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2nd program from Russia she and other members of Moscow's talented musical community a keen to be heard above the hostile political noise that seems to be the soundtrack of relations between our country and large parts of the world at the moment. I really would like to think that culture and politics more separate and together I would like for people to kind of not look at what Putin is saying because he isn't speaking for the whole nation and the people are different from the leader join me James Kim Our saw me in just a few minutes. Hello Marion Marshall with the b.b.c. News 629 migrants at the center of a rowdy European immigration policy of spending their 1st night on dry land for more than a week 3 vessels took them to the Spanish port of Ellen from where Damon Dramatica reports Spain is giving the 630 people free medical care and permits to stay for 45 days it's promised to consider every asylum claim as it seeks to demonstrate what it says can be a more humane migration policy Europe can follow and cities around the country have a lengthy as mayor says stepped forward to offer help powers in the arrivals while there is silence claims that members of the u.s. Congress a visiting a detention center close to the Mexican border today where migrant children are being held the opposition politicians are on a fact finding mission to investigate the controversial practice of separating parents and their children who illegally cross into the United States Chris Butler reports President Trump has introduced a 0 tolerance policy the means everyone find to be illegally crossing the border between Mexico and the u.s. Is detained and prosecuted in practice that's leading to parents and children being separated in order to be held in different facilities with the White House under growing political pressure over the so-called family separations opposition politicians are visiting the border to inspect various sites including a converted supermarket in Texas that is not being used to 1500 migrant children in football there's been a shock result in the World Cup with the reigning champions Germany being beaten one nil by Mexico the score of the Mexico is ebbing a sun Oh Instead it is minute Alex Capstick has the details Germany arrived in Russia as the defending champions and one of the favorites and that big Mexico in all of the previous World Cup and counters but they were given an almighty shock by a Mexican side that came racing out of the blocks at. Lightning speed roared on by the noisy fanatical followers the Germans were rattled uncharacteristic mistakes were made the goal came when from another rapid break her fingers are no cut inside his marker and smashed the ball into the net the final whistle spot while celebrations from the huge Mexican contingent As for Germany this was a poor start but you'd be photos to write them off just yet the favorites Brazil are currently beating Switzerland one nail earlier Costa Rica one nail the organizers of human rights for an instant Petersburg say it was forced to close on the eve of the World Cup in what they believe was a politically motivated move they say the owner of a building said to host a diversity House event told them to leave without explanation the organizers suspect their addiction was orchestrated by the local Conservative government a new location has since been found and a similar operation in Moscow has so far run smoothly Well news from the b.b.c. 8 security personnel have been killed in Northeast Kenya as their vehicles set off a homemade landmine witnesses said the vehicle was so badly damaged that all the police staff and revert reservists who were in it died officials suspect the attack in one county was carried out by al-Shabaab. Suspected Boko Haram jihadists have attacked the town of D'Ambois in northeast Nigeria killing at least 20 people they targeted people returning from either feet or celebrations hours earlier Nigeria's army chief issued a call to people displaced by the conflict to return to their communities as their homes were now safe His Will Ras the officials at the moment are saying that there were 6 female suicide bombers which is very unusual Boko Haram often use young women to carry out these attacks but 6 at once nobody's ever heard of now some of the residents in the area were saying that after these explosions rocket propelled grenades were then launched into the crowd that had gathered to help the victims the all thought is a saying at least 20 people were killed but people who fled the area were saying as many as 31 people were killed so a major attack in Denver the Israelis say they made more than 20 arrests when they dismantled a group of harass militants operating in the occupied West Bank according to Israel's internal security agency the cell had bomb making equipment and had been planning attacks in Israeli cities the arrests were made in April but they've only now been made public as yet there's been no response to the statement from Hamas the Afghan government has extended a unilateral ceasefire with the Taliban by another 10 days the earlier truce announced that the IJA festival was due to end on the 20th of June the Taliban have already rejected appeals to extend their 3 day ceasefire which is ending later on Sunday earlier a suicide bomber killed at least 18 people in the eastern city of Jalalabad b.b.c. News. Welcome to Russia but. Welcome to global be sauced 2nd exploring the country's new music scene and James Canarsie . Will be meeting for