I mean if he. Chose a Marine years 1st home game as Tottenham manager sees them pull off a comeback win in the Champions League. This is b.b.c. 5. Jeremy Corbin's insisted there is no place whatsoever for anti semitism in labor but refused to apologize for his record on tackling it he was asked to say sorry 4 times in a b.b.c. Interview after the chief rabbi criticised how the party had dealt with the issue now political correspondent is Nick this is an issue that has plagued the Labor party for words of 3 years now is not a new one yet there is a feeling within the Jewish community that the Labor leadership has just been unable to deal with if you take the words the chief rabbi they are scathing settling there's any doubt this will damage Jeremy Coren we just can't be sure of the extent of the s.n.p. Leader Nicholas sturgeon will launch the policies and action manifesto later with a warning that Bracks it is nowhere near done she will also say there is worse to come if Boris Johnson wins a majority all Scotland correspondent is James Shaw all of which means the s.n.p. Will be willing to support a minority Labor government but only at a price $1.00 part of that price will be an independence referendum another will be a big increase in spending on the n.h.s. Across the United Kingdom that they say will amount to 4000000000 pounds extra within 5 years in Scotland alone Donald Trump has been invited to next week's public impeachment hearings in Congress ought to send a lawyer to ask questions on his behalf Democrats say he should either take part in the process or stop complaining about how it works. Fresh talks will be held later today to try to prevent a strike at one of Britain's biggest rail companies members of the our Mt union working for Southwestern railway and you talk out for 27 days in December and a long running dispute about guards on trains new research suggests more than half of parents with children under the age of 5 experience loneliness at least some of the time the figures from the charity Coram family and childcare also show twice as many parents on the lowest incomes also often feel isolated Clare Harding is from the charity we know that in large parts of the country best really good activities already available but sometimes that just they just not accessible to pets so for example in one more look malaria we found that while there were Stone plays and wine times and those activities going on in the buses will be explosive the parents they were just saying they couldn't afford to go and Twitter is to begin deleting accounts that haven't been active for at least 6 months as part of a huge cull the site says because users who do not log in consecrates who is updated privacy policies eases have until the 11th of December sport now his. Job as a Marine is torn and produce a thrilling fall to victory over m.p.r. Course in the Champions League in the manager's 1st home game in charge Tottenham were 2 nil down until just before half time that when put them through to the last 16 elsewhere Manchester City drew 11 at home with Chuck Todd on the ask to qualify as group winners generated needed a Jack Harrison header in the 87th minute to win one Miller reading takes leads back up to the top of the championship the England cricket head coach Chris Silverwood will return home after day 2 of the 2nd Test match in New Zealand following a family bereavement assistant coaches Graham Thorpe and Paul Collingwood as well as Test captain Joe Root will take charge for the remainder of the New Zealand tour bath will miss England back until he was in with a knee injury until at least Christmas club captain Charlie you will. 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News well it's time to dive in to the mail storm that has New Yorkers we join Mark Riley Hello Mark. Right how are you. Very deeply grateful that neither of us is and Colorado tonight doesn't sound like the best place to be No I'm deeply grateful my daughter graduated from the University of Colorado so she's not enduring this this time around she's in Thailand Oh well better better less Yeah oh yeah yeah no snow I. Well it's a frantic time though isn't it for many parents you know you really hoping that the kids get home and time yeah yeah I mean that part of the country. You know when they don't as much as 32 inches of snow. Pretty much everything is paralyzed you know the airports the roads it takes time to clean the roads and of course you know Colorado is very mountainous the Rockies run through there so between net and the wind it can be quite a problem. Well let's focus a. Tire lay on the surrounding bar as. Perhaps you can tell us what's happening yeah now Rod I have to say to start I was hesitant to put this particular item on but I decided to do it anyway the Museum of Sex and I think New York is the only place in the universe that has a museum of 6 percent Superfund land journey or is it your own way where is the Museum of say how do we get it's on the Lower 5th Avenue like run in the twenty's maybe 2627 street. So this particular Superfund land is not preachy Oldring nor is it for the faint of heart then she fell an interactive theatrical experience is that Kings Island ward in Williamsburg Brooklyn which is the epicenter of everything and this one is for the girls for women singing songs from the past 100 years is that it is on an open run at the St Lucie here in Hell's Kitchen. Good very good well at least one of these is pasta fit for the entire family. Where laid off in Hell's Kitchen but there you are sort of a it's a very nice interesting neighborhood these days Hell's Kitchen Oh yeah yeah my brother I actually work in Hell's Kitchen and my brother lives he's lived in Hell's Kitchen since 1906. It's a fascinating place and and still has a genuine Scottish pub