China the latest concern was the arrest in Canada of a senior executive in the Chinese telecoms firm Weiwei reportedly over alleged breaches of u.s. Sanctions on Iran investors were already unsettled by doubts over exactly what presidents Trump and Jihad agreed when they met at the g. 20 summit last weekend both suggested that progress unease in tensions had been made but their subsequent accounts of what they planned to do did not appear to match Russia's constitutional court has ruled that a controversial border agreement between the 2 North cocain republics of English at here and Chechnya is no for the Kremlin backed deal which came into effect last month sparked protest in English demonstrators accuse the English leader Yunus Becky Of coure off of surrendering land and have called for his resignation the film vice a biography of the former vice president of the United States Dick Cheney has topped the list of nominations for this year's Golden Globe Awards Adam McKay is up for best director and the film's lead Christian Bale for his role as Cheney Bradley Cooper is nominated in the Best Director and Best actor categories for a star is born while his costar Lady Gaga is similarly nominated twice the Best Actress and Best Original Song b.b.c. News. Hello welcome to our us on the b.b.c. World Service spend James here talking Breck's it once again as we spend some time traveling around the u.k. Talking to the people the voters of the u.k. As the politicians are debating the whys and wherefores of the deal for Britain to leave the European Union we've been finding out all week what the people that they represent have to say about it all about the current situation and what Rick's play in it all to you as we go along to this edition of us and we're in Coleraine today we're in Northern Ireland actually let's find out exactly where we are from the guy who's hosting us introduce yourself my friend that microphone Good afternoon I'm Robert Wilson the proprietor of river house it's a very large business center we have 28 businesses under this roof those are businesses and organizations we have volunteer groups and the like and we've been in business for a great well since 2013 officially and river house because you're right next to the beautiful river that goes through color right yes in the center of time and on the gorgeous causeway coast. Great place to live a great place to do business and what I consider of all of Northern Ireland but particularly up here all the way through we're going to be explaining the significance of exactly where we are and how it fits in to the conversation and somebody to help us all the way through with that is not with this in this room in your place. At the radio station the b.b.c. Radio station where she works where in fact Elaine I think you wake up lots of people in this part of the world tell you go ahead and introduce yourself every day Hi everybody I'm. Speaking today from Radio Foyle as Ben says quite rightly this is where I work for years and 6 o'clock this morning I present our breakfast show and every morning from 7 to 9 and as you can imagine breaks it pretty much dominated our agenda no for the past 2 years we really hear all sorts of views we hear the political we hear from the business leaders we hear. From the farmers we hear from the people on the streets we hear from everyone so there's been some really really interesting discussions for the past well over 2 years now and plenty more to come by the looks of things. Coming up to temp us 4 in the afternoon here thanks for having a really long and expanding it to join us. We're going to explain some of the intricacies to people listening because it's a complicated old situation I have to say and I think you're going to take you through something you call border basics is that right when you're explaining why the border between northern Ireland in the Republic of all in these key to all of this what you tell people yeah absolutely I think the border basics are key here because people hear the words border and backstop a lot it's very easy to get lost it is a very complex situation so here's my 100 gate so bear with me so today I'm broadcasting to you from from Derry from from Northern Ireland I'm on the island of Ireland so it's one island but has 2 very distinct jurisdictions which is the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland $32.00 countries on the island $26.00 are in the public in the Republic 6 are in Northern Ireland and what makes the distinction between the 2 is the very much talked about border and it's the borders been there since the 1920 s. And that's because of partition and the original attentions just for a bit of a history lesson lesson was for both regions to remain within the u.k. But there is war of independence happened then so the Republic went its way and Northern Ireland went its way so just to keep it very simple. Pictures as neighbors you know one lives along say the other so what one does affects the other and vice versa so I was saying and I'm speaking to you from Derry City Derry Londonderry some people call it Londonderry as well and I can explain that in a bit as well but so your gas would know this but just for yourself Ben I know you've had a bit of experience crossing the border today but if I use to get into my car now and travel from the city just go 3 miles just a 7 minute drive and then I'm enjoying a goal which is in the Republican. I'm sure you know this is the only way you really know that you've gone a cause the changes are very slight your phone network will change it'll go from a u.k. 10 Ireland network for example the ruled sayings of the most news thing it goes from my legs to kilometers and then if you want to pop into the shop to get your diesel your petrol or whatever you want to buy it's a different currencies with euro in the Republik and Sterling here in Northern Ireland now if you look really closely if you're a bit of a border nerd like me there is a different shade of concrete. Different shade of grey as I do if you ever see drone footage it's always very nose for there to sort of different shades of grey in the road but the but that's very nerdy but I do seem to there's no fun fair so very very straightforward and there's thousands thousands of border crossings across Northern Ireland every day there's actually 310 miles of border between the north and south divide and there's a hope words of $250.00 you know formal or excuse me around $200.00 former crossings but there's many more because it's sort of how you define You know home Major a truck or potholes to be 4 kinds of border crossing so the phase of the border has changed a lot over the years but pretty much for the last 20 years and this is where the border so important because of the Good Friday agreement and where you would have seen cost in checkpoints British army checkpoints that was a local that'll change at night it is what it is today a pretty seamless frictionless part of the island. Well thanks for taking us through that. Is the simple guide to why this is a big issue when that border becomes not just the border between the u.k. And the Republic of Ireland but it becomes the border between the u.k. And the European Union there won't be any other land border apart from that one between the k. And the European Union after Breck's it so what happens here is a really important part of the whole conversation which will pick up now a line with the rest of the people in the circle around me let's meet some more of them what do you go ahead introduce yourself Hello my name's Mary McNichol and I'm the manager of Causeway volunteer center and our pool reason for being here is because we think volunteering good for people so we promote they and we develop opportunities and we match people up to the opportunities and next year my name is Recchi Martin I mean owner of a live Surf School in Port us so I'm obviously very focused on tourism in the area and actively providers on the air and obviously as with everyone Bracks it's just such a hot topic at the minute so you know really pleased at the opportunity to come along and speak to you guys and have a conversation today over let's bring in some of your thoughts then from the 2 people with we met on this side of the room how do you feel about Bracks as it changed over the last couple of years and so I was a remainer I mean I think I probably still are. But being a Northern Ireland Well I mean one of the things I think is unfortunate about being from Northern Ireland is we're one of the only groups of people in the world that can't really mark the circus that is going on in London too much because at least in my opinion the mater high per job all sides seem to be doing that at least they go to work. Force in Northern Ireland at the moment we don't have a government place. And I think the Bracks as probably an. It's destruction sometimes for our own politicians because at the strikes people from really acknowledging the fact that Northern Ireland doesn't had its own government for over 3 months now I think and we should just bring in Elaine at this point Elaine to give us a potted 20 seconds on why that is if you count pretty much of the government for 2 years ago now it is dying to what some people might have heard heard about it every new bill heat energy scheme was sort of mooted as the main reason and. It's it's a very controversial scheme the investigation to it are still ongoing and the d u p and involvement in that prompted then really a collapse of government that has continued there has been a fucking sense I think Ricky articulated very well a lot of a lot of a lot of frustration are right enough because people don't feel then that they have a voice at the table the many the politicians would argue we're in Westminster and we're we are you know making the points and making the concerns of Northern Ireland known but he's quite right there are the there is no government here at the minute I probably won't be for some time to go so no Northern Ireland Assembly or devolved government ruling Northern Ireland but Northern Ireland does elect politicians that govern sits in the parliament in Westminster. Sorry to bend but the $140.00 point not seen and yet they get they would be they elect they are elected but they have an abstention as policy they don't take their seats at Westminster now which has prompted some calls from some people say well you know what this pivotal moment in Bracks said why aren't you could you not sort of set that aside for now because the the future of Northern Ireland is so important but important would say people know when they vote for us it is on an abstention us policy it's not like they're elected and then say oh no we're not going to take our seats so that's the argument they make back that people who believe in a united Ireland because of that. On principle they don't sit in the parliament in London in the u.k. And Mary come in here and give us your take on projects in the last couple years well I'm a definite remainer was from the beginning a low main do when they started talking about it and nationally that took me away went to relays or I'm going to have to vote as well because it seems so much a u.k. Thing and interesting why did it seem distant to you it just didn't I didn't really to be in the u.k. Who wanted to leave Europe but then when I did think about it and my reasons were the Human Rights employers' rights the fact that we were given a piece that was less chance of war all of those things and but I've got so sick of it under thank in Northern Ireland in particular the whole BRICs that has really put it's really increased the division between the niceness and the Unionist community which I think when we were all part of Europe that seemed to be less important but now it's become We've all done going to are traitors and there's nationalist and there's unionists and it's really really destroyed politics here so nationalists who would like the. Northern Ireland to be part of the Republic of Ireland unionists see like the current situation why Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom with London as the capital so broadly speaking you see those 2 camps and dividing into remain and leave in that way as well it's you know very generally it's a it would be that but a lot of nationalist wouldn't necessarily want to be in the Republic and some units would not want to be you know necessarily care about it so it's not as direct as that but it certainly along the lines of more nationalists would probably want to be in Europe and more unionist would want to not be in Europe it's always a bit more complicated. Than anything simple in politics right here I think it. Sad to say we've also met you Robert and you have I think a different opinion on Brock said tell us well I've been to believe only voter. And I voted for leave based on the information that I had at the time I've been in business