feisty female artists one of whom describes herself as a Russian Hora fairy tale character at 1st I was like screaming and a lot of guys what the hell why she's screaming she can sing she's a girl she should be beautiful and nice and she can't express herself in any different way. But also be hearing about the importance for Russian musicians of close contacts with the wider world I was chosen as a 1st Russian artist to be a part of the musical program in a night of states called Swan beat this actually the experience that changed my life I'm discovering how here in Russia the worlds of classical and popular music on so far apart either. If you come to a contemporary music concerts. Or in London the average age of the fifty's and sixty's situation is really different here here it's saying we are the hip people when we mentor you go to you know. Just to tell. You virtues not the group it is a lover could you tell us what you think. This is a track called Mom Dot multi-talented musician. Of the past few years his original electronic creations and improvised performances have gained him an international reputation he puts his soul into his music but also in a very physical way his body generating sound with his movements but he recently set up a school in Moscow to teach electronic composition to body thieves. Hear it and I said. Right now this is a. Hello my name is on there. We're sitting now in sound studio where I teach my students how to write music how to make art. Actually my career start in 2013 and in 2 years I already played on the big festivals around the world. It's not a common story especially if about Russian I just thought that maybe it could be a mission for me just to explain people that are interest free world and you can do whatever you want if you really want to do this it's nothing to be scared of. How did you become an artist I think it began when I was trailed I like to listen to some fairy tales and been ill for a coffee or on the wall of course it's one of my favors and then I just realize that music makes something special with me I just feel it in some special ways like I just love it and so where did you grow up I grew up in Moscow Aires criminal area actually. And who comes here will disappear. Yeah and I disappear actually after a few years left my family and moved to another area and then. I finished my 1st university as economist then I finished my 2nd university as a sound engineer and start to work on 2 jobs but the 2nd was not a job that my main job was a sales manager or grinding machines spare parts for wood graining machines and evening time and night time I spent for music trying to make something that I laugh . And that eventually took you to America yet this actually the experience that changed my life it was in 2012 and I was chosen as the 1st Russian artist to be a part of their musical program United States called one beat they got there's a 30 musicians who are on the world so I was among the really talented Felos from South Korea or from Nigeria from Venus well and we were making bands playing together and then had a tour from Orlando to New York with stops and different C.D.'s him playing in the bar scene museum scene there art galleries tell us about the international aspects of your work as you say you've performed at lots of festivals and events around the world how important is it to get out of Russia and to travel and to get different musical influences it's important for me I mean really ambitious guy different cancerous help musicians to travel around they cover this expenses because they're in countries they're interesting to spread its culture around the world and it's beautiful and Russia doesn't do this why do you think that is why does the Russian state not want to promote its artists internationally they care about different things and these things are not about the art and not about the people they're more about their money the power and this whole it's enough for them why do you think that there isn't much openly political music why isn't that even though there's a lot of frustration amongst the young generation Why do people not write political songs. It's Kerry you could have a problems. We have some experience and few years ago when Mineta force the president it's a market in which the Immigration is a brand machinery me it's one of the best Russians bents ever in he was close to the president and a few years ago he just started something like critic me in said some critics to their government and in one second he started had really big problems with the concert with the geeks in just one second he became air traitor because how could you say something better about Russia when the whole world against Russia just takes one very public example like that and people get your message Sure sure they're not stupid they know how to to make people quieter. Anton Maskil yada Well after school Anton invited me to an add on guard classical concert before and Buddy Kimathi consomme bowl and featuring a piece by one of his former students Gania never Sakena she also calls itself Jenny and Jekka for her pop songs. It's just interesting it went I just can't miss it it's not all fun and such a things happen in Moscow these a classical reinterpretations of electronic music read the classical interpretation of a try to get. A My name is Jenny and electronic musician produces songwriter and I play and the name Jekka tell us about your piece that we heard this evening and well this is my 1st time writing anything for a music ensemble and I'm not really