I might say oh yeah a restaurant rule of a good place anyway. I know we've got a guest as we do before we get to talking about all the stories in the plenty of stories perhaps you'd like to introduce I'm sure our guest is Bob Henley he works for the chief leader which is the leading newspaper and website that follows the unions in New York Bob has worked and reported for The Village Voice Pacifica Radio w n y c c.b.s. Money Watch salon and many many other outlets and he is an expert on New York City cause he's been around for a long long time Bob Henry How you doing or I don't feel that I shouldn't. Absolutely now I have to say ride one story that New Yorkers are certainly following very closely is you now it's meant by our former Mayor Mike Bloomberg that he's going to run for president and now he has decided to spend in unprecedented 31000000 dollars in broadcast t.v. Ad buys I don't know how long it's going to last New York City is I think getting 1600000 and let me ask Bob because Bob You covered the mayor when he was certainly did all bloody 12 years. What do you think it is does he have a puncher's chance here I think that it's great for the Democratic brand in that right at the point that you noticed the ratings were dropping precipitously and the d.n.c. Corporate media news production debates this cycle of debates just are dropping like a stone if it was commercial radio or television it would have been canceled already you know Mayor Bloomberg comes in with these deep pockets and if you notice the commercials that have been done take direct aim at Donald Trump I will say that I'm not up for another round of this thing Mark you know what happens that we knew would have Giuliani not to be America's mayor and yet strangely he was here in New Donald Trump to be involved with the Russians and in a ferry as operator and yet he became president so Michael Bloomberg being someone who is like you know. A philanthropist and it's of course our image of him is very different because during his tenure there were a tremendous impact on the queen in particular because I controversial stop and frisk program where they were stopping I think it got operate several 100000 young men of color and not producing just like I think 3 or 4 percent arrest which really create. It this this racially only nation and by the way cost a $1000000000.00 to settle claims related to bad police behavior which this data point doesn't get out there so while he has certainly a track record when it comes or philanthropy public help global warming and organizing Mayors Against Guns in terms of covering the city he was it did this a character absolutely right yes into Hey Bob are you great thank you thank you for a call you talk to us I mean we. What do we know about Mayor Bloomberg we know that there's a company which bears his name and it's been pretty successful has a media company which a lot of people have worked for at least have gone through. Right it certainly is a global powerhouse and it's something that you know he just to let folks know who may not be familiar he is a self-made billionaire he did work his way through college park cars there is an authentic story there kind of a racial Welter story but the problem is that once he made that wealth I think he was disconnected from the actual experience of people that were struggling and during the period of time that he was in the city there there was just this this tremendous problem with the disappearance of affordable housing and we became the kind of place where multinational capital develop these areas because there was a declining client crime rate and it a push normal people into the hinterlands So the people that I my audience would go right for which are households that have people that are teachers school teachers firefighters members the departments and Taishan people that make the city run were forced to move further and further out and the reality is many of these palaces and I think when it has the same phenomena where you have it's occupied from like White Christmas to New Years address the time it's taken it's a great place for dictators an oligarchy to stash money that's really what turns it and it's own of course this is the the complex that we have as tourists to New York you know we come to New York and it's such a safe place these days you know relatively speaking. And it should take clean place again used to be. And you say well that sort of started with with Bloomberg but it. Is not the story telling that it really is so. Great Actually the African-American mayor David Dinkins we started saying things starting getting a control what was happening in the city and one of the things is that is true we need to focus on that I think in the 1990 s. I was. It's went over like $2200.00 a year now it's under $300.00 which is stunning but I would suggest I would submit to you that the secret sauce here which is not talked about in this country not was a half 1000000 individuals undocumented immigrants that came in made New York their own because as someone that's covered neighborhoods at the granular level what to undocumented immigrants bring to the table faith family and work and so they stabilize neighborhoods where other people can't find value the challenge then becomes for them do a little forward stay there but indeed it was a combination of intelligent policing we diversified our police force it became a force where if you spoke a foreign language at home it wasn't something to be ashamed of and you could pretty much write your own ticket whether Was far as your whatever it was and they began to match the language skills of the police officers with those authentic neighborhoods and that's that's the whole picture it wasn't just great policing but it was the cohesion and that was helped through by