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On B.B.C. Counties radio. Today's program genuinely paid equally for the. People paid more than people from an ethnic background we know there's been a gender pay gap. And age gap as well. You'd like to think that was my workplace discrimination recent efforts as yes that there are of course you can text. Your text 3. Quite some time seeing. Should all museums. And should we expect to pay more at premium. Some of these places. Favorite museum. Maybe elsewhere around the world. Most of the museums are free but should the. One of the big stories of the day has been this the company's before surreal the ethnicity pay gap under plans unveiled by the prime minister tell minorities at work Mrs May has launched a consultation on whether mandatory reporting will help address disparities between the pay and career prospects of minorities and she's acknowledged that minorities often feel like they're hitting a brick wall at work The move follows a decision to make firms reveal their gender pay gap which we have perhaps turned a blind eye to for far too long so we know there's a gender pay gap is that also an ethnic pay gap are you paid less if you're from an ethnic minority what's your story. On the phone 08081 double 0 Double A We know this is gender pay gap that hopefully is being addressed properly we're trying to find out if there is an ethnic pay gap whether you are paid less because of your message they or the cover of your skin 3 then deduce as well from that there's an age gap as well that you're paid less depending on your age it's a bigger conversation that it 1st appears debate takes date 13 double 3 Start your text if you want to touch to it takes 3 if you want to join the conversation this whole report the going to put together quite interesting the race disparity and what it is a lot of work into that if you start digging through the details it does throw up some really fascinating questions but we'll talk about ethnic pay gap do you think you have been paid less or you are paid less because of your ethnicity We'll talk about that you can tweet me at all. You can Facebook me and it's the Grammy there's e-mail Roberta Peroni at B.B.C. Took 30 K. And then can we talk museums because this is a conversation that's been brewing for quite a while it's conversation that's been had in fact across Europe and we've probably you've probably got a museum whether it's a local museum with one of the big national museums or maybe it's one of those museums or one of those iconic museums elsewhere around the world but should all museums challenge you face and should you pay a premium peak times a number of papers have been following the story for the last few days and they have reported a suggestion that museums and galleries should challenge people more for visiting weekends the former M.P. Tristram Hunt is the director of the tour and I would museum and he suggested that a premium smart price should be introduced for popular visiting times with weekdays costing less. Free museums and galleries are a blessing the. Only way I will bless in this country with a huge number of the free venues to go and explore the arts and own history but there is a cost question about how do you sustain these magnificent facilities should they challenge and intrigue they Some also donations but should they actually put. It to go into natural should museum and then it becomes complicated because it's Tristram Hunt the director the V.N.A. Said Will lot of people spend a lot of money they will pay a premium for cricket for fetes for the cinema a full football matches why shouldn't people buy a premium at weekends during school holidays to go to a museum or not and what do you think. Smack in the sun is next Smokey Robinson America's Tracks of My Tears gone off to maybe it's 50 minutes past 3 workplace discrimination exists and we've found that out until recently with the gender pay gap before you genuinely paid equally for the work you produce all. To put it bluntly all white people paid more than people from an ethnic background companies may be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap on the plans unveiled by the prime minister to try and help minorities at work Mrs May has launched a consultation on whether Amanda true reporting will help address differences between the pay and career prospects of community and the move follows a decision to make firms real the gender pay gap but is it real and that this is not the easiest subject in the world to get into but actually it is one of the most valid speak to a doctor of the education race stop Tomalin Ellis Dr Very good afternoon to you Good afternoon welcome that many people would have perhaps turn their nose up and said there's no such thing there is no gap between men and women between between races ethnicity or even age but the the the the gender gap. Is something going on. Yes So I mean I think it's. You know it be difficult to believe that it's probably equal across race and ethnicity and that it's just gender. And that everything is fine across class as well I think it's a problem even when we had. B.B.C. Star reveals what they earned a lot of black stars working for the B.B.C. Were actually afraid to leave feel anything for fear of losing their jobs so. There was this portion of the amount of well I wonder what the blacks fall far but there was relative silence and I know that some of. Approach were afraid to do that so we publicly shoot inequality race and ethnicity and I don't think that would surprise anybody OK how do we how do we set to uncover had to go about uncovering this I mean I'm trying to read the government's rights disparity about it from the Cabinet