In Fall the Internet an online rating sites are changing the way the pubs and Will should do business that's the view of Julie Moss she's responsible for a dozen pubs managed by Arkell's in Swindon the firm has set up an $843.00 and it's been passed down through 6 generations of the same family Julie says today's successful pub has to be more than just beer and food than that industry say you've got we've got to give people a reason to come out. Whether that be overcrowding guys that we've. Seen now I stay nights all of those things we think that the box and cash machines that don't charge are closing in poorer areas faster than in wealthier areas that's what the consumer group which says it wants the chancellor to make sure that people who need cash can get access to us b.b.c. World news it's 3 minutes past 8 let's see you see location then please. Take this morning no need for the brewery in strange. Blue skies the breweries open you're getting free samples you are surrounded by huge columns of eggs and history what more could you want as a local radio presenter on our big breakfast the States or against you an astonishing little fact a little nugget about this article is brewery in just a 2nd before we hear about 867 year past but 1st the weather Ben Williams Look at Bob blue skies as far as the eye can see 20 degrees today down to 6 and 22 degrees even woman so more are on the roads what are they doing yet still looking slow burn on the I for one as you have passed when going down towards the end for Junction 50 long delays into mobile on the a 346 it's human pass the golf course yes the back the smell of spent hops today the rumble of the barrels the chinking of applause bottles are caused brewery instruct the St Margaret in Swindon quite possibly will she is all this business we are tapping firkins that. There's No Tomorrow Today the scarring this incredible history of the Victorian masterpiece chock full of cash tons coppers and hot facts 861 new dates inscribed on the stone wall just next to me but they are cool story goes back even further than that it's an adventure story of global daring do but heart is hopping hard to tell of community spirit so turn up the volume folks actually it is a morning show say very just stick to about 3 and a half percent volume I'd say I'm on to the 2 percent is now I'm slowly working my way up to a culmination at 9 o'clock we are life stopped 21 and possibly the best yet on our big breakfast birthdates or of Welsh that you as the location then praises the breakfast think still on b.b.c. World. Started 843 the company had been through a lot of changes over the last 176 years and the founder of Arc was John Arkell was born in 89 to George the 3rd was on the throne Henry Addington was prime minister now it's Queen Elizabeth the 2nd with the crown and Boris Johnson in charge and our calls John's great great great grandson Alexander who's standing next to me at the helm when it comes to continually making the big good morning on x. Good morning how are you I'm very well look at us with surveying our 10 more years of your manager form the line of the sun's out and I see you cracked open a few beers as well he's a listener said the wrong impression after all I think I had to separate them out for a 3rd before half past 8 or so why not and I'm sure I asked over there the flag of St George on the great grain wine a brewery warehouse roof that's not flattering and then just to our left that huge chimney that many people know is synonymous with where we are the red bricks and and I was totally it was green in the war to stop the Germans from bombing it the camouflage it how do you know I've never been told the whole there's a new bit of information we go around or you don't tell them he's told him. The buildings about their buildings. That's how hard the kind of story that I like the sound of that yeah and we've got air raid sirens uppers or there's an old air inside on the roof which still works apparently to say myself there Alex Yeah you saved yourself there I tell you why did you want to continue the story I'm not going to do something completely different what I think I mean as a few people have mentioned it's just so exciting it's a wonderful world burrowing It's a fascinating industry and it's in our blood and. My old man my dad who's our boss here he's such an enthusiastic when you grow up visiting pubs obviously not drinking too young of course but visiting pubs and seeing openings and coming around this lovely brewery in the sights the smells the noise is just enthusiastic and and so naturally became something I wanted to do and it's also a great time to making big craft beers had a real revolution in the last 510 years and and so we've sort of ridden the back of that and see some real success in our beers at the same time yeah I was going to ask you about the finances because I mean u.k. Y.B.'s I was clattering in recent years but it does seem now we're into that next week of people maybe getting interested in it people maybe a bit younger than those before certainly more women now appreciating good beer as well the whole beer dynamic is shifting and changing as you say I mean volume has really gone when the old days when people would go to the pub every day after a hard day's work and you know sit by 10 points or something we're surrounded by cakes now but presumably 60 years ago you know they would have been 10 times higher in those cards Igs Well they would have been and we would have had less Browns we develop one or 2 brands now we have 910 different draw friends a whole lot of bottle beers we've got choice and we're growing beer for all different segments of society and people want to have. Style sunlight all these different varieties but probably less of that if you want to go to the pub and try something new every day. A little bit of something that's maybe unusual you can bring sour beers now strong believer is we tried for it we made a beer out of bread last year's a bit of fun and and you know it's exciting it's a good people going to the pub I mean if it's a good pub people go if it's a bit bang average people want to stay at home they'll drink good beer from supermarkets and that's something the you've got into all the labels have changed you've got to be canny haven't you look lovely County and it's a competitive world now is a lot of breweries out there now which is which is a good things I think it's brought up interest in beer. In the pub sort of you're absolutely right I mean the old days of the old spit sauce which I do love just as a work you've got to have a partner to clean fresh welcome you've got a smiling face behind the bar and then people will keep coming back nobody wants to go into a pub and spend a few quid in a pint of beer and not be welcome we'd be responsible this morning well I think at all times apart from when John the drain man picked all 16 stone of you up that was a very responsible thought he was going to do is back in yet but he didn't know it no one's been paying all of it quite some time but what about people who don't like the feeling of having a few beers people who maybe want to just have one or I mean the low alcohol no wow coal market was booming as well it is certainly growing and we had a we had a tasting and also every week we have a tasting panel here so every batch of brew that we every batch of beer that we produce needs to be sampled tested to make sure that it's of the quality you want to do we do that