There's a grave the commission proposes compensation of at least $45000000000.00 for the worst affected regions the police and military in Cameroon have used tear gas and live ammunition to break up opposition protests in the city of Daraa and the capital Yaounde day there are reports that an opposition politician Celestin German and a prominent lawyer Michel doggy are in hospital getting treatment after being shot the protests were called by the c.r.m. Party whose candidate in last October's presidential elections alleged widespread fraud donations to fund a new search for the light plane the disappeared 5 days ago with an English Premiership footballer on board have reached $200000.00 the Argentine striker I mean Leon Osama was flying from his old club nonce to join Cardiff City when his plane vanished from radar over the sea between France and England the search was called off on Thursday b.b.c. News. It's 806 g.m.t. Listening to the news room on the b.b.c. World Service with me Valerie Saunderson And we begin in Brazil's state where emergency workers are working around the clock to try to find survivors from a dime that's collapsed they're digging through piles of sludge to uncover any evidence of almost 300 missing employees so far nearly 50 people have been found alive 11 bodies recovered 2 as the rescue continues hundreds of frantic relatives desperate for news have mounted a vigil and it's about our sons our husbands our brother in law no one town has anything 300 people are dead and no one tells us anything. Where our parents the fathers the mothers that went to work earlier today no one tells us nothing I mean where is my dad where is my dad I don't know you but let's go straight to the scene of the rescue operation and to our correspondent who's there Julia kind narrow and Julia describe this scene to us this incredible sludgy a mud that they're having to try to work through to find people. Well it's a very complicated rescue operation because huge area was devastated by this very thick sludge residue from Iran or extraction and. This whole area it's impossible to navigate through normally the firefighters there depending on how a copters mostly ground work is very slow because they can't really walk in the areas the mud is still very soft but it's believed that many bodies are buried under that mud so the challenge is finding those people and retrieving finding survivors or retrieving their bodies in safety and of course is a matter of healing Exidy Valerie I'm here at the center a school that's been set up as an information center. For families of victims and big crowds here lots of people gathered waiting for any piece of information with the names of their loved ones there's a list of the people who are missing people queuing up to look at the lists lots of people had huddled together within their families crying we paying sometimes angry calling out to authorities here so it's just it's quite a devastating scene and unfortunately the prospects are quite grim We have had some good news just earlier of firefighters have to rescue 45 people who had been accounted as missing so at least some of those names. Were crossed from the list of people missing and. The number however is still very large and there should be a very big. Human toll from this tragedy and when people are pulled even alive I mean they're in pretty bad shape aren't they you can see that from the television pictures the coverage in March. Yeah very dramatic rescue operations of some lucky people who managed to be rescued by helicopters completely covered in mud totally slippery being pulled by firefighters into a helicopter but. These were. Fewer numbers and the numbers of people who are still missing are much bigger. Around 300 or even more so as the helicopters hovered over here the city of providing the rescue operations continue it's just started to rain a bit so hopefully that won't get in the way. And the prosecutor general of Brazil who has just arrived here at the center where the families are gathered and she's here to ensure she's she's offering assurances that there will be very serious inquiry based investigation uncovered what happened in find out who was to blame and to prosecute the assimilated said she considers that it was it wasn't just one person to blame there were probably many different people. And these people have to be brought to justice so we can hear the helicopters overhead there in Brazil that was an era it's a conflict that's already lasted for 17 years but could there finally be a deal that sees all u.s. Troops being pulled out of Afghanistan Well the u.s. Special envoy is on the Hill that is to travel to Kabul for consultations with the Afghan government after reportedly reaching an outline agreement with the Taliban talks in Kashmir I spoke to a son a Sufi from our past of Severus Taliban have always said that they were they will only agree to a peace deal if all international forces were to be withdrawn from the country they would not accept anything out because the see it as a why have we fought for so long if you start around so yes they will draw but but they will have to think about a time frame if they are to have interrupted Iraq Afghanistan is a very violent country there are opposing sides to the peace deal there are people who have to be convinced including women including minorities. Reading. Ethnic groups who were not don't have a positive memory from the Taliban regime because they were very harsh to them and their treatments so Afghans have to be convinced Afghans of different walks of life have to be convinced that this is a good day and the