labour party, putting forward his case for air strikes against i. S. Targets in iraq, following on from David Cameron in the parliamentary debate here in central london, which will go on for some considerable time yet before a vote is taken. Clearly overwhelming support within the house for taking that path. Joining me from westminster, our World Affairs correspondent rob watson, whos been listening in. I wouldnt say theres nothing to draw between the two leaders, and perhaps issues on how to tackle syria, maybe some clear idea as to the arguments for and against, but no question as to which way the votes going. Absolutely not. The three main parties, the leadership, and most of the nps, for which is a fairly limited action that the uk is contemplating in iraq. Only six aircraft involved. I dont know how much of a chance youve had to see it, david, but i think in many ways this debate is Britains Parliament at its best and you get a real flavor of whats beginning on. The Prime Minister trying to make the case for intervention. Similarly ed miliband, that isis is a threat that just wont go away. Its not something that you can ignore. Its something that were going to have, as they would put it, a proportionate response. But also a flavor from the floor of the house of the kind of concerns that people have about military intervention, such as how long would it go on, any danger of british troops on the ground, is the Iraqi Government really able to provide a proper alternative to Islamic State. So a really good sense of the kind of concerns that there are and of course, as far as the government is concerned, the opposition the case for making action. Its worth pointing out also, rob, that it is important for parliamentarians to have their say. I think David Cameron made it clear this could be a decision taken regardless of parliament, but the practice over the course of the last decade now has become to address parliament first. Absolutely. No legal requirement for David Cameron to do this. But utterly unthinkable, particularly in the light of the 2003 invasion of iraq, that any government could go ahead without at least having had a debate in parliament, and lets face it, david, a solid vote in support of the action. So absolutely that is the case. He didnt need to come here. Unthinkable to do it without support. The debate goes on ahead of the vote itself. Lets just catch up now on what David Cameron, the Prime Minister had to say a little bit earlier. In the space of a few months, isil has taken control of territory, which is greater than the size of britain, and is making millions selling oil to the assad regime. It has already attacked lebanon and boasts of its designs right up to the turkish border. This is not a threat on the far side of the world. Left unchecked, we will face a terrorist caliphate on the shoers of t shores of the mediterranean, with a clear determination to attack our country and our people. This is not the stuff of fantasy, it is happening in front of us and we need to face up to it. Next, is there a clear, comprehensive plan . Yes. It starts at home with tough, uncompromising action to prevent attacks and hunt down those who are planning them. As the house knows, we are introducing new powers. These include strengthening our ability to seize passports and to stop suspects traveling. It includes stripping British Nationality and ensuring air lists comply with our nofly lists. As ive said before, that means defeating the poisonous ideology of islamist extremism by tackling all forms of extremism, not just the nonviolent extremists. Not just the violent extremists. We are prescribing organizations that incite terrorism and stopping people from inciting hatred in our schools, universities, and prisons. Of course, some will say that any action you take will further radicalize young people. I have to say this is a cancel of despair. The threat of radicalization is already here. Young people have left our country to go and fight with these extremists. We must take action at home, but we must also have a comprehensive strategy to defeat these extremists abroad. David cameron there. That debate taking place amidst many developments within the region itself. Indeed, Security Experts have been saying that many foreigners, not just from britain, have been joining the i. S. Group. The eus counterterrorism coordinator told the bbcs Duncan Crawford that the number of europeans now fighting in syria has risen dramatically in the last few months. The numbers are impressive. Its not completely accurate, but we are probably about 3,000, and it is huge and unprecedented. I remember earlier on this year, the figure then was around 2,000. And over the space of a few months over the summer, its gone up to 3,000 now. So, i mean, why has there been such a huge rise in that short space of time . I think its a steady draw. I wouldnt say its just a boom. Its steady growth. And the statement of the administration of the caliphate may have played a role. I think if you believe in this, probably you want to be part of it as early as possible and not arrive late. So i think it did play a role. The u. S. Is conducting air strikes. Britain potentially might launch air strikes. Will that lead to a reaction from Islamic State, from other jihadi groups who want to lash out to try and launch an attack on european souls . Does that raise the chance of that happening . I think we have to acknowledge that it will. That was clear with the french, because three days ago, the isil issued a statement saying they would be there would be retaliation against the members of the coalition. A frenchman was kidnapped in nigeria, he has been beheaded. So in a way, sadly enough, they did what they announced. So i think the country is being part of this coalition will have to take some measures to protect the citizens and assess the risk indeed. But there is not only the isil. You have al qaeda, and maybe the rise of isil may prompt al qaeda to do something to show that it is still relevant. The eus coordinator on counterterrorism measures. Weve got more analysis of the conflict on our website, including more on those foreign fighters within the ranks of the Islamic State group. And you can also get a breakdown of exactly where these fighters, about 10,000 of them in all, are coming from. Bbc. Com news. Well, france is among the coalition of 50 nations which have been carrying out operations against i. S. Targets in iraq. Its yet to decide whether to send its war planes over syria as well. Back home, flags are flying at halfmast for three days. This follows the murder in algeria by jihadists of an abducted frenchman