Office is often and there's a lot of that to go through how do we prove to people if we did the conversation a year ago maybe more about the gender pay gap and said there are men and women are paid the same Clearly they are not and have not been how do you prove that your ethnicity may have a bearing on what you paid. You know I think the biggest problem is a lack of will I mean even in this announcement this is a consultation to find out. As if we don't already know and this consultation would just last until January and quite honestly you know we have to be careful with consultations that it has the performance of being concerned without actually any real commitment and intent to do anything I'm not sure whether we need another consultation and treason May was the women inequality is also a minister. You know she didn't do a great deal to learn she hasn't done a great deal in the last reshuffle for women on her cabinet and the U.K. Was one of the countries that objected to quotas went for the European Commission for bombing the countries about the will that look like that can I just interrupt you there for a moment and Miss This is made the prime minister didn't make a huge make huge inroads when she changed the cover a point to the cabinet Surely you should appoint people on the merits on on their merits not because they're man woman told say in fact white black do you that surely anybody should be appointed all merit alone. You know I think we've got I mean this is what Margaret Thatcher set in with her we're still in the same place when we have these arguments it suggests there's a sort of that are causing me to suggest that if you don't have a woman it's to do with her ability or a black person is to do with their ability but we don't say peace if we say a lot of white men do it we don't YOU can't we can't really level that accusation threesome as prime minister when she's appointed such a job it is the home secretary of the the most high ranking roles in government. Yeah and also we've got this shown plainly for any human perspective they're blind and yes Kendra yeah now that the problem is that they certainly are black people out there we can't argue that but actually if you look at for example Sean Taylor's recent comments 1st week it had a lot of culturalism sex making had tracked single mothers This is absurd of a performance of a lot of stereotyping So it's not enough just to choose black people you know from when we're really looking at the breakdowns of how you're going to pay. Black people and when. Looking really deep down into the substance of it this is about a commitment a will to do equality and rather than the performance of equality which is what's this prime minister is doing when we look at the Home Secretary if we can we just broaden the idea of an ethnic pay gap does it exist Dr and how do we prove it will we have people now coming forward and say look on I think I am paid 10 percent less than my colleagues in same job because of my if Misty is not going to be the story here I have heard of the in Egypt you can put it on individuals because people want to keep their jobs I think the Equality Act 2010 had a lot of good ideas about what you about the public commitment the public changes to disclose to public bodies and they've been lots and lots and lots of discussions about quotas so the corporation representation which they've cut this government normally blocks so look we have a poker face you cannot pretend you're really committed to these things and have a lack of will at the same time. Line so I am suggesting to use that it's not difficult to stop and I just wish and put these things in place and it was really tense to do this and the equality. That was water. And aren't you know so it's always about honesty the lack of Loo will make little changes. A mostly there for time reasons out of it sank you for your time is often end of the modern Ellis' an exponential cation and rice the gender pay gap we know it exists we know it's there and it's being addressed hopefully by the big corporations the search is on now to see whether there's enough an ethnic pay gap how do we prove it. Easy possible there is a genuine ethnic pay get that you paid less because your ethnicity or an age gap as well or you paid less depending on their stage in your life you can text at 138 double 3 Start your text 3 C.R. . And Molly my some questions of 3 of my the promise that she can because a lot of things are in the wind was an absolute scandal but I don't see unique use the prime minister appointing people in a cabinet. For anything less than their ability I mean such a job at Home Secretary in the psych Surely she's appointing people and she has appointed people for the right job the right people for the right job. I will talk museums where they should charge and whether you charge a premium at peak times and that means paying a little bit more at the weekend or during school holidays and you catch up with a story that's emerging from Australia Australia is planning to ban new migrants from living in Sydney and Melbourne in an attempt to alleviate pressure on schools health care public transport and housing similar problems we've had here of course . Is it an infringement of someone's right if we tell them yeah more than welcome to come and live in the U.K. But we will tell you when you can leave them with the phone. Good. For you trouble very devious going to be busy. Busy. Main Road sounds and as there is an ongoing incident only that will have an impact on the M 25 as we head into was the peak of. The rush hour you can call you can text your travelers through the place above all else stay safe as the nickel will come back to your comments