a long time. I do but I've done business with Europe not just the Republic of Ireland but from Europe more broadly Do I detect in what you say that you feel the information you were given at the time was was not the right information and or are you happy with your choice to well I don't I'm unhappy with heights been handled among happy with the leadership if I can call it leadership what we very much I still believe that Bracks it could work I think that in the right hands Bracks it could be a wonderful success but it's been mismanaged it's been rolled out very slowly. It's been frustrated Gridley not just by Europe but internally in British politics and as Mary said so rightly things have emerged that we didn't know before we didn't probably fully appreciate I didn't fully appreciate it high it would affect or small population here I mean Northern Ireland is a population just slightly greater than South Hampton that's the perspective but we have to co-exist and we have to work very hard to make things like tourism work and and keep it working. But it's very important that we get on and I've. Always believed that we actually do. And I believe you know if you jump in your car and Castle Rock you can drive to cork in a few hours and you don't really notice the border problem there with the concrete . Only in the last. 30 years ago. And it's wonderful I mean it really is wonderful to have that freedom where you can drive across the border and you don't really friends all over the place so we treat it very much as one community Well hold that thought because we're going to meet the rest of the people around this circle and start to hear their views and get you talking about Bret's that we do over the stories of course to cover on this edition of we're going to pause in the room recharge your mix of if we would so wish go back to London to hear some of the other stories being talked about today. Yes this is on the b.b.c. Close. In the next few minutes or so because some of the entertainment stories that my colleagues are working on right now that Golden Globes is trending worldwide You probably have heard the main nominations in the news bulletin black pants is also a top trend founds are happy that the Marvel film has been nominated for best movie in the past blockbusters have often been overlooked a us rapper has taken legal action against the creators of the popular video game night frontman eases a dance moves that he created without his permission the rap that she merely accuses for not developing Epic Games of unauthorized misappropriation and Spanish music festival Prima Vera sound has announced its line up to 2019 it claims to be the 1st major profile festival to achieve a $5050.00 gender split amongst artists the festival and out of the line up with a paste online carrying the hash tag the normal. Now let's look at a story we've been following here the French government says it fears major violence in Paris on Saturday as the national yellow vest protest movement shows little sign of easing we speak now to France 24 editor parliament who joins us from Paris Marc thank you for speaking to us on the us now people listening around the world may be scratching their heads saying well why will lead be potentially more violence more protests when the French government has not come out and said we're going to scrap these fuel tax increases which of course prompted these protests. Well the answer to that is that the protests are no more about this schedule of hiking the price of fuel on January 1st it's much broader and it's very difficult to get a handle on these protests and on this movement which is really really new because it's a leaderless headless movement there are no political parties involved no trade unions involved and the government does know how to get a handle and basically every time it has proposed some concession that he is really conceded a lot in the past 48 hours yeah answer immediately comes out in social networks all news media it's not enough and so called for further protests on Paris in Paris sorry on Saturday and other places and friends are still on and there is a real concern 1st of all about security because there was widespread violence in Paris that got out of control and now they're really concerned the shops on the trains that you see have been asked to to close museums are now closing on Saturday so the city will probably be on virtual lockdown the next Saturday I guess this is the real challenge for the French government because as you say many concessions made but with so many different people involved in this process made them from left to right how do they get a handle on this how do they appease everybody when there are so many different people with different agendas that's really the 1000000 dollar question they haven't found that answer 1st of all they said you know we'll stay the course and so on and this hasn't worked in the past 48 hours to say Ok We're going to scrap the increases in fuel but also electricity energy then they said Ok we're going to maybe help low salaries get a bonus at the end of the year but it seems nothing. Well satisfied you love this movement and on the other side every time a yellow vests says Ok I'm going to talk to a minister or maybe reach out he is being criticized and sometimes threatened by others say Ok just the mere fact of speaking to a government representative is a betrayal of our cause so that's really a very very difficult situation and some of the men are for the president to resign the National Assembly to. Dissolve So it really ranges from bet and butter issues to deeply political issues and so you have a government that's lost the majority in parliament that's getting panicked by the day and president who is now not speaking He's probably waiting to see what happens and maybe he will be forced to make major concessions but clearly he has lost a lots he probably thought he had sorted out all the social conflict that we've seen in France by reforming the labor law. System the Railways Company a few months ago and he probably got overconfident cocky some might say that and so on and thought that you know no one's going to go against his reform agenda but the fact is that it's really him that's not the target of many protests and they are saying we won't back down until it Mannion Michael speaks to us and basically agrees to a number of our demands amount when Mr all said to come pick up on the fact that high school students