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This is off or not on 5 Datsun at a bio coming up in this hour of the program in a moment we'll be finding out where the U.S. Electorate when they go to votes in the midterm elections on Tuesday will be punishing the president all rewarding him for his time in office so far also how did its Elise deadly floods take its highs toll from one single family members which was then lawyers will hear from Cumbria Mountain Rescue about how people are still prepared to risk their lives in climbing the Lake District highest peak in difficult circumstances in the belief perhaps that their mobile phones will somehow get them out of a sticky situation and who would be a book could genius or River Plate friend as that she drives in Argentina meet in the biggest football tournament in South America because going to be difficult there will be Paul ping and also from Monday morning Record Club phone and if you. We've got serve the albums The Kinks a Village Green Preservation Society or wreath of Franklin's lady soul you're familiar with them do let us know if there is brilliant as they're cracked up to be the 1st will Republicans and Democrats in America making some of their final appeals to voters ahead of the midterm elections on Tuesday President chum isn't on the ballot but the vote is seen as a referendum on his presidency so far and he's been certainly had a busy schedule on the campaign trail his closing argument ahead of the vote is focusing heavily on immigration this is the president a few hours ago at a rally in Georgia. How about that caravan you want to let that carriage is who are at a and I don't think at a and so we started the $11600000000.00 another $1.00 trillion just the preserve we're building it in pieces in chunks but I want to build it all at one time in the in the meantime you saw the last week I called up the United States military when I play again the the because you look you watch marching up that's an invasion that's that that's an invasion the Democrats want to invite the caravan they have to caravan of illegal aliens to pour into our country these are the same caravan was odd that have violently overrun Mexican soldiers or police you saw this when are dealing with babies here folks you know every time I say you have some rough people in there the media says How dare you we want to see proof Well they gave you 300 names yesterday these are rough rough people in many cases. And if their land to break through our borders only larger and bigger we have emboldened these people it's not going to happen and by the way you saw how good our military they got off those planes I had so many calls and I had so many people the only look at the saw was the and you saw that barbed wire going up that barbed wire the yeahs Cerner we have Bob who are going up because you know what when that letting these people invade our country we want them to come. We want them to come in but they have to come in legally they have to come in. From the Democrats who also go all the big names out his former US President Barack Obama at a rally in Indiana they're telling us that the single most grave threat to America. Is a bunch of like. Poor impoverished broke hungry refugees a 1000 miles away. That's like that thing that's really going to threaten Gary Indiana. Is not it's not like when he more jobs here is not health care is not like how we go educate our kids. Get those guns out of the hands of our good that's not the thing. Some of the rhetoric on immigration has got he sits in anger people across the political divide but the president's message on stopping what he calls illegal aliens has been rapturously received at these rallies and remains a key issue in these elections according to voter polls that suggest historian of American political rhetoric an associate professor in the Department of Communication at Texas A and M. University is of US adults and chip we heard there from the president and from his predecessors Well he sounded a little like Malcolm exactly with that sore throat of his how different are their styles of communication. Well there are very different and thank you for having me on this yes this tramp is particularly right now using were at Eric and so he's talking about in yours you know this caravan is full of you know sort of this Trojan Horse metaphor I think for me it's just his discussion and he's using war rhetoric great he's talking about these people who are a threat to the nation. And he's trying to rally the troops to prepare them for you know I suppose what is expected to be like some kind of bloody. Confrontation. Barack Obama does and in the clip that you had and he's absolutely diminishing You know the threat he's trying to mock it a little bit and just sort of say that there's a lot of other things that we should be worried about as a nation and this is in fact not a threat at all a giving you know given that the backdrop to all of this is the midterms how will the war rhetoric play out among voters if the president sees a means as a battle surely he's using the correct threats or Rick to go into battle where is the Democrats don't quite see the battle that they might be walking into. Yesterday It's an interesting metaphor I mean so in a sense Trump is using it literally right he's trying to prepare the minds of Americans for this war against this caravan. But on the other hand it's if you think. Of it as a who're that you're not really giving students and something to do you write they can be loyal foot soldiers I suppose but there's no you know the Republicans aren't all going to stream down to the worker and do that straight so that one thing that they can do I guess is is go to support Republicans but you know it's not exactly the outcome that you would you would you would get from a real war rhetoric and I'm sorry it's a no but a metaphor just one more