familiar with working with acoustic instruments so that was like super stressful because you have to know how each instrument plays and how it can be played and in the alternative way so it was a real challenge for me to do something tell us about Moscow as a city to be creative in is it does it inspire you I think it adds inspires a lot of very sad music very depressive music because a well. It's a very depressive city I don't know all of my friends are definitely depressed all the time even when they have like a moment of signing our base they're still kind of depressed and what depresses and what why this mass depression. I don't know I think that's the general mood Moscow mood is kind of like you know Mordor. From Lord Of The Rings kind of like very dark place and very brooding the Seems like a pretty special evening I mean for people listening. What is what is the scene like in Moscow What's the electronic music scene how would you describe it oh it's bubbling buzzing everything really Moscow has a sensational number of absolutely talented electronic musicians and with the tronic production schools opening up more and more people are getting into it much faster some people have suggested that clubs and places like that are having a lot of trouble than those been a bit of pressure from the authorities to close things down are you finding that yes sure I mean it's very hard to get support from the government mostly clubs open up send me illegal Yeah it's very hard to get past the legislation and just. To open some place which. Has some more kind of than sub culture music or underground music it's very difficult to get like financial support for music festivals you usually have to go to some brands mostly the whole brands so yeah it's not easy definitely and it's because the government's just a bit nervous of of young people doing things that it doesn't quite understand or. Can control definitely definitely is that and also because Russia has a certain cultural policy which is more about traditions and traditional music and they actively support that just like really pushing it into every festival every like. City celebration and I mean they're just simply bombarding with these traditional values and they're not really open to kind of contemporary styles and the. Global political situation makes a difference if you think people look at Russia this is me now. I really would like to saying that culture and politics are sort of more separate than together I mean of course one influences the other but still I would like for people to kind of not look at what I do Putin is saying because he isn't speaking for the whole nation you know that plenty of people who are in opposition you know it's like now with Trump as well you can't really say that all Americans are so bad because Trump is such an idiot next. Jacka and this is a track story. Fit and a good. Time to. Get it. Jacka with Kenya story this is global base with me James Kim Our saw me now long before I started presenting news out here on the b.b.c. World Service I lived in Moscow and I actually d.j. Down a Russian radio station back in the 1990 s. So checking up on today's music scene has been something of a nostalgia trip so this is a little vinyl record still cold they said he wasn't here when I lived in Moscow since the Center on the window painted all the different genres that they've got if this go. In the game so if I saw fit 5 Russian. Russian rock in here for the. Records that I bought in fact yes very 1st. They were a band very popular in the late Soviet period so. This is what we're interested in the new Russians. Right at the front. Of the new Russian. It here on this program. I'm driving through Moscow now and as I sit here with a bag of Violet brings back a memory from when I used to live in Moscow in the early ninety's there was one rather unfortunate day when I was in a cab and I had a huge bag of vinyl I paid the driver got out with a sinking feeling I realise I'd left my vinyl and some of it pretty rare in this car so I had no idea who this guy was all I know is he has a pretty good record collection now. Well I arrived with records safely in hand downtown café wide arranged to meet. The post-punk band Lynne shake with guitarist. But. She says. She also records as a solo artist a different vibe and a different name Kate and the. Sound as Kate envy has been described as evoking every. Thing from Japanese pop to Bjork to Lorianne this and you may be surprised what Kate thinks is the most significant influence on the music lots of things changed once I got. In late sixty's colors cause you composer from England Stockhausen a student made a scratch August or a it's not history of the tourists but those who really wanted to play music because he believed that anyone can play music anything can sound anything and become an instrument so he wrote a constitution and you know for the for the track and he wrote a piece called The Great Learning and somehow it happened that in Moscow if you composers and musicians they played a concert they just invited random people from the concert to join the next one to play as a scratch August recess and it completely changed my life because like before that it will really hurt the need to improvise with people like some people take l.s.d. And I participate is question orchestra so it's really changed my whole like the way that music it's really hard to learn something new like play knowing 228 and like the only way to exist to make music is just being honest with yourself and listening