have been protesting blockading Mescal now is this linked to the same needs mentors they set price Well that's the snowballing effect that you've seen previously friends and in other countries where you have other segments aggregating to this movement there yes there are high school students there are also universities there are. Truck drivers ambulance drivers potentially farmers and that's the nightmare scenario that's for the government if other sectors are joining the movement even though they don't have the same demands and so on this would bring back. What happened back in 1905 where the country Firstly got to a standstill till the government then was forced to retreat from. A reform of the health care system and the pension system and so that's that's a big concern with. A known fact that you have now it's leaderless movement and sometimes deeply violent movements and so there are security concerns there are political questions and so it's really suddenly very suddenly lot of uncertainty now in France about how this will end well we'll keep an eye on that of course I'm in Paris and elsewhere on Saturday that's France 20 people editor Mark Perelman speaking to us live from Paris where I'm sitting in our London newsroom but let's head back now to North knowledge Ben James is there with a conversation with people ahead of Britain's exit from the European Union and clearly when I said the people gathered in this business center in Coleraine our mission was to explain Bracks and explain how Northern Ireland fits into all of that he laughed at me didn't you he said it's so good. What did you think I mean introduce yourself as a possible. As a possible that's a big question will come to that. My name is Damian Malone and I'm the deputy editor of the Korean Chronicle newspaper we have for the sins of the newspaper which spied on the causeway Coast area which really doesn't know what's right at the very northern tip of Northern Ireland. So I guess you've got of see your own views on the back situation but also an overview perhaps of how different communities around here that read your paper feel about it so yeah I mean the Chronicle's been in existence no 450 years and in that time we reflect and report on the local communities and presently I mean one of the issues is Bracks that yes we're there to try and report and reflect on people's feelings within the community in what ways does it crop up in your paper recently what crops up in different ways I mean a number of weeks ago I think we have the president of the local Chamber of Commerce commenting on it local m.p. Obviously as well as Londonderry as her constituency is at the p. And p. Gregory Campbell which is the Democratic Unionist Party that the largest party currently in Northern Ireland and they also I suppose all hold sway within the government at the present time as well with a supply of confidence agreement they have with the Conservative Party so they're pivotal to the whole thing of Bracks it because they've only got 10 M.P.'s which in the grand scheme of 650 M.P.'s from the United Kingdom in the Parliament it doesn't sound very many but when the government of theories amaze conservatives doesn't have a majority in the Parliament those 10 d.p.n. Piece of vital let them working together to get laws 3 with a Conservative government so it's important to keep them on side for 2 reasons I will talk about how that's figuring in the whole conversation about Bracks it just after these news headlines from our new cinema get into the conversation with a couple more of our guests we've not match just yet here in coloring. This is the b.b.c. 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World Service on Ben James in Northern Island in Coleraine to be precise when a sensor full of small businesses we've got a conversation between people who live around here all about Bret's that Britons accept from the European Union as part of our tour to meet the voters across the United Kingdom to find out how they feel about the debate going on in London at the moment between the politicians on the deal that's on the table. B.b.c. News with Marion Marshall the High Court in Rwanda has acquitted a critic of President Paul Kagame me on charges of incitement to insurrection and forgery the man regards faced up to 22 years in prison for utterances she allegedly made when she declared her intention to run against Mr Kagami in last year's elections but the court in the capital Kigali ruled that the evidence provided was not enough to convict Mr Garcia and her mother. But Rooney has ordered the closure of the un human rights office in the country is to shut within 2 months the outgoing un rights chief say rather Hussein recently called Burundi one of the most prolific slaughterhouses of humans in recent times the French government has said it will deploy $65000.00 members of the security forces on Saturday they're being fears of more violence that plan demonstrations by the yellow vests movement at the start of the 1st Yemen peace talks in 2 years the u.n. Envoy for the country has called the meeting a critical opportunity to give momentum to peace the government and the Hooty rebels have agreed to a limited prisoner exchange u.s. Stock markets fell sharply at the start of the day's trading investors have been concerned about the arrest in Canada of a Chinese tech firm executive or oil prices have also dropped after the oil cartel OPEC suggested a cut in our Put would be smaller than expected. The u.s. Defense Department says it's flown a plane over Ukraine to reaffirm Washington's commitment to the country's security the Pentagon denounced what it called Russia's unprovoked attack last month on Ukrainian ships in the Black Sea Russia accuses Ukraine of provocation Investigators say the pilot of a helicopter that crashed outside Leicester City Stadium in October lost control when his pedal was disconnected from the tail rotor blades the club's owner what an opera par and 4 other people were killed b.b.c. News. Welcome back to live on the b.b.c. World Service from Coleraine in northern islands and I Hello I'm Ben James been hearing if you're listening before the news some of the 1st thoughts of the people sitting around me here as we hear the voters talk about Britain's accept from the European Union we've been hearing from Mary from Ricky from Robert from Damian so far also a lame again is with us from the studios of b.b.c. Radio 4 in Derry good to have you there