Of course the morning will be closing live to our reporters at the National Memorial Arboretum in Stafford is handing the almost a service that. Recovery teams in Northern California say you would cover the teams have found 14 more bodies and today bring in the town of Paradise as the all sorts he's continued to battle intense wildfire us the flames have destroyed more buildings than any wildfire own record in the state forcing hundreds of thousands of people to flee their homes that's a total of 25 people in their name to have died Jeremy Chris was ordered to leave his property in the city of cheek rather frightening situation Chico Police Department found on your door and say only 3 words get out now and so all I really grabbed. Our family photo albums and I threw those in my car place have released an image of a suspect after a man was stabbed 3 times on a Birmingham bus the 34 year old victim was on his way home from work on the X. Books on hardly wait an edge to stand outside Morrison's when the attack happened he wasn't seriously injured officers say they want to speak to a 38 year old Jared Duke and in connection with the attack and asking anyone he seen him not to approach him but to call. And he studies found that dozens of shops and disappeared from High Streets across the West Midlands P.W. See compared the number of stalls closing down the number and found there was a net loss of 89 shops in the 1st 6 months of this year Birmingham solar net loss of $6.00 with 30 openings and $36.00 closures and alliances from P.W. C. And says tax reforms would help. Texas going on to read it. Online but I don't think we should get distracted from the fact of how consumers are behaving these days which is showing place knowing that they are increasingly more confident in shopping online buying online and that's really what's driving the result. Published showing that the Street is struggling shops are closing of consumers more will go shop online. To me C.W.A. I'm going to point 16 bullets were aimed to hold them losing ground as they visit also in the Premier League later even though they've suffered 3 consecutive defeats the head coach says his team played well against Brighton and Tottenham today's match will be lonely on B.B.C. With starting full. Albion are back in the playoff positions in the Championship after beating Leeds 41 how Robson can a Phillips and white Gale schooled at The Hawthorns Aston Villa one again 3 nil at a John McCain Tommy Abraham and Khan AHORA hand were on targets for Villa Shay Adams scored a hat trick for Birmingham City as they drew $30.00 at hole at St Andrews also have reached the 2nd round of the F.A. 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Good morning good morning we have a special Sunday breakfast for you today because as you have heard today the 11th of November is of course remember it's Sunday where we reflect on the bravery and sacrifice of those who fought for this country but this year marks the Syn Teenie of Armistice Day when the guns fell silent and the 1st World War was declared over it'll be a day of special events we just heard about some of them in the news and these events will be taking place around the length and breadth of the country and indeed other parts of the world but it's one that we want to look at regionally we want to see what was happening in this area also talking historically about the impact that the 1st World War had on this part of part of the U.K. Now usually as you can imagine doing Sunday breakfast is always an early start but the Smalling it was even earlier because Bernie my producer myself we walked over to some Philips Cathedral in Birmingham and to witness and to hear the start the official start of those commemorations and it was the sound of one piper playing battles or and it was very moving very evocative and we will listen to it and we recorded it for you so you'll be hearing. About that and hearing something about the background and the history of this this wonderful sound that just just stops makes you stop still so as I said. Sunday breakfast is really just about as looking Armistice Day and. It's going to be a very moving probably we have some wonderful reports and things I never knew and I think it's something you're going to sit back and listen to and enjoy So let's start. With can. Find a little face. When . We must tell. It's almost 6 o'clock and I'm biased of Philip's Cathedral in Birmingham where my hair well it's to mark the start of a day of commemoration to mark the end of the 1st World War the signing of all almost ceased. Alone Piper will be playing very soon. To commemorate this important event and he'll be playing battles or which is sleep in peace now the battles over this was a way of showing troops a bottle finished in the pipe a pipe or would play. This lone piper will not be alone because the sound will be shed by a 1000 bucks pipes filling the air around the country in cities towns throughout the land individual pipes will play bottles bottles or heralding the stalls at today's commemoration they'll play not just outside cathedrals and churches but in Market Square as fields hilltops valleys and village greens and that's to start on a sustained. Thank you. Thank Well we've just heard the piper and a very moving sound that was and joining me now is the dean of San Phyllis cathedral and that's Matt Thomson welcome mat good morning where it's nice and bright and early for us to spice in early but as I just said very poignant isn't it because you can just