carefully to what your heart and soul says and I just realized that before that moment when we switched to Russian language we were kind. Of were not honest with ourselves you know because your initial recordings were in English yeah yeah there was a thing like English is the international language lots of people speak English and we thought that probably it will help us to get more audience which is say right now it is like when we switched to another language over on like native language we got more attention than ever before. And I want to talk too much about politics but obviously affects the whole kind. Tensions international tensions as a Russian officer play a lot of road he recalls just come back from recording a new album in Cologne in Germany does it concern you are you worried about what impact it might have on your career. It's pretty complicated I don't know you know like 2 years ago maybe into 2015 I was very. Scared of the financial crisis just how the Russia and everything became really expensive and I really felt like all of my friends they started like immigrate to Canada and. Really And then when Jodi was so dark the was was so unhealthy and dark and I remember me and then you know we talked a lot about this stuff and he was like the only thing you can do right now is just work harder I mean I'm not a position and. If I can help like someone to understand something and to feel the same way I feel by making art. Then I should be all right this is like the best thing I can do. To try and be I'm not truck is cold spells. This is global beats from Russia we'll be back in a few minutes. This is the b.b.c. World Service Now here's something to think about when someone has a brilliant idea it can be like switching on a light bulb. But then they have to prove that with intensive research we have data from many parts of the world in China Southeast Asia Africa Europe us if painstaking observation do the monkeys pay attention to things like price at a time to maximize their marquee token dollar and even then they're not always believed people fault the people who promote the kind of ideas that are on promoting are either stupid ignorant megalomanic or all those things together the light bulb moment to big idea I'm David Edmonds and I'll be talking to people with new ways of thinking about all worlds the big idea at b.b.c. World Service dot com. Hello I'm James Kamar saw me and this is extraordinary I speak a Russian dealer who described their sound as hora. I've got a lot to say as you'll discover in global beats after the b.b.c. . B.b.c. News with Marianne Marshall members of the u.s. Congress are visiting a detention center near the Mexican border to investigate the controversial practice of separating parents and children when they cross illegally into the u.s. President was introduced as erode tolerance policy that means everyone making the crossing illegally is detained and prosecuted. $629.00 migrants at the center of a rout of a European immigration policy of spending their 1st night on dry land for more than a week 3 vessels took them to the Spanish to Porterville n.c. Or after Italy refused entry to the NGO run rescue ship Aquarius the defending World Cup champions Germany have suffered a shock defeat in that tournament opener losing one nil to Mexico in their 1st game the favorites Brazil are currently level with Switzerland one all Stevens Dubai equalized for the Swiss 5 minutes into the 2nd half after a brilliant opener from Philippe continue earlier Serbia beat Costa Rica one nail the organizers of a human rights forum in the Russian city of St Petersburg said was forced to close on the eve of the World Cup in what they believe was a politically motivated move the organizers suspect there a vixen was orchestrated by the local Conservative government aid security personnel have been killed in Northeast Kenya when their vehicle set off a homemade land mine officials suspect the attack in what year County was carried out by al-Shabaab the Israelis say they made more than 20 arrests when they dismantled a group of her mass militants operating in the occupied West Bank according to Israel's internal security agency the cell had bomb making equipment and had been planning attacks in Israeli cities Ottomar as national disaster agency has officially ended the search for survivors in the area worst hit by the eruption of the Frager volcano 2 weeks ago 110 people have been confirmed dead so far b.b.c. News Welcome back to this Russian edition of global beats with me James Kamar Sami . I. Have otherwise known as I speak. I see 3 peek if you want to look them up and if you do you'll be confronted with very graphic horror. Whiten faces change glowering expressions but when I speak to you speak they sound rather pleasant. I think right now we can say that we make. Music and I see your Instagram you describe yourself as a Russian horror fairy tale character that's correct yeah it's. Ironic but it's mythological a way to describe our project because of the create some narrative and our music is pretty dark Well we'll talk us through some of your songs I mean talk about. Sad bitch 1st of all tell us about that song this song is called because. Because. This concept of happiness which we have to follow all the time and. Kind of weird you know normal or something else and in this song I'm saying that that's Ok to be said to be. Yourself and to express yourself. You don't have to be a nice girl all the time also you can make your career you can make everything by yourself and that's not a