Download the free b.b.c. Sounds at 66 radio news podcasts. Chris I was rather kids I was going kickoff phone in this one he would talk in football in Asia and in South America and players from over that side those 2 regions playing in our leagues said if you like to join in the conversation do pick up the phone to give us a call now on 885909693800085909693 if you prefer you can send us an e-mail to top all night at b.b.c. Dot co dot u.k. . Up all night at b.b.c. Dot co dot You Ok and if you like you can stick your phone number in the e-mail and we'll call you straight back and get your net otherwise just dry your question in the mouth you can sex as well any questions or queries you go 185-058-8505 extension 8 you can tweet at b.b.c. 5 Ok so we wait for Asia calling calling. Calling out. Come into Asia. How you ave Nov and so Johnny do it in so. The boy and also how you today Very well thanks very much the bag over the side then yes yes I did did they hang out the bunting for you when you returned after your situation in their homeland they seem to have these things to think about unfortunately a bit maybe next time. Who let them know in advance you know you're coming back next time yet the legendary would seem victory is in Rio Good morning Tim very good morning how you doing very well thanks very well thank you everybody is in-situ been oversold isn't so legendary days in Rio taking care of Asian and South American football respectively and also of course talking about football as from over those regions playing in our leagues if I might start with Asia because today I heard an excellent interview a couple days ago actually sorry next interview on the football daily podcast 5 puts out and it was an interview with Rafa Benitez's who is now in China of course. And. Plying his trade there and he was talking about you know leaving you cause would cetera but what was really fascinating was what manages from Europe not least the Premier League have to contend with when they go to China. For example he mentioned the fact that every team has to have an under $23.00 Chinese player so you have to have at least 2 because of course there must always be an under $33.00 player on the pitch so if you have to substitute one you've got to replace it with a knowing one and you have to basically have 2 people in exactly the same position . Or you don't think about those commander of. What other kind of things do managers from oh they have to contend with Well there's quite a bit I mean I think I think you're right people don't really realize you know all the stuff that happens and even with the Under 20 clay situation as a rule that's been tinkered with over recent years it started out with he just had to start a match with and on the 23 player so what some coaches did. They would choose one disc player usually is a fullback I'm sort of sometimes take him after 5 minutes and that will be it. Didn't really do anybody any good to be on a Saudi embassy if they introduce a new or as you mentioned you know it's replacing with and the 23 players but I remember before it he had lost lots of big name phone coaches or Chinese. Asian cultures going there and it always said the big thing I was doing China was always take your own staff with you. It on if you go by yourself it's going to very very difficult just the culture nothing else I saw an interview with Rafa Benitez in the news in Chinese or in Chinese media and he's talking about just things like the food. You know going off and Chinese food. Especially where years in Delhi and when she's in you know one of the most international cities in China it's not so far from Beijing but. You know a does not a huge amount of light Shanghai or Beijing even going so in the south in the fuken a very difficult very different to what people used to very different to what mean Chinese food is in in maybe even in the poor the us and you see how much weight is lost since but in China in part because I want to say when I came to Korea because my day changed completely those suddenly and the wages fell off and I was skinny for the 1st time quite a long time it was great but I think just the coach even the How closely involved see if the Chinese are faced with everything and you find you know in China school was a huge project and it's all interconnected and I think just the size of it. Takes people by surprise but it must be lots and lots of things the travel all the players have it so culture that you know if you even manage to do it that you can do very very well but I think it does cause a shock to most people I think Rafa's actually embraced it as well as trying to get involved in it is China and Chinese and to and blokes in Chinese and the fans are 2nd to him as well and Tim Costello of your side you know we've talked often enough that there are very few foreign coaches plying their trade in Brazil and I imagine right across South America to set in stone what kind of things do coaches have to consider if they're coming from outside outside the South American context how differently the way they would have to approach setting up their teams in the strategy