undocumented immigrants to a large extent that's something you certainly don't hear in Donald Trump's America . You know he hates to what a great guy who was mayor when Trump was built the new and got all of it is oh gosh Martin So I mean cotch wasn't touched that being it was right was said right actually right and he got over on him but that was such a different city because we had come through a situation the famous cover you know for to New York drop dead the financial crisis where this city and this is pre 2008 this was a real meltdown and that actually was the civil servants of public unions at Save New York people forget that chapter but it was them putting their pensions at risk to stabilize the city and at that time I mean the idea that you put money at risk in Times Square is a place is it was a fanciful notion and of course trying to exploit it that you had a lot of experience because. It learned it is daddy's name oh yeah for sure and I mean you know one of the great untold stories about it Cutch and I was stunned when a mutual acquaintance of ours the late Wayne Barrett told me this do you know what it costs build more affordable housing in New York City than any mayor before or since I think that's because of anything yeah I mean it's amazing to contemplate but you know the thing about stop and frisk and Bob pointed this out I think it hit a high of 680000 people were stopped and stopped questioned and for us and you know in the mayoral race of 2013 the whole notion was that if you discontinued stopping 1st the crime rate would go back up there was a whole lot of talk about the bad old days and in fact after stopping for it affectively ended the crime rate continued to drop and so all those days shares were on that level proven wrong right and that was the societal cohesion that was in place which is not discussed and it was also I mean in my lifetime the police department went through this transformation in terms of looking like this city that it polices along with these undocumented immigrants that found a value were other people found a wasteland yeah very true has very interesting by the way just said look in a coincidence that the Labor Party had a an event yesterday in the middle of the British election campaign of which they announced plans to scrap random stop and such as by the police to live on the other it's reading it's writing. You know but you know bombings are very salient point about you know immigrants in New York 37 percent of New York residents were born in a foreign country that's an extraordinarily high percentage probably higher than most other cities in the country and the contributions they've made to the life of the city are very difficult to calculate but they are certainly most certainly positive people think that undocumented workers don't pay taxes they don't do this they take they take they take and in New York everybody knows that's nonsense but it's also I think history right during Mr Giuliani's tenure as mayor there was in essence a tacit sanctuary rule where municipal officials and police officers were not permitted to make inquiry about your immigration status so when Giuliani was tasked with running the city he understood you can't do that because the cohesion of social order comes apart when you start trying to win force federal immigration laws when people are already settled at that point all you're doing is destroying community. Now I just want to ask and we're going to get a little bit outside of New York as you know Bob writes for Salon dot com. You didn't go we have to make it obvious that you know with the collapse of the cost for writing now so we have to make it up on volume. But Bob wrote a very interesting piece about farmers in Iowa farmers in Iowa who largely in 2016 supported Donald Trump based on the fact that he was going to do something for them and apparently that has not borne fruit right well it's actually there is one of the things that's discussed but I guess if you can and down to the ground of the local press. There has been in much of America no real economic recovery and this was the thing that caused the crate surprised by corporate news media when Trump was elected I did not I was not surprised I'm not a fan but I was not surprised I had been to places like Cleveland where there were 6000 empty homes a lot of people don't realize as I was statesman like as President Obama was in there was much to recommend to do miss him sorely. During his tenure millions of millions of people lost their homes and this was most. Heavily felt in the African-American community so this is a cruel historic irony that while African-Americans may have attended the White House. Many of them lost their own home and then. The financial crisis Bob but he actually it's right it's still with us it's still with us to this day and the problem is that our reporting here is based on was brought to you by t.v. America make that sale make it's all based on the stock market so the perceptions people have about their own circumstance are based on. Unemployment numbers about the United States and I submit to you that and the aggregate data point is irrelevant to that because no one lives in the aggregate no went though it's there either and that's what happened you had about 200 some odd counties that voted for President Obama for Hope and Change 20082012 then it just didn't come to their neighborhood and that's true with 3 of the 4 congressional districts in Iowa that's exactly what happened and my concern here is that the Democrats by focusing as they need to for history on the impeachment drama are missing the continue to tear ration of the United States from a social standpoint I'll give you an example do you know that for the last 3 years the average life expectancy in the United States has declined