Elaine is going to be here really interesting conversation to pick up on something that Marion Roberts which I think is overlooked sometimes in wider u.k. Coverage of Bracks it Mary I hope I catch a break Marion's in this but you see in you know some people don't have a strong feel feel in the their way about staying within the u.k. Or staying with an heir and they're just in Northern Ireland and then Robert making the point as well even I you know as a leave order of that was very interesting Robert you know you see this as a United Ireland already and I wonder just for you there do you think sometimes the wider picture of the complexities of here it is too much painted in Orange and Green Day in the lanes of Catholic part of stand a nationalist. Unionist and then that then on the waiter you kill level people really don't understand I suppose the feelings here do you think that it also carries a nodding around this circle around the left I'm a robot you know. From the group but well I mean it's not it's not unique to Northern aren't this these parochial points of view this is. This is global I mean if you're in Italy and you're live in Santa and the people up the road and Florence are the enemy and it happens in so many communities you know you've got divisions in cultures and beliefs not always religious based all over the world in Northern Ireland we actually. You know we we make a bit of noise but we have a pint together not all of us but it's actually a really friendly place to live. Depends on your state of mind of course because you get you get all sorts of people but I think the thinking people of arland in Northern Ireland I mean I'm in Northern Ireland Protestant and that's because I was born to Northern Ireland Protestant parents no one actually asked me you don't get a choice of I didn't get a choice in my my Catholic friends didn't get a choice but we're great friends and I think it's it's how you approach life and that's not just socially that's in business so the whole Bracks it thing needs approached with the positivity. An optimism. And you have to accept that things change and you have to cope with that change you have to and to support it where you can I mean all change can be accurately anticipate it we saw that in the Bank of England 10 years ago but it is important to listen and read and understand the landscape that could be in front of us well let's have a listen to some more points of view and feelings about the future hello introduce yourself good and Shannon McMullen I'm a student and also universally Grant and I'm in my final year study in geography and it has a grip political I reach as well especially and students are really concerned I think the vote and it was over me in Northern Ireland overall and I think I did fax in a room in voters and a huge proportion of them were young people and does it come up in your conversations with your mates you're about to graduate aren't you this next this coming summer yeah disagreements about you know what this might mean for your future if you graduate in a few months after the plum bricks a day of March the 29 either a good opportunity or otherwise Yes I mean like I myself spent a year abroad last year study and in Europe and one of us and now there in Inspire and I said it was part of your eyes not skiing like I was one of the best experiences of my life that's opened up opportunities for work in like with global network people and I think it needs to be like that thanks for says Well an international students coming here bring over 1130000000 pangs to the economy as well that's something that educational institutions are focusing on because they don't have the money and they're not getting enough money from the government itself so they're not bringing in those international students very very evident and on that as a source of income and so I think all. These things are being overlooked this actually consider on the day when there's not much said about these sort of things were shouldn't say and policies are being talked about with that will get into that in just a moment I'll just winning from your own personal perspective I don't know what you're planning on doing after you graduate are there things that you're particularly interested in doing for a career perhaps and are there any implications or otherwise. That you fear or not are you perfectly happy and you think it won't affect you to know I'm thinking that will affect me definitely I haven't got any such career goals at the moment I'm thinking about doing a masters at the moment as well because I think that. There's a lot of opportunities but there's a lot of uncertainties at the moment so I would like to. Delve and anything that's going to change in the near future because actually we've been talking about this all the way through the week people who say they definitely know what's going to happen it's very very difficult to know exactly what's going to happen which is probably a good time to bring in I think is that the B.B.C.'s Rob Watson he was our mastermind of Bracks and he's been helping us try to unravel some of these complex things he's our political correspondent in Westminster Good evening to you and I rubbed Good evening to you and everyone in Northern Ireland mind I have to say without sort of sounding like I'm sucking up to everyone absolutely adore Northern Ireland I've made many visits and also it sort of spark something in my memory so it was when I was a child one of my earliest memories is of looking at the news in the 1960 s. Early seventy's of all the violence in Northern Ireland and then going there as a young reporter and then going there again recently and I keep meaning to take my fishing rod and I keep forgetting grass or you know the River just outside here they're just giving Yeah this is good fishing right here Robson is going to fishing I'm alone. Yeah. Well I was just I was like this might not be No no it might not be something you've got right to hand down and they're bringing up the opportunities in future for international students to come to the u.k. After. U.k. Students to go to Europe on schemes like Erasmus has that been dealt with it all with what the politicians have been talking about is that part of the deal another $585.00 pages so you you may not have that book open at that page in front of you but has it come up in any of the conversations you've had definitely as far as I know those kind of issues are for the other document that