question. It is a bit of a labor of love I suppose if if it is if Americans do go vote or when they do go vote on Tuesday will that caravan down there coming up from Mexico be a battle line for them is that what they will go out to vote on on. You know I don't I don't think so I think the people who are likely to vote Republican are likely to see the caravan through the perspective that Trump has provided for them and I think that people who are not likely to vote Republican I don't think they're going to be motivated by the caravan and there's then quite a bit of debunking of state chairmen and narratives in this you know we're rhetoric we've seen from Trump and they're public in party you know for as long as it's been going on last few weeks in particularly within the context of. You know the synagogue shooting and the pipe bombs and the other sort of things that are indicating real violence you know between the parties in this country I think people are a little sensitive to being manipulated by word rhetoric right now clearly both of the presidents as we heard them speak that are speaking to the initiated so it's not like when the election campaign was going where you had the odd voice of dissent a trump rally you know airing that now you your speaking to people so it is a kind of a somewhat rhetorical speeches different from both parties is what I'm saying has it come to stay now where both representatives of both party parties are literally speaking to their their interest groups and they're playing the way that they're speaking is you know with a nod and a wink to that interest group Bravo to broader America who we know will be divided on these issues. Yeah I think that's absolutely right both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party tend to specially in midterms where where it's usually just the party faithful do turn out to vote and so both of them. Are trying to rally their side they're trying to get turned out to be as high as it can be and typically of course midterm elections have a much lower turnout but what we're seeing so far is that there has been a huge increase in early voting and so we'll see what happens on Tuesday and how that translates into totals but there's you know 300 percent increase in some states it's just really dense phenomenal and I think that that's a reflection of how polarized these times are people are really energized to vote I don't ask you I don't know if this analogy will work on you Professor but it will work for our audience believe me a do you guys eat Marmite. We do not. Know what is more moderate I believe I do you you could go ahead and explain it will be Australians call it Vegemite it's a yeast extract you either love it or you hate it I mean genuinely You either love it or you hate it hated it for 50 years of my life and then somebody told me a week ago how to try and loved it ever since you know I've gone from one to one exchange to the other and I wonder which of those 2 presidents is the most Marmite for Americans is where you see where I was going Those were you not give me that in these professor who says and means. He said President Obama or President Trump. Well so President Trump has never had more than a. 45 percent approval rating. So he he he is has has never really appealed across the spectrum of the American population he has not really lost his approval though it's interesting I mean it hovers in this very narrow range between about 38 percent and 40 fifth's. 442 you should wear as Barack Obama has gone up and up and up in his approval and of course X. Presidents didn't do that but when he was elected he had as a nominal a high approval rating. And and there was quite a bit dense disappointment I think and backlash that sort of lowered that rating for him but and yeah he's definitely been able to and tracked them are my haters try and win. In a way that Trump never has been able to hear. And of course Mr Trump would beg to differ with you in terms of his approval rating you know we know that he sees things slightly different not least the crowds are easy no Gration on the streets of Washington and he's very keen isn't it he's very Cain that we know just how many people had said out to to support him it's a perpetual consent of President shop this size of these crowds and how the media report them this crowd goes way way way back into the field this is incredible were there says incredible and I really wish some of the fake news media would show the crowd speakers you know in the audience the other John or John Edwards gave a speech today. In the front of the. Square. Of they have never been crowds like this just so you understand in the history of of politics you know that crowds like this was a midterm election season in the professor I do try to warn you that he would differ. With different opinions from what he thinks. But he still you know would like him or hate him love him or hate him he does draw out crowds not maybe on the level of you. The rock star Brock Obama did both support a time but he does draw the crowds and the crowds despite everything else to me to say is they are totally besotted by how can we explain that halfway through his presidency he added a straight suit to Trump actually says that line at every single rally has done so for since 2015 and I know I've listened to them all many times and the media do show the crowd but Trump loves that line so let me just explain a little bit and tell that it's an ad populum appeal so it's an appeal to you know his popularity but it's also an appeal to the wisdom of the crowd and part of what Trump is doing is he's been taking advantage of polarizing rhetoric so us versus them and whenever he makes this appeal to the wisdom of his crowd they love it they love to hear how great they are how big they are how strong they are how many people are waiting out there and they love the polarizing appeal Well