and everything they need to consider from the way they would do in Europe . Climatic conditions. Travel for a start I mean is specially if you're in some country South America is here and Brazil is a constant in itself but even some of the other countries in Peru now Peru has a lot different reasons a region's Colombia is a massive country lots of different climatic region region so there are things like altitude and there are things like extreme heat and there are a few getting a foothold a few Spanish coaches and in fact we've just had the on the verge of local version of the Europa League has just been won by a tiny club from Ecuador independent Valli who are really a phenomenon that are the big success story in South American top football in the last few years and I've gone Spanish the last you coached as a Spanish one of the Federer who want to be gallant and what I mean is he 34 you know that there are players in this in the side who are who are older than that and one of the things he has to deal with out there is altitude because they're based on the outskirts of Quito which is 2800 meters above sea level so you have to adjust your strategy to that we've got one in Brazil now who is causing a revolution and that's the Portuguese Georges who's Thankfully his press conference is on t.v. In Brazil they usually years subtitled because Portuguese from Portugal is just so different you can understand a word this science so it's subtitled I hope I'll be manages to get his message across that applies he seems to be because he's Flamingo side there in the final of the couple of it all it is a week in just over a week's time Saturday the 24th you can see that one on b.b.c. T.v. I'm happy to share with you but one of the things that he had to cope with when he arrived was people desperate for him to fail the coaching fraternity in Brazil really wanting him to fail we don't need this this foreign stuff we don't need none of that and there was there were there was a cultural center do they needed. Well I think I think we all do I never got that Pink Floyd reco quite frankly might be if you went to a private school you can think about these things in different ways I don't know who that was when he. Comes down to class in the end. When he gave out goalkeeping and became a coach he thinking that Brazil Brazilian coaches are behind the curve he brought in one assistant from France and one assistant from England and that put some no exotic joint he's still working with a French guy the English guys come back and he's is it ranges in Scotland at the moment Michael Michael Beale So there's that defensiveness from the coach from the from the local coaching fraternity you know kind of hoping that he fails and I'm from and are they going to win the Brazilian championship there was a clear. In midweek and then they think to be rightly in the goals and it's a style of attacking football that no one's seen here for a long time because a very high defensive line as you see in European football but you don't you don't see it here in the week that a 44 draw with Vasco da Gama and some of the local for eternity here really love the fact that they got held for 4 you see you see it's not all that really it's not all that really our local coaches can do a job so that's one thing that the local coach coming in that they're the foreign coach coming in me has to be aware of there will be a little bit little bit is that a 5 year in the mix out of interest does the language issue does it work both ways is it hard for Portuguese people to understand Brazilians or is it easier for them to us and I guess it's much more musical Brazilian Portuguese is that the mouth is open much more on it though the great Portuguese author of a long name begins with s. Perish the thought can't remember one now you know he's kind of a Polish solder It's almost like a Bond villain you know sort of mongoose nuts and a monkey but he's like that among. You know. He kind of even been given and he would receive impression he kind of apologized floors for his country fog he said you know and I will hold to understand I know we don't know Miles but it's how we are for enough. So they cool a reductio ad absurdum 080-859-0969 extension 3 there is a question one more question that's come in about manages coming from j. I'll try to throw in the mix in a moment or 2 but 1st let's hear from Christopher who is in Cincinnati Christopher Oh thank you for having me it's a pleasure a pleasure great to have you Cincinnati musette famous What was that famous for the car race was thinking cause in Cincinnati Indianapolis maybe you're saying you know right now close up on the end does that take place in Cincinnati now Indianapolis is just another city in another state. Of course. It happens and it was it. Well. Known so I have. To have Prince Yeah no Sure thank you. Anyway. Let's Cincinnati Could I ask you this question that was if that's what I know this is and I'm sure I don't know you did help me out so I do my head in shame was you also question good preserver. Thank you Don quickly if I if I may Congratulations to Johnny the or declaring