herve gourdel. Insurgents were demanding france should end its operations in the region, but the president Francois Hollande has pledged what he called for determination, composure and vigilance in the face of jihadist threats. In paris, users of the metro have been telling the bbc about their views of using public transport. I mean, generally, i feel quite safe in metro and theres quite a lot of Police Presence that you generally see. In particular, people Walking Around with guns. The security officers. So i mean generally i feel quite safe. I dont think so. Most of the parisian people are used to it. We have been facing a couple of attacks in the past, and we know our government and security people are doing their utmost, so i dont think people are really nervous. People are working in paris, so we have no time to be nervous about terrorism. Sometimes we are afraid. All of my friends who are talking about this. And then just this morning, i have my friend who called me that there is a warning for terrorism. I dont know whats happening in france. I dont know what we have to be scared. Okay, it happens everywhere. If youre scared every day when you take the subway, then youre scared all the time. We worry a lot about whats next, what happens next. Like were taking the metro every day, and we know that terrorists specifically designed paris as a target. And so many people in the metro, we dont know how to we hope that the government and our politicians will take all the measures to this problem. I havent noticed anything special. Everything is business as usual. Thats how you say it . And im not afraid. And if something happens, i mean, it has to happen, and i have no other means of transportation, so i take the metro every day. Breaking news with regard to the coalition of countries prepared to fight against Islamic State, because were just hearing that denmark has added its name to the list of that coalition and will be sending seven f16s into operation. Thats as much as weve got at the moment. Well bring more to you, of course, when it cops in to us. And do stay with us. Well have more from westminster as well as the debate here in london continues. To attain succ, one must project success. Thats why we use fedex one rate. Their flat rate shipping. Exactly. It makes us look topnotch but we know its affordable. [ garage door opening ] [ sighs ] honey, havent i asked you to please use the we dont have a reception entrance. [ male announcer ] ship a pak via Fedex Express saver® for as low as 7. 50. Hello. Youre watching bbc world news with me, david eads. The latest headlines. David cameron has told parliament that britains armed forces should join in armed air strikes in iraq. A vote will take place a little later in the day. Lets get on to one of the biggest events of the sporting calendar. Its now well under way. The ryder cup Golf Tournament taking place at glen eagles in scotland, europe versus the usa, with europe hoping to hold on to the ryder cup itself. Kathy is there, how is it going . Reporter its quite difficult conditions for the players, actually. Incredibly windy. Quite chilly as well. But its fairly even at the moment. On the leaderboard, we have two sections of blue and two sections of red. The blue section is for the europe team. The red section is for the american team. So one point has already been won. Thats been won by europe. Justin rose and henrik stenson, they won by five and four, so the first point has gone to europe. An impressive steady performance by them over bubba watson and webb simpson of the united states. Europe are up in the next match as well, which is Martin Kaymer with thomas bjorn, the dane, and they are playing y ining jimmy and rickie fowler. But the players that have really impressed everybody here are the two young americans, Jordan Spieth and patrick reid. They are now five up, playing against ian poulter, who is supposed to be the big player for the europe team. Hes playing alongside a rookie Steven Gallagher from scotland. They havent been playing well and the americans have been absolutely fantastic. The youngest american pairing in ryder cup history storming through. Theyre five up. Theyve only got a few holes left, so that match probably will finish quite soon, and then the Big Box Office game is between rory mcilroy and Sergio Garcia against Phil Mickelson and keegan bradley. That was looking like it was going to be incredibly close, but the americans are now two up in that. So the leaderboard is mixed, its split. Half blue, half red at the moment, and it is looking like being an Excellent First day. This is the four balls competition. This afternoon, we will have the foursomes competition. At the moment, its where everyone takes a shot with the ball. In the afternoon, we have a session where they take ultimate shots. That keeps going for saturday. And then sunday, we have the singles. An awful long way to go in this, and at the moment, its fairly even. We wouldnt have it any other way. Thank you very much. First a spice girl, then the wife of a famous footballer, and more recently a fashion designer. What more can Victoria Beckham do, you might ask . Shes just been named a u. N. Good will ambassador for the organizations aids campaign. She says she was inspired to help after what she called a lifechanging visit to an hiv clinic in south africa. I have a responsibility as woman, as a mother, i have a voice that people will listen to, and im taking that responsibility very seriously. This is the beginning of an incredible journey for me. Im not going to sit here and pretend to know everything right now. I dont. Im learning. I have people mentoring me. Im going back to south africa in a few weeks, and then further afield next year. And i want to do whatever i can do. I would do anything for my children, and i think every woman out there has the right to health, and every woman has the right to give her children a healthy future. Victoria beckham there. Heres a wacky one. If youre feeling under the weather, you could see a doctor, you might take some medicine. Maybe what you really need is a poem. Deborah almer calls herself the emergency poet. She travels around the uk and prescribes poetry to those in need. She told us how her treatment works. What im going to do is ask you a few questions if thats okay. At the end of that, ill prescribe you a poem. There was once an old woman called deb who had a crazy idea in her head. So youre happy now to hear peoples ills without giving pills. And then give them poems instead. So take poems once a day. Shed love this. My names deborah almer, and i am an emergency poet. I started doing this about