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News on 5 of his Midge Mansfield thank you doesn't Good morning President Trump controversial nominee for America's highest court looks certain to be appointed being backed by previously undecided U.S. Senators Kevin has been facing claims of sexual assault which he denies the Supreme Court has the final say on issues such as abortion and gun control his all White House reporter Tara McCovey several key senators whose views weren't known and have now come out and said that they would support Judge Kavanaugh This includes a senator named Susan Collins she's a Republican from Maine and also Joe Manchin he's a Democrat from West Virginia they both said that they feel real compassion for people who have suffered sexual assault but still they believe that Judge Cavanagh will be an excellent Supreme Court justice and someone said there's been significant progress in the Bronx in negotiations with movement on several key issues the European Commission has given a positive assessment Bassett is in Brussels prompting a rise in the value of the pound and white police officer who killed a black teenager 4 years ago in Chicago has been found guilty of 2nd degree murder Jason Van Dyke shortly Kwan McDonald 16 times he says he feared for his life because the 17 year old had a knife reported not a top fix been following the case what was so key here throughout this 3 week trial was the video itself a video that was released only after a court order and what that showed was that look Kwan McDonald was walking away from officers when the shooting happened and you can see in that video that he is lying motionless on this street as the officer continues to fire who woman's 180000 pounds in damages from a man who'd been cleared of raping her after a night out in Fife 5 years ago the woman who called the name to suit 23 year old Steven Coxon in previously denied assaulting her and a jury found the case not proven. One of the world's most senior police officers has disappeared in mysterious circumstances head of Interpol men men Hong way hasn't been heard from for several days reports in Hong Kong suggest he's been taken away from questioning in China Steve saying is an expert on Chinese politics if the Chinese government wants you or Communist Party wants to get messages that. However senior You may be where that you are whoever you are the party will get you nobody is appropriate or a national course you are President Xi Jinping officials in Indonesia believe hundreds of people may still be buried under rubble following last week's earthquake and tsunami more than 1500 people a KNOWN to have died but rescue workers haven't yet reached some remote areas Britain sending aircraft carrying aid supplies is the U.K. Ambassador to Indonesia the 2 planeloads will basically provide shelter assistance for 10000 people the caseload as things stand is 80000 people without homes so actually I think the U.K. Is making a really good dent in that and the really strong contribution and people across England and Wales say their homes and buildings are being swarmed by ladybirds experts say the hot summers boosted numbers off the holic when species let's have a sport now with Nick Paton The former Manchester United captain Gary Neville has launched a fierce attack on the club's board amid unconfirmed reports that manager Jos a merino will be sacked after today's game against Newcastle now Paul told Sky Sports that he's furious at the thought that for the 3rd time news of a managerial dismissal has found its way into the media before it had been officially confirmed United have not responded to questions about the report nor have they responded to a request for confirmation about information given to the B.B.C. That Marino and his agent George Mendez met United's executive vice chairman Ed Woodward in London yesterday and that this was the reason why the club's weekly press conference was held at 8 am elsewhere glimmer is 99th goal for Brighton was enough to give them a warm meal when at home to West Ham we get more as head coach Sean way will have an Old Trafford farewell after his side completed the line up for the Super League Grand Final their 14 will win at home to Castleford season face Warrington next Saturday acts as a Chase made it 6 wins from their opening 6 premiership games as they went $3924.00 a bath and to will happen is one shot off the lead at the Scottish League champions . He's an 8 under par after a 2nd round $66.00 a context this is B.B.C. 5 Live on digital online smartphone and stop that quick look at the weather and it's a cloudy and wet night for many areas of England and Wales with a cool and clear one for those in the north looking ahead to later on Saturday heavy emphasis and rain will move southeast across England Wales for the North a brighter day with sunny spells although if you're in northern Scotland expect a few showers feeling rather chilly for mixed for. 3. Days. Next week 3 for a Scottish 3 for 6 I. Finally found a few. New sounds rather good so I was going to kick off. On this one you were talking football in America north and south to go any questions or comments on the football in the Major League Soccer League you saw in the caff region North and Central America and South America football then do you give us a call 885909693 that's 8. 8 590-9693 so we join his ever by the legendary know who is in Rio to recreate Good morning to. Good morning how you turned out very well thanks very much me 7 out of 10 for me I'm sorry about that but you know yeah I love the various Ferris wheel off a little bit of fluff in the theory 9 the programs as it were at I'll get there in the end doing a concert up of my tour in the past is it like a song. Yeah. No no a by way of introducing our next correspondent. John on hold because everything to do you know for American Central American football and to join our. I was better before we got one minute in the show without a song. I got 90 gesture in his well so every day that we had same thing is bad enough me trying to sing isn't it the feel free to join in and try your own little you've got to have a song in your heart yeah if you're from Texas as well Texas the whole move the great Buddy Holly you know where where where would America be without all. Of our kids and you don't know what you've been missing oh boy oh boy and of course he gave his name to another sport well they didn't realize it relates Yeah. Well they didn't realize there was a school name until he came over there and he's won in only tour of the United Kingdom which would have