an interest in writing a book about his beloved Blackburn Rovers. Thank you to. The welcome I look forward to reading it. So my my question the same thing has to do with fighting last night well for me last night. In the n.f.l. Cleveland was playing Pittsburgh and at the very end of the game a Cleveland player sacked the. Was this year's not Sox tackled the Pittsburgh quarterback quarterback took issue with the way the tackle happened and so they started to have a little scrum and the Cleveland defensive player took the helmets off of the Pittsburgh quarterback and hit him over the head with his own helmets. It resulted obviously an injection and probably pines and suspension and that's actually I'm sure so I'm wondering about rouse that has occurred in South America and Asia some you know people who have gone above and beyond you know just a little shy but you know maybe even you know some bonus points if you can include a story where they used they used something decides that this. Is the cause but Ok Before making jokes. Yes absolutely you know he he shook it off and he looked at the referee is like did you see what just happened and you know so and by the way you are is I know yes he's Ok we do know that it's a sacking but thank you for translating it into tackling because sometimes just like Brazilian Poti game I didn't know we didn't have a clue what you yanks talk about sometimes we can understand directly because you know when we speak our minds are much more open and it's like a song anyway. I'm trying to redeem myself from Cincinnati being in Africa. You're going to pick on someone else I don't know why you're react to Charlie Johnny you're the you know congratulations boy so do you want to start with that oh yeah oh thanks a lot of good I should say I will say that maybe this other but I was built Sibylla fillable but I don't think there are. Very concerned I was very careful. About the book shops Yeah I remember that when I write a book now now there's a variable that when our common 0 point I should say. The record market Yeah exactly. Yeah well there's a few I mean what you get specially in East Asia if you do that kind of a mass brawl you know a lot of players are black males in various martial arts. Or something. Like that it's going already. It's kicking off. Taken down and created in Japan and China can food I think is a famous one in China and he was Chinese Olympic team before the 200-2008 Beijing Olympics which of course is only one that I'm qualified for that as host day when I. Hear about a before and it play keep. Coming to why I started but a huge poor. All in the family will keep your link to the us and 7 Check out on You Tube You can see I think is what happened you get these can things like age only work if you're flying keep still ahead. Sort of years and never seen it as much kind of in the stadium but you know could see on the video and some of these players can you know all 6 feet off the floor and quite often because of domestic league game in these countries at halftime the blinking kids who are studying you know these fairs much larger than a perform you know it's these amazing things they are not 10 foot journalists and some souls and breaking glass window with their feet and this is quire a common sight in North Korea into a. New Improved gold medal. China didn't do very well. And there's a little you can exaggerate your knowledge that was made in every state and from that but usually objects to hit people with on the pitch I'm not sure but there was a famous case in South Korea about normally 20092010 or the head coach of. Talk to a team attacked his assistant with a beardless and hit him in the face quite a few times and in South Korea the grass is the old style kind of you know the barrel glasses with the handle of quite heavy stuff. And the number 2 was has not hospital but it didn't complain about it always so it went back to work as normal but as fans and media started to realize what happened and he was the head coach was for series and and it was it was so embarrassed when a few coaches in Korea in East Asia to go to Iraq and he joins we'll take his team now as head coach and assistant it's a long time to come back I think you get it he and his number 2 will be the us. That's a criminal offense Road Runner but you Tim in South America well I can't match Johnny day for expertise but I can throw a little bit of enthusiasm in there and the old days here in South American football and before kind of blanket t.v. Coverage is like the Wild West I'm going to take you back to the limited audience final Champions League equivalent 5 a night in 99 he won the only time a flamingo won it so far and they're up against a relatively small team from Chile copper cell and one of the Chilean defenders he going in for an implement He had a sharp stone in his hand and when the referee is not looking east going around attacking players with a stone can you imagine this is a final Can you imagine a final and there's a sense about going around with a stone come the last minute sort of game from the title up and the from ing a coach sends on a substitute