and that hasn't happened since World War One average expected 7 aback a male is 77 I think but it's declining so if we were developing country and we had i.m.f. Loans they said you know we'd like to extend your credit but your your data points aren't really upbeat Let's revisit that shall we you know you know it's just what happens So Bob you think do you think Bloomberg has a realistic shot I mean he's not the world's greatest debater by the way I've seen him in that situation but the other side of it is that people outside of New York don't have the kind of hot blooded view that a lot of New Yorkers haves I'll never vote for people in the rest of the country don't seem that way necessarily doing the I think that they're looking. At the following kind of mathematical assumption I would goes to somebody New Hampshire goes to somebody else South Carolina goes to. Ice President Biden done from the hinterlands comes the cry for Bloomberg I mean I think they think that there's an awful lot of money awash up there up there and you know I'm out with this and I don't know that they're really in touch with the circumstance that we've been talking about which is rising suicide opioid crisis and this continuing steady deterioration in the United States in places that quite frankly if I ever media doesn't even know exist do you think that his apology about stop and frisk will resonate with black voters in New York. I can tell you as I spent today because we are actually in a very militant town right now in New York City I mean this city council legislative staffers are organizing a union and so that's like I mean it's a polo acted official staff now imagine how crazy that is that these are local legislators the Minnesota level who've been just you know so militant union type folks for private sector and all of a sudden their staff the people that get their coffee and their teeth want to start a union so we're in a very militant face here in the United States which doesn't get We've had more strikes and I think since 1986 so that that's part of the overall climate we've had teachers striking for better social conditions and for improved pay and so we don't get labor reporting that at state so that's environment that Michael Bloomberg is walking into is it is a generation and keep this in mind that you know Ok so. Cortez for these young people their world is bookended. 911 and the great recession. So I don't think he's aware of how militant these youngsters are and lay on a climate crisis if you wouldn't buy and that's quite important book and I think for most of them too it is but I think that there is this 9 I mean calm Klein brings this out there's a tension between great global couple and pollution is can you have people jet setting all over the place in this huge the oligarchy said all the sudden we're going to stick the climate so where they didn't maybe we might have the issue might be the concentration of wealth that creates this kind of up of the top luxury existence and I don't know how Michael's going to handle that question what can we talk about just for a minute. Let's bring this up because I talked about the when it's going to be a bit of a disaster isn't it if the if the balloons don't fly at the Macy's parade. Well yeah there's there's expectation and I'm down and on the Jersey shore in a place called Neptune which is like planet away worried about gale force winds but then of course there's videotape which will go to it won't cut it in so the folks at home know there's a point to it I know that my last local story I did before I came home was the local fire department in New York City is concerned because we have thousands and thousands of people coming to see the Rockaway Christmas tree to come become an iconic stop so they want to close roads around. Around the tree in Rockefeller Center and if you are someone who is a 1st responder This is a nightmare and so while all the newspapers are talking about how they'll be additional room for the big extremes. My readership is concerned like how are we going to get there in the event of an emergency so I'm always kind of a contrary. So the blue state doesn't really bother you now does not I mean I remember one year they had a balloon didn't come down and to streetlamps telling a woman had Yeah you know my brother lived on 72nd Street and I had a pad there crossing the Dakota and I remember that we had small children at the time it was like everyone's got to go to Christopher's and it was like well you can see the loans and like it could but you had to look the other way. You know where you know they're really been since then since that lady was she was in a coma for a period of time and he was in 1907 and that's when they started all these regulations that if the wind is above a certain certain mph they will either have to lower the balloons or they won't put them out. Looks like that's a lot of duty. Because Bob you really do have a great perspective on things a breath of fresh air to talk to you must admit well the bodies of water one of the other 2 of you together like this like some kind of it's amazing how a nation I got to tune in. Well we love talking to each other etc You could go on like this for. But probably as well that we are limited to just one race but we had a fantastic time with you and thank you very much for being on my doorstep nation by the way I figure that's my Twitter enough so if you want to follow this crazy life where I am doing this kind of Ground 0 reporting I match technician stuff super trip we are handling what a pleasure. Well we'll come back Mark in a few minutes time and talk a few more New York Stories with your next guest but our people wait until we tell you who that is it's just after us 2. On digital b.b.c. Census street various b.b.c. Radio 5 live here in