been about $958.00 just literally months before he died in that tragic plane crash with the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens Anyway that's by way of just introducing everybody to the fact that you're in Fort Worth this warningly . Yeah that's right but with a connection more Buddy Holly is from Mars he's a lucky saw the sculpture of his glasses oh right really in Lubbock Yeah that's right that's right I suppose he's the greatest citizen that's come out of Lubbock What Well where was a sculpture of his Gauss' at the Town Hall or were it's outside of the museum and there's another statue on downtown whoa and you get a sense of that sex makes music when you then you hear echoes of it I mean there's there's some and there's definitely a singer songwriter tradition there but I actually hear that some of that is continually being lost especially in a smaller towns it's very difficult I think for a music scene of any kind sort of be sustained so you know that they do a nice job trying to preserve his legacy with the museum and everything but yeah I'm afraid not as strong as maybe we would like to think and the most important question I suppose is do you know Peggy Sue did you bump into her in Lubbock No I mean she passed recently I believe soon as she passed and had done a lot of great things in her life beyond just being a muse you absolutely you're absolutely right she was the girl friend initially and then I say cities in what is a really really well let me press a bouncer Well actually he's given this information the a lot of people wouldn't want to and here is John he's going to be telling us next that he was there when Peggy Sue Got Married. I have to ask the question now that Jim is posed it where you think that's a little before my time gentleman what you should have said was Please do were no no no don't say that I told you saw Peggy Sue. The day he added no. It's true. To you if you don't believe. Do you recall it's been in the every song this is what I love cause the story could be wrong she's not 100 minutes nothing we've exceeded the song Call toll right now but hang on a 2nd we are talking about a party Holly had him come on Where's your manners my the guy's been said Lubbock Texas had a butch is it Buddy Holly's spectacles listening to you saying you know is yes Me thinks running that's why he. Very good very good I'm not going to be that today so let's leave that one side you have loved the conclusion of that song as well but I'm not going to sing it now. It will be people out there Cigna done please tell us is it true did you see we gave you know you got something more yeah yeah anyways you go the vocal. No question for everyone from Markie London if midfield isn't forwards are taken completely out of the equation who goes to. It's actually quite funny if midfield forwards midfielders and forwards it's taken completely out of the equation then. As the greats is played to revolt. That question from from Michael or from me in a result no this is different for Vikram It's a meter is a key question that says she's going to tell a boy to trust her. Defenders and go keep his talking of me to resume she is obviously she is a double gang of 4 Peggy says this is a. Of course still OK let's stop it that's exactly where I was told to stop it I don't want him to find out what the conclusion of the stories is going to have to google that one him so force me to go where we allow to come and invite the virtual jukebox tomorrow. Night your comments suddenly stop but it's OK. As long as you score at Trick or. Before they produce so we've taken the the key players out before the midfield is the foods. That the greats is playing. Just have a crack at it 1st Joe Davidson Oh listen here I think my nose might be the wrong interpretation of the question but I am tempted to go there but the car was still going from stem to region of course because in theory you'd still have to score goals and as we know was quite telling going forward so if we're talking about OK defenders are the only players that matter but you still have to have some sort of all around contribution to the game I think. That he could have a very good shot you know maybe maybe there are better stoppers certainly I think better defenders surely defenders but I think we're talking about a player who could do a little bit of everything that might be my answer and I you know I guess that I might have sort of mutated the question but I think we're already doing a fair bit of Roberta Carlos Rover the road to Coons. Yeah there are other players I think there's sort of had the same elements maybe all of that sort of ability to get to set up the score but I am personally quite well Tim. Well I think it's a terrific answer you know he's a fantastic player I'm going to interpret it in just a slightly different white. I think you can you can break down a certainly a team that wants to attack you can break down its functions into 3 when the ball set up the ply finish Now some people would say I mean Rizieq you would probably say no there's something missing from that which is defending but I think defending everything in defending is covered by winning the ball the point of not having the ball is to win it back if you want to attack if you want to defend then often you're quite happy for the opposition have the ball if you want to attack you want to win the ball. And then from then on you can you can launch your moves and organize your play so I'm going to go for frank about Izzy the main will be happy with that the great former mainline differend a center back because I think he's the best defender of ever seen and he's doing 2 things he's winning the ball in fact he's doing 3 things he's winning the ball he's passing the ball out of defense and starting up the move but he's also organizing the defensive line high in such a way that you're squeezing the opponent's space and meaning that when you win the ball you already higher up the field closer to the opposition's goal so if you are stronger if you're a midfielder and a striker Franco but is he has already done a lot of your job so I would interpret in that white but I think John's answer was terrific as well because Roberto Carlos normally a defender at left back now the amount I remember saying Roberto Carlos. Is playing for Brazil a Y U 2. Seen not only did he score this magnificent free kick goal whether Koch the goalkeeper didn't move I saw him get to the byline 3 times and do 3 different things all of them bright there are a lot of players who can do that you know there are a lot of full backs you