with one instruction see that fellow with a stone lie here. Low get him down Alps this one is over these days thankfully with blanket t.v. Coverage you can't get away with stuff there's not there's a famous match in in the mid seventy's an American obviously in Brazil and year ago I went Not really no Did someone and it started off in a mass brawl no really no the left footed attacking midfielder he wasn't really known for his pace but you should have seen the speed with which he scuttled off the field and went down the tunnel I think he flew down the steps of the tunnel on his backside he was sulking to get away from a chasing pack of year ago and so Christopher you've heard both sides from Asia and South America you're offering extra points for implement some of the hands and fears but I think the entered the dragon scenario the journey de painted be beaten even with the shop stone What say you and I agree with your Darden Absolutely yes the karate chicks are absolutely basis for sure I have just seen it on You Tube in it is like that scene in Enter the Dragon where you know they've got the martial arts school training Mr Han mans there the big fight the big fight him it's like that crew something to be hope thank you for calling Chris Verne caught up anytime as well. And I promise the next time around there was Cincinnati is Adrian in Dagenham I know where the is l.h. Or not you know you are very well thanks thanks to coding so you go both the legit Dino and the Northern so with you any questions you got the happy to. Share My question is if. Australia and Australia. He never. Want to show you your lines a bit better try the it. Was clear to me sorry. Yes Last I saw he was so much of the day I'm. Playing Australia what most hearing. Yeah well as you say I mean it's last even commentators who are b.b.c. Ham Yeah he he is retired he had quite an amazing career because he played I think after he after England he played in China. Shanghai quite a time there any player in the u.s. Would and he was in New York and I went back to Australia for a while so it will globetrotting. Play I think also if he also releases children's books and there's a Tim Cahill children's book stories he was as well. So it's a huge Yeah I think so is a huge figure straining football because of course when is sort of the world game for a long long time and is he still is a leading Australian cause or it was at this not even when he got old and he became quite a base as. You know does a strong team rely too much on Tim Cahill on Aging tin pail for goals he was getting paid he wasn't playing for his clubs but often if he come in with a vital header in the last minute to know since into the World Cup yeah because he's a bit different because as I said he wants these emerging markets big clubs and change Shanghai and New York so I wanted to you know. Put us up about Arsenal you know God he's that huge country is a massive essential and also you know some tacit Korean the Premier League as well so yes they have an unusual player and you know very intelligent and you know the difference in a good it is for you to score once or would you describe him as a fox in the books I don't know about that they certainly want those players as a Rovers fan I was always happy when he wasn't playing Premier somebody who was a kind of player who would you know score against you know as a trademark celebration of punishing the corner flags and is a little bit a winner and yeah there's some cynicism astray about how he likes to Kamar always like to promote his own people and I think there's a time to play in his career were his he was sponsored by a certain company and there was some suspicion that he was using his goal celebration to reference his new sponsors and things. All it all is that interest including the little diddly little you know she'd lose a. Limb on this no now and thanks to the cool I didn't appreciate that Jack is in China you know Jack. Good mornin good morning to you could see him be a good one and yeah Ok I want to discuss I want to speak to John a and discuss the current state of the national team. So I don't know I don't know it's a start I mean the last time yeah so yes I mean I kind of China crisis. Oh yeah this is a crisis. I mean. National unity had to throw that. Seems a bit reminiscent of kind of the no vote in a way I mean. Too much pressure but expectation of a. Fair fight. And I mean you know I must say resigned after a loss to Syria which an awfully close behind the qualification but they should. Still get one of the best for groups. But. It just seems. I mean is it going aging Skordas Well I mean all the money 11 only free was on the say so no players coming through there's no a prize and all the young players coming through I may seem to. Say but laying them a claim for a national team a center kind of freezing. I mean kind of. Makes some questions kind of I should question not just to recenter round. You think. You think what you think makes you go from that it's like a foreign experience manager Oh sure I. Should I try to get lighter and Southgate someone who's. Next player a national team and understand the movement. And the 2nd question is next mostly East Asian Championships. In the Senate and Betaine which. One is a week long round robin against with China Korea South Korea Japan and Hong Kong. Yeah Jack hold hold that question I'm going to go to the news now but the great thing you know there don't go anywhere because the great thing is after the news we'll find out just how keenly Johnny was listening to you. 