every Friday and we've orders a nonalcoholic beers some competitors the other day to see what the range was like and the same smashing they are out there it's very hard to get that pure beer flavor without the alcohol you'd be surprised how much of the body in your beer comes on the alcohol but it's a huge amount of interest we've got a $33.00 and a half percent beer that we've used that we've done for a long time. And you have certainly right people are looking now for the low alcohol options or the no alcohol options so it's certainly something we're interested in is place to sing tradition and heritage is that hard what you do how do you balance that there with the need to modernize for more environmentally sound approaches. Are you burning your oil to keep the steam engine go in or going to New Zealand and importing hops from either there you know carbon emissions you could think of everything absolutely and I mean it's a constant battle and over every day we're balancing between. Retaining our lovely tradition as you said that beautiful steam set up we've got here you've got a bird all unfortunately about to get that steam to run the old steam brewery and every day I want to retain that sort of tradition as part of our brand and us but what about but also we want to be responsible I mean for us to just yesterday I was signed a contract for a whole note of new plastic wrap for our bottle packs that's 80 percent recycled material and we use all of our waste gets recycled and where we can we're trying our best we saw the whole of the solar panels on the roof of the brewery now as well we've got 200 solar panels we put on the side so where we'll still be having to use a little bit of oil for the steam anywhere else we can cut these missions and make ourselves as environmentally sound as possible I'm into it yeah what I would say love discussing this morning is the fact that you know timing is everything and oversee the story fits in so nicely with the then rather waste coming to Swindon and factory workers is Nick you were one of our guest earlier addresses and he put it back to work is like being here you've got Honda closing down as well though how might that affect you yeah I mean it's going to be it's going to be a big hit I was going to be the whole town we all know that and certainly that's going to reduce the potential disposable income of people. Won't be able to go to the pub as much. As we none of us know how that's going to work and how that's going to shake out for the community around Swindon and the lovely community pubs that are all based around here that everybody knows somebody who works at Honda and we all do a lot of people have got cousins and family members who work there so you know it's scary it's daunting a big company like going under. Will see I mean as as as I've said we're trying to diversify change the way we supply our bear maybe so we'll have a range of diseases a more they. Was directed to women different drinkers lower alcohol these sort of options so forget the gluten as well Alex gluten free beginners Well we may be going to bare last month as well as there's something new it's was a Thai thank you Ok thank you very much it was smelling my nostrils has stopped now is pervaded something else is weighed about 20 minutes and then you'll get when we stop boiling the work which is the 2nd step in the process because billowing out of that chimney at the top of it and it smells fantastic. Wetting your appetite at home it is 812 let's look at the roads and the weather today. Swinney degrees is the predicted high starting off chilly as today this morning but any early mist burning off fog clearing off to leave a nice sunshine dominating day tonight down to 6 and some are a Thursday another chilly start and we can look forward to a fine warm day top temperatures 22 it's all about the long queues benison in some more broadly a 346 in the old borns really slow it's not helpful of course the road works just around the double mini roundabouts and the a 49 not far from here and firkins throw from where we are going south toward 15 am for sure it's not a ground could be a growler there were some lane closure I think it's harder to throw a firkin than a growl or actually I think a growl is lighter sounds like a challenge Well talking of which you got a pub quiz challenge is money we're in a brewery on Ben's big breakfast birthdates or so Ben likes to do a pub quiz in his spare time we are just throwing these out for your delectation no need to phone in the correct answers some answers from you Ok So about 20 minutes ago I asked the question in Scrabble how many points the Letterkenny is worth that's 55 points you got to carry in your bags not bad is it and then sure of all support McCartney once served 10 days in a Japanese prison it is true that he play Hey Jude every day all day during that time as well like he seems to when he's out of the Japanese presents a long song it would've killed some time. So we may go to go Paul So Paul good morning back to brewing in just a 2nd but it's from brings it breaks it should be just canceled brings it all together right the whole thing off and just drink well so much controversy that's exactly what the Liberal Democrats and I want to do with a new leader Joe Swinson drawing her line firmly in the sand during her headline speech of their party conference yesterday so what are people hoping to become Welch's Liberal Democrat M.P.'s make of it here's what some of our local candidates Alan Nicholson Victoria Charleston and Brian Matthew sold our political reporter Dan O'Brien The 1st task is clear we must stock breaks it. Because the reporting profits have decided that we're going to have a policy of. Revoking Article 50 with a majority government it's a clear policy and gives us a way out of Breck's it so you know love it or hate it we're clear I think it's important that the little town that we have a really black and white message unlike labor who have a real but we message I don't exactly know what their position is on that and I'm not the conservative who can lead against out in this very dark place. To stop loss is it will lead to real problems in our country we're offering a positive solution to the question and then wreck that will hurt our economy further reasons of car manufacturing jobs already lost homes out in Swindon Jaguar Land Rover in Birmingham Ford in bridge and next son in Sunderland and more if we leave. This break the terror government wants to pay for their ideology with other people's jobs. Going to members of other parties who you know coming across to us which is you know unprecedented we've done about before not like this I mean it's really good times for the Liberal Democrats but certainly bad times the country is do you think the party of got past the legacy of being in coalition over the high over that brings with it do voters trust g Well we've certainly learned lessons from not but we've got a whole you know we've got a new leader now we've got a new feeling in the country and things has most definitely changed we would not go into addition this time and not with the 2 parties because we don't trust either of them and so where will we have learnt a different position but we're certainly ready governmental south has been a lot of people has come out of my kind of friendship networks or kind of colleagues network has had good on you know good to you know standing up for what you believe in I think that that it's not