reason to call you a so-called beach usually you know Russia for example people call women who are really independent and who'll do everything by their selves and I'm naming myself in this song and beach it's more like feminists way like now I call myself beach so you don't have this power anymore. Money will. Be said that there's this pressure to appear happy is it especially true do you think for women in Russia today yeah for sure because you really have to be you have to provide man we've come far too with sex with beauty and it takes a lot of work and lots of time it's going to you know so everything a lot of fans are doing you don't have a and it's time for yourself and for your own development. This one lyric the translational new video says I'll be 60 on your marble floor What's what does that refer to I'm talking this song that luxury life is not my style that's not my aim I don't care that much about money I'm sick of all this luxury and glorious things which people show to other people like that's the main point of their life and then I just throw up on the wheel that everything I do like my art kind of what's the reaction been to that particular song Oh a lot of mixed reactions it's whether this song goes. I want to kill this girl I want to kill this guy. Or it's like lazing I feel like this song describes myself describes my life so it's super polarizing right it's cool I think it's a good sign when it's so polarizing and when they say we want to kill you I mean is that serious is that an actual threat or you know it's like internet trolling seriously you know it's like a lot of men you had a guy in Russia and saw this video and became super angry so I could go what does she think about herself why she is showered soon they just don't understand it they afraid it and then they're angry it was like that from the beginning of the phone project because that's what Sergeant I didn't sing at 1st I was like going and a lot of rice usually male guys they were like What the hell why she's screaming she can sing she's a girl she should be beautiful nice and she should sing sing beautiful Yeah like she can't express herself in a new and different way. Than. I was making it more for girls I'm happy that some girls they love this song and they can like find themselves in this there to hear oh that's the main point coming. And. Tell us about the song go with the flow because that also had quite a reaction didn't yes like the song itself didn't have any you know negative reaction to it because I think not many people got what this song was about but then we filmed in Brazil it was like our reply on the governmental or that was imposed on. The career people the homosexual propaganda law homosexual propaganda yeah forgot the house in English the homosexual propaganda war and. We went to Brazil to play a gig and then the same time with it we do it with amazing career crowd to who danced and kissed each other who we have these super beautiful pieces in that we do about a 2 man keys to each other and it was like our reply on this wall because there we felt that people should love her child the numbers for awards are there people all governmental think. It's. Just the the fixed it was a really loud in Russia like a lot of media told about food and it was pretty cool yeah and I couldn't actually film internationally because if we wanted to. Found something. That could take carry 6 to participate in this I mean you had problems I didn't you in terms of concerts being can get without some concert cancelled no one told us like that's because of this media but it happened and right after immediately immediately after and it's like several concerts you know or is there anything that you wouldn't say Is there anything. Any lines that you wouldn't cross that you'd be perhaps too scared too intimidated to say no no no no no I don't think so we can say whatever we want yet because the music is not censored that much she had We're not there yet in Russia I think we may come to that point because of some Russian song that was actually banned in Russia like a month ago although you know have some issues from time to time but it's not about politics yet yet yet we're working on new album now and it will be much more political than previous more directly political Yeah yeah we can be like some file media activists in our own Hilda music and that's so cool that we can speak out and that we can show people that there could be done some changes in our country. Not that. They give us a lot of inspiration and confidence. What about the platforms you know there's been this attempt to shut down telegrams for example does that concern you that actually the ways that you get the music out to the people who want to listen might not be there yeah yeah it's going so there's a lot you obviously travel and you made a video and how important is international exposure to you that's very important here is so important to see and to feel how other people think and how they leave. And when you live in a country which was close to it for a very very long time and everything here is a big different from the world it's important and. Than that if things can be different and they can be different in your country also. Can. Be inevitable I speak and from the Dark Side time to go into the light. Is a d.j. And singer with a band called Love and she lives and works in Katherine Burke in central Russia but her family's roots are to the south in Azerbaijan So it's not why her self consciously sunny music appears to Brother Bach the gloomy Russian