the news a Sarah Green Jeremy Corbin's come under pressure to apologize for the way Labor has dealt with claims of anti semitism in the party but he's refused to say sorry in a b.b.c. Interview he said a Labor government would protect every community against abuse Nicholas sturgeon is expected to c'est outs how the s.n.p. Could work with Labor after the election when she launches the party's manifesto later she also warned that Bracks it is nowhere near done Donald Trump has again attacks the impeachment inquiry against him calling it a deranged witch hunt he's been invited to attend the next hearings in Congress by Democrats who say he should take part all stop complaining about the process and searches Yes bad dreams may have a positive benefit by helping to control our fears when we're awake teams in Switzerland and the us found the area of the brain which controls fear responses was more effective for now his. Victory for the new manager as a Marine you know on his home debut a high scoring comeback win the qualification for the Champions League last 16 hours to Bruce Paul watched a good night for Tottenham against Olympiacos this is definitely a different version of Joe same radio a 32 win at West Ham in his 1st game of 4 to win this one great entertainment unpredictability some poor goals conceded but a really abysmal 1st half performance in this game which saw them to nail down a minute before the break then inexplicably Yaseen marry a Mr Easy clearance Delhi early gratefully stop the ball into an open goal and Marino was able to work his magic in the dressing room his team came out supercharged in the 2nd. Hard how he came quickly had them level off to one of the ball boys helped facilitate a quick throw he got a hug from Marino for that surgery a Finnish Martley to get the home team in front and Cain headed in the 4th to send taught me to the knockout stages with a spring in their step happy home Debbie for the boss Pep Guardiola meanwhile says it's mission accomplished after his Manchester City side bought their place in the Champions League last 16 as well for a 7th successive season despite city only managing a 11 draw at home against Shakhtar Donetsk city qualify as group winners Well the reigning European champions Liverpool can also qualify for the knockout stage if they be Napoli at Anfield Wednesday night's match is the start of a run of fixtures which will see Liverpool play 13 games across 5 competitions in 40 days left back Andy Robinson though says it shows they're doing well you know if you ask me whether my jump into the meadow for you know less fractures then absolutely not so for me the fixtures you know it's clear that ties in it because of our success and. That's something that we've got to look out of court to deposit in the Championship Leeds United are back on top after a wonder when reading the England cricket head coach Chris Silverwood will return home this Saturday after day 2 of the 2nd Test against New Zealand that follows a family bereavement his assistants Graham Thorpe and Paul Collingwood will take charge for the rest of the tour in golf the Ladies European Tour will merge with the l.p.g. Which could see their members fast tracked into more lucrative tournament's in the us the Ladies European Tour Order of Merit will also be renamed the race to cost of Del Sol from next year and offer increased prize money here's Scottish golfer Carly booth so now got some 200600004 this event especially going to finish our year next year it's a great way to end our season as well as the fact that you have signed up for an event in Saudi for a 1000000 as well so I think the impact of these events are really going to have more arts more and hopefully really for Nancy help the sponsors to get more money towards our prize. And in rugby union Alan Clarke has left his role as all sprays head coach after a poor start to the thieves and they have won only one thing 6 pro 14 games and lost heavily to Munster and Saracens in the European Champions Cup in the Premiership Meanwhile Botha said to be without England back Anthony Watson and club captain Charlie you will for several weeks both are out with knee injuries Russia latest from b.b.c. Sport. B.b.c. Sounds. Hello I'm an Adonis I talk to the people in power and I aim to get answers from them on the issues and questions democracy is so hard to say from the beginning. Of the question straight as I do is in fact statements like this because sorry I'm boring you and the. B.b.c. Sound. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 available on the b.b.c. Sounds. Right. Back with Mark Riley and just before I ask Mark to introduce our guest I just want you to tell us in case we just don't manage anywhere else to tell us a little bit about 82 year old William r.f.e. Who's quite an extraordinary homeowner. Oh yeah she's an award winning weight lifter again Brian is correct She's 82 years old she lives upstate upstate New York Rochester and last Thursday somebody broke into our house they broke into the wrong person whose house she apparently picked up at table and started beating the guy over the head with the table and she said quote I picked up the table and I went to work on it she jumped on him on top of that she grabbed a bottle of shampoo imported all rules face and then she grabbed the broom and started to beat him with it. So she made sure we're going to guy and by the time the cops got there this is 82 year old weightlifter said the suspect then ospital he had to go to the hospital. Kharif. Of course said it was all and the fence of the property and should do all again oh yeah she do it again but you know what ironically enough she refused to press charges on the guy. You know actually had enough I really did a number on that man. 82 years old folks. Right never to never