we know how great we are and we're all here but the media we hate them and they won't ever tell the truth about us and how great we are and that we're the real true Americans and that you know we're going to make the country great again and all of that stuff so it's absolutely steeped in this color izing ad populum appeal and it's one of his signature moves but you're right I mean he does get these huge crowds rally after rally and he oversells the crowd by you know a factor of 3 or 4 so he's always get people waiting outside. And the people who are there wait you know a day ahead of time they show up and it's their political Tristan's they love it they have a great time at his Thank they love the chance they love the protesters they love the whole spectacle of it. There is foot soldiers essentially And given that how much support conveyed pull out on Tuesday are you professor of political rhetoric but I've got saucy Professor Yeah what about the letter to the kid to cool when we were not. You know I think that it's probably too close to call I think it's really going to depend on turnout where we're expecting some rain throughout the country and so that tends to depress turnout and fortunately so we'll just have to see it really is close and Charles doing all that he can I mean the rallies are a great venue for him he can continue to whip up his base and they're amplified by media and so his message carries throughout the nation and you know so it's much cheaper than political advertising to kids who join us for political rhetoric phoniness some porter of I'm sure a listers would love that show it sure is love it we'd love you to join us hopefully will be able to fix that up thank you very much for tonight my pleasure thank you Dr Jenn Michiru there's the historian of American political rhetoric and so here professor in the Department of Communication at Texas A and M. University and you can hear why I voted to join us again we'd have a lot of fun I feel if we did a political rhetoric some point or other low in serious news 12 people including 9 people from one family have died in floods and landslides caused by trench will rain around the city of below on the island of Sicily Italian authorities say that in total $29.00 people have lost their lives after a week of fierce storms across the Italian peninsula and you vote joins us from Rome now she started by telling me about the 9 people were killed from that same family yes that tragedy unfolded yesterday in the polyamory district and Sicily the extended members of the Stanly were in the whole state holiday food they were gathered together in their country house and the house was built too close to the river prosecutors have now established that indeed in order to be demolished and the owners had appealed they were renting the house and wired. Just came up in a matter of minutes and began in a day home apparently so quickly that the people who were inside could not get out unfortunately 9 people die including 3 children ages 13 and think 152 people survived. A fire this doctor who clung to a tree outside but it is absolutely he's given an interview saying you know I lost everything why did they read to us in a place that was so susceptible to flooding and he lost his children his wife his parents and his brother and sister so absolute tragedy again unfortunately one that could have been avoided if indeed it's even as you tell me now to be shocked by the normative this and. The survivors going through having lost his entire family or how quickly do these floods take took hold the midst of so they can everybody by surprise even though this house as you say was by the river but nevertheless the muscle cars so quickly there's no way I was going to say yes or the other there were other deaths in the playroom district as well for the same reason just very very you know a flash flood situation now this is these 9 this family of mine it's only the latest in the last 70 years we've had about 30 people die in middle ages and a devastating week which began with high winds and a lot of people dying as a result of trees falling flying objects and then toward the latter half of this week as gradually become landslides swollen rivers so a variety of different weather conditions causing all these deaths which began you may have seen the pictures or your listeners may have seen pictures from vets when a lot of tourists being being stranded. But no particular at deaths in Venice but around the mountainous areas Alou Korea and Trentino Beneteau a lot of lives were lost and acres and acres of forest land have just been you know planted down there looking at do this disaster and declarations in multiple regions in Italy from the north the very top of the very tail so it's it's been a very very hard week for Italy and they're going to have to find millions in emergency disaster relief at a time when as you know it's an economy is in shambles and they're struggling with deficit spending already is this kind of pay for roads unusual. It is unusual it's not uncommon to see a big storm sweeping across the northern part of the peninsula or or sort of truckle like hurricane type weather to hit the southern part of the human soul but a storm like this sustained and multiple days of wind and rain that effects everywhere from the Alps away to Sicily is unusual is unusual and it has been sustained bad weather for at least 7 days now we have a sense of how many people have been directly or indirectly impacted by these floods Well obviously the death toll is at 38 but beyond that there have been hundreds injured and the damage to property is immense but still some communities cut off from electrical there'd been some communities in the dollar mice in the mountains that have for one week been cut off from road access cut off from electrical and you know any sort of modern utilities so they are still struggling up in