trend. I would say that it gave me that Sun The Sun invite the positive side I love bright color is I love readings you know like gold like deep sea you know. Some people in the mix me with Spanish they say like you're Spanish I I look a bit different my skin is a bit dark darker than in people in West so usually have. The Harry stark and also I have curly here a lot of it so it's pretty strange sometimes people coming try to touch it and check it out if it is real or not ask me like out is that every I'm like No it's your real hair I'm like yes there. Are any of your your songs that you write yourself to they have specific Azerbaijani influences I don't think there is have like a specific influence but it has a beat you know Flamingo you know something of beat from a 2nd e.p. It has these precautions. And different kinds of drums and so it makes me feel a whole you know. And also there is this song in love and that love and the 1st album cold so we talk lower so we recorded the rhythm like as they've written he's written we have a friend he's from to take a stand. And is a bit close to is a great turn like cording to music vibe in stuff and this guy of us playing this kind of tuna and we put it into a song and these very special thing made this song so certainly you know with. The only. Natural. That I think. That. That is within a set that doesn't look. A little. Bit of the. 6 damn damn. Damn enactments. And that they're. That they're young. They're just like as Dad Dad Oh well it's been that the good men that I know and I. Didn't stand a. Lot I wonder come on the guy. That just what I said he was a Brand New Yorker. I mean that also. Doesn't. 8 Get us through the ground with. Nobody. I know. Jack. A. Lot of the music comes out of Russia these days seems to be quite dark quite depressing you're doing something different what are your observations about that too many people are listening to dark stuff and this dark by bin music is getting more and more popular and I was always thinking like it might be that I don't understand something I mean I understand that there is always the sun and the rain always a day and night you know steal sometimes but never you listen to some lyrics and the message that the person is trying to say and you get really upset like what really like do you feel then you need almost to make a different type of music you feel it's your gag you feel like you need to save something yeah you need to save and just get more and more people and into another site there are so many things that make us upset you know or we have to do as a musician. I think we have to give this very feeling not always you know Sunny feelings always positive feelings but even sadness like the said feeling can be beautiful you know and know that aggressive and dark you know. Working on it like. Will. And tell us about you've got to remember what sort of cities that like yeah I was city located in the border between Europe and Asia. We got through real mountings we got wonderful in the mazing nature around everywhere being your own nature is so important I get so much inspiration just being around this green wonderland of today and people here in the real area of very interesting because so many beautiful musicians beautiful graffiti artists beautiful writer it's we got this attitude of all the city be to be together we have in the center of the city Latina dances just next to the river where people meet dance to the 9 together we also got the music nights when olden like there's every sport every tier to every museum has music stage from tempo very like Russian music to. Some more dance styles and everywhere people walk all night from one spot to another spot just listening to music there is such a magic atmosphere in the air you know. More of a d.j. Beat and singer although the focus of this program is on the music it's been pretty hard to avoid the political context while we've been in Moscow and the next interviewee has invited us to speak to him at a place which symbolizes the tensions between the artistic community and the Kremlin and it is the Global Center it's theatrical space which puts on contemporary works and its director. Of has been on the house arrest for several months on charges of embezzlement although the artistic community is adamant it's because of his nonconformist views we're here to meet a musician he's passionate about his music and his politics. You'd probably call Alexander might not go over classical composer but as you'll discover you probably shouldn't he finds out. He's written everything from symphonies and operas to film schools and recorded albums of songs that he sings himself. Tell you. What drives the tell that he. Is not the brutally. Could you tell us why you believe. Literary burning in the one. When I was sitting in the lobby of center who's artistic director kill Cedarbrook of his now sadly under home arrest why didn't he simply fleet which certainly was able to His so much in demand in Europe as an operative actor but he's here he didn't want to he stayed here because he thinks it's his life's task to do something here to do something for the country do you feel similarly Yeah we have patriots we love this place not the people who say that they do and that's why they will I don't know occupy Ukraine or threaten everyone with nuclear weapons like they do we're not represented in the media not in the state controlled media anyway we're not represented in the media landscape outside of Russia on the b.b.c. For example so mistake is actually being mended