Taliban have changed since then since they were in power that will take a cop a comparatively longer period than than most Afghans expect but also the would draw would not be drastic because you cannot fight an insurgency and then decide to pull out let's say in a month or 2 so there are there has to be a timeframe and at the moment at the media and other analysts they're talking about 18 months timeframe for the withdrawal from the date that they sign a peace deal so that is unconfirmed we don't have anything confirmed yet but we'll have to wait and see. He won 3 Oscars for his musical skills during a career that spanned 5 decades the French composer has died in Paris at the age of 861 of the country's best known composers of popular music scores for more than $200.00 films and for many stage shows arts correspondent Vincent died reports. Michelle Grant was a prolific writer of songs and film schools perhaps the best known song came from his 1st international hit the 964 French musical the power to share. The film and its follow up the rush for were in part tributes to Hollywood as a composer Michel Legrand straddled the French and American tradition. His own father had also been a well known composer who left the family Michelle's childhood was miserable until he discovered the piano this piano saved me I was listening to the radio to the songs that I heard on radio and then after that at 3 years old tried to find the Major do you know on the keyboard that I just heard. From the 1960 s. Michelle the Grant wrote hits which began life on film such as the windmills of your mind from the Thomas Crown Affair he wrote schools as varied as for the Bond adventure never say never again and Barbra Streisand's Yentl which one like draw one of his 3 Oscars he had a busy career in the recording studio and in concert playing and singing his own material a super Herb jazz pianist Michel look wrong had one of the most varied careers ever in French popular music. Music has died at the age of $86.00 You're listening to the b.b.c. World Service Still to come here on the newsroom and you play examines how almost all of Denmark's Jews were saved while under Nazi occupation if it is important for us to learn from history about what can happen when a country has one saves an entire group of people that's coming up later but 1st he has the headlines this hour the United States and the Taliban say significant progress has been made towards ending America's longest war a draft deal is understood to cover the withdrawal of u.s. Troops from Afghanistan. Almost 50 people have been rescued after a dam collapsed at a Brazilian mine and Washington has urged the United Nations to recognize one why do is a legitimate president of Venezuela yet it's not only the United States that's been pushing for the recognition of that is when the Venezuelan opposition leader the u.n. Security Council has been discussing the situation there one consequence of the crisis is that millions of Venezuelans have fled the country our correspondent Allan bull is on the Venezuelan Colombian border and he's been asking people whether the u.s. Move is helping them. They recognize that it is but in some senses they've been made more apprehensive because of that because they don't know how they're present because how there is going to react to that is going to act in an angry way in a deadly way we've already seen people killed in protests is it going to spiral even further out of control that while other people are leaving at the point they just don't know what is going to come next and a lot of them we welcome outside involvement they want anything to change the horrendous humanitarian conditions in why we're so difficult just to get food to get medicine it's just a lot of them have mistrust particularly throughout the u.s. But other countries as well as the what the motives are. But nobody I have met at all as yet of all of the people that we spoke to in the last 24 hours who feels this somehow is the end of their problems they feel the thing if anything may get worse if they are to ever get better but they don't feel that this is going to be resolved in the in the coming days a lot of the people coming out of Venezuela or of course the people who are opposed to work with there or oppose the current president and who do have sympathies with the opposition so they do feel that anything that gives the opposition strength is a good thing. They don't necessarily all fail but the u.s. Backing the man is going to do that because of course then the president can use that and say this is all a plan by the u.s. So the opposition leader. Is essentially an American agent and so it might actually not help his cause the feeling generally is that something has happened nobody has a solution here are of what how that does happen in terms of international involvement and as I say they really can't see a situation where they're going to be able to go back to Venezuela soon which is the dream of a lot of others who are feeling at the moment they don't want to leave their country forever they want to be able to go back but a lot of them cover Emotional have been last throes of having friends behind feeling that they were going to see them again for a very long time the name Will d.n.a. Technology and the mapping of the genetic code has changed health care around the world so far it's drawn data from people who are ill but now the National Health Service here in Britain is drawing up plans to allow healthy people in England to pay to know more about their genes NEWSROOM's Terry can tell you more this follows the launch of the 100000 genomes