can get to the byline let alone have the the calm and the ability to do 3 effective different things from that position so he was it was fantastic going forward and he could defend as well but but is he for the way that he could control the game from that sense about position that's enough for me Brazier rather than loathsome with loathsome a thing might say is yeah well I think I think much else was really more of a midfielder than a defender and he ended up beyond because the Germans at that time they were just fixated on the sweeper system so he ended up at the end of his career as a sweeper but I don't think he was a particularly good one I think he was in any prime you know say the 1990 World Cup He was a great central midfielder there are other great defenders and Bobby Moore was a much is a magnificent defender and not far behind but Izzy made nifty sense and you watch Bobby Moore against Pele 970 or the tackling did on Charles Zewe 970 that game against Brazilian 170 he searches the heights you know there's a there's a book out there it's a very good book on the history of South American football it's called Glass So it's by our Can't remember Andres companies are something of that is a year ago and I want to. No it's in English OK. So but it's in English very good I'm going to guess not if I mean if you're going to recommend it. It's not quite as great in Brazil as it is on the other can especially Argentina knew I was very good but anyway. I'm going to praise it now to damn it the for the very 1st page he talks about watching football with his dad and how his football is is that you're going to love the idea of dribbling out of defense and playing out a difference and how the cold Anglo Saxons don't. Do would never understand and I'm reading this and I'm thinking wow it's a great book but I think you got that one wrong because if you want to think of the best example the most effective example of a player defending calmly in his own box bringing the dribbling out different from his own box in a high pressure situation and making a goal it's probably more you know it's right at the end of a 66 World Cup final England are 32 ahead the Germans obviously piling on the pressure and more has the ball Jack Charnley sent its sense about partner's yelling you know put it in the stand put it in Rob said but will do that it is commonly dribbles around as if he's got all the time in the world and then he sends for the long precise pass for Jefferson to go on and I think it's all over it is now so I got I think more was more was so constructive and such a brilliant defender such a brilliant time of the tackle but I think but is he gets a nod for me because he can organize that defensive line hiree was brilliant at organizing the offside line denying the opposition spicing which to apply. It To. Selling sort of short goalkeepers as well obviously it's very difficult you know I see an ambassador contribute so to panels as well one just came out recently a list of best players here in the United States we have been M.L.S. 22 best players under 22 there's not a lot of goalkeeping prospects but I was thinking well maybe we'll list if there were and be very difficult to sort of put them in a context because their role is so different that a player like me or neuer you know maybe could be. In the mix as well as again someone who is is very talented at his specialty which is stopping shots but also we've seen him come out and play that sort of sweeper keeper role and you would assume given the opportunity 1st I think is eyes would light up to get forward with no forwards and midfielders but you would assume you can do good as well in the end the attacking half the pitch just because of what he shows or those 4 were going to build your pass out of the back with his with his when he's been he's playing that sweeper keeper also maybe a shot for the goalkeepers as well just so they don't feel left out as that's often the Andrea's compromise. That's the one plus the one couple MICHAEL MANSELL added on tonight it's got the book in his read and you know what joins is like street though Bush Spanish he's learning Spanish. You know he's learning Spanish the romantic way. Well you know I think the most romantic white for him to learn Spanish would be tame him to translate the transcripts of Hancock into Spanish That's a new session with his son might be another that would be very match I was thinking more in the kind of Lord Byron way you know in torn Jew and where he says what man called Love in the gods adultery is far more common whether climate sultry Anyway lots of abuse from singing Fey in London says that Heaven's sake stop singing the only person who is out to chew as you or any person who is as out of tune as you is me I have the decency not to sing if another person is present and by the way I saw Buddy Holly on that tour of the U.K. Which lets you know I'm a very old listener football phone in no you're not alone I'm not that old for a not that old and you choose your words very carefully very polite of you the way that you. Start the boot in see me others have been a lot less pro polite you know about my singing but then again I guess it doesn't matter anymore so I will move on well I didn't know you know that one question for now. A question for. Our sakes not feed same as for now. This is from Evan in Santa Monica California who says has the new rule requiring a minimum of minutes for players 21 years old and younger had any impact other positive or negative in league mags and stay with Mexico does John think that my favorite Mexican team Cruz as do a K. Lima kena will break their 21 year record of futility and take the apogee road side so. Yeah well go back to front 1st of all they've got a huge game Chris this weekend coached by. The former Rangers manager who is sort of I think run out of town I've been really fascinated with how Rangers fans still keep up with them and seem to sort of wallow or sort of delight in his misery a bit of shopping for their I don't think that's a Scottish word but you know and they seem to be happy when he fails recently for them they're sitting on top of the table right now they've been pretty fortunate because when you look at the numbers no team in Mexico has as many points as they do without with those few shots that they're really scoring a lot of goals that they probably shouldn't be they're getting a bit of luck here and there that said they've been phenomenal at home they've only allowed one goal and yes the U.S. Tech of the game it's month or it's morrow like I said Milly Smiffy game is at