well received everywhere and I certainly receive comments on doorsteps and comments from people in the street you know why you on 2 Democratic why you're going against the referendum result but the thing is democracy doesn't stand still doesn't let me be clear there is no limit to my ambition for our party and our country and today I am standing here as your candidate for prime minister. She's really brought her a spring back into a liberal Democrat which. I was a review of the Dems new leaders 1st performance of the party conference she had that from North which is Brian Matthews so was breeze at the new concern and Saif West which is Victoria Charleston 3 of our local live bands standing as potentials Rampage's in the next election and of course we'll hear from the other main party conferences in Vegas. Under way in the next couple of weeks I hear that they like a drink at those party conferences I've never been to one as a political hack but apparently the parties after the work's done well producer are pretty wild eyed I wouldn't know but I'd love to give it a go but I think I just couldn't happen pace I'm just sipping very slowly here in New Zealand cause manufacturing and we just know it and we just thought what is it and we are told that the mere a sip of alcohol in the mirror what is it reminds us of and it's like we should be at Bristol Airport to do I feel like I should be I've been Hawaiian shirt or something with my name on the back you know you've been there dressed up as pink ballet dancers on a hen do Marie you're nodding at me yeah you'd be on the g. And. A 7 c. News headlines. I'm Nick Cheers investigations are taking place into a sexual assault in Devizes a Supreme Court hearing is continuing into the prime minister's decision to shut down Parliament and work on a key roads near Swindon railway station has been delayed again Welch's weather cloudy but with plenty of dry bright and sunny spells today top temperatures of 19 Alex Osborn's back with a full forecast in about 10 minutes time. Live from where you live b.b.c. Will. Has them with us if we look convincing out there at the moment say 30 between middle wallop and Saul's breeze looking slow going on the winter slow road stretched by road works long queues into more work coming from the on the a 346 and some water main work in the center is causing delays slowly going into meltdown on the a 350 Western way towards a farmer's roundabout and through Swindon a reminder that ship it away that remains closed following a burst water main just off Lady Lane watch out for delays in the area and the thing else he can update us with the number to call or 8000 to 8 double 3 double sings. On your radio on your phone or online and on your smart speaker play be. He will. Stop 21 of our 30 day tour of welsh on our big breakfast birthdates or celebrating the fact that we are 30 in 2019 and we have been here as the quizmaster given that today we are from Arkell's brewery beer quiz questions it goes like chalk and cheese right give us Question Number Number 5 eyes are on the other and so again just for fun How many is a local knowledge question how many locks are there at Cane Hill near Devizes So we're talking on the canal multiple choice is it a 27 b. 29 or c 31 you kill me with this multiple choice nonsense why are you making it so easy do you think we're ever going to one in 3 chance allow people to have this there's a really really intelligent and the idiots you have to patronize them. Next question the number was not a multiple choice no problem right number 6 Michael Aspel to remember him t.v. Presenter which television show did he present between 187 and 2003 start with the answer better better than bringing you b.b.c. Which is breakfast show live from our quiz brewery in Swindon with the smell of spent hops and and mash tons everywhere it's one of if not the oldest business in the town is why we're here today having been around for 176 years yet it puts our 30th into perspective doesn't it and that's why we're here stop 21 as I say of 30 locations we're stopping across the county and $2900.00 for our birthdates or of course our course is the only brewery here know what worth opening $875.00 devises and there are a handful of microbreweries across the county to Karen gardeners at one of them this morning the 3 doctors in Addington. Now I think you probably said he would meet your match turn is bigger than my last time but my match time is fully operational Michael and is the head right here what's happening happening here well the growing process is not fully underway we've responding the gross which is. Basically extracting the sugar to the mash tun and the liquids being pumped into the copper where we allow the hots later on so we're definitely well underway now and I've learned I was this is wort we're looking at that's the term we brew is called the lovely sugary liquid we call what smells delicious Now another what another person has joined us here at the 3 dogs is Abby knew his wife's chair and national director of camera the real organization and I have to ask you because it's an obvious question really for 2 women talking about is why is the brewing industry so many takes in its history in the very early days women would have time went on it became a man's working drink people were going to manual work they'd have refreshments and they all pub environment. When the people came when men were working and women were more at home now my daughter's generation of women superstring because a lot she'll quite happily order a pint which I don't tend to do what sort of a portion of women know better and because well speaking for camera 20 percent of all membership of the ring of female so one in 5 real members are women they are but we do know that there are quite a lot more women doing female drinkers so. The younger generation as you say they're growing up and becoming a more acceptable female string country points even when I was young it was more acceptable to drink up I think I just haven't got the hang of holding a pike class to be honest I grew up with you managed to pass I it's interesting isn't it because it's part of the problem I guess is the image the marketing image and I know the camera caught Spears that have a sort of sexist marketing Yes we found out today you gotta say that a huge amount of women are massively put off by male orientated advertising so it's 48 percent of young people are put off by that 40 percent of young women are put off by that when you have ladies turn a very voluptuous way on the palm it doesn't appeal to them you know we want we want to. Drink beer for the same reason the memoir strictly We want good quality good tasting Absolutely that's what it's about well let's talk let's talk about good quality beer so we've been tasting you're going to taste it as far more of an expert maybe the 3 daggers blondes Pale Ale have a taste of me and tell me what you think. Or will it smells delicious and the hops onto astringent which suits my palate. On the condition of that is absolutely marvelous a very bright 1st drink. You know what I don't normally drink parallels I'm normally more of a dark drinker but that's really a very traditional British flavor Well there is a voice of authority there have been even from Cameron giving these sums are double thumbs up to the diet as long parallel old winning of course they've won a couple of wars here this is the I think the thousands of Michael a 1015 bruises that almost