imagine this is what the day would have been like on Armistice Day This is how people would have found out it's such an evocative sound that pipers up and down the country are playing that sound out in Westminster Abbey outside the cathedral and that sound which signals the end of battle would have meant so much. And looking back to that time I mean obviously that the actual troops the soldiers the people who were directly involved in the 1st world war would have found out immediately before people living in the towns and cities it would be a gradual process wouldn't it just take me back to that day and bombing and. Well later today will be hearing the sound of bells ringing and that was a very still a very significant way of people finding out that the longed for news had actually taken place. And on on the day in Birmingham there were services of Thanksgiving bells rung in fact the service here at Birmingham the Federal was so needed was so so much in demand that it took place 3 times on that day it's sort of it's an indication isn't it how important places of worship were in allowing people to find out you know vital news like that it is indeed and people came to celebrate it must've been a huge collective sigh of relief and the people of Birmingham gathered to the sound of those bells now there are going to be events going on all around the U.K. In fact all around the world really in lots of different countries but tell me specifically what's happening here today so later on this morning we'll be gathering to make cars. Act of remembrance half past 9 and then shortly before 11 the city will be gathering right outside the doors as the Civic act of remembrance and the parade takes place around 11 o'clock led by the Lord man and a host of veterans will be joining on that occasion there will be a bell ringing at $1230.00 which again is nationally and then events to see evening in and around the library in the city but then finally at 75 past 7 the churches all over the country the bells will ring out as a final act of celebration and remembrance and let's have the weather key speak 2nd just feel a part of ratings drop falling on my head thank you very much for joining us this morning that Thompson thing is risky to. You mean want to sing. a halt beyond paying taxes. And the be. Mandated by the Obama. Campaign to Thailand is That room a slow right down and it says it's November the 11th its offices day and a very very important day because this is the the day the date that marks 100 years says since the end of the 1st World War And you heard me earlier on talking about the start the the way that if you know the whole thing the commemoration the day of commemoration as be marks morning at dawn to the sound of a 1000 pipers playing and the meant single signal at the end of battle and one of those pipers was in some of its cathedral in Birmingham and just to say that that the Piper was rather God Now who's from the West Midlands pipe band and he absolutely vocative sound just not what must I mean this sudden silence after constant. 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Well today is this is day and it's a time for reflection to you think back to the people who were involved in our wars but particularly people today we think about who are in the 1st world war and how they lived and how they died so it's it's perhaps a good moment to have a thought for the day and join in the studios day case of calls from Morton's funeral directors Good morning Derek Good morning today have courses Armistice Day and this year marks 100 years since the end of the 1st World War standing in the cemetery at passion Dale earlier this year I was moved to tears at the rows of headstones which bore the inscription known only to God some of these were just boys so I marveled like many of you listening I mean all of the bravery of those who commit to serving in the armed forces and are prepared to lay down their lives and yet I am equally appalled that man's inhumanity to man which appear to my eyes is itself in conflict as a funeral director I have all too often seen at close quarters the immense pain that giving your life to Queen and country brings to family and friends affected by the loss nothing can erase from my memory the screams of anguish and sorrow as a mother sees the coffin of her young son who was killed in action draped with the union flag or the tear filled eyes of a child mourning the sudden loss of a parent massacred in a hideous battle films may glorify war but the reality is that it is torturous cruel and ugly. Many members of my own wider family have served in the Army in Raleigh Air Force and thankfully they completed their service at least physically unscathed although I know that the mental scars can be more difficult to heal I have lost count of the number of times I have heard the sound of the last post at funerals and yet whenever it is played it brings me to attention focuses my mind I can't help wondering what sort of country we would not be living in if courageous men and women did not commit to serving in the military speaking earlier this week to an old soldier Those are his words not mine the conversation turned to the recent burglary at the home of a 98 year old man who was severely beaten in the process the news that there have been $119.00 fatal stabbing on the streets of London this year alone and the firework which a thug put into the pocket of a homeless man just for fun the soldier was skeptical about whether national service would make a difference