home so I expect them to do well will they break the UK I think that they have a really good chance because 1st of all they're still alive in the cup as well so they could lift the Cup trophy and look they did all the right things with their off season make over they brought in players who are familiar with Mexico a lot of times there's a learning curve it takes one or 2 short tournaments to get players up to speed they brought in players who are already familiar with the game and I think they reap the rewards when you look at one of the S. Hernandez has been able to do with them got out really Owen and Roberto Geraldo you want to keep an eye on supposedly Manchester United scouting him he's only 20 years old already has a Mexico cap or 2 maybe he'll get some more here in October so I want to watch for our European fans as far as the youth will this is a wall that Mexico instituted a quarter kind of brought back it was credited for developing players like Andre swore the and she just ate the lunch Lee obviously made their way so Europe and start from the national team it was a rule saying that you have to give a certain And the number of skips here right now that a certain number of minutes these youth players in the idea of developing young Mexican players what's the effect been 1st of all I think it's too early to say and 2nd I do think no matter what happens with. Going to need tweaking because if you have a player like Albert is going to start every single game and you've hit the cap I think it's within 4 or 5 games but if you don't have a player like that then you're tossing in players at this stage in the season trying to get minutes in and maybe hurting your playoff chances so I think it's a rule that probably needs revision its heart is in the right place but I'm not sure that imposing sort of hard caps is the right way to go about player development and say I love the question haven't checked back in 6 months maybe a year and I think we'll be able to decide if the fruits are worth. Bilal being put in. And speak to Alice is Seoul's Really Good morning morning. You good I mix there are thank you you've got to him and Joan with you go ahead thank you I just want to talk to him a quick question about Philippe Anderson 4 years ago I read an article saying that he was one of the best at the coming Brazilian players and he kind of went off the boil in last years but he's made his big money move to West Ham and he scored a great goal last week but what if he thought he could get back in the Brazilian squad like which Allison have. Aspies West Ham is his platform a little bit like his charlatan and rich Alison failed quite quite badly under 20 well under 20 level is taken very seriously here he fell quite badly at the start of last year. When Brazil filed even to qualify for the World Cup but on the 20 level that World Cup in England in a not winning and a similar thing happened to Philippe Anderson a few years ago he was it was part of a Brazil under 20 side that didn't even qualify my mind memory of him in Brazil when he was with sand source is the coaches yelling at him because you know accused him of being a little bit of a dream boat and you can see it is career there being some wild oscillations there but there were there was a time with. That he got in and around the Brazil scored very very briefly and then a good season was followed by a bad season so we'll have to see what happens with with West Ham and so far he just seems to me to be such a perfect West Ham player is almost like a reincarnation of Allan Devin shit Devon sure you know someone who's very very talented and does wonderful things but you wonder if he's going to do enough for them to be genuine you know if they're going to achieve the ambitions that they have for the club so he's going to have to put it together regularly to get in but I think he's got a chance and I think what West Ham will give him a platform I think that that the coach is a terrific coach for him to work under Pellegrini's easy is clearly a class act and will give him confidence so the balls on a penalty spot for him there's a lot of competition it's probably been a little bit easier for a charlatan because they've they've gone for him as a center forward which is not is natural position you know either tax from wide and Brazil have got lots and lots of options in no those. Attacking from wide spaces but at center forward this you know the World Cup left them scratching their heads a little bit I thought the gap in which is it solve the problem and then he had a poor Cup Do I need to feel Mino but he's a real center forward Well perhaps I need more physical presence well maybe he shall listen can do that he's kind a little mixture of of a wide strike around and a center forward so I think the Gateway's been a little bit easier for rich Allison because they can shoehorn a mean at center forward at the moment you look at the the team and you wonder exactly where fully pianists and can can slot seen but you know that this is a new cycle for Brazil so there are places to be won so it's up to him now to keep producing on a consistent basis and it's not good enough you're wonderful grins I thank her and before you go can I was your question you can say yeah you probably get asked this all the time nowadays but how Toure how high is the spire. Along to your welcome and let's now remember exactly if you're honest I'm sorry it's quite a lot and it's it's quite quite it's like yeah apparently the whole world knows they'd say You know it's all a spy in Britain Well I'm going to keep you guessing but other listeners might tell you which we know through Talk to make sure you keep listening thank you it's obvious question thank you Alex thanks for calling 080-859-0969 extension 3 is our number if you'd like to join in the conversation for the World Football phone in actually there was another e-mail here that refers to Brazilian footballers in their room pawns shown from jumping from one national team to another we'll come back to that in a moment I would say but I'm sure you all want to hear the kind of level of vitriol my singing has gotten it wasn't even singing I was just trying to do the party already but where shall I start. Just after the beginning or from the end goes which way you want which way round you and well whatever way you do it's not going to find a way no there's no. Certainly not in the mud version of fading away. Did you get that job did you get that chorus of chorus because I'm not going to tell you how it's going to be. Allowed to sing any world was or be much more of use