project it was started in 2012 and it's already seen thousands of genetic blueprint sequenced from n.h.s. Patients with cancers and red diseases now that data is being stored is to benefit the 85000 people who've already contributed their d.n.a. And it will assist medical research but under these plans even healthy people will be able to pay to get a report of their genetic blueprint but customers would have to share their anonymized genetic data with the project and the rule College of G.P.'s says this has a great potential to help develop treatments that will benefit everybody but the main difference is this is healthy people yeah there are concerns because of their. The British society for genetic medicine for instance says that this will appeal mainly to the worried well people with money who are concerned about the future who are concerned about what might be in store for them and a lot of these people they say think that the tests will either find a high risk or no risk but that isn't actually the case the predictions are not actually certain they can find things that are either not important or not really understood and basically leave people confused or distressed rather than reassured Also there is no word as it stands on when this will happen how much it will cost or how much support there will be for those who are told that they're at risk of developing serious illnesses Terry even and you play that tells the story of the mass exodus of Jews from Denmark while the country was under Nazi occupation Jewing World War 2 has opened in London Rosenbaum's rescue examines how almost all of Denmark's Jews were saved as Rana doubled reports the play is set in 2001 following an historic election that's all right leaning parties become a double force in Parliament for the 1st time. In winter 20012 Danish men whose lives were deeply affected by World War 2 come together with their families to celebrate Hanukkah it's an important time in Danish politics nearly elected prime minister as for speaking has been busy delivering on his campaign promises to integration just after an election that's all right leaning parties hold an outright majority in parliament for the 1st time refugees immigration and integration the right wing Danish People's Party as the 2 men have vastly different interpretations of history in particular how was it that around 95 percent of Denmark's Jews were safely evacuated during the country's Nazi occupation. Abraham an observant Jew believes the transfer by individual fishing boats of 7500 Jews to Sweden was the result of divine intervention and the tremendous brave compassion of the Danish people it's his view that even King Christian the 10th or the yellow star to support the Jewish population this painting the king of. Jordan we traverse elves to help us sleep better at night it's not true I thought the Jews were ordered to wear the yellow star but when the King came out wearing one of his Everybody started wearing one suit the whole of Copenhagen was a sea even yellow stars you couldn't tell. It's an amazing story and it's just that the story didn't Charlie made up story not entirely and sorry the Danish Jews will never forced to wear the yellow star Lars a historian is seeking to prove that the Jewish rescue could not have succeeded without German complicity Rosenbaum's rescue is inspired by playwright Alex Bowden Sefi is grandparents and story of escape is a story about immigrants and how they were treated in 1943 and how a nation rose up and saved them I think it's relevant today it's important for us to also learn from history about what happened when when our country as one saves an entire group of people plays an examination of history asking if anything is ever black and white or whether a more profound truth is found in a 1000 Grays it also raises the question of whether today's Danish government with some of its anti immigrant rhetoric would show the same compassion to its minority Muslims. Phone doubled and Julie has some other stories from our news desk at least 10 people were injured when a crowd in Iraqi Kurdistan stormed a Turkish military camp they said lied to tanks and buildings in protested recent Turkish airstrikes which is said to have killed at least 6 people and correct conducts frequent raids against the Turkish Kurdish militant group the p.k. K. Which has headquarters on the Iraqi side of the border a group of writers and intellectuals have denounced the growing use of English words in France they've directed their protests especially leave Perry the country's leading bookfair Mr Pickel explains. To be could only be cool is that French or English lawyers say the signatories it's Globish a limited vocabulary English that's insidiously making inroads into France and its cultural institutions not even the high profile little about the 6 they say the government must stop funding events that unnecessarily replace as much as one French word with an English one the Us man who helped save a woman's life by performing c.p.r. Has said his technique was inspired by the sitcom The Office cross Scott of Arizona said that after finding a woman locked in her car not breathing he recalled a scene from the Us version of the program in which a Red Cross instructor says c.p.r. Should be performed to the Chuen of the Bee Gees song Staying Alive Scott got the woman breathing again and she was taken to hospital. No Premier League football today because it's the f.a. Cup force run weekend sports world's mass for joins us on The Newsroom and Mazza no problems for much of the city today indeed they are playing in one of the all primary ties of