today were doing 1014 so a lot of experience here over the last 6 years Ben allied with the farm shop and the. Published us amazing gastro food it's almost a village here but as you can hear in the background brew is starting his early is you and I which is to appreciate and I have to say a parallel is as good as a cup. Yeah I mean wonder of your words facts here we're just surmising there are calls in north which if words lead to the name words to get your words 'd on their devices or it's like a stock is a stock that got some brewing reference them words and if you living in Word soon can you let me know please is it what happened to the kind of access from the matching process we don't know we just don't know just before the sport was surrounded by old artifacts old pictures of brewing here throughout the decades people up at the mash tons and. The yeast boilers and everything else and also used to be the Shreddies in the morning but there's a ball to different kinds he vaulted wheats in this you got Christoph Waltz is not one of your pay almost as well that go into different beers and this is my cup of tea let the chocolate malt put a bit of milk on that and I'd probably eat it with a spoon to be quite honest Maria sports news that you carry on with your chocolate milk for a couple of minutes let's start with football and swim the last 3 male at home to cultures to last night now like 4th in the league to Town boss Richie Wellens told b.b.c. We'll say that the game turned on a 1st half injury about it all was often just the whole dynamic of our team changed that's my fault and I want to blame myself for that so I'll take that one which you know because probably made a wrong substitution so I'll learn from the 1st but of course it's not some some extent will do for the public what why do you feel ultimately Tumbarumba most of the wrongs from all over the we're going to. Take a mistake on it on the chin because it got it going wrong what's Matthew thank you Scott I'm going to. The physio went on he said Ok to continue but when the ball went straight to him and he fell again so now there's a big player because experience when we're talking we haven't been counted also he's a member of the place he doesn't play we get counted because we need our guys Asian them in my eyes from behind. You can hear more from the manager and midfielder Danny Rose in our Matchday summary the talk of the town available online at b.b.c. Dot co dot u.k. Slash b.b.c. Or via our Twitter page elsewhere in football in the southern previous souls' breach 3 all at Weston super Mare last night in chipping in town of announce the departure of Yankee closely following discussions with the chairman and club management the 32 year old signed in the summer of 2018 from talk even has been plagued by injuries and in last night's Champions League title holders Liverpool lost 2 nil at Napoli Well Chelsea lost one nil at Valencia Spurs a Man City are both away tonight they play in p.r. Course and shut out the next respectively away from football than the current organizers of this one and half marathon are confident the new team taking the event on will run it well it had been 5th Sunday's race would be the last but it's been revealed that the new team from the race organizers and nationwide are prepared to take it on Graham Hardy who stepping down says there's a lot of work involved reality we quite like our lives are going to say it's been really good and it's been a lot of fun organizing a massive experience going on large house and I think of all the people who are interested. But also that are want are going to grow in bigger and better. Female jockeys will be encouraged to take part in a new near 22000000 pounds horse race meeting in Saudi Arabia the Saudi Cup will be the world's richest race and the shuttles to take place next February and in rugby Wales head coach Warren Gatland says the team was shocked by the news of Rob Howley alleged breach of world rugby is betting an anti corruption regulations how he's been sent home from the Rugby World Cup and is assisting with an investigation then get away from the beer. It's hard isn't it look at Iraq a look at it all it's amazing to get there on time not too bad I've been very very myriad of slips and sips going down my throat and just thinking drive with Graeme Rodgers Maree 24 o'clock he's got the Caribbean legend Ainslie Harriette for his footie Wednesday nice Ainslie wouldn't be afraid of sloshing a bit of good ale into his into his cooking yeah you know it could be from beer yeah or something like brilliant afternoons or James Thomas is on the allotment in Pinehurst in Swindon finding out where the community is doing a lot more than just growing bed and once we're finished at 9 o'clock here at our course brewery in Swindon you've got mornings with Marie Of course she's chatting to Longleat legend Ben Fogle for war should people set about you about his house and discussing whether it's ever Ok to send a poorly child to school my I was off my eldest yesterday he must have been pretty bad at death's door because I got home and he was nowhere near the Play Station I know wow probably don't even think of him properly under the duvet that's mornings with Marie from 9 o'clock get involved with that right let's update the pub quiz before we get to the travel ban a short time ago you asked these 2 questions right yes so Question 5 overall then how many locks are there Cane Hill near Devizes no multiple choice options that's fine Question 6 was Michael Aspel presented which television show between 187 and 2003 so the answer for the logs how many there are 2029 long s. And Michael Aspel presented this is your life. You'll be on it one day and a comes back right now the roads doing a well oiled this morning let's find out. From where you live b.b.c. Will show. Delays in Cecil's free London Road Castle Road and also through Wilson on the I 36 womans to right it's also looking really slow in some more for the small in queuing all the way from all points in and 3 down the a 346 past the golf course the main road works once again calls and delays through the center it's picked up now heading into devices Kane Hill and Dunkirk Hill slow going to the town center and delays of around 5 to 10 minutes between commentary Hill that's because of the ongoing work they continue and the thing else you can update us with the number to call away 1000 to 8 double 3 double things. The location this demonstrates is the breakfast the state. Is b.b.c. Will show. Is just gone half past 8 I'm Nick jurors with the news headlines police are investigating reports of a sexual assaults in Devizes an area near the canal on North Gate Street was cordoned off last night while officers carried out inquiries Welch's main ambulance is still not back up and running bosses had hoped it would be flying again by the end of last month after technical problems earlier this year it is close to getting a new certificate to fly again a backup helicopter has been used while the main one's been out of action the Supreme Court continues to hear the suspension of Parliament case this morning Boris Johnson's accused of trying to silence M.P.'s ever Brecht's it lawyers for the government say the prime minister was entitled to suspend proceedings and his decision is not unlawful tributes are being paid to a motorcyclist from Trowbridge who died in a crash 47 year old in Hateley was on a bike which collided with a car in the Abbott sprit area