three years ago. I had an idea of doing creative writing classes in the back of a mini bus, and when i was looking for a mini bus on ebay, i saw an balance and i thought ahha, emergency poetry, and the thing straight away came to me. What happens in a consultation process, it sounds very grand, is that i invite them into the back of the balance. Ill ask them to sit down on the stretcher, and thenally ask them a few questions. And do you have a particular condition that youre aware of that requires poetic attention . More relaxation. So take poems as often as necessary. At the end of them, ill handpick them a poem that i think theyll like. My patients are from age 4, where they can share a poem with a parent, to 100. Everybody and anybody. And i think thats the key thing for me. Most people that come into the back of the balance havent read poetry since they were school and they were put off, and i believe theres a poem that they will like. Thank you very much. Take care. Bye. I thought she was fantastic. Really, really enjoyed it. Just like youd enjoy a friend. Maybe its for you to cope or help or support your sister struggling with that . Thats a good idea. Okay. I think the poetry talks intimately as though from one person to another. It touches people really closely and deals with really intimate things. The world asks of us only the strength we have and we give it, and it asks more and we give it. Thats beautiful. Sorry. Thats all right. Its lovely. Its good to cry. Yes, it is indeed. People have always loved it. They go out in back of the balance feeling uplifted and really positive about the whole thing. Thank you. What a lovely experience. Oh, thank you. They really seem to enjoy it, didnt they . Interesting way to deal with your ailments. I want to take you back to westminster to the debate taking place in the house of commons on whether the uk should join in air strikes against Islamic State militants in iraq. This is peter haim on his feet at the moment. Could possibly even realign middle east politics, the bitter and violently corrosive shia fault line. An even bigger task, but an immensely valuable one. Mr. Kenneth clark. Mr. Speaker, i dont think theres any significant controversy about the moral and legal case for what is proposed. In five minutes, i wont set them out. The world will be a better place if isis was destroyed and britain would be a safer country, without doubt. I do think the legal case for intervention in iraq is clear with the government inviting us. I think its pretty clear in syria, because of the genocide and the humanitarian disasters being inflicted on that country. And i do agree that its artificial to divide the two problems. The site pico line is a theoretical line on the map now and theres absolutely no doubt that isis has to be defeated in both countries. Given that one of the principles of counterinsurgency is to deny the enemy a home base, isnt it absolutely essentially that we back the american efforts in syria . Otherwise we will never defeat them in iraq. For people to suggest that we cant go to syria is actually tying our hands behind our backs. I agree with my honorable friend. President obama has been quite open that he is going to the alliance were joining is going to launch attacks on isis in both syria and iraq. And it is quite, you know, unrealistic to proceed on any other basis. So the real debate, which i briefly would like to contribute to, which i think is the only issue for the vast majority of people in this house and the vast majority of our constituents is where are we going, what is the longterm purpose, what is the strategy, how is our foreign policy, politics, and our diplomacy going to be better on this occasion than its been for the last 15 years . The disaster of past occasions is not that we attacked present regimes. We attacked evil men when we attacked hussein, when we got rid of gadhafi, when we attacked al qaeda in afghanistan, and we would have been if wed attacked assads Nuclear Chemical installations last year. This is no going back. I supported two of those, libya and syria last year, and i was dubious about one of the others, and i opposed iraq. That isnt the point. What happened was, in all those cases, that the military deployment produced a situation at least as bad as it had been before, and actually largely worse. We did not create i have no time, im sorry. We did not create extremist jihadism. We did not create these fanatic fundamentalist pressures, but we made things worse and made it easier for them to spread by some of our interventions. So we all agree we must not repeat that. We need to be reassured. And i congratulate my friend the Prime Minister on his speech, where actually he spent a very great deal of his time trying to reassure, and im left with the feeling that certainly i should support this motion because some of our best allies are taking part in this intervention. But i still think were at the early stages of working out exactly where were going. And i do think that our almost symbolic participation in these military attacks, six aircraft and our intelligence are no doubt valuable to our allies, but were symbolically joining with them. The main hope i have is it gives us a positive influence on the diplomacy and the unfolding politics that have to take place to try to get together a game. Well, one of the more venerable members of the house of commons ken clark, conservative, part of the gov n governing why they should join the coalition of nations to fight against i. S. Militants, particularly for the uk in iraq, and as that debate goes on, we also hear from denmark that theyve joined that coalition and are sending f16s into iraq. Thanks for being with us. A 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about . Foreign markets. Asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. You know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. If you convert 4quarter p e of the s p 500, its yield is doing a lot better. If youve had to become your own investment expert, maybe its time for bny mellon, a different kind of wealth manager. And black swans are unpredictable. Onthree awards, well thats a different story. The audi a3. Now available in tdi clean diesel. Hello, and welcome to gmt on bbc world news. Our top stories, britain is poised to join the military assault on Islamic State extremists. A parliamentary vote in favor of air strikes in iraq is expected within hours. As british mps continue to debate a new military commitment in iraq, the americans backed by arab allies have continued to hit i. S. Targets in syria. David cameron says i. S. Threatens the world. Left unchecked,