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My dad was nonplussed to say the least he was never really happy about the drumming until I bought him a house. Disco mills and Chris stock such the morning from 9 am loathe Sunday morning from the t.t.c. Brady is fully. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 available on the b.b.c. Sound up all night at a boy out o. 800-859-0969 extension 3 the numbers a go if you'd like to join us for this morning. We're talking football in Asia and South America players from over there playing in our legs we've got the Northern So joining. Do it and in so where else said he has you got Asian football. Cincinnati somebody shot you're trying to say to mickey out of me Mr Ball you're supposed to be producing an n.b.c. News program and how might consider he. Did map for this. Good news Mr Williams You're supposed to be stupid directing tonight but I can see. The show in my ear what can I do hundreds. 80859 or 9693 see what they've done to me and in a moment we're going to find out just whether Jodi Dude dude was taking nudes when our cool in China Jack code Jackie. Yeah good it's going to be really exciting it's going to be really exciting because we'll find out how. To live I can't wait to find out but 1st let me just say Michael has emailed to say for the purposes of the last caller Adrian in Dagenham who's asking about Team kayo Michael says he recently returned to Everton as a coach while he works towards achieving his fee for a license also this week his son signed for Everton as you think out of me wow he said she I think it is signed for Everton's youth academy as a blue I'm looking forward to seeing another kayo before his father's famous goal celebration frequently in the is to come so there you have a journey Thank you obviously we're always open to any listeners who have any updates on Any Questions have been asked that we can all know exactly what the latest is on that So Ok yeah Jonny do it in so what did Jack in China ask Well I think what he really aswell. I'm. Jack and he simply leave make sure you correct even if he doesn't if I give a go and I wrote I could go with it. Turns football national team is a big mess I mean that was told before many times bald eagle that the desperation to become a power in football and qualifying for just what would be a 2nd welcome is a huge thing. Started a nation 2nd round of Caucasian Charles involved the 1st round was 40 teams in the 2nd round and those 12 teams go through to the next stage. So of course like every team challenge sex is very seriously but more than mostly international breaks in these 4 games have had so for the international breaks in China 4 weeks logs all the leaves on hold for almost a month. To keep the players time out in training camps and the 1st 2 games they have big wins against multis and go on their 3rd and they do in the Philippines and I just lost in Syria as I mentioned the 5 points behind Syria in the group there's still the still probably will go through as well the best winners are but you know it's going to be. Gotten a stage but there's a lot of problems at the moment and instrumentation Marcello Lippi who returned to China in May their 2nd spell as head coach resigned after the loss in Syria apparently is final words were as it was our dressing when I got a look which depending on the tone of voice you say can be so a consequence I don't know but. I think it was a mistake to appoint leaping again in May 71 years old he's been criticised anyway in recent weeks for not having the energy to be the national team what you want need not watching as many games. Weekends as it should have or as you mentioned picking all players in the Asian Cup in January a chance at the order squad of 24 teams that the average age was trying to 9.2 years old and yes in m.l.s. On a say why why did you pick the oldest team as possibly you know creating a new. Generation of Chinese players and he said this that the young talents just in a low and foreign kind of balance between that he's been the driving force behind the naturalisation of certain plays in China to play for a national team you know English born players like. The Chinese mother who's playing to benefit last year and is going to Beijing play in Beijing and he's been naturalized and he was on the bench I think this week and it came on the 2nd half but more concessions being alcove some was Brazilian born players played in Chinese Superleague 456 years and he started playing for a national team and it's more players more Brazilians than Pat Lang coming through waiting for the the. Chinese than 3 naturalized and now it is gone it's uncertain what happens with this policy