I am going to say has got to be you've got to give your love to me but 1st let's go the latest 5 headlines with Mitch Mansfield from digital on my smartphone and tablet this is B.B.C. 5 Live 2 King U.S. Senators have backed President Trump's controversial pick for the Supreme Court making his confirmation almost certain pride Cavanagh's faced an F.B.I. Investigation into sexual assault claims which he denies several issues that have been stalling breaks it all could be close to being resolved in service to significant progress has been made in the negotiations with the U. But there still uncertainty over the Irish border tens of thousands of people have signed up to a new service from 2 online banks designed to help problem gamblers in its customers block transactions with betting companies and of course for traditional high street banks to offer the same service and local media reports suggest the Chinese head of Interpol has been taken away for questioning after arriving in his home country men home ways family haven't heard from him since he left the International Police Agency headquarters in France last week Nick Paton has the support the former Manchester United captain Gary Neville has accused the club's board of playing football manager with the biggest club in the world is south report that manager Jos a marina will be sacked after today's game against Newcastle level told Sky Sports that he was furious at the idea of managers dismissal be leaked before being made official United have not responded to questions about the reports when they've all saying there was something rotten to the core with United's to say since they sackings of Marina's previous S's Louis van Gaal and David Moyes were both reported before the club's official announcement United also have responded to a request for confirmation about information given to the B.B.C. That Marino and his agent George. When Desmond unite is executive vice chairman Ed Woodward in London yesterday and this was the reason why the club's weekly press conference was held at 8 am in that's Marina reiterated his view that the season was always going to be a tough one this team can go much further than what is the world and that it will go much further than what he's doing but if you want it or if you go if it at all last season was a fantastic season for us and if you also saw more interest is and I also told that this is it was going to be very difficult Brighton have their 2nd Premier League win of the season at the glamorous 1st half goal was enough to give them a one little victory at home to West Ham It ends a run of 6 matches without a win in all competitions and the brighter manager Chris Hughton felt his side did just about enough the most important thing is the 3 points we rode a luck a little bit we had to defend very very well we made some poor choices at times on the ball which I think allowed in a western chain to preserve a little bit more of the possession the world than what we would have liked but you know these are the things that you have to do to get to get a result and this is not something a one player that hasn't had to put in a real tough shift to get a result I wouldn't moreas are through to the Super League Grand Final after beating cassava Tigers 14 mail at the W. Stadium Thomas Lu and the departing Sam Tompkins with the try scorer's means head coach Sean Wayne will take his side to face Warrington in Old Trafford and his final game in charge next Saturday the British of Old Trafford on the probe will do money and we're getting more and more real a protocol in the rowing today without the French and British but almost a woman and an armful were spotted for the plough when the stuff that we got was a thought to be honest revolution. Of Grover told off a little you know where you really were and I want to go those are winners really one way to go to Exeter Chaves made it 6 wins from their opening 6 premiership games as they went 3924 hours passed and the pro forte in their wins for Edinburgh go on Collatz tour will happen still as. A good chance of winning a 3rd successive Scottish Links Championship is an 8 under par after a 2nd round bogey free 66 at Carnoustie to move to one shot off the late that's how I show my games in a good place so if I go out there and have a good couple of days and there's no reason why I. Left anyway there's a lot of great players there song after play some really good golf to watch you have a chance but that's what I try and do and I was given the British more administrates the semifinals of the China Open after a straight sets victory over Serbia's do some leverage that's the latest from B.B.C. Sport For breakfast I like this text I don't like happy bouncy people in the morning 50 point one talks of the boy. In America north and the self. And legendary No JOHN ARNOLD into victory respects for leak and risk sets who really were all says well. You know what I mean that's the main things are going to do I think the reason that you stumble there is that we're all very very emotional you know you've got you've got Mitchell you've got Mitch Mitchell reading the news and one of our own and then lose one of our graduates you know we were raised him from a baby in it you know and now he's graduated from the toy shop around Rome with us let me visit reading the news in a very somber. And I mean you hear like a professional and all the rest of it and what we made him we made him what he stood and let me just clarify for 1st you say that we raise him as a baby you had to change in nappies after he started eating the same food that we I mean I was happy was he was still sucking his mother's breast because you know well it's delicious isn't it but you you you you got to do with him afterwards. Is that the entire life on marriage right oh yeah exactly you know going to leave early on he learns an I.O.U. Lonesomeness a question Donald now. A couple more. Please don't sing please and sing pleasers That's all I ever get so I think OK this one is for you that. Has to experience the atmosphere of souls re Cathedral. Now going up in there as from Sean in Cumbria you've never been there if you're not a Russian body Johnson because all of Russia and dad yeah Nama refusenik Danny's would says Glenn Mari is the 3rd guy's English score in 2018 is scored against West Ham last night as well or after his goal tonight in the win against West Ham at 35 he's the info is in the form of his life he doesn't run much but his positioning is head and shoulders above anyone else in your region are there any players that produce their best seasons in their