very shortly because generous is off thank you so much. This pay gap so a really important story is a really difficult story to to break down To be honest with you but we don't do easy progress we know there is a gender pay gap and that hopefully is being addressed. If there has been a gender pay gap where women paid less have been paid less than men is it safe to assume there's also an ethnic also an age gap as well so what's your story do you think you might be paid less because of your ethnicity. I will talk museums with the museums should charge a fee and with that faith should be a little bit increased a premium charged the weekends and during the school holidays. B.B.C. 3 Counties radio. I'm watching only everyone know the name crawling from Junction. Down now heading into home plate and it's like I'm very busy only by that. Direction. Right junction. Right that's already crawling. Like happened. And it won't fit the. Roundabout Emmet in B.B.C. 3 Counties radio. Just before. Through the Russia and into the early part of the evening every 15 minutes the best try. All live on the radio. The bed and this is B.B.C. 3 Counties radio. 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Control series a fantastic business panel. Politics damages from 6 to 91 of them belong 4 to making this play for a long long time the landlady runs a pub in Ellsbury and hosts regular politics debates and her puppies could be amazing and other great guests joining us will look I will come back to this takes the test reviler a story has been knocking around for 24 hours or so any idea what happened there could have been potentially Valorie apart on the brink of collapse the Catholic chain says it needs an immediate injection of capital to continue trading or will fell the uncovered a black hole a financial black hole of many millions of pounds How's that possible. 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Right Marian says Rob I'm surprised that Tristram Hunt suggesting museum charges since he was part of a Labor government who stopped the charges for museums as he will know and more ordinary people more more new people can afford to go to museums and shows in the especially because of the cost not just getting the price of tickets or suggesting a fee is not on because in all areas of the Arts where the museums will theaters will only be for the so-called middle classes and above can you imagine how many customers will get the Rothchild train museum if they start charging even if it is middle class tring says Matt and me with some really good points. Strangely enough this story about museums and art galleries has been doing the rounds across Europe or some of not been look at it vaguely on a for a couple of months then all countries have the same problem with the level of austerity and trying to balance the books and how do you pay for the arts and how do you pay for these magnificent buildings museums and art galleries because it is very expensive. To keep my pen and to run them and the ideas being floated again to charge for museums and to then charge a premium at peak times so weekends when there are more people going in school holidays Christmas break for example you'd get you get paid more is that acceptable and we have there are great museums every country has one for museums that we have of the British Library British Museum Natural History Museum natural we blessed with museums Manawatu and locally everywhere you go across beds on some bucks there are some outstanding museums but should they charge and should they charge a premium at peak times you can tweet talk all on the issue over the ethnic pay gap how do we prove it exists that I think is the key question companies be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap on the plans of the old by the prime minister to help minorities work I don't think you can actually level any accusation of her for trying to do the right thing which she seems to be we now know there is a gender pay gap and that hopefully is being addressed is there an ethnic pay gap is there also an age gap as well. Steve Israel obviously motorcycles from the 40 years in that time I've only met a few black people running them should the government look into the reason why and what about all the poor low paid pale looking people in this country in reality it's that even certain industries the promotion will go to a by a black person that is these days is they've lost the government will be on to them if they thank you. It's not true if you look whatever you do for whatever you may have done for a living. Have you ever thought that you were paid less than your colleagues your work friends because of the color of the skids. Riffle for about this story that's emerging from all straight Australia plans to ban new migrants from living in Sydney and Melbourne the policies designed to counter population growth in the 2 launches cities in Australia and alleviate the pressure on schools the health care system public transport and even housing similar problems I guess to the ones we experience in some parts of the U.K. . Naturally tend to migrate towards London and the south east but is it any infringement of someone's rights if we tell them yes you will the welcome to come to the U.K. To work and live and make your home aesthetic but can we tell them where they can get to which parts of the country. Strains are pretty radical thing immigration police have very fierce of course very protective of the state. But it's just the right way to do it and would it work here we'll deal with that story in the next 1015 minutes all told museums whether museums should charge a fee and should perhaps pay a premium at peak times a number of newspapers