because as I mentioned he was. On Jan 4th behind it and it apparently it was one of his conditions for returning us for seconds but was that this would happen and I think the Chinese public has been. Quite neat about this but I think it was also it was also good you know it can change things but when results are not going so well and it's going to a lot of controversy about this going forward what happens next I mean who knows I think you have also how because Hiddink who was basically fired a month ago as head of the on the 23 team again an oldish an old elite coach when Europe was criticized for not working as hard as it should be and you know maybe not been inclusive pick players not on no or not on the ability of the player for. And I think now it's going to be debate about what kind of coal China gets Next I mean and I mean the problem and the problem is with the Chinese simply There's not many local domestic coaches involved most of the money are kind of high profile phone coaches but certainly I think he's got somebody younger a bit more hunger and energy and his eyes prove themselves fortunately is no of this no work again until March so if there's a bit of time now to you know sit back and take stock but it's a huge mess in the mentioned East Asian Cup in December usually it is this is a biennial regional competition. Of the directions of Asia so Peters and 5 regional subcompact erections Japan and South Korea don't take it very seriously because all the u.k. And bass players or busy basically chance to get the message players are now out China never had an e.p. In place anyway so it's in the strongest team but it's time that they saw this as a way to the region right he was hitting will be in charge. To prepare for hopefully for the 2020 lympics in Tokyo and qualification starts that in January but now he's gone Libby didn't want to do it so that's one bit the mess as well. So where to go from here I don't know but I know the work of coaches all sorts of desperate coffer of the world that there's a series of shorts and fixes. And a bit of patience is needed but Tony you've earned your corn may I mean that deserves a standing. Guard about it Jay do you feel that he's only going to get a standing ovation for me if he answers a follow up question that I have just thinking of what you say do you think Johnny the size of a country like China it means that the kind of old you know the old fellow without a lot of energy isn't going to work as well in China because you've got to have someone who's going to put in the air miles and just get around and really put the hard yards in getting to know the players all over the country so you think the size of the country means they'll be better to go with a young. More dynamic count yeah I think I think definitely what is specially needed as you what clubs and national federations really really want is they love people who work there work hard. And member. 10 years ago install as the sole had a fancy a Portuguese coach called I know of in Dr Who had it not decent career and he too actually sold her title placement confocal but sold it when he was contract the reason why I was his predecessor was an openness who was a Turkish coach at that until World Cup but when his didn't win a title but he stayed at the office from Dawn of the club office from Dawn and all the way through till late at night and the East Asian war corporate work ethic all of did was anger he can went on people just thought he was lazy no matter that. He got weasels and maybe hasn't been doing that so I think that you have to be seen to put in the work and the hours in. And he would be have success as a cook course in China and that and his work was working for a club that has very close connection to the national team for a time his crew is paying his salary as a national team coach. But Mr 2nd Sam It certainly hasn't worked so nothing yet the size of the country does make things very difficult but you know I think you have to perform the basic issues of you know what is most message football as you can. And yes I think you know the work of projects that people have this image of China as a country is you know it always takes a long view and. Over time slowly those got very strategic on terror thinking and it will do what it needs to get won't need to go in 10203040 years but in football it's a mess. But who knows it can happen Jack hopefully that was your question many fold thank you for calling call up any time Adrian as our Adam is in Santiago. I don't know how you know very very well thanks very much is that Santiago as in Chile. In Tate Yeah they never offer. My. Opinion about really I don't they mention life. Or not tonight it's no you know. We have talked it on up all night but yeah well field of play I'm Tim for the lack of inclusion of the c c 3 question dependence question depends I suppose you're going to say a word about evil morale is being ousted as president of Bolivia really the story is it but it is Ecuador isn't it. A little if you leave your sort of politics with your 1st answer even if he's Indianapolis. Anyway you see what show you going