latter years Tim 1st of and then John. I remember. A center forward called. Who played for Brazil early ninety's and he was a little bit similar He was a bit more of a bane pole than. Glenn Mari but he was a little bit similar in that he didn't he never had great pace I suppose you know you could fall Teddy Sheringham in this kind of thing you know that kind of striker who you know they never have great pace so as they get older and lose a little bit of ice it doesn't matter that much because they didn't have a very much to lose anyway but as they get older they just understand much much more understand where to go and if they've got the technique to be able to play in . Their Fair their fellow striker if you have a quick striker around them then that combination can work really really well so that this fella if I kind of ease into his mid thirty's he was still absolutely terrific because I remember him working very very well with edgy Moondog Vasco you know they would use it you move those pace and every year just his knowledge of the game is knowledge of where to go and is his ability to flick on and pass on into the right areas so he would be he would be a case but I suspect we find a few of that type of player strikers who are not particularly quick don't have pace to lose but gaining experience and perhaps gaining technical quality in gaining Karma as they get older and I suspect that you have a few of those kind of plays in your region is as world your not least because they're often imported at the age of $35.00 after they've lost their pace and they just have their positioning to rely on. Yeah that's definitely true I mean I think that some great M.L.S. Players in the form of Carlos Ruiz and blast as well also are legendary Comcast International's. Panama of course or some of the World Cup just this year Carlos Ruiz a lot Amala I think is the all time leading scorer for the entire region so. He went rolling we've had an interesting emergence of an older player in the past 2 years in Atlanta at the back Jeff Lorena What's the guy who had a long M.L.S. Career he's been in the league since 2005 I think he's $35.00 at this point and goes to Atlanta and everyone's kind of Santa or what the heck is Tata Martino doing sign in Jeff Leno it's not going to work that's not going to and for whatever reason he's become sort of a fulcrum of the team has been very influential in the end you know maybe because there's so much speed around him so many players who are so good with the ball around him but in his mid to late thirty's he started to have sort of a 2nd or maybe 3rd win that I think a surprise a lot of people as well but I do agree with especially when you're talking about you know being in the right place the right time forwards a lot of times sort of have that 2nd life when if they haven't been dependent on their pace and I think that. Really is a good examples of that maybe even Wayne Rooney as well I know I might I might get some e-mails tonight I doubted Wayne Rooney's abilities when he came to D.C. United and it looks like I was wrong to do so so he's been you know having another another. Go around that is not the right word another push as well with D.C. United and maybe we can put him in that category although he's only there it's. Interesting and always Firstly when there's a footballer of a certain age to these 2 maybe to do it because they have to adapt their game so considerably to you know I always pride when you when you see a footballer who says you know like Wade really did look people give him credit. When he lost his pace he depth today's game to suit him all the defensive posture he was to school with the goals to take some low. Christian Eldo Real Madrid you know that job done did it did on on him or that was a wonderful you know because not quite the physical capacity to be the one man attack any more so he's going to reduce the area that he has to cover and he's going to be effective in that area and obviously helps if you've got the technique of a Christian or an elbow but you need to you need to be able to define yourself as a player what is my function what is my function in this team and exactly the point there that John was making about Lance or in the States you know you look at that same you know that on the South Americans they signed they're just so much Express pace so that means if you've got an experienced player who surrounded by pace you know because that seems like one living breathing unit and you know you pull these what one of my finest definitions of football come comes from Socrates and not the Arsenal defender who is not the Arsenal defender or the great philosopher but at the lights like Brazilian captain. Up picked this up it's in this documentary that I was involved in about Brazil's 9900 Unfortunately we couldn't interview SOCRATES Because we if we had the budget to go and meet him where he is now we didn't have the budget to get back now because he's no longer with us so we had to use a used a clip of him talking before and its definition of football was like arts like painting it's like a whole group of people together making one painting and they're all working at different aspects of it and I think that that's such a beautiful definition of what football is now because you need people with different talents to make the one painting that one painting it won't work just replace you know you need to have positional sense as well and. So I think that that's part of the joy of putting a team together in a team is made of little partnerships you know you know partnership here you know partnership there and it's a little bit like John Lennon talks about that the process of writing a song just let it get a little bit so you work out what it's all together I think football's a lot like that as well I think it's critical to him what you mention as well where you know these older players especially and sometimes younger players and players in a primary to put in a position to succeed they have to be in a role where they can succeed and the rest of the team has pace and you don't need it's because you can learn that it can work out but if you're being asked to still put in you know long sprints 4 times a game 5 times a game when your body physically can't do that you're not going to have success you know sometimes I hear players get criticized or people are going to be harsh on a player Well he didn't get forward Well I wasn't asked to get forward so I mean that's where the manager's job comes in to sort of put that painting together and sort of master plan perhaps what that final