the day they beat Burnley just as they did in the 3rd round of the f.a. Cup last season 5 now with the school today 5 different scores the Manchester City as well the scoreline suggests it was very comfortable for say Bernie did have a great chance like to make it 11 at the start of the 2nd half which would perhaps have made things a little bit more competitive so much the city still going well in 4 competitions in the primary title race of course the European champions make the final of the League Cup and now the 5th round of the f.a. Cup as well let's head now from Manchester City's manager Pep Guardiola the lights were on when I heard a lot you know were like that over my career and hokum it so personally thermal one . And want to do when we have been is always difficult but we are well and we are next next next with others were wounded I'm asked what about other Premier League teams not come to the mall Newcastle for instance beat into you know at home by what fits in another or primarily Brighton will then need to reply against Championship side West Brom that match finished Nuno as well wolves they were losing to know at Shrewsbury with 15 minutes to play Shrewsbury they play in League One That's the 3rd tale of English football to Lagos the 2nd in the 3rd minute of injury time to take the match to a replay so I'm surprised they knew as bitter sometimes their manager was very relieved it was a game of was a very emotional dramatic finish I think a good effort in the part of the boys that we really knew everything and we were able to to draw. The game they fight which was important so. Happy because I feel for that in the cards on the end we deserved we deserve this. Result. Making the drool for the 5th round that will be made on Monday night as well life must must for to keep not remember this. Nearly 10 years after the pups age of Michael Jackson died and those in charge of his estate have this huge a statement condemning a new documentary that centers on allegations that the singer was involved in the sexual abuse of children with museums Peter Gulf and is with me now tell us more about this film and indeed these allegations Well Valerie Michael Jackson faced a number of allegations over the latter part of his career that he had sexually abused children at his Neverland Ranch he even went to trial over one of these allegations and was acquitted in 2005 and of course he died in 2009 but now there's a new documentary called leaving Neverland that just premiered at the Sundance Film Festival and it features the stories of 2 men Wade Robson and James safe Chuck who say Michael Jackson abused them when they were children here's a clip of Wade Robson speaking with t.m.c. Earlier this week it's beyond my. I can't change what happened to me what I can now try to make small and so really for me it's about awareness towards you know helping survivors. And what is Michael Jackson's estate saying about the film and Peta Well basically they're saying that Wade Robson and James safe Chuck are both making up their stories of abuse in order to get a financial payout from the estate they point out that both men launched lawsuits in 2013 and 14 respectively alleging that Jackson had abused them and both suits were actually thrown out of court the state also points out that Wade Robson had testified at Jackson's trial in 2005 that Jackson had never done anything inappropriate with him the problem is the statement released. By the Jackson State leaves out some very important details because yes the men's lawsuits were both thrown out but they were thrown out on technicalities and Robson says he was pushing his memories of the abuse down anyway all in all this is the sort of reaction that I think the film makers were expecting could end up being a positive for them put it off or thank you you've been listening to the news room here on the b.b.c. World Service that's it from us. This is the b.b.c. World Service where the heart and soul gathering is in Jerusalem the bride and groom stand. Along with their parents the bride circles her husband to be. The blessings begin and they both drink for. The ceremony only when the green stamps down to break a glass as the guests shout muscle. It's a centuries old tradition joining a Jewish couple in marriage but now many young Israelis are saying that religion has too big an influence and want to break the hold of Robin a treehouse of it all travel as has almost daily lives others feel that the rules protect the identity and values of both the Jewish faith and the Jewish state I'm Tim Fox and I'll be in Jerusalem to discuss marriage in Israel the heart and soul gathering at b.b.c. World Service dot com. On this week's cultural frontline our true crime podcast making detectives of us all Bangladesh to talk with Gambia in Africa and Canada and they discuss leads and bring their theories maybe that appeals to the detective inside all of us we find out our podcast is sparking new investigations of forgotten crimes on the cultural front line after the latest B.B.C.'s. B.b.c. News that Julie Candler the United States and the Taliban say significant progress has been made towards ending 17 years of conflict in Afghanistan speaking after 6 days of talks in Qatar the u.s. Special envoy said despite some outstanding issues advances had been made in vital areas you're now travel to Kabul for consultations with the Afghan government Taliban sources say a deal would include withdrawal of all foreign forces in return for Taliban assurances that Afghanistan won't be used as a base for jihadist attacks the emergency services in Brazil have rescued almost 50 