was agreed the political declaration the one was. Sadly in some ways only 26 pages long because what that dot that what that is largely aspirations all about the hope for the future relationship between the u.k. And the e.u. And things like freedom of movement or some kind of movement study or all of that is up for negotiation. All right let's bring in somebody else around the circle is not heard from the go ahead and introduce yourself Hello my name is John skews I've retired from farming but we still do some tourism we do about breakfast and we have a little grass or a strip not far from Korean about 6 miles away I'm actually from the south of our island originally I'm a Protestant from the south of Ireland you know lives in the north of Ireland so I've seen the length of the birth of a country is that complicated situation. You have to you have to be careful what you say sometimes people assume you're one of the other and it's better it's better not upset at them and that's interesting that fits back into what you're saying about maybe about pigeonholing about oversimplifying assuming that you know everything about someone because of one aspect of them yes that's right that's right this is a Nazi around here said when it comes to blacks it John you know if the in agriculture you know you're farming when you made the choice about how you voted and maybe you share that choice with this with agriculture a big part of that for you I'm strongly or I'm interim because I remember and the South of Ireland before we joined the Sea I remember how per people were I remember how poor the farmers were my father was a doctor and often he would be paid with potatoes and eggs because people had no money and the farmers had no money and then only a few years after we joined the Sea the same farmers were sometimes driving around and worse it is that was the difference that the e.c. Made and I should tell people that I just had to look it up so I can quite remember what that stood for European economic community which is one of the forerunner names to the European Union the e.u. That we talk about now it's been called a few different things and some would argue it's changed its nature as well over over that time from a purely economic area to something more but but that's what that name means it's the same as is the now that's right yes so I think the European Union has been the salvation of Ireland and so in many ways it's taken Ireland out of power. Verty at stake has taken us away from parochialism and it's taken us away from their own nationalism that you've got both sides of the border. I remember the border when I was a kid I actually went to boarding school in the north so across the border an awful lot during the seventy's on the border was a scary place and young people know maybe they don't know that but the border definitely was a scary place and I remember Protestant families being shot of the border having to leave their farms and you know it works both ways there were Catholics who suffered as well but you didn't hang around the border I remember hitchhiking around Ireland and it never got left at the border people were suspicious it's a really intense He nods and smiles around that statement though the European Union the salvation of Ireland anyone else got a visa on that so that's a strong statement. Ricky Yeah I mean I think. I used to great waves all the way down in the West who's the violence we used to go and search traps an awful lot on the early all of the new developments that you saw how the European Union Simon cite them all the roadworks and. Almost any sort of construction that you saw going on how about so I would completely agree with everything that John just sad. I think as well. As Going back to sort of no Northern Ireland self I think we're in the street and said she is not the man where there's a lot of people I think in my possession that find themselves in a sort of political limbo because I grew up in a unionist family but I am you know I I mean the atheist I don't consider myself way Catholic or Protestant You know I don't I love Northern Ireland I don't want to be and I and I don't because I love Northern Ireland but I don't I feel more Irish the lady British fellow I did take a joke told scene identity is one that you've heard when you say you're an atheist and it goes back to the whole issue of pigeonholing people at the guy you got asked then what are your Catholic ideas or thoughts and ideas yeah I mean it's really because you know I would still be absolutely categorically defined as a Protestant even though I don't believe in God So it's a very strained situation and then what I find is that I I'm sort of just I'm from Titus because I don't there's no political party in Northern Ireland I feel represents my view or someone I could vote for because I don't want to vote for the nationalist parties because they their goal is a United Ireland which I don't agree with but I also don't feel like a vote for the likes of the day you pay because I disagree with basically everything that they say and so I lot of my friends that I speak to you find themself and exactly that's such patients. That's a very very unusual political landscape that we have and what we've got Rob where this from Westminster Rob Ricky mentions the d u p the Democratic Unionist Party the party with and we mentioned this before you joined this 10 and P's that doesn't sound a lot but actually really important when the Conservative government is in a minority and needs those votes to get over the line to get things through what's the current state of play and the relationship between the u.k. And the conservatives because the d.p. They're not happy with to resume a deal are they I don't think it's reason Mayer's on the Christmas card that asylum Arlene Rob Watson house means that we've lost no any from this conversation and I always tell that Rob I think maybe we just haven't tell you that it was like well I was about say that I don't think you answered your question that series of mayors on the Christmas card list of Arlene Castro at the moment she's the leader of the d.p. I think things are I think think things are pretty frosty let's that the short answer to your question and of course as you say to reason may requires them to stay in power. And they seem absolutely adamant that they will not vote for her deal consciously It's been absolutely fascinating hearing everyone talking about you know the issues of