of Dorsets on Sunday September 1st his family say he was loved by all who knew him and that. Will be hugely missed I'm a consumer group which says action needs to be taken to make sure people have access to free to use cash points figures show that more than 8 and a half hours and machines of either closed or started charging for withdrawals since last year that's the b.b.c. World news here with the weather Many thanks Nic all of the quiet and settled spell of weather continues for us once again today across welcher still a fairly cool start though 1st thing this morning if you are just about step out the door temperatures for many of us currently hovering around the 7 to 8 Celsius mark but those temperatures should fairly quickly recover once the sun gets to where collecting it at the dry fine and bright day with really unbroken sunshine so blue skies overhead just a light northeasterly breeze and it should feel fairly pleasantly warm I think in the sunshine with those light twins top temperatures of 20 degrees Celsius very similar to what we saw yesterday overnight tonight we stay dry with long clear spells and light winds maybe want to chew patches of mist and fog and turning quite chilly again with lows of around 4 or 5 Celsius for tomorrow then once any early mist and fog clears it's very similar story to today dry and sunny in the main with blue skies overhead once again top temperatures a bit warmer even then today 21 Celsius will be the high very similar to on Friday a bit more of a breeze blowing by then and warmest still into Saturday dry at the moment with more in the way of censuring we could see highs by then a 23 degree Celsius that you see location then phrases big breakfast thanks to Poland b.b.c. World. Yes Stop number 21 of the Big Breakfast birthdates or where we're celebrating 30 years of b.b.c. Visiting 30 locations across the county in 2019 if you missed the previous 20 if you being this possibly the best of the lot can be we see we were organizing news up in a brewery this brewery in Kings down in the north as well. Is I'd say fairly unique in service it has got such as the Willy Wonka's the Harry Potters about it the floors are an even angles the doors are slightly off the hinge you come in and there is calligraphy written on the doors they used room number one over their room a just to the right of it you go up and there are cracked window panes internally up stairs you've got a scientific you've got the cutting edge you've got the kind of lab with a person a white coat there with different vials and test tubes full of different colored beers and the yeast receiver number one about 5 times my size and height with some lovely smells coming from it so it's up balance between New Wave and old school which was celebrating today because this place started in 1843 when Queen Victoria was one and on the throne Bruno's s.s. Great Britain launching from Bristol the company's been through a lot of changes over the last 176 years they came to be by the way Swindon's oldest business what about the rest of the car scale industry we're looking far and wide across what should this morning joining us Jonathan olds from Car Smart which was set up by 4 breweries if you didn't know in the late ninety's to drive up those industry standards Jonathan good morning hi good morning I don't know where your base but if you've got your own beer poor like I've got no I don't have my own beer poor but I'm certainly looking for this one me that really is the way to roll absolutely where you found your place in life thank you very much not too frothy please at the top must set make sure the angles writes Jonathan impressed yeah I am he's done this quite a few times by the libs are here to just put it on my own monogram beer mat with a few cashews that would be marvelous Thanks ever so much so what is a day in your art world involved in what you do so. For the past month trust and since you were an organization that helps to improve the standards of be. Quality within the trait. In my day inherently looks like a man in business of a big pub groups and independent pubs and talking to them about consumer needs and how they can be better at 70 industry and providing great quality beer there's always romance about pubs and how people were shocked when some closed down but to be honest if a pub is any good it will stay open if it gets the details right absolutely look we you know we're still seeing 14 pubs closed per week on average and we've seen that for a number of years now but what we are getting as a result of that is the cream rising to the top so you know rest assured particularly if you're looking for outlets that have the cast Mark accreditation such as all the Arkell's pubs but when you go out there and you visit these pubs you're going to get a fantastic experience and really great quality beer What are the trends then because as much made as it now it's hardly sort of bricks it factions in households but the craft vs they can ask you know things everything is complicated these days isn't it yet is that there's there's a vast amount of beers out there these days the majority of which are excellent in fact that you know they're all good beers and what it does is it caters to many different tastes so you know there's kind of well over 10000 cask beers out there now and you struggle to find a good one so yeah I'll get out there get to the pubs and go and try all these different beers the flavors are amazing people might say well I would try if I could afford it the price goes up and up and up you know these barriers are broken up now remember a pound a pint when I was 18 now you're not shocked if you're paying just neighbor for quite a pint you know so a lot of money for h $2.00 o. With a few bits of natural goodness in it well it depends which way you look at it when it's when when the beers got hundreds of years of heritage in it and it's a real nation an art you know crafted by brews over the years and actually can spare remains going to one of the lowest. Prices per pint So I think you get outstanding value to get all of that that. Heritage and that that kind of hard work sweat and tears go into into a pint if you get a bad one don't be afraid to say it's bad because I think we're getting better as Brits there aren't we absolutely we're inherently British and we don't like to complain we tend to defer to social media but you're absolutely let If you don't think it's a good point that the public can know behind the bar because they want to know and they want to make sure that they're serving you good beer to tell them that get it sorted even that's not a simple as it once was because a cloudy part was a coyote part Jonathan but now some of them are broom to be clouding absolutely some limit said the man at the bottom what's going on so sediment you naturally gain cast there anyway there is filtration process in there to minimise that it's a it's a living and breathing product has a life in it as you drink it and but you do get hazy beers and if you're unsure just ask the people be on the bar don't know about the benefits and sour beers as well now to make matters even more complex not my cup of tea but I'm sure they will to some people as a real sour beer no no no no not for me at all but yeah I'm sure there are people to people but get out there enjoy the good speech you have thank you thank you Joy It's all around because that's Jonathan Alter from the cast Mark group Marie's going to tell us very