too late to start lifting those weights. Video of her and she's pressing I look tired I'm not sure is it pressing but she's lifting. Something like 125 pounds 225 yeah yeah she's in the ward where she has a world national world natural powerlifting Federation upstate New York championship right well with that suitable a warrant to go anywhere near well. Let's talk to our next guest tell us tell us about him Well 1st of all he's a good friend I've known this gentleman for a very very long time he is the musical host at the con at the iconic New York venue called the loft and his name is Douglas Sherman Doug how you doing I'm good Marc good good glad you hear me. Thank you for having me yeah now I well I may be right that we could start out by asking Doug how he came to be involved in love he's been there for what 40 years now yeah I had my 1st experience was going in 1979 through a friend well maybe we should have a little background about the law 1st and say oh yeah let's let's do that Doug by the way hello yes Mark has quite often spoken about it to us and we know it's a pretty amazing venue but I'd love to hear what you've got to say about it. Ok well the loft is the longest running underground invitation only party in New York right now it was founded by David Mack who so in 1970 he had done a few parties before that and he decided he wanted to make it a recurring party and it began on Valentine's Day in 1970 and it was really really didn't have a name yet it was just an invitation he sent out to a small group of friends and it was he called it a love saves the day and it grew very quickly over a short period of time and. It remains an invitation only party David. Became an audio file over the years and evolve the sound system and the whole experience that really just becomes one that folks who are able to experience it find that you can really. Be elevated by this whole experience through the music and the interaction with folks on the dance floor and so we'd like we think of the dance floor as our spiritual common ground because that's where really we all come together and David always felt that's where the focus should be is on the dancers and the dance floor and he really rendered himself invisible because he didn't want to d.j. With a musical host to be a focal point and part of that comes out of I think you know the surrender of your of the ego and all things you know that that kind of associate with that and part of that also was David's experimentation with l.s.d. And coming out of the whole Timothy Leary experience and that also kind of formed one of the pillars the underlying pillars of of this party so this idea of reaching a higher level of awareness through music and and this kind of social interaction with folks was David's idea of social progress. I don't know Mark what you have and I don't have anything to well I mean one thing Rod that I think informs people about a lot of people who've been there is that it really is like no other place it's there's not another I mean there are literally and have been hundreds if not thousands of clubs that have opened and closed over the years the loft has may remain remarkably consistent and it's for me it's like going somewhere and plugging yourself into a gigantic communal battery and you get this feeling when you're among all these folks and you don't know all of them some people hardly know any of them but David really was about inclusion even though it was an invitation only party you could go to loft to this day and you'll see people with their infant children up on their shoulders dancing away you know it was always open to as long as you were a member or a guest of a member you could you know. Age was not something that was a big deal to him he all he loved kids always loved children he passed away in 2016 . And the sad fact is nothing has come along over the over all these years because going to be picked the years next February nothing has come along to replicate it and the social progress that has gone on and the back that there were many people in the early days who were gay and who had been thrown out of their homes their parents just flatly refused to accept the fact that they were gay and the loft was a place for them to go where they were not judged for being gay it was not a gay space but it was a space where people of varying backgrounds vary income levels the whole varying colors all came together and just danced and felt something communal I mean loft was one of few places I've ever been where you could walk from one end of the dance floor to the other and not get elbowed by get hit in the head by anybody people were always respectful even the most demonstrative dancers were always respectful of other people in the space they were very protective Yeah of the entire space and I think when you can also describe it as really a safe space for people to gather if there's really I think if they if you asked David where where what would be the starting point for for this it would begin with safety he would often say he would say to me over the years one thing you can never compromise is the safety of your guests so it was very important to him to start with a space that had a 2nd means of egress that had you know a certain amount of things in taken into consideration to be sure that people could that their safety was was of concern and that they can get out if needed if they needed to and really the music and the. Musical selection aspect of it was the kind of the last that would be the end of it you know every There were so many other part moving parts to this party that that David really was consumed by in so many ways when I 1st went in 1979 it was like unlike really any any experience I had had a Up to that point I think was 19 years old I was in college and this was completely