right now thanks to you thank you we really appreciate that this is me you know saying to the listeners we are here and we are also Russia Russia is not just thought exists occupying Ukraine Russia is also people working in Ukraine I have collaboration is with Ukrainian musicians I have concerts in Kiev cargo and so on we don't have anyone in the Parliament not a single member of the so-called Russian parliament they don't represent us even remotely Not to mention the so-called president self elected president of Russia so we can't do anything of that on that level but we can do a lot on our own level. A. Little on the floor. It's. Getting to. The. Ears but it's. Not the live. First the only. The latest poll right at the. Polling. Booth and this is the power elite to. Many artists I thought we should be more active politically I think that politics the very time politics is redundant I believe it has no value kindness love such things as these and eventually if they are universally acquired in the society some norms of behavior. That's how a ball into a different society not through a clash What impact does all of this have on your music on your compositions everything somehow affects what we do but. You have to be sure that you're creating something more than just a manifestation of your political views or attitude to some recent events you have to create something that would be possible to play 20 years later and where does classical music modern classical music fit in today's music scene in Moscow if you come to a contemporary music or the late 20th century music concerts in Vienna or in London the audience the average age of the audience would be like people in their. Fifty's and sixty's they seem to find it difficult to draw in the younger audience the situation is really different here here it's a hip saying so we happened to be on the covers of magazines you know we are the hip people like I don't know d.j. Or someone who belongs rather to pop culture I know that you're asking a question from a completely different structural context So you're saying like modern contemporary classical music we don't even call it that way which is a contemporary music you can have a composer could landscape of you know publish an idea. Record intelligent dance music Yes and also an opera or a couple of operators we have an ordinance that's ready to consume something without this system of genres which I think is great. And Xander scoffed bringing this exploration of new Russian music to a close I hope you found it inspiring this program and all previous editions of global beats are available to listen to again on the b.b.c. Website just search for b.b.c. Global. 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World Service I'm James Menendez coming up today voting is drawing to a close in Colombia as presidential run off with a stark choice on offer We'll be live in Bogota Also today. Protests in the u.s. Over the children separated from their parents when families and illegally now Malani a trump swayed into the debate Plus we'll talk to the New Yorker who spent 24 years trying to resolve the dispute over Macedonia is name. In the early. 100 percent in some way some years of realization that some sort of compromise was essential and the jazz jock Marcus Miller talks to us about how that Rika and eating Miles Davis' spicy steam so after the news. Well I'm Marion Marshall with the b.b.c. News the American 1st Lady Maloney a Trump has issued a statement saying she hates seeing children separated from their parents and she calls the immigration reform in the United States a comments follow growing controversy over her husband's 0 tolerance policy towards illegal migrants members of the u.s. Congress of visiting a detention center close to the Mexican border Chris Buckley reports from Washington children have been separated from the families of the u.s. Border because they cannot be held with their parents in prison a new facilities including one consisting merely of tents are having to be opened to accommodate the growing numbers of migrant children the 1st lady millennia Trump has released a rare statement in which she calls for both Democrats and Republicans to work together on a solution that doesn't require family separations and in what some might interpret as quite pointed words she says America needs to be a country that follows laws but also governs with heart $629.00 migrants at the center of a roué European immigration policy a spending their 1st night on dry land for more than a week 3 vessels took the mostly African migrants to the Spanish port of l.n. Syria after a rescue ship the Aquarius was refused entry the 1st by Italy and then by Malta the lens is met as you describe it in his decision as inhuman on the his CNS these are decisions that I find tolerable because they don't respect human rights they are decisions that don't respect international agreement about which boards to use after rescue and these are decisions which if we allow them to happen would tend to made it their own entity into a mass grave in football there's been a shock result in the World Cup with the reigning champions Germany being beaten one nil by Mexico Alex Capstick reports Germany arrived in Russia as the defending champions and one of the favorites and that big Mexico in all of the previous World Cup and counters but they were given an almighty shock by a Mexican side that came racing out of the blocks at lightning speed roared on by the noisy fanatical.

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