into out of. Yeah well it's it's actually quite difficult to begin with Will this because much about in him please here in Chile at the moment. Quite the game with a question to the Test match that is left in him believe the stakes much sight less than in Chile and at the moment Chile have scheduled that again the next weekend by the things that will fall and they raced off for a month without any games doesn't look like the season will waste any time say in Bolivia as far as I'm aware. I'm getting close to the end of the year and live at the door is true with me they might not quite show what's going to happen with the story places if. If if if I season's doesn't get finished by the I have a point I really wanted to bring up with Tim and to get his opinion on well with all the trouble here in here in Santiago I have a couple lifted spinal cord moved from Santiago to Lima. And I'm just wondering if Tim has any concern for the fall in Lima now because everything I've read about the ground has a move to a monument in Lima apparently holds 80000. And called into some people I know in Lima it's hardly ever actually held games capacity. And. Called me by only has one entrance and she's go by Sadly a lot of river Flamingo fans going to the stadium full time and it's just a little bit of a concern for me. With Lima it was completed on the highest sort of marathon a final a few months ago is now being completed at short notice. Hold a much bigger file. We have much bigger influx of coming in and. Less Safe Baby and yeah just just a few concerns maybe we can start with him hold on on that little source on Ok and they've Yeah and they're up there are far back to you because I would love to be in Chile at the moment I think and if I was that type of journalist that's where I would be because the this for me is one of the biggest stories in the world at the moment what's happening in Chile but anyway it's not just the sort American a final that was switched from Lima and moved out to India up in playing in Paris in Paraguay last Saturday is also the world on the 17 Cup which culminates in its final this Sunday between Brazil and Mexico that was originally scheduled for Peru as well and I got taken away. So why has the limited audience final ended up going to Lima really because once they decided that it couldn't happen in Santiago and they held on for as long as I could and in the end I think they were probably the decisive thing yeah the decider they're all these quite it's a complicated thing they're all these commercial contracts and also you know remember the fans are voting shelled out tickets you know airfares and so on and how tells their fame. You could have got to Santiago with a few hours drive no go go all the way to Lima it's like the Indeed yes another continent. So what were the alternatives if you keep in South America and I'm sure there were one or 2 people thinking Miami Miami Miami let's go to Miami you have kept it in South America what will turn it in well one Paraguay does Paraguay have the structure for 2 giant seams and also it's very very hot this time this time of the year. You're a boy nice one but it's far too it's far closer to Argentina that it is to Brazil. Only the Brazilian would have accepted it so in the end they kind of chose Lima I think because it's equally inconvenient for everyone you know it's pretty much equidistant between between both Rio and Bono's Artie's it's a long White's a go not not far from Miami obviously but you're right about this the stadium the money mentality system of the University Club. It's 10 years since I've been been to Peru but if you've been a few times I've never managed to get to that stadium you know why because it's so far out it's a long long and why down just one avenue the. I'd love to see. Yeah that one somewhat I would love to see it's a relatively modern stadium it looks like an impressive stadium but there was once I was calculating and the problem was it's very nice problem to have it was the show I was couldn't guarantee that I'll be back in time because it's such a long why now it's a relatively early kickoff in Peru it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon kickoff so I think that the sets of fans will have problems getting there I'm sure you know it's a big showpiece occasion my maybe there will be problems policing the avenue especially after the game but it's a showpiece occasion so you you hope nothing goes wrong it's really not ideal I don't blind go I don't blame the football authorities for the fact that Santiago wasn't viable and some people here are a look at look at Commodore comparable to South American joy for it's something that transcends football and it can and South America is unstable could happen could could it could happen anywhere and I remember the journey Confederations Cup here 2013. When that really really rocked and it's because I have that memory and I thought that when it when it happened I thought it was going to be a very positive social movement and I don't think it has turned out to be a repository of social movements I think that Chile situation is much