unlike anything I had experienced in the venue's I had traveled through at that point in New York City and I think 11 really strong memory is how people came together on the dance floor when certain records came on it was it was like. It was like being in church and having this this this communal. Spirit Spirit Yeah and you know I got a story about the last ride and maybe maybe this would in light and some people about it when my daughter who's now 22 years old was small she was like about 6 or 7 I took it to the law right and you know we've she was she was like fascinated by all the colors in the music and all that and suddenly she had this kind of pained look on her face I said What's the matter she's dead I got to go to the bathroom so you know I wasn't at that point even though prior to that David used to have unisex bathrooms I wasn't necessarily comfortable going into a ladies room with my daughter so this lesbian couple came up and they looked at her and they looked at me and said the she need to go to the bathroom I sort of course yes she does kind of sort of so I said Ok well we'll take her in don't worry about it they took her in the bathroom she did what she had to do she came back out and was happy as all get out now I told that story on The Wendy Williams Show on the radio and Guy by the name of Charlemagne who was no big deal radio host How could you do that how could you how could you let somebody so some lesbians that you don't even know take your daughter into the bows to because it was a lark that's why it's as simple as that and right it really is almost indescribable. Yeah it's really like a large extended family of folks who come together on the dance floor that's really like I said this Our spiritual common ground really was the dance floor where everyone came together and it was. Respect and trust and. Joy Yeah and well how many lethal would would there be how many people would there be that one of these parties Well it varied over the years. When I went that particular location he would have anywhere over there you know Wolf the party he would start the doors would open to his guests at midnight and he adds on some occasions would go as late as 4 pm and Sunday afternoon so these were marathon sessions and so over the course of a 1416 hour party you could have anywhere from 800 to 1500 people come through you and there were times you'd be 1200 people on a dance floor. You know it's amazing you made. A great musical contribution to the loft and can you tell us how you came up. Well I don't know if I'd describe it quite as a musical contribution but I think in the you know we for David it really a big part of it is being able to trust people around him with whatever tasks he may he may give them so it was one party where David fell ill and a mutual friend who was part of you know who is very close to David. He Her name is Elise David asked if she could cover for him because he the following You know these parties were every Saturday once a week and he wasn't well enough the following week after he fell ill to to. Perform the task of playing records so he asked Elise and Elise all and I were very friendly and she you know I did the lights next to David and she kind of was familiar that I knew the music pretty well and she has David will could could Douglas you know stand with me and his his thing was as long as you put you know I don't want him touching the turntables or anything like that David had very high end equipment at that time and he used Mitchell Carter turntables and Coates with cartridges and clips on speakers and it really part of the experience was the quality of the just the nature of the sound itself and so Alisa covered his absence for the next 2 weeks and then the 3rd week again David really didn't feel well enough to come back and so at least at that point said you know there's no reason for me to be here Douglas could handle this she she really rather be somewhere else than tied to being in behind a booth. Binah turntables and so David agreed and then at that point David and I had a very very long relationship that was close to went on to close up to his passing which was about 37 years that we've known each other and in that time. Whenever David needed to take an absence. He'd asked me to fill in for him often at the very last minute never given me any advance notice and so you know he would just say Douglas be ready be ready and I said ready for what he says just be ready so he would never let on he would never want you know he avoided that whole thing where you know if I tell you you may be inclined to want to share it with some of your close friends and that's not what this is about so. There and that trust lasted right up to. His passing and that was in November of 2016 you know I mean I used to. When I 1st met David. I would go to the loft like during the week when there was nobody there and we would put on Briony No Music for Airports and all of these different very esoteric pieces of music and we go out and sit cross-legged in the middle of the dance floor and just listen to me we wouldn't even talk to each other we would just listen to this music and at a point you really didn't have to say anything to David about this sort of thing you just kind of absorbed his vibe and what led him to play that particular piece of music and he's Rod we're not dance songs these are you be if you're familiar with music from here well yeah it was very yeah so I mean it was apparently it was yes emotional sort of music but not. Simple with all but you know you know what what strikes me is the audio file element here and I wondered if I could just take you out of a quick detour because I lead such a sheltered life but I have. There are bars which are built around audiophile equipment and where where you go in