people from the sludge that engulfed an iron ore mine after the collapse of a dam on Friday but officials in minuscule Cherise states say the chances of finding more survivors are slim 11 people are now confirmed dead and almost $300.00 still unaccounted for president but also not over as vowed to take all necessary measures to punish those responsible and prevent a similar tragedy from reoccurring the United States has urged the u.n. Security Council to recognize the opposition politician one guy doe as the legitimate president of Venezuela but Russia has accused Washington of trying to mount a coup against President Nicolas Maduro President Trump says negotiations with the Democratic Party over the budget will start immediately the bipartisan deal announced on Friday reopens the government for just 3 weeks. Germany's coal Commission has recommended closing all the country's coal fired power stations by 2038 The commission said the equivalent of 24 lignite and anthracite plants should also be shot by 2022 demonstrators again clashed with police in France on the 11th consecutive weekend of protests by the yellow vest movement against the rising cost of living police used water cannon and tear gas in Paris to push back stone throwers b.b.c. News. Hello I'm David Healy and this is the program that explores the world we live in and through the work on the voices of artists Welcome to the cultural frontline today we're investigating the world of crime in fact and in fiction with storytellers from Lagos to Copenhagen He's been called the godfather of scam lean War The Daily Show I just saw in spy story tells us what makes the perfect crime thriller you have to have your heart with with you when you're right you have to have empathy for the characters you can't write about violence if it's just in a cliche said that superficial and it's not important so I don't set out to to write about sadistic things I write about stories about people and emotions and how do you have heard of Lagos why are we go through a list seeking with the Nigerian crime writer a deadly murder mystery and how to write the perfect crime story that's all coming up on this week's cultural frontline So stay with us. If you're a fan of podcasts you've probably heard of serial the American true crime podcast that made detectives of all of us when it launched back in 2014 the groundbreaking investigation into the conviction of an American high school student for the murder of his ex-girlfriend became a runaway hate am glad to calls for a retrial of the case almost 5 years on headphone friendly tales of True Crime have spread beyond the u.s. With the Australian podcast teacher's pet making headlines last month after an arrest was made in the decades old case scrutinized by the series but what makes true crime so irresistible and he is podcasting reinventing true crime story telling for a new generation. Well for the cultural front line we brought together the host of 2 award winning podcasts deaths in ice valley from the Norwegian broadcast to n r k and variate b.b.c. World Service and missing and murdered finding Cleo from the Canadian broadcaster c.b.c. She moved from hotel to hotel country to country like a ghost I can't understand how she got so much money I think she was just born the woman took her secret with her to the grave but left many clues and riddles behind and they know we're sure they know this isn't a typical missing person's case for some reason. Have a right to know relatives died or were or what happened. Ok a family go on for so many years without knowing what happened to their sister the investigative journalist Mary take Graf and Connie Walker join me on the line from Norway and from Toronto in Canada the soonest valise a mystery is solved for almost half a century in November 1970 a woman was found dead and severely burned in that desolate valley outside of Bergen here in Norway. Objects were found ladled around her body and labels had been removed from her clothes and i thought i'm so the police didn't manage to find her identity back then and still nobody knows who she was Connie so missing murdered finding clear though is essentially the mystery of what happened to a young Indigenous girl from scratch one name clear as the Magnus now Cleo's family has been searching for her for decades they say she was stolen murdered and is now missing and they reached out to us for help because we've been investigating the cases of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls in Canada for the last few years Connie. Why did you decide to cover is case I'm an investigative reporter but I'm also an indigenous woman I'm crazy from the Scotch one in Canada and for the last few years I've been dedicated to investigating the unsolved cases of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls it's a really big problem here in Canada indigenous women and girls are disproportionately victims of violence and for a long time their stories were not told in mainstream media but it was really also just to try to find some answers for this family man right why you'll particular case when she Norway is a very famous on the solved case the case of the is still a woman well I've been working on this for more than 2 years and I'm still struggling to solve this case to me idealistic investigative journalists always driven by the motivation that I want to make life better for people want to reveal the errors and gaps in the society and so on I've got to ask myself many times in this project why this case every time I come to the same answer because it's a life a human being I want to give her back what