a reporter the suggestion this week of the museums and galleries should charge people more for visiting weekends the former M.P. Tristram Hunt who is the director of the Victorian home museum has suggested that a premium small price should be introduced for popular visiting times with weekday visits costing a lot less so should we start paying an interfaith Museum in an gallery and should be expected more on the weekends and school whole day for example when the busier Let's talk to genius historian and author Jane very good afternoon to thank you for joining us. Jane this is all down to smart pricing as they very cleverly call it is a good idea no you know I don't think we should be charging for museums connect to this into a tool you know you want to take your children to their education. All the things I did in the school holidays. I can't believe. We're talking about just. How do you fund them then. I know it's difficult and I do know that that is that I can see that the dichotomy and we did we are blessed with locally some amazing museums and galleries nationally of course I mean we really have got beautiful be wonderful institutions in the community and across the world of course these places are just brilliant but the place full of them. I know it's difficult I paid last year to go to the Royal Academy for the king child exhibition and pay quite a lot of money but it was fabulous and I understood that those pieces those pieces there ought had been right across the world some of them to be put together again you know for the 1st time in a font just so yes I grizzled but I paid so I do understand that there is a cost to all these big exhibitions but I still think we should do our very very best to keep it free for families and for the people who live in this country I mean maybe we do put at risk tax on maybe we do start to charge I pay when I go to other countries maybe that's what we do good if you've got a local postcode maybe you get in for free and perhaps if you are to restore a visitor you don't I mean that's an interesting proposition it's come up before because how do you how do you differentiate between someone who lives in the U.K. a Tax U.K. Tax payer and someone is here on holiday at the point of entry Do you often show. Some form or D. a Passport or something usually scan exactly the question of are you discriminating at the point of entry. So I think you probably are but I don't think that if I'm a right to. Expect to get into my local museum for nothing I'm paying for it on time so I would expect to provide proof of where I live and if my postcode it's and opens to it if you go to the ram him you see him and Dobyns if your local ratepayer is different than if you're a visitor. You me asking Jane how much you pay for all economy roughly. I think it was but 25 times and for most people not a huge amount for some they just haven't got 25 pounds because you've got a family for example the question then is. How do you have a 2 tier system where you have you know an art gallery shows the basic some basic works of art and then if something except you comes on only people who can pay can see and there are lots of different connotations and that's why the stories is so complicated I think it's very complicated I think your average museum your big museum the British Museum the V.N.A. I think they have to stay as free they are part of everyone everyone said to cation and we should all be able to benefit from that I don't think we should ever go back to charging for those things I think there is some justification for charging for special exhibitions that have obviously cost a lot of money to gather together and to push on like they were kind to me. And although I'm not you know I'm not happy about paying 20 and then I accept I'm going to have to pay because there's been a lot of people involved in it and a lot of movement and it costs so yeah I can see some of it but I just think we should we need to sort of way that banner and say come on this is education this is going to be free showers we can possibly manage to do it Jane pleasure talking with even more parents taking kids out of school during the week by the way the new settlements tumble museum is free I'm being young and trying to get sometimes a thank you. Education Culture is vitally important to our upbringing not just the children brought us it's good for the soul but being to not gallery museum is amazing right and we have we are blessed in this country locally with some really museums nationally with some world Colossus museums British Library National Gallery the Science Museum the V.N.A. Birthplace of the stuff Tristram Hunt former M.P. The director of the museum is going into this week suggesting that museums and art galleries should charge people more for visiting at weekends and there's a lone running conversation here about whether we should charge for museum an art gallery entry anyway because someone has to pick up the tab you more the book to tell me about your favorite museum and how it works around the world because this conversation I mean sometimes they can everyone is suffering some level of austerity and trying to find out how to fund the arts cuts the Smithsonian I want to welcome Texas 13 double 3 start the text 3 let's talk about Australia yesterday government is considering banning new migrants from living in Sydney and Melbourne the policy is designed to counter population growth in the 2 largest cities in Australia and alleviate pressure on the health care system on schools public transport and on housing and we could have a very similar conversation here about the pressure on the vital services I mean people if they come to the U.K. Tend to migrate