to those who commit such atrocious acts and perhaps prevented them the truth is I don't know either what I do know is that as we sleep comfortably in our beds each night and enjoy the freedoms we all take for granted we can do so because of the men and women of the army the wall air force the Royal Navy in the war Marines to those who have served and continue to serve we have a debt of gratitude which is immense let me finish then with the words penned by Lawrence Binyon combined with some of my own at the going down of the sun. And in the morning we will remember them and a heartfelt prayer for peace everywhere wouldn't go amiss either. And we certainly will remember that my weight Eric said just at the time after time we hear these stories and we it's just unbelievable isn't it what happened harrowing stories on. Our can't imagine for the life of me what some of these young boys because that's what they truly were went through absolutely every US WILL Well we certainly will remember them because all of this week on B.B.C. WM we've been looking at the impact of the 1st World War. On well have had on the West millions and and the legacy that the war left in it certainly did leave a huge legacy Well let's hear about the contribution of soldiers from our region in the conflict our reporter Rob trade has been exploring the stuff that your regiment which recruited soldiers from Birmingham with the Hampton Walsall and large parts of the back country. This morning on my side the stuff you see and it's on the same side is the Whittington. There's no get away from the fact that this is a military museum in front of 5 or 6 tanks or vehicles and to the left of the main entrance you can just make the top of the trench network you can see the sandbags the barbed wire and the corrugated iron there so I'm going to go inside. Of this museum and then see if we can have a look around trying. To sow stuff and whatever to play and also the known island north it's very much more Western Front focused in France and then after the war they went on to stay in Palestine and they were in the east say but it depends on what the battalions that a large portion of them were on the Western Front and yet they. Got there and in. German stick. A lot of actual German helmets German remember video from the world as well all collected by soldiers who like to pick up things about it was about embracing them back. In the paraphernalia that combat duty but it's nice to compare and contrast the children of what the British had. To what the Germans had to say yet interesting and some really unique to this the Bible that. Kept him waiting 10 which obviously save his life when the bullet went through and was stopped by that and you can see the hole in it can't you can guess which I suppose in a way when the cow farts and how small the book actually how lucky he really was David in a chair because that would have been I would say that he shot and I hear you've got an actual trench at the back here is what we did and for side effect and fix the stem which was. So we were in the trench. Trench. Still today. My name's Ted Greene spent 40 years as an officer in the Stanford finishing. Museum curator for a short time and then I was regimental secretary until I retired in 2002 probably the outstanding V.C. For the. Guard in a very religious man after the Battle of the Somme here opted not to bear arms anymore and become a stretcher bearer and it was all going into no man's land bringing bodies back he was a wonderful guy as well they used to say in the north what you fought him but if you get lost you want Bill to come and look for you because he always knows where to find your. Reputation by the end of the world and lo and behold it is received which is great because I was very lucky when I was a young officer in the late sixty's I was 22 and 72 and I called the driver looking . For a day which is always be one of the high points of my Army career. And that was Rob trick reporting and we'll have more reports from Rob later in the program it's now exactly 730 time to go over to the W N NEWSROOM and join the Navy immorally for a news update. Story music to. See WM 95.6. For the West. Good morning it's a label day of commemorations is underway to mark the send scenery at the end of the 1st World War in London renovation What's that parliament will be suspended to announce Big Ben to Charlie Mr Levin a clock marking the stance of 2 minute silence recovery teams in Northern California say they found 40 more bodies and today bring in the town of Paradise as we all saw as he's continued to battle intense wildfires the flames have destroyed more buildings than any wild record in the state forcing hundreds of thousands of people to flee their homes police have released an image of a suspects after a man was stabbed 3 times on a Birmingham bus the 34 year old victim was on his way home from work on X. a Bus on Huntley road in edge to stand outside Morrison's when the attack happened and a new study has found that dozens of shops have disappeared from High Streets across the West Midlands Peter B.C. Compared the number of stores closing down with the number opening and there was a net loss of 89 shops in the 1st 6 months of the. B.B.C. W.A.M. Noisy point 16 What's worse is it's all small in the Premier League this afternoon Meanwhile West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa also all won yesterday with more detail says Andrew Dawkins The Wolves boss knew their recognizes they'll be facing an informal team that