she has lost a name of dignity and perhaps justice if someone did that to her it would be really interesting to know what ethical considerations you had when it comes to taking a tragic case and turning it into a pulp cost Connie this is a story that was brought to us by Cleo siblings and so when we were uncovering information sometimes we were learning things about their lives as children before they knew it the trauma that they all experience as a family is something that they're still dealing with the other big thing I think is that I'm an indigenous journalist and a lot of times people have been telling stories for us and so this idea of being a store. Teller versus a story taker when it comes to reporting on any marginalized communities and that really impacted how we went about our production we actually bring close sister along with us to lead some of our investigation because this is her family's story the other is your reporting on somebody who hasn't given their consent for their story to be told but that's the conundrum that I think both of our podcasts have probably had to deal with the right what did you have to consider ethically especially when you're portraying violence against women and girls in a bicycle pump costs. In the thin eyes while they were talking about a person whose identity is not known and of course we do not know her relatives but we have to assume that this woman would have wanted to be identified Of course it's a human being and we have to treat the case with respect we have to be careful with of course names speculations journalistically graphic descriptions and because I'm working on this cooperation between Norwegian and I came and b.b.c. We have different ethical concerns in different countries for instance in our no region publishing we used one photo of the body found dead in 1070 the b.b.c. Did not want to use any photos of the body on the web page you know technically we are true crime podcast but I don't really consider our podcast to be a typical true crime because we also have those same concerns we don't want to focus on the violence we are trying to help people understand that behind every number is a real person how much did you involve the public in your investigations Connie. Well for missing and murdered finding Cleo not very much at all because we produce the Pi cast after the investigation but for the 1st season of missing and murdered we who killed Alberto Williams We had tons of people e-mailing in with tips and clue and so that was a really overwhelming way to produce a park as they have to say because you're investigating as well as producing at the same time but it was also exciting to feel like people could be part of helping to solve this on soft case right we produced along the way with them the stations and me and my co-host Neil McCarthy We wanted to be as little studio based us possible so taking the listeners with us out in the field and invites audience with us into our investigation and we actually did that with the Facebook group and it's run $20000.00 members now Bangladesh talk with Gumby eye in Africa and Canada and they discuss leads and bring the theories maybe that appeals to the detective inside all of us everybody wants to join in then to find the solution I'd also like to know how you felt about leaving space for your own emotional reaction my right I'm used to holding back my thoughts my feelings reporting objectively and to me there are some put costs where the reporter in my opinion gets too big we should guide the audience into the story but we shouldn't stand in the way canid it's definitely a new way and a new style of storytelling I love podcasting because we are allowed to be human beings as well as journalists and I think that especially in this era where people are questioning journalism all the time and we have these accusations of being fake news you can peel back the curtain you can be. More transparent about the process the investigative journalist and podcast produces Marty Graff and Connie Walker you can find for the details of their podcast death in ice Valley and missing and murdered finding Cleo online. I am going to call and you're listening to the cultural frontline on the b.b.c. World Service. I am fully handle Gonzales Yeah and you are listening to the cultural frontline on the b.b.c. World Service. What makes the perfect crime thriller if there's one person who can answer that question it's on next to guest the Danish writers saw an Smyth's trip so now it's become a monster of crime fiction following the international success of his hit t.v. Series the killing the killing is about a detective solid Who investigates a series of mysterious murders in Copenhagen if you're a fan like me you may remember SARS now iconic signature woolly jumper the killing ram for 3 years in spied countless imitations want lol to pull international awards and has been broadcast pretty much everywhere from Brazil to South Korea well now so on his wrist in his 1st novel a new Copenhagen crime thriller The chestnut man I spoke to him about his writing and I asked him what made him decide to make the move from screenwriting to novels when you write something as a novel writer than you you have to make your decisions yourself maybe I was just I had matured so much that I you know I was I you know I had the courage to do that and when you are writing for t.v. Series or a movie or the time you have to discuss economics Is it Ok to do it car chase is located to that the in the main character travel to Afghanistan. Or you know and when it comes to novels where you can just decide for yourself which