identity and the extent to which they do still and don't perhaps play quite so much of a of a role as they used to and the politics of Northern Ireland and I was just wondering if I could throw out a question saying as I don't play to get to do that as often unless I'm actually there in person I had this fascinating fascinating documentary on the b.b.c. 5 plug the plug my employer on Radio 4 about whether identity was changing and in Northern Ireland and whether people would going to feel differently about the about the issue of a united Ireland as a result of Bracks and the sort of years of peace I was on and what people think. Albrecht's Alan I fax on the way people on the way people think of our identity. Yeah I think it well I mean we've spoken here people are saying there probably isn't are you nuts or Catholic or whatever but from my point of view and from what I can see from the 2 years discussions people across the water and England who have driven a lot of the bricks it really don't care people here well other Catholic Protestant nationalist Unionists I don't think i'm are still am in the slightest I think. If you're in England and you voted for black rocks it to leave your Irish and I don't think I think one of the problems is that they didn't give only the been given of consideration to Northern Ireland and the problem with the border with the Republic of Ireland I mean the been discussing it for 2 years and it seems only no I that minds are focused on the border problem in that surely should have been one of the things that was discussed right from the start and I think we're sitting here talking about identity and stuff. As far as I'm concerned he watch debates programs in television come from England they'll dump Northern Ireland and a heartbeat regardless what you are I'm not support that stuff but that worries me . That's what Robert said earlier as well you know we're such a small part of a United Kingdom that really were not important and were never important except that Theresa May is relying on the e.p. . It's a big deal done. Yeah where land on terrorism that were taken were taken importance goes where the only long frontier was the way seemed to me if it goes ahead but I think as well and the thing about shift and identity I think a lot of people. Are expecting like rivalry or a bit over from nationalists or Catholics on the border Ashi I think it needs to be considered that it's no longer going to be and pretty controlled or by by the British from the border and tax it's going to be like the European Union and implementing it and I think as well and the 2 decades of pay since the Good Friday agreement and there's been a lot of changes and people neither I especially like the so-called peace generation younger people didn't witness as much of that atrocities of the past then I think like there are more people are thinking were Northern Irish rather than Irish or bred a switch is grit so I think I don't today really has shifted. What I see the triggering of the introspection that has happened since June 16th has been quite wonderful and not just you know the people sitting in their horses in Portugal people from the United Kingdom just people that travel regularly there are people in Northern Ireland and all of a sudden we've got a heightened sense of who we are and where we move I got to be a good thing and it's been a good thing in Northern Ireland as far as I'm concerned because I've gone to the debates pre-breakfast vote where there were unionist in the room there was a shoo in for in the present in the room and they were holding very different positions on how we should vote. And you could say that they were hijacking this for their own means and actually they weren't really considering the social consequences for us as a nation united kingdom and into trade or social freedom they were hijacking it for their own arguments and actually it was dividing us and once the vote had gone the way it had gone. They quietened dine a bit and I think that. We have to remember back 21994 when we were encouraged to read the other man's newspaper that has happened over the last 2 years in Northern Ireland we start to read look at the European point of view look at how we live as a result like John said about the effect on farming it was actually the effect on infrastructure and roads and all our lives and all or cultures and and communication systems and and freedom so it's been a very good relationship I go back to the fact that I voted art that flies in the 1st of all just said I think the United Kingdom could stand on its own 2 feet I think there were very many good arguments to leave I want I don't know of any polling this sorry I mean to talk of course you know but I wonder if you had your chance again in a 2nd rendered referendum would you believe again knowing what you know. Well I might have a chance again. People are talking about all that potentially I have to say that as a business person and a father and a husband and a sense of well I think fairly sensible thinker and someone who thinks about things not just thoughts about things I said and consider think I think that I have to consider these things every month I have all that information going to it all the time when we voted lave those that had their face on the campaign and ran for the hills I think they took such shock in the fact that in the Victorian vote they all suddenly disappeared. And Johnson and all these other leaders where are they there's no leadership been shown by these people or told the ferns they've disappeared so it sounds Elaine like Robert might potentially change his mind if he gets a chance again I just wanna go back to Rob what's before we leave him Rob did does what's been said in this remember some of your questions about identity really interesting stuff and I mean it is it's absolutely it's absolutely fascinating I mean clearly what has been going on in Northern Ireland as a sort of maybe an even more intense version of what's been going on over here in England which is that that force people who voted both remain and leave to think about why they did it why the vote as turned out the way they'd expected it to whether the process has and I'm sure and I suspect an awful lot of people would like to press the reset button not a reset sort of council referendum I mean a reset sort of go back 102030 years where we could all we could all think right if we knew that this was going to happen there was going to