should be Lloyd told B.B.C. WM with the former Wolves striker bellies part of outing for forward look leaders looking forward to Robbie. Shoulders with another form of the length see a head coach regarding And I am really annoying personally I know and I think everybody knows the quality of the squad that Arsenal possess so I'm not surprised I think every team is getting better and better each game the Albion head coach Darren Moore says everyone played their part as they got back to winning ways against Leeds how ropes and Carney mount Phillips Harvey balls and Dwight Gayle schooled in the Baggies full warm victory molds team and our faith in the Championship we try to say about them and be creative when we really want to just get about the game and it could have been any team here tonight we just wanted to get the right performance and I think the biggest thing one pleased about tonight is the right performance and it was done in front of a home crowd Aston Villa won 3 nil a high flying Dell'Abate Giambi get in tell me Abraham found the targets before call a whorehouse schooled with a free kick Shay Adams school to help tricks to extend Birmingham City's beats a run outs and juice to full team matches but they had to survive a 2nd half comeback by hole in the 3 old rule the visitors went $32.00 up after being to nail down at half time against Gary Monk's team should I be disappointed with our goals but opportunistic from us but I could have said the opportunities in Aden which are the 2 goals we spoke often on the players about you know whole situation right now they have to come out Respond to be ready for that and we didn't do it Nicky Devlin schooled a late winner his 1st goal for Walsall as they call them treat 3 pts A win the F.A. Cup and the coke and just generally have put the Sadler's in control before the Sky Blues came back to equalise referee Thomas Bramble threats into a bump in the game after Coventry founds invaded the pitch in the bottle was thrown they were also little more as go to town for that side today that kicks off at 1245 and in boxing Tenney value was not so. In a round of his fight against Alexander is sick at the Manchester Arena he was trying to be the undisputed cruiserweight champion and claim his to be B C W B A I.P.F. 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Doctor could educate slushie local radio privacy coming up in the next half hour we'll be looking at a connection finding a connection to the war dead and a sense of being part of this history we took to local matters keeping their memory alive with a very very 21st century method and you know the expression don't you keeping the home fires burning as women of the 1st World War played a vital role will be hearing about the legacy that they left of course we've got then brother Ken Vance who will be doing a news paper review on this very special day that Sunday breakfast with me Luella Bailey. On B.B.C. W N 95.6 radio for the West Midlands. You've done your thing now it's our turn it's an amazing night of entertainment for B.B.C. 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I Player It's now 741 this is Sunday breakfast and I'm deliberately in churchyards in cemeteries across the country there are family inscriptions to those who fell in World War one some are tended while others sadly lie forgotten and are in a sorry state Steve Callista from Birmingham is hoping to keep their memory alive with very very 21st century method Twitter and he's on the line now Good morning Steve the morning for your time very well very well have very EARLY START this morning but it was worth Wotton if you had the piper yell around very very moving if we went to the service in the last month and I was very I bet it was that was the candle it wasn't a wonderful Now Steve you've been a very busy man haven't you I mean tell us about your project OK Well perhaps if I tell you how I got into my not going so strange to use it busy Yes of course yeah OK well I have a keen interest you know worldwide and that is driven by the she says Go suck funds my generation known as the lost generation I saw every history book Battle Plans memoirs as well as talking to friends about it to visit the Commonwealth War Graves cemetery the moment memorial to the last War ready ready Well the one battle will be the next one to you see those images than I do. When you get she scared of the conflict and. Really hard to comprehend the sacrifice in the hollers that those men went through so whether you believe in that conflicts are deeply everybody should go and see. The most humbling experience. And quite emotional as well when. I discovered the Commonwealth War Graves. And he tells you about cemeteries the number of that in the history and also links to Google maps we can take you to the cemeteries. Absolutely invaluable for anybody that's going to France and. It's brilliant or. You can enter the cemetery night or you can click on cemeteries Meenie. And it was that last option that was a revelation to me because when I got home here in a little and it revealed I was at all angles ready from Will one will to and they are all in our communities and the trees and these are the guys that came home to their injuries and boy and everywhere so keen most of all. Right I think and just then many circles so I started. Using the cemeteries and this and I would just walk in the right space. And I would imagine some of them just neglected because the families have gone to all these on Commonwealth War Graves so they know