towards London and the south east but he's an infringement of someone's rights if we. Say you're more than welcome to come to U.K. To live work love and the what you want to do but we will tell you where you can live more importantly where you can't live. This helpful housing crisis for example money Maurice a senior research fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research money good afternoon to you. Welcome to the program could this sort of difficult it would be good to help our housing crisis. I think there are ways in which to scheme could work not just to reduce prices in. Areas where. You know large populations they could also help to. Kind of re. Other parts of the country where they are actually are. Depopulation she's ill or actually you know lower public population actually you know you can actually find ways to incentivize lichens to move to parts of the country for instance northeast this. Is quite a strong Let's go to Mansell for migration to actually kind of rebalance the economy into a truck skilled migrants in other parts of the country that where there's a strong link you can see why for some people it would make sense. To some people it would be seen as rather inflammatory when the strains of a particular way of dealing with migration or immigration and it's and they have a very. Very tough. Yeah absolutely and you know there are ways in which this could be implemented which would be very concerning for true with respect to human rights and oversee you know any system the tracks people in particular areas in a very nice small areas or the kind of places very tight restrictions on visas would be concerning But you know there are ways that we can do this the more about incentivizing people to move to certain areas. And on our streets are saying you know no person coming into any reason can can come to a particular city or their home ways for instance through the current system or you can say the employer sponsored migrants and from particular areas they could for instance face sorry for sold between incentivized. Migrants to move to Arizona side of London or in the southeast because those thresholds would be low and would be easier to get sponsored to work from. Happening off the March 29th next year and now whatever follows will will will affect the country and the people of course. You can see why it makes sense on one hand but then there's this element you've got to say hang on a minute because the tie to people where they can become restrict people's movement if they want to. You already know we can't say you can't come to London it's twofold we can't. Overload the system can't cope that's where the difficulty arises . After Bret's if the government can't proceed. To restrict people can go. People and so he you know those who no longer under current law be able to come in reside here as freely as they can I suppose that there were there are ways in which you can potentially. Mitigate some of the challenges that the parts of the country will face potentially with those changes by saying well look you know we can actually. Move to different parts of the country so it's actually you know in areas where it maybe were more presses Yes there are controls there are parts of the country actually it's it's a bit easier it's a common to come and actually you know it's not about say you can't come. To buy people to move to some part of the country where they actually really do need to really do need migrants where you know where skilled migrants coming would actually they boost population boost productivity help boost the local economy. A research fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research into the views on the story of. 3 radical approach to immigration health they are very very tough. They say it says. The country with no job and expects because. To start with and yes the country should be able to take where they go then when they start keeping themselves than they can move basic economics. Get off it is Australia is correct with immigration it would never work in the U.K. As we are too weak on immigration you can text 13 double 3 Start your text 3 I have to confess part of me feels really uncomfortable with this idea from Australia the got this new plan in place to literally bang new migrants from living in Sydney and Melbourne how they legislate for that I have no idea but they do tend to work it out somehow down and so they will say to new people arriving to live work and love in Australia but you can't go to Sydney and Melbourne effectively those 2 cities the full pressure on schools public transport housing and health care. Here. You. Says a sister has trouble coming up very very shortly says. The Russia has officially started and he's going to be busy I'm afraid to look from 6 so I will go to politics to me in the studio tonight when he could time time James Jamerson lead a conservative leader of central Beth chickens a big local authority monk Shaiman from the Green Party in Luton I'm going to meet Liz hind tonight. Supporting Labor she lives with She's also the landlady of the old mill. It's arms. Very popular pub and she's been hosting regular politics debates in pub she lets customers have a right gun politics on both sides and it's going to Fascinating how it's been working well live in the studio with the 2 of the panelists will go through the week's big stories but I have a feeling that Liz is well I know she's she's quite a current. Traveling. B.B.C. 3 Counties radio. Well I'm afraid it's still looking busy only and one afternoon I'm currently thing at a little bit of a build up heading southbound just around junction and at Hemel Hempstead. 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