shortly what's on her program today I've already done a part of her job for saying that Ben Fogle no less will be on the program and they're talking about what to do if you've got a sickly child how long really should they be kept off school depending on what kind of sickness they've got 2 reasons to listen in summary in a 2nd she can put her feet up now the weather today I'm going to come to the big doors the ark was brewery and have a look for you see if it's changed I think it has no red brick buildings and chimneys stretching into the bluest of skies and the flag of St George there with its red and white. A mild flutter so we're getting today you can just see how it's going to shape up nicely it was cold 1st thing this morning though as we arrived in the smoke was coming out the chimneys down to 6 again overnight tonight and then slightly warmer and sunnier through the day tomorrow at Squinty 2 degrees on the roads long queues into more broadly a 346 boards towards the town center adding around 15 minutes to your journeys anything else what's the number been Williams's away 1000 to 8 double 3 double 6 it's like you said that a few times before just to see the gossip down here I thought you treat me so I won't be you don't you. Know I don't mind going a while of a rail please land north company that can't believe it right Marie learning good morning 9 o'clock was coming up morning very much great programs want to have loved it right this morning we're going to talk about weekend working because it's just part of life now that you should be expected to work your weekends we all want all our goods delivered whenever we decide we want to be able to go to places on a Sunday but there are some workers in the country who are protesting because their new contracts make weekend working mandatory These are workers in faster who have been told let you sign this new contract or you're fired just in time for Christmas that's nice isn't it so we'll discuss this this morning Should we can working be something which he should expect to do now is that part of life or should weekends be kept sacred your thoughts your stories this morning if you are someone who has to work or your weekends I'd love to hear from you your thoughts will discuss after 9 this morning. You were you son of a bit like. Morning very much. Did you not hear I can't see you I feel like the beer for you must have gone to my head actually then nothing makes sense Hope's. Are they saying to you you can be my wife sage paint yourself green and put a beige cloak on your back my memory. From 9 o'clock is as funny as I think it is well or is it the 3 very small sips of Marco's our lives consume this morning making it seem funnier than it is pint you have drunk. I'm good morning Ben and the break his team on the big break his birth date so on stopped 21 and 30 around the can see why we chose in the 30 we have what's sometimes you've invited us recommended places and stops and sometimes we think like today it's good to get you to places one that you might never have been to and so you might not know much about the Arkell's brewery we're using as our place to really get under the skin of the brewing industry and also celebrate that when it comes to that this is a business in Swindon that's managed in this day to stay around for 176 years that's quite an achievement right this going around the whole county no show if you want songs for you. In swimming today the swim recital series of organized a lunchtime performance with big bones there for young trombonists from varied musical backgrounds there on stage from 5 past one until 2 o'clock to see plashed in this weekend is a harvest festival there is St Mary's Church featuring a Beatrix Potter inspired garden that sounds lovely a raffle children's competitions drawings by local kids auctions after the service at St Mary's Church on Sunday proceeds going to elaborate Christine care and support and the motion food banks are all good causes there to celebrate former director of the National Portrait Gallery Sandy Nairne will be giving a lecture about the theme of commemoration and celebration in arts that's in the cathedral as 7 and all 2 choices on the telly tonight Japan with Sue Perkins b.b.c. $19.00 o'clock Sue embarking upon a trip around the country space get you in the mood for the World Cup the Rugby World Cup is starting this weekend I'm sure that some point will feature a scene where Sue Clark. To a bullet train you can't do a documentary about Japan without mention the bullet train and Channel 58 o'clock what about hoarders buried alive in my bedroom observation documentary looking at people whose homes are extremely cluttered a little bit I suppose like the hot polling room here at the archives brewery with box after box of hops from all over the world it's hard to navigate a path through but it's all the more charm for Channel 58 o'clock hoarders buried alive in my bedroom. To get your event to mentions just email what son were at b.b.c. U.k. . Right it's a $45.00 news headlines. I'm Nick jurors investigations are taking place into a sexual assault in Devizes a Supreme Court hearing is continuing into the prime minister's decision to shut down Parliament and work on a key road outside Swindon rel way station has been delayed again sports and football Swindon have dropped to 4th in League 2 That's after a 3 mill defeat at home to Colchester United last night and Welsh as weather will cloudy but with plenty of dry bright and sunny spells today top temperatures of 19 . Lives from where you live b.b.c. Will show we're going to travel done on your money and then you can have some more pub quiz questions Ok right in that case he's looking slow going on Mazie the a 346 heading towards more road work schools in some days adding around 1015 minutes to journey times a 350 Melksham at the farmers' roundabout long queues on a western way towards the major roadworks and reminded that through the center of West again the a 350 that closure remains in place for the resurfacing work slow pass stones now on the ne 3 o 3 this time going westbound towards the long brown that's heading away from Amesbury watch out for a delay there anything else then that you can update us on the number to call 8000 to 8 double 3 to 6. On you. Radio on your cell phone online and on your smart speaker play b.b.c. We'll chat. Ryan a spare time Ben Williams likes to be the pub quiz master that you've seen in your local pubs and we were in a brewery of course so we thought we'd let you just sort of test us with a few this morning and you'd be doing a good job quizmaster thank you very much this is just your enjoyment at home don't feel like going to win anything or or phone into the radio station just have a go at answering these what were the ones you said earlier Ben and the answer is we we established 29 Canaille lot we did yes and also Michael Aspel Yeah it was the presenter of the long running t.v. Show This Is Your Life right so the next 2 questions are please for my good listeners to fresh questions and let me just find my script Ok and so I'll go with this question has been number 7 who's celebrated diary had a last entry on the 1st of all because 944 Ok and and another question What is he leaving the Roman numeral for 500. So whose celebrated diary had a last entry on the 1st of August 944 and what is the Roman numeral for 500 play along at home and have some fun with that band live from the ark was brewery in Swindon but just