while I was while I was looking in the Commonwealth headstones what I saying and it was pure chance because you saw the centuries I can find myself drifting a length. I came across the gist of what can cause a memorial and it was. Just details. A loss on in the 1st world war. I stated that. It was very neglected. And so it started the more I look frame the more the memorial and. Common feature amongst the inscription Yes there are. Some kind of guys with them and they grouped into ways. The valor ingenuity and then there is what I call the more emotional ones which want me to read well yes that was going to be my next question what would you say was one of the most poignant you see several. Several. So most commonly for the valiant duty's duty no no please don't forgot. The king for a country greater love has no man than the slum to lay down his laws. But he wanted to develop it further. For his for his life of manly for his courageous self-sacrifice and Captain Frederick the priest killed in action 6 weeks of August 96 will. Another one is made ready soldiers faithful to an old fight of the saints you know really 4th of all and when with them the victors crying as gold basically killed in action 1st of all like 20 so that they have a duty ones and yeah there's a more emotional one. Yeah I know I'm well yes because it's somebody's son yesterday devastating devastating and. Just leave it now but man I talk to more about this because it is fascinating and as you said earlier on I think many of us knew there was so many of these around but you want to help you with this but yeah I mean I started about 3 months ago of Old English to the base 80800 inscriptions are fighting in the west believes middlings. But they're there to be discovered because there's a catalogue of the tell of the war or the one that tell of the lost the battle with dates. And their weight with the school it's a 3 months ago I started a Twitter accounts and I thought well I'm going to keep these memorials alive because they wouldn't want to put things on Twitter and social media it never goes away so that was my start of a Twitter kind is called at inscriptions W W one. And it just details pics by picture of the memorials. The Tales of the fallen and the riots and the taxes I haven't ready and I know that people can get involved with this Steve thank you very much for coming on our special program this morning and all because yeah it's it's just just it's just good to know that we're all keeping this going our way and yet and so we should so we should very very moving accounts and I know as a says that you've come across many that just knock you sideways really because of the tragedy of your of doctors leave you with one Yeah there's one there's a tablet in which a cemetery I send them all to a fallen soldier. And it rips into said William Hodges age 21 if an election 10th of August 19th 50 and then this inscription it's followed with the death of his mother Agnes who died 5 months later and he simply says she died of like a lot of us ready on. That point hastily I think as a thank you so much for coming on the show this morning so extreme right now by. Roxy Music It's now $752.00 this is. Sunday breakfast not new in the Bailey and it's time now to look at the newspapers what's making the headlines and no no prizes for guessing what and well on the line now we've got our regular newspaper contributor and that's where they can Vance who is in Barmouth in whales can is this a retreat or a jolly We know it's a retreat and I had my last glass of wine for a week last night watching Strictly and we all have to Jesuits once a year just get away for a week and reflect on what life's about Rob Well what better way to start today on this very very important day and what sort of things have you seen in the headlines Well I went into the shop early this morning as belting as rain here Elaine was very good quite And I've got 4 or 5 babies in front of me but let me look at all the others for free so it's very kind of her but as you say it's it's the whole of the armistice and the commemorations There's a wonderful poll out in the Daily Mail big picture of some Tommies all smiling round Billy cans and so on probably all of them died in the war so sad so you know I mean you just can't you know I know I know I was looking at the Sunday Mercury and Iran and they've done a nice nice cover on the front we remember the pictures of some soldiers slaughtered from an inside and lovely story about memory lane topping LANE You know it's a moving can. It's a place in old age where they actually saw the whole road is coming in Poppy's its population. 57 residents were caught in the carnage of the 1st World War because a soldier shot at doing door on boy soldier and he just goes on doesn't it no it isn't credible you know I mean that there's a 100 times the 1st 5 pages are covered with it and there's a lovely thing in the Observer Marco mode you know the film. Critic a look at that film that's just out of Peter Jackson it's got a film of World War One footage and they made it into color they shall not grow old and it's really moving I must go and see that brings the alive doesn't it doesn't build Are these were real people real people think they were it could be new that me if that's the thing I signed says staggering and every family every I mean we're the generation who remember meeting veterans of this World War and we've all been touched I think the family in the landing didn't they somebody who didn't have a great uncle great