be this referendum and everyone would be so divided and there would be all these on certain questions Could things have been handled in such a way that satisfied the concerns of people voted the people who voted leave. But of course. Rob Watson thanks so much Rob Watson our correspondent in Westminster it's a question we'll continue to ponder over the next hour or so in Coleraine Thanks to our guests for the moment thanks to the b.b.c. Radio 4 years will carry on this conversation let's get some more stories 1st for a minute. From the b.b.c. World Service I'm live from the center of our news room and London let's take a look at some of the stories that you've liked today one of the most read stories on the b.b.c. Website father has made his daughter walk 8 kilometers it's about 5 miles to school as punishment for bullying 10 year old Kirsten was suspended for 3 days from the school bus for a 2nd time bullying offense her dad Matt Cox decided to teach her a life lesson millions of youth his video on social media and his act has provoked a debate on parenting also a story lots of you are clicking on millions of smartphone users in the u.k. And Japan have lost their services after the network suffered technical problems and the hash tag 28000 wrapped is still trending on Twitter Spotify is rolled out the feature that tells you how long you've spent streaming music this year and who your top artists are right because the sport headlines now from. Thank you Chloe investigators have given an update on the city helicopter crash in October which killed the football club's chairman and 4 others and therein Accident Investigation Branch report found that cockpit pedals had disconnected from the tail rotor and the failure of that mechanism caused the helicopter to spin out of control the aircraft then turned uncontrollably to the right before it crashed. Power stadium the report says there was a build up of black grease on one component which led to that problem with the pedals the investigation is continuing gymnasts. Chiefs have been accused of stealing. Voting to include. The streets which involves running jumping and climbing over obstacles you may have seen it on television or perhaps in films there's one particularly well known scene in the James Bond movie Casino Royale. Chasing a man who's an expert in looks spectacular it's very much a sport for the young the International Gymnastics Federation wants to run park or eventually take it to the Olympic Games however. The organizations that currently are in charge of who claim the gymnastics is trying to annex their sport to appeal to individual gymnastics federations to stop started a social media campaign and they may even take legal action. Function a.j. Now let's look at another story that lots of people are talking about online it's about the American t.v. Actress and writer Lena Dunham widely known for creating writing and of course starring in the h.b.o. Television series Girls which she's apologized off to publicly defending a writer on her show who was accused of rape let's get more details now from as and I who is in Maryland is a writer for The News website medium so as I 1st of all hi there just take us right back to the beginning here when these allegations 1st against this right what she said and what these allegations are. Ok So actually what they were actually that were leveled by an actress and she was the up and coming actor at the time and so you know like most actresses. Was you know networking trying to meet people people that probably helped her career and. She ended up. Going out with a group of people and that was where she met at this man who. And her. Coach her creator creative partner. So. Again. Sorry for interrupting we don't have a lot of time. For the time Lena Dunham defended him saying I believe this not to be true so one track now. I think that she's kind of. On an apology tour. She wrote a. Hollywood Reporter. I think. On her that on her for quite some time there were issues. Around that time the time when time's up was sort of coming into its own and. You know. Get that image going and sort of at her you know as one of the people that helped to do that. And it makes incredibly complicated just. Right yeah I think a lot of. The whole thing with feminism and I have to forgive me for jumping right in here we are running out of time a job as an I speaking to me from Maryland. As part of the 100 women season on the b.b.c. World Service we hear the story of the woman who exposed cervical cancer screening in 2011. She's dying and function for the truth and you're giving the term. I was trying to make sure. The woman who changed. B.b.c. World Service don't. And in an hour's time I click with to fidget visiting a hospital in South Sudan run by a remarkable surgeon who makes surgical instruments out of grass and in his maternity ward you mothers sleep 2 to a bed and with their babies inside Dr hatters hospital on a night we return to a less This is the b.b.c. World Service the world's radio station. Hello welcome to our house on the b.b.c. World Service I'm Ben James who take any around the u.k. This week to talk bricks Britain's accept from the European Union to reflect the conversations of the people as the politicians debate that departure in Parliament in London now you heard it at a factory in Redditch new who is in Grimsby talking fish and bricks at this time yesterday and now we're sitting in Coleraine in Northern Ireland and we succumb to this part of the world because of the whole issue of the border between the u.k. And the Republic of Ireland and how that fits in to Bracks at 500 kilometers of border between northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland which would be after breakfast the only land border between the e.u. K. And the e.u. An open border at the moment we'll hear exactly what it's like we went there a bit. Explain that to you and that will hear the conversation in the room about how people here in coal rain feel about the future about Bracks that and how the politicians are dealing with. Marian Marshall with the b.b.c. News the Rwandan political activist Ian regard has been acquitted of charges of forgery and inciting insurrection the High Court in Rwanda's capital Kigali handed down a verdict on this regard and her mother had a lean and saw reports it's a big win for the young opposition leader dnd regarding always maintained that the accusations against her were politically motivated us by.