because we're out again on our big breakfast birthrates or don't think we leave stopped abruptly at home in a studio No no no we packed that as well and if you missed it between 6 and 7 our early morning place name running game it was another cracker it was beer themed it was have a pints in will ship so you had to go away as you woke up between 6 and 7 and think you were running an answer for have a pint in Wiltshire and we really really well we thought well we thought we thought some more if you went in and asked for a pint of lager with a small splash of lemonade on the top would that be a larger top or lark a dash for Mr Larkin top and for me it was a lark a dash so we went with a log a dash Yes it is my show exactly in pub parlance my name above the door so I because we're going to ask James Arthur in a minute the head honcho if Yeah whether it's a lover topper you. As always are larger in line manager be a dash man and the answer was have a lot a pint a lark a dash in violence ash it could have so easily be a log atop in bird drop but we were with you because you names on the door thank you and the big news breaking is that nobody got it right on stopping broccoli this morning but that's Ok that's the beauty of it because what it does is furnish us with some mighty fine incorrect answers as well just some of them for you here from earlier on gone it was who said what about supper beer bottom in no it was wrong Dawn Andrew watch it how about knocked back a tank of air in the pews evil that was wrong as well bully bear said drunk as a lord in Ford But you have been from scientists I believe you know back in the days and salmon Lois eagerly she came up with have a drink at Sidley wink they were all wrong. Because we've already told you the right answer coming up then we will speak to James Arkell and also cross to Karen Gardner live from a far smaller brewery south of where we are in Swindon and she's in Eddington finding out about an incredible story of what they're trying to do to further which is brewing heritage there in edits and that's all coming up. But you get b.b.c. Books or something I never forget the chance to do until weeks or so show on b.b.c. What's up we're looking for new voices to join us across the b.b.c. In just the West you don't need loads of experience you just need a great personality and a story to tell on some stage 20 x. Time but the works in Swindon we are holding auditions so this is your chance to get your foot in the door of the b.b.c. Your voice could be our new voice for more details click b.b.c. Don't go to u.k. So Ash new voices b.b.c. Will set you up as the location then praises the breakfast they kill on the b.b.c. World. Yeah latest stop of the Ark was brewery in Swindon one of if not the oldest business in the turn having been around for some 176 years I suppose it puts our 30th birthday celebrations into perspective doesn't it doesn't dilute the no no we are still celebrating like there's no tomorrow it's why we're here today stop 21 on the tour of course our course isn't the only brewery Hey what worse opened in 1985 in the vices Oh yes the 1st time I put the road gas into what words will I feel I feel filthy Sorry that won't happen again what worth can't believe I did that 2 hours and 51 minutes into the program is the 1st time it's happened yet $875.00 they came into being and there are of course a handful of microbreweries across the county to Karen Gardner One of them this morning is the 3 daggers Edington just between Westbury and market Lavington how many points you up to now current. I tell her about me I think that beers go to your head you said the road ass has a pint owing me now I've come up from the microbrewery itself up into the farm shop which has this amazing glass we're going to see LNG wall you can see what's going on can see Michael working hard down there emptying the mash out of the master and I'm with Ricky Carr who's the system through. Your local ad Westbridge what you like about working here is very small scale brewing so it gives us the opportunity to create some new fantastic recipes and also keep the cool beers that Martin. Did 6 years ago so it's important for us to implement new try them in the. Buzz going up in the farm shop. And yes just a brilliant place to work it all links together now Claire Edwards is busy at the coffee machine I'm going since right to be showing a member star so I think you'll forgive me Claire you know being the Mr At the moment but you're also delicatessen expert and the stock controller and breakfast maker that's the critical thing here is because the brewery supports the shop in the shop it supports the brewery and the both are involved with the pub absolutely people come for a bit of everything's they can come and have some nice coffee and some cake or something from all of the deli and they can either pick up some beer here or they can have a point where they hear as well do you sell a decent amount of beer straight to the public is you do this on anybody else or we can fill up work or growlers which are big glass bottles that you can buy here as well and then you can come in and fill up from our draft kind of. Things as well which is and I've seen the ground isn't it really interesting if you said Oh I'm only having a bottle that's some bottle of beer it is I think I was about 3 or 4.0. 7 It's I know it's a very family company here and you all support each other but the brewery is through a real zest a real zing to the business there has Yeah it's just nice especially when people can come in when they are just visiting the farm shop and they can have a look into the brewery and see what's going on and I think it makes a big difference where they can see where the beers made in the neck and have a taste of it as well well that's what I've been doing I've had to parallel small events as you know I'm Julie that immensely I still stop now because I do have sure I'm going to have a cup of tea and a bacon sarnie. But I do recommend if you're driving between the Livingston's and West see the 3 deckers pop in and functional have a look if you've never watched ruin before they do brute who is here and it's for absolutely fascinating to know the skill the expertise the dedication and the imagination of Wilcher Brewis. Yeah there is something lovely about you know the established breweries like we are out today our course in Swindon but then these small seedlings these things growing maybe into a big oak in the future Jane incautious been in touch actually the cats will smith microbrewery in Bradford and even says Jane they've got their monthly open day from 122 or 5 this Saturday they're on the tree more industrial estate they'll have live music tours tasting hot pies and the Tap Room will be open for you to tap tap tap away whether you're a fur kid or a Grainger kind of guy or gal Ben with stop 21 of 30 as we get beams he watches back for Sherrod Brown they can see celebrating turning 30 in 2900 since we opened in 89 is what's the sound and I suppose you have to just doth you can't really don't need to any organization it's been around for 176 years James are called are some history Good morning good morning happy birthday yeah well yeah no don't put the sound. That. We've come on let your good beers evolve we've evolved through still churning out I love the clatter and the clanging going on everywhere it's alive isn't it yeah and actually when you're in a brewery it's the noises that tell you where we are