great grandfather it's just it's and of course the women the women involved in it or indeed I mean you know. In the background I know my mom in the in the 2nd World War She used to test rifles now she's only 5 foot and quite you know petite but you know everybody was pulled in and the 1st well was incredible the numbers yeah that's the thing Millie you know it's all estimated in millions and that's of yeah what struck me as a game that's newspapers is because I've got a selection and I went and got a selection just to see how it was being covered is interesting that Daily Telegraph Saturday Telegraph went big and have been all week the times not so much the Guardian know and I've got the observer here and it's been that much me the the majoring on Breck's it and there's just a small a bit surprised and that was you know it was originally the Manchester Guardian and of course Manchester was at the center a lot of industry specially in 1st World War It's surprising how different papers tackle these things I mean the Sunday Mirror they have a copy of The Daily Mirror from the November the 12th you know I grew up on the mirror I mean there's a different paper in those days but yeah it's it's different angles and different ways but I think today you know because it's the hundreds and hundreds hundreds of us. 3 they've really pulled out all stops and there's a whole thing in the mail but from Jeremy Paxman just a matter of us because we're so divided saying that you know in those days somehow we indicted not just people in Britain but the Commonwealth I mean our straight here in New Zealand Well we mustn't forget that have we I mean you know the thought that this south continent I mean we have just paper in front of me now 400000 Muslim soldiers during the 1st World War should be remembered today it's nice to see that you can Sussex is another story here. Said that he wants to include marigolds and he sent it off to commemorate India's war dead because you know and we did a story last week about the seeking both men you know and what they do I mean they were they were incredibly courageous. And and like you said yeah there have been articles about the fact that it's it brings everybody together and I think today we could really forget about BRICS we just felt for that yes I mean we got sick of it and they're not quite sure where we're going at the moment with that you know but there is some of that I mean I've just got a few the papers there I think. Looking now yeah as you say the observer. There's a picture isn't there of the German and French leaders center right front Yeah somebody's moment where they went and laid flowers where the US was signed and ironically this was Hitler Yes it took the surrender of the French So it's a sort of healing of all that. Funny enough in the middle of the night I woke up and I just which the radio and there was a little program about the tune of 2 mm of the Unknown Warrior and Westminster Abbey and how they chose it they didn't want anybody to know where exactly come from because one group would say it's probably one of my family and they there were 4 big sites for the the war on the continent and they chose for. Bodies they took 4 bodies up and somebody had to choose one of them so it was kept so you know nobody knows do they think and it was the idea of a clergyman it was his idea and you and I had a very similar program and then it was say was at 1st they thought the unknown soldier would be an officer it was some high ranking officer but they decided to just choose a young ordinary man. And that I think the wonderful thing about that is that all those parents and family they don't know if that unknown soldier might be the son might be this some because there was some harrowing stories and I think it was in the times where they talked about how families just didn't know the war they just did not know all they got was the identity disc so I couldn't mourn properly because they had to have a body or or a focus. And just as anything on track not turning up because he didn't want to go to the bar to be to kill us I mean was that about Yes Well there's a look at the for Sunday Times as a quote. So Winston Churchill you know the sorry Nicholas Some say the grandson I mentioned Churchill they died with their face to the photo and that pathetic inadequate Donald Trump couldn't even defy the weather to pay his respects really is reading and rained and therefore he didn't want to get his head messed up quite well when you think of all those poor men trudging through the mud. And but you know how well. He always has to make the headlines doesn't it oh yeah and the weird way you know you're so sad you look can thank you for joining us this morning and you know you can go about your loss and I know anybody to react for the run but . The rain and a few very well thank you very much thank you Kerry you remember I was in your prayers and all your listeners by and I've developed Thanks can't thank you Mike but it's now exactly 8 o'clock time to join a live in Morley for news update. Thank. Stories music no thank you C W I'm not a 5.60 for the West now and good morning a day of remembrance has begun across the U.K. Marking the 17 away of the armistice that ended the 1st World War in London when of a sham work at Big Ben will be suspended to allow it to renounce its 11 o'clock before a 2 minute silence will be observed nationwide 10000 members of the public will take part in a procession past the Senate after the Dean of St Philip's Cathedral in Burma.