and somehow somebody is playing records is this is this just a story or are there places really that are like. No I think in London you have Brilliant Corners and I don't and I think there in Japan I think there are a number of. Places where you can you just sit and listen to music on on and audio file system I think for David part of it was being able to go to really get into this. Elevated space I mean that people can get there a number of ways through prayer or meditation through mushrooms or l.s.d. I mean there are really a number of windows that you can pass through to get into this kind of space that that can be very it can can be very. Profound for so many people and music was also another way to enter that space and with David did was he really just invested. So much of the money that came through the parties into the system and created this experience that you couldn't have anywhere else because nobody was paying attention to sound quite the way David was and I think what he really believed was. Out of respect for the musician and the artists who composed and performed the music he really wanted to be truthful to them and wanted to present the music the way they intended it to be heard without manipulation without distortion without any of the things that are more typical of what a d.j. Would do which is nothing wrong with that he didn't object to that just I think from David's perspective he felt it was a greater sense of respect to the art itself to a lot of allow it to be heard the way it was intended and so that led him down the an audio file path where he began to get involved with. The founder of lyric can all this mean I think. Michael Kay Michael Kay Michael Kay who ran in an audiophile shop a high end shop on Lexington Avenue I believe it's still there Lexington Avenue in like 82nd Street. And the Michael Kay kind of became a guru to David today and along with Alex Rozen are and. A number of other people Richard Long David became very friendly with him these were all folks who are really into. You know audio file and and a higher understanding of how music could be presented so David pursued that and. You know over the years I think people who experience a loft felt they kind of understood that and wanted to. Pursue presenting music in a similar kind of a format I guess if you if you had the pockets deep enough to get to spend that kind of money I mean David David had cartridges his Kuwait's of cartridges alone were he went through several of them but they can be as much as $1000.00 for for a card or you know a single quarter you know he. You know I was sorry I was going to say for our listeners you know who are who are listening to this maybe a little bit but do you always play from vinyl they always played records Yes David was strictly vinyl he did some experimentation one when C.D.'s came out and we did a lot of Ab tests but David always felt it was just a more therapeutic experience when he listened to vinyl over an extended period of time he didn't get fatigued and that was very important to him that. Your ears wouldn't get fatigued or you just wouldn't have this this overall physical it's a reaction to hearing music that would just kind of wear you down he wanted the opposite effect which also I think tied into even the type of selections that that he chose to play because a lot of it a lot of the music was very positive it was from from the basis of love and and you know music that would uplift the spirit you know it's funny to rock David taught me to do something that I really didn't think I would use later on in my life David taught me to when he had a place up near Woodstock in upstate New York and there was like a I was in a lake I guess it was like a broker or something and David would take me to this brook and we would sit and listen to the water. Listen to how the water went through the different rocks and that sort of thing and when I was out in Colorado for my daughter's graduation many years later I went to his broke and just sat down and listened to the water and it's an amazing experience and it was directly attributable to David Believe me I would have come up with it myself for sure but it was a a really galvanizing experience when he applied that idea or that experience that that he took from nature to the music and also from from the books that he's read in one in particular that's a bit in Book Of The Dead which he borrowed this site from the idea of this is the transition of between states of consciousness and so he kind of thought of the party in 3 bardos or 3 states the 1st being calm and so the music which would would really kind of fall that type of a vibe of vibe he wanted to create and so you have the calm then he transition into what he called a circus and that would have a number of peaks and valleys within and then he transition to what he felt was the most important and that was reentry and that was the overall arc of the party. As well as perfect because you can hear the sacrifices started and where I. Am trained so good maybe it's been very restful and fascinating talking to you Douglas we're so grateful that you can talk. Special but they with my Cousens have like a wonderful and always. Treat to talk to you Mark thank you very much for sharing No problem take care of. Stephanie use. A plane before anyone else. Sees you radio. My son. And there's more trouble for both main political. Arenas 1st home game as Tottenham manager sees them pull off a comeback win in the Champions League this is b.b.c. 5. Jeremy Coogan has refused to apologize for Labour's record on tackling anti semitism itself to the Chief Rabbi urged people to consider how their votes in light of what he called the party's utterly inadequate response to the issue in a b.b.c. 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