is fantastic I started your book I finished 8th pretty much on the same day completely gripping and in a nutshell it's about a serial killer who amputate his victims and leaves the chest not man at the scene of every killing I mean it's very dark in places it's also very of motion of the details what you draw and what when you're writing that and how do you join your own experiences in creating describing the emotional detail actually I start the entirely opposite place I mean I I don't start in the darkness I of course I know I'm going to are write something that has a darkness to it but it always starts with a feeling and empathy for a main character or thinking about main characters as. Lights in the dark actually so I write from my right not to write the darkness I write to eliminate the darkness actually so the whole idea came to me when I went to the nursery to pick up my youngest boy. And there was a joining autumn inside the wall the kids they were sitting around a table and assembling just not men which is a tradition and then much at the same time they were singing nursery rhyme and it goes like this just not meant to come in just not meant to come in and it just gave me the chills because I thought these innocent children shouldn't invite some unknown piece of nature inside and then I began to look at men and I realized they don't have any hands and they don't have any feet in fact it looks very beauty didn't scary then I thought Ok what would happen if this kind of icon was found at a crime scene being a result of the range mind so it was that way around and simply because I picked up my youngest kid how much detail planning gaze into plotting creating developing a story like the chestnut man or even the killing. I did it does take a lot of time as start out with a very very simple idea and then put one layer on top and then one more and one more and eventually I my brain is working on high speed and it doesn't it says no no more no we can't cope anymore sorry and then I try to solve the all the Apostles I've laid out for myself and is that what happened when you write yes yes it starts with just been some fascinating points I have and then I just go over the stomach feeling and then all of a sudden there's a mountain to climb and then I try to sort it out what was it what is really about of course the main thing is that there's an emotion and it is this but we're talking about this book now but it's coming he passed no sacrifice can you tell us what happened and I understand you didn't think it finished writing it well. Well I have always been very ambitious with the things I write and at the time when I accepted to write this book I set out to write it I thought it's not going to be a problem and I started to write and then after 170 pages I just collapsed I mean Job stress collated related collapse I woke up one morning I just raised the white flag as I can't write anymore I'm done and I didn't write for 6 months or something like that and I dropped. The t.v. Series and the movies I was supposed to write and so on and I and then eventually I thought Ok I don't want to write the book finish I don't want to finish a book but my wife said this is too good you have to finish it and I said No I don't feel like maybe I should just be a gardener or do something you know useful in life and she said no you're going to finish the book and then I called back the laptop and wrote one line and then 2 lines and then one and a half year I finished the book I think selfie segments so that you. Have me today Are you Ok that's why am I married Eve because I felt you know I told the publishers that they shouldn't tell me anything about the expectations they had because you know I had I had stressed so the last thing you want to know is that somebody is going to outline a guest like that so well so then I went I went to the publishers to turn in the script and that day the day I did that they were so happy and and they said Ok we've already sold it to you know more than 30 countries and I was so relieved that I had known what I mean because of the expectations that what was the trigger was it the the process the story itself the solitude of the process I think the it was the magnitude of projects I mean I'm a you know I'm a family guy I have 2 kids and wife and I just want them to be happy and I want to be happy myself but in the process of. Thinking about happiness for other people say I forgot myself what do you think makes a great a really great crime story sure you'll sequence Well the key elements complexity is definitely something that I like a lot but you have to have your heart with you when you're right you have to have empathy for the characters you can't write about violence if it's just in a cliche says it's superficial and it's it's not important so I don't set out to to write about statistics things I write about stories about people and emotions there's a thing through a crime novel is a court that it starts out with chaos as some kind of you know. Perpetrator 100 loose and then in the end the police or the heroes or here or in this all the thing and and we are we you know we get relieved and I think sometimes we need that we need somebody to tell us Ok this there's a lot of chaos in the world but still there's always some good guys or girls who can help us out the right says so in spiced up his new novel The chestnut man is out now we would love to hear from you about your favorite crime story so if you'd like to join the conversation just jump onto your social media platform and use the hash tag b.b.c. Cultural frontline or you can email us at the cultural