work of art is forced to work with and just returning back to the question of the greatest football football of all time if you take out forwards and midfielders Dez says I take your point about the great defenders but I'm a Liverpool fan and I have to say moron blown for Man United was an artist I saw him live a few charms and he books the game and both never was by the way and he was an old man to boot so yeah yeah wonderful. And the nurses says he's surprised I didn't use my programme to promote car news hearts charity football match last weekend but anyway he's a frequent Lister So our football program I'm presuming he means Carly or not he himself. And he wants to know whether there are any footballers with such charity programs in America or North America north football is having their own share. Drive raise money. Yeah absolutely there's a lot of players who have amazing and commendable things I think Emma last sort of has taken a cue from a lot of the other many major American League swear it's a very critical part to get involved in the community. I don't necessarily want to spotlight one because there are so many great organizations in Mexico the same sometimes Laguna is very well known every time they go on the road the day before the game they have some sort of service project where they go to a neighborhood that needs help in the in the city that they're visiting or they go to a local you know charity event or food bank to kind of help get it get excitement going and get people out there as well as being involved in local mission of so certainly applaud those in the U.S. Are just really plentiful those opportunities to sort of link charity and support the supporters groups get involved as well so it's something really common here and a nice way to sort of. Support bring the football family together and kind of South America Vote. Yeah it's quite common There's one for example it comes to mind 2 players one was the brother of Socrates he who went into the world the 9094 World Cup as Brazil's captain and his former teammate Leonardo the pair of them from middle class backgrounds and obviously in a world of football when I'm mixing for so many people from much less favored backgrounds and both of them having a strong social conscience I got together to to have a kind of a charity which is both football and educational It's called Gold gold you left right which is a quite quite nice pun. It's a goal of letters and also. Is a kind of move in football as well Jesson the the great from 1970 he has his own kind of charity there you know with the it's a bit of football and a bit of education it's quite I'm Cafu he has a foundation it's quite common in South America because most of the players that they've come up the hard way or in the case of high end Leonardo they've been surrounded by people who come up our way so that there are plenty of them we want to give something back afterwards yeah OK can you asked him where the Lucas Pickett is Agent is in Liverpool as we speak is there any truth in the rumor and easy any good. Look look at the packet I don't know about this it looks like this is an attacking midfielder with Flamingo it looks as if when he just got into Brazil scored looks as if they want to sell him next year. He scored 2 goals tonight Flamingo playing correct him and he's got series you've got a couple ahead of us and he is a player and he's only a kid not 2021 he's come through very very strongly there's a lot of talent there left footed good engine has some quality He's a player who still has to define himself now that thing of like what's my part of the painting he's been used in a lot of different roles I've seen him at center forward have seen him mall out wide left a wide right I've seen him in a more central midfield role you don't want him too close to your own goal because it is something stupid and give the what ball away in bad places I think he's a support striker and I think there's a possibility of attacking midfielder struck support striker I think there's a possibility of a left footed caca there. Even needs to be there's plenty of development has to go on he needs to calm down a little bit as well you know it's tough going you know what into years going from being an unknown to being a huge star with you know Brazil's biggest club and sometimes you see him pay a price for the sea can be a little bit precious a little bit too much yapping at the referee and as I say he still apply in the process of defining himself defining what his role in the pitch is but there's a lot of talent there I think he's the next big money signing to come out of Brazil were the one question tonight and there's got a lot of interest from a listers is a question of who would be the best footballer if you took out midfielders and strikers and. Appears has been suggested not least because of the impact he has or new games or he had on games Brian in Essex. You want to throw in a suggestion as well on this Good morning if. Just. One of the legendary exactly in the same dish. Me. Coming to the yes say you join Arnold's panel Modine Inc Yeah I think it's I think it's a great suggestion as well. We've talked before on the show defense can be very difficult to judge and I think that you know Mel Deni and and bloggers Well the suggestion that we had are also you know when the when they made it look sort of pass the player role we appreciate what Messi and Ronaldo do in the intact because of how they make him look great and those are defenders who I think made it look artful and Brian nice I think something goes there Brian why you go from oh they me bro. I think he has. A bit more will follow or even a football. Right so you. Can. Produce a more. If they can. Get him it was you that mentioned. Yeah stick with these magnificent player bucks as I look back I'm going to go with Roberto Carlos over mouthing me and as a center back I'm going to go about Izzy over meltingly I think someone should should wake up meaner and give it a casting vote. I wish I did do that she probably needs to get up and drink water at this time anyway you know other water intake is it's probably slack slack in a little bit of the White Rock she can go and drink a water in and then she can come and give us give us a casting vote. Brian Brian is with Dana I can't you know magnificent plies what about somebody from over here Brian. Clearly here I suppose one of the Blue Mountains. Effect in late June from John Terry Yeah good show certainly get these little to go to Rio New York for a while but John Terry Rio Ferdinand knows Terry every talent. Buried