in the process of making beer whether it's a belt or a boil or a bang you know it's all there it's great so get me right with the family tree I should have my marker pen and you can write on the wall which generation a huge anymore I don't know maybe 5 or 6. To go along merrily I'm still here still reading it's all that Eastern it's marvelous blood and John back in the early eighties hundreds were pining shootin off to Canada I having a village family do that yourself No well I got quite a lot grandchildren of the village yet. Came back and timing was everything because Bruno was doing what he was doing with the railways and you know your great great well it's now that's right they sold the farm. And moved over the border and will find move and the. There farming here was all bought up compulsory purchase order 23 pounds an acre they built schools on there but he had by then got his wells and he got his brewery here and that's what it was and he bought the steam engines from Ronald works around the corner love the hat and I don't know if you knew but Alex didn't know I was teaching your relatives facts about the chimney at the back the big red brick iconic chimney as it does stretching into the blue skies this morning that was green in the walk as they camouflaged it did they you didn't know I didn't know you were there. I can't believe you're ever taking an age and I hope it's true now because we had a fact that ducks quite themselves to death on yesterday's program and it wasn't true your camouflage chimney television you know ready to do anything to save this country of your new sharp suit and that's a story really because you got in the car park past the cakes and there are people in their overalls near shorts and the drains and everything else but there's lots of people with big wins and tiny knots doing deals and that's what you doing these days. The further your flow to the top the more you have to deal with the finances and the banks and people are. There But I mean I'd rather deal with the pubs licensees That's the back bedrock of our business it's fantastic and how is it how is the finance company well it's very capital intensive now because the old days we made lots of money from fruit and drinking beer and that was we could all live on that nowadays it's bedrooms it's food kitchens it's very very expensive but we're putting the money in behind the licensees and actually behind Alexander the brewery he's got more wizardry in here and equipment than I've seen and this is a different country on every hot box here isn't it some from New Zealand some from Austria some from the States you know you going far and wide a ways before that the perception was our cause more than a lot of other breweries were traditional We are traditional because English hops go in the copper foggles and Golding's which they make in Kenton Herefordshire Well exactly even at this time in the morning. And they go in a copper so it's the flavors in the sense. They come from around the world and that's why Alexander travels to America or New Zealand he gets all the big trip here he was telling me earlier you know he doesn't know what Honduran its closure will do and we were saying about the good news and the good timing of the railways and an arc which has been there I suppose and fitting into whatever else is happening yes I mean you know Honda taking up a big big slice of land there and I think it'll really be positive in the future and of course the employment of it is enormous for those there but proportionally to 250000 people in Swindon will that will make it work and Swindon Borough Council actually been very positive about what they do with the railways the road so I'm pretty positive about it short term pain long term gain and for our course you know if my successor successor successor comes back in another 30 years and you're a 100. $280.00 whatever way it is there is a pill by then by. And I may not be here what will this place be like if you're not here well be doing basically it'll still be here definitely and it'll still be those being those bangs in there they're all there or what's going on in the brewery the pubs are going to evolve all the time all the time and so where we've been churning the smaller ones you heard from cost market being closing because they're not profitable for the licensee not for us for them because they've got to make money they do all our work out there and so we're moving those around buying bigger pubs vesting in those big pubs making them more income for the licensee and actually much nicer the customer is great James Arkell good to speak to someone. By by Ben Williams final word you'll get a final word with a rose in the travel information I simply don't I. Live from where you live b.b.c. Will. Be I should say 3 so what he was hosted I said Arkell's and the 3 dogs Edington as well thanks for your calls it's actually tweets on this our 21st stop of would say where our 22nd destination of 30 is going to be in the next few days. But the roads right now are all yes and really long queues been as you head into more on the a 346 from the old ones because of those roadworks from right in Troy bridge in and out of town looking very slow going and into devices the Bath Road and also Dunkirk Hill tools the town center again lots of congestion there anything else the number to call it fills into a double 3 double sinks. Seen here is the location and. Then traces the breakfast that states it. Is b.b.c. Will. It's 9 o'clock am Nick Geos police are investigating after reports a woman was sexually assaulted in Devizes happened last night b.b.c. World says Rachel Lawson has more officers were called to an area near the canal close to the carriage on Northgate street last night police cordoned off the area and Facebook users have reported seeing the force helicopter either and anyone who knows more about what happened is not to contact police immediately quilter's main ambulance is still not back up and running bosses had hoped it would be flying again by the end of last month after technical problems earlier this year it's getting close to getting a new certificate to fly again a backup helicopters being used for the main one spin out of action. The Supreme Court continues to hear the suspension of Parliament case this morning Boris Johnson is accused of trying to silence M.P.'s over Bracks it's lawyers for the government say the prime minister was entitled to suspend proceedings and his decision is not unlawful Dr Steven Tyler is an expert in public law and was watching yesterday's proceedings a lot of probing questions a lot of very complicated issues around the Constitution that most people I'm sure will find quite boring but really interesting questions very interesting questions and you can believe tell that the judges are taking their time they're really carefully considering what's going on and it's very difficult to read what they're thinking tributes are being paid. A motorcyclist from Tribe bridge who died in a crash 47 year old in Hateley was on a bike which collided with a spree area of Dorset on Sunday September the 1st his family say he was loved by all who knew him and that he'll be hugely missed now around $600.00 cash machines are closing every month in the u.k. The consumer group which says that research shows that deprived areas are most likely to be affected here's our personal finance correspondent some of the Great Yarmouth Harf of cash machines charge a fee of up to.