much. Different it's because of that experience I had watching that in 20 thing that without being on the ground in Chile I'm reluctant to know what to make of it yet what to make of the direction the political direction and so on the social direction of this thing Kotite Now I understand Adam that football fans there United are in are in the vanguard of this and the fact that they united would seem to me species if it can because there have been big problems of fan violence in Chile between the big Santiago clubs is that just talk that real What's your feeling from the mood of the streets. Yes it's been pretty interesting Now 1st of all our life. Free much but 10 days into this whole movement it was it was very obvious to me that there was no way that the libbers or its final could be played in Santiago actually write a couple a couple of paces for a couple outlets in just that and a few days later it did finally get. The thing about football fans coming together. It's it's very true they might have the most. Heartwarming I'm not sure if that's the right word but prosperity the same because you call a color fans and one of us is that the chili fans and one of a psychedelic plants like i hate each other you know as you say that th issues with with time violence in the country. Sort of a decade ago I started this system of study of Socorro and to get into a stadium in Chile the state is actually quite involved. It's not particularly easy compared to. Parts of of of South America you have to have your id with you. 9 times out of 10 specially for the big guy in chief had to have your ticket online . Sorry if I really had to cut out that. Stadium violets to say all of us that the chilly for color qualify as I could tell it has all joined together in the center of Santiago why even a side street. In unison at this huge social and political movement is going on here in Chile was it was incredible. Just the other thing that you know I see it in is I don't want the football to return until. The situation is resolved in this country now that's actually quite big because the national team and I meant that the players for the national team decided I wouldn't I wouldn't play I saw. Being called off. By Adam if you don't mind do you keep us updated let's as you pointed out been remiss or not reporting that in the context of the World Football phone him but now we go and do keep up today on a weekly basis if you like great to hear from you again we always talk South American football every week in any case so feel free and thank you in Bournemouth is it Louis or Louis. Louis Louis you get asked that all the time. Strangely enough all month 1st educates our leisure Cornello you know I asked any other identification of salary are you. Ok. Because people is ask me all the time is it Dawson or is it donuts and. This would be a black These are phone. Dalton. I would never. Not do to grab these or make your mind to ground by the way a very good indeed Anyway it's all yours may you Louis. Ok yeah I was just wondering. Since only attention to know on. Brazilian ball in play is playing for that same house that I lost. Which is well as I thought a totally exclusive to people born and raised in Brazil. And to any other countries have a Russian on this shooting. Was younger. While. I'm spacious now. As I believe it was like maybe a Christian couple where. He meant the dawn. And rhythm. It's. In football terms it's just a wide hips. There's an element of marketing you know as if this is only our thing who don't tell the world cup year ago Belgian who's a fellow with most are on the field he even has a job you know I'm going up Iran or. Her. I had a trip south america couple of years ago and I actually went to the border. Feel quiet ambers. And football games going on and she saw this side and you know that I love to play with Ireland. As a song and what if you will perform only your y. . Side of the border you don't have. It if you're born the Brazilian side you do and I started her away. Now you know I think it's a little bit of marketing marketing in in this something that costs y. The hips and then the dance thing yes it's a part of of Brazilian football but you know you're a guy I've come up with one or 2 in the past in a specially go back to the early twenty's and Id be one of the 1st black star of world football more jingle than the you can shake a stick at Ok enough of this jingoism and but I do have it I do have it myself clearly don't I Tim. With it without without doubt without doubt. I wish I were a few more like a studio rock if you went in for it but we drop with you 080-859-0969 extension 3 if you like to roll with me talking football in Asia and South America pick up a virgin gives a go. Stephany's Molinari Premier League football to anyone else this c.c. Radio 5 live in a 3 o'clock Good morning this is a fortnight on 5 Live. And they need some 5 life that you could York addresses his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein for the 1st time and in sport top seed Rafa Nadal misses out on the last 4 spots at the a.t.p. 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