in the attacking So everything's. Cry all the noise. And again the football worrying. It certainly makes He said the fact they didn't have praised me always seemed to be the right place and the ride Saabs is going to go because he knew where to position themselves that he did that and as. Well as and the brass all the top brass was always fond of saying. He never let people not make him. Never go you know. And as well a little. Quality in many years going back to some of the great job usually they know. I'm going to survive it I don't think you. Should partnership or Lawrenson and. Magnificent One i'm so many I'm sorry to because they were constructive they played so well together and I were constructive to say I never think that defending is not interrupting the guy it's not stopping the guy watching defender. Is still in it it's winning that it's winning the ball and then saying the moves into operation and Hanson and Laura suggest that somehow. Yank if he could find the power he quite often Loki's life forward. To maybe others far too long before you try and fall somewhere else well she sure think well she got tossed out quite odd because he. Could wear printing it make sense enough to call appreciated prime called out anytime now. Lovely thanks very much not treasure 808-590-9693 is a number like to join in this conversation as well and say what you mean about defending and defend is building up the play for any that's where it should start from but you do have to have a love for the the great art of tackling you know if you're going to be a great defender of cards I don't know any even in certain even Chopper Harris Yeah you know Chelsea who was a hard hard man I remember him sign once that he's best gains when he didn't have to make a tackle you know why that meant you got to the ball 1st you know sometimes the tackle is obviously a it's a key part of football but sometimes you can avoid the need by good positioning and but by pace and good position you can get to the ball 1st you can you can reduce the need to make a tackle because you're already on the ball and the ball's already already passed in a way John I don't know if you've got a view on this some not sure where you know Chopper Harris would put it this way A mate of mine the great Dennis Bovell the the reggae producer he went to school when he was in school he went to the gym once and guess it was a pee you know would. Jump back in the day when he came I think he said to pour you know a good game in there or whatever it was when he was done is kind of us see what you see what a contradiction you're tpi teachers Chapa Harris and you become a leading light of love as Rock last time was he who I don't know how it works out route so he this takes it back to the days when a lot of football stars had said have part time jobs teaches through teaching physical training at schools you know you going to school in see somebody that you so imagine Don is that a but but the point. Just a job about defending is not having to exact will be a sign of how good the defending zat May says Do you. Think so and I mean I think it's interesting talking about this idea defender sort of being the 1st line of attack I mean I think you sort of flip it on its head as well we've seen teams and now it's a very modern idea that the attackers the 1st line defense right and as Tim mentioned the idea nest isn't necessarily for a forward you know put in a put in a slide tackle and win the ball from the center back obviously not but if they can make that center back make a mistake and they can win the ball back then that is defending and so I think it's quite a modern idea and interesting to hear and think about some of these players from these glory days in that context because it's sort of a very modern idea to have a center back who even would dribble the ball the center line and and the halfway line and maybe get a little nervous but still look for a pass I mean that's something where that's required now you have to be that player if you want to succeed so I think it definitely resonates with me and makes a lot of sense I think it's going to point to try and get you both to consider reconsider and include Ronald Kuhlmann Ronald Cuban in your suggestions and one of . My problem with him is that I think as a defender he was very slow and he was he was vulnerable as a defender he was very very constructive and magnificently free kicks and magnificent at distributing deploy as it was only when I was little and he has exactly what he thought he could be got at different simply Yes exactly doesn't mention the defense not that you have a valid point because you forget when he does something the different result posed to do which is like strike your free kick for about yards out and score go from you forget about his inadequacies in the position he's posed to be it and our listeners says here what about road acumen good free kick. Spread of the bull from the pack good organizer of the sea but nothing about is defending that. Makes your point I suppose how about this one this is from David he was in Mexico City and he says. May he. But he also says the same Jonah do the last word now on what it is because you do. The even. Over this says. It's an accident you're usually condemned for the falling below. When you. Now actually David was to give him a call so maybe we could give him a call he said to me I'll call him so you could do your your villa for him and say let him do it no no no no no no no no it's because of it now we know my wife you know how long was he much I got out of doing. This is. Obvious if you still were listening I hope for you he took 3. I get in the nick every time I meet somebody from the Black Country which always abuses on the other way yeah you get a black eye and a black country and you get sick you just not you know. Very good very good and I'd like Muddy Waters when I get to the Black Country right now I'm a huge huge demand everybody does Oh wait 085909693 I genuinely chary I get out of a bad Mexico City David because it will be something to me hold my lease to be here you know what's what in the oral version to be how old were you guys everybody done English university Well we're fine at the moment it's a fast for news. For anyone else C.B.C. 5 it's 3 o'clock Good morning this is not a fog lab I'm also an advisor I'm a nice on fine line Fred Kaplan is open confirmed as a US differing court judge in sport Gary Nabel at Sox The Manchester United but what I meant of course that Joe you say Marina has to be said. This is. 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