frontline at b.b.c. Dot co dot u.k. This is the cultural frontline on the b.b.c. World Service today we're exploring the art of crime storytelling in fact and in fiction now we just heard from sarin spice strip the godfather of scan the wall and you may well be familiar with the classic film noir all from Los Angeles but have you ever heard of Lagos in Wa like a den is one of the trailblazers of this new English rezoned emerging from Nigeria's biggest city lays to award winning novels have been championed by to join . Once of crime fiction American author James l. Roy and British bestseller child if you haven't encountered yet he's layered to tell you why you soon well. Everyone loves a great character you know the ones exciting characters characters that are motivated complex Norns grappling with conflict characters with history characters that are saddled with emotions tormented by dawn for the ability for mysterious consistently unpredictable characters that intrigue us characters he wants to spend time with characters that are. 7 degrees north you'll find one such character population 21000000 density 17000 prescribe name Lagos. Under the unsympathetic on forgiven on relenting blaze of the tropical sun there the shadows are caused darkest the corners shine brighter Everything becomes more intense more organs more shock and more real hair even the crying takes on a new realises I'm on that that intensity that illuminates all things with a c to this rich this contradictory this complex this interest and it's no surprise that writers of that most true genre of literature crime fiction are torn into Lego's for their stories they ghost noise hair and it's pulling no punches worn and if tired tropes I our thing if the troubled yet brilliant Dick take to struggling with our callers them is what makes your day if the hunk of a male lead impervious to pain in mune 2 fer the gone that never runs out of bullets is your favorite literary binge in Lego's know where you will find none of this. Instead you will breed in that acrid fumes of the legendary legal traffic jam side by side with your fantastically corrupt police officer who is also a pastor in a Pentecostal church who also receives bribes with the casual disposition of one receiving the change from a care share and who hand on heart believes that they are upright you see in Lagos good and bad are neighbors life and death are roommates you can do right and be wrong you can be wrong and do right and existence of one does not invalidate the other. From behind the wheel of a later Ferrari superstar rapper or kingpin kidnapper can be bumper to bumper with the duct taped taxi looming skyscrapers of bald houses perched on stilts and the like gloom below Lego's noise. Not concerned with the steps of police procedurals no past poverty point whodunits no. Noise about the dark dark heart of every human and nowhere is dark darkness more later than in this fantastic toxic 8 and Sexy Beast the eeriest megacity the ghost Nor of course. Layer. Layer is new novel when trouble fleet is out now. In the 1990 s. Crime drama took Hong Kong by storm stories of brotherhood and honor murder and mayhem made stars out of actors like Chalion Fiat and directors such as John Woo But those tiles of the exploits of criminal gangs such as the triads also revealed a darker side of the city states with crime stories on screens often mirroring crime stories on the streets for the cultural front line to Hong Kong writer Vivian Cho explores where criminal fact meets criminal fiction. People of Hong Kong they grew up with Hong Kong crime dramas try it stories the trials in Hong Kong literally we call them black society as opposed to the white society and they do all sorts of criminal activity. A lot of crime drama they romanticize these characters and the romanticized the idea of brotherhood within these trials societies that they ply loyalty they support each other and they fight together against outsiders and it's something that came from the migrants d.n.a. Of Hong Kong because you know. A lot of people living in Hong Kong they were migrants from mainland China they either skate from wall or they escaped from the communist rule in 49 so when they came to Hong Kong they had to gang up together that was how some of these gangs were formed because they had to protect their own interest during the colonial times when they suppressed and they were the bottom of the society. Being very real in Hong Kong life from the sixty's up until the ninety's is that the really perfect backdrop for these kind of drama because people know that they accessed in our daily lives. In the ninety's when these films came out it was talk of the town if you haven't been to the cinema to see these films are you a few completely left out it was an event to go see these films they were all over the entertainment pages your friends in school they're all talks about it it was phenomenal at the time and of course some of the films made it to the news headline . This one it's called tragic fantasy Tiger one charge it was released in 1904 and the film was actually based on the story of a gangster boss who was known as the tiger of one child the most powerful of the one child districts the film was released one year after he was mowed it a Macau. When the film came out of course a made news headline Hong Kong triage drama they are not as popular as they were in the past that has a lot to do with the facts that speaking a trial is no longer a cool thing to say anymore. The journalist and writer Vivian challenge on Hong Kong crime drama. 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