the north thousands of people I would say are still indirectly affected and trying to get their normal lives back to normalcy to they were. Had the prime minister just had a contest flying surveying the damage and in Sicily while the Interior Minister Matteo Salvini was in the north in Trentino and in the doorway it's speaking with survivors and surveying the damage in the north so you had 5 to talk leaders from a new populist government you know both ends of Italy you know taking a look at the damage and trying to respond I have to say that the government's response has been robust It has been deployed $6000.00 firefighters have been working around the clock since the 1st days of the bad weather but obviously Mother Nature and it is unpredictable and and this was an unfortunate tragedy at the very end of this wave of bad weather this of the family dying in Palermo and as I said they had declared this. An abuse of construction they had already been demolished in 2008 and the one who said peel that and of course it was kind of the courts and there was demolished in that was rented to this poor family which kids now been destroyed as unpredictable as Mother Nature is do you know what the weather prognosis will be as a as the weather to more of this likely unfortunately there is more bad weather in the forecast and it's very warm here it's warm southerly wind and usually warm just rains and high and so trouble like weather sure ako type wind usual and unfortunately it's a state and said to continue it for at least 2 more days send your vote no you probably think this is balmy but look just keep this in mind for the next stop who are going to be talked about after the news and sport OK the great Nigerian musician for the cootie when I saw him a brick stick out to be many years ago he. 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United side to the playoffs the decisions been made for England's $53.00 goal record score at the age of $33.00 to be given this Wembley international farewell against the United States and the match will benefit Rooney's own charitable foundation in the Scottish Premiership Aberdeen defeated Kilmarnock 21 at Rugby Park Leeds moved back to the top of the championship with a 210 way win at Wigan and ACIL continued their perfect start of the women Super League season with a 31 win over Birmingham. Now England's Rugby League side have sealed victory in that 3 match series against New Zealand with a game to spare That's after 20 points to 14 victory at Anfield Tommy Maken since scored a hat trick with the help of the hull fullback Jake Connor. 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Across the U.K. This is B.B.C. 5 Live up all night with dogs and by they say Chani temple an organization that has in the past tried to get a statue of the date back permit placed outside the state capital in Little Rock Arkansas has taken issue with a new show on the streaming service Netflix the champ will complains that a statue that appears in the chilling adventures of Sabrina mimics the design of their 7 and a half foot tall effigy of the goat headed day 80 and they have a copyrighted design is what they claim were lily dancing has been looking into this for Rolling Stone magazine lately 1st of all when did the Satan it temple realize that these chilling adventures may have copied their statue so after the 1st episode aired I guess they saw the icon used on the show and are saying that it's strikingly similar to their copyrighted design as opposed to other fair use images of. I.C. And which walking about the chilling adventures of Sabrina The Teenage Witch Oh yes Netflix is new show that is I guess kind of a prequel to Sabrina The Teenage Witch the popular T.V. Show from the ninety's stars Ken and Shipka And when you put them side by side can you in the words of the great Nigerian artist Fela Kuti tell which is which. You know I'm not the expert I think to determine whether they're exactly the same you know they definitely they look similar but they also both look similar to other images so I don't know exactly what the precise details are that the temple are saying makes their design and not a similar one that's that's for them to work out and confusingly for a cult schooled the poor themselves the say tannic temple they complaining about the weights used in the shoes Yeah well the satanic temple was you know a non They believe in a non supernatural idea of Satan you know and trying to create a modern image of Satanism that's just connected from ideas of human sacrifice and all of this dark negative stuff that I guess the show is associating this icon with so they want to disassociate from that yeah they want to disassociate you know I'm coaching them here from these shows utilization of the bathroom a stat sheet to represent an evil kind of ballistic cult Pinsent a perception full season stated we've Satanism even in modern times. Yeah see can you see where they're coming from. Yeah I mean I understand they're trying to make a distinction between their organization which is. Humanist organization and they have a set of ethical beliefs and they get involved in a lot of social protests you know but they are not sacrificing babies in their basements and so they don't want this imagery used in ways that makes it look like that kind of cartoon version of Satanism but really it is is Sabrina The Teenage waged. Does it utilize that kind of. A tool in because it's very much unlike the Sabrina The Teenage Witch that I remember evolved but this is a new version is you know it is there will sorts of. Occult practices going on in Sabrina the Teenage. I guess you know it's kind of a more fantastical idea and portrayal of witchcraft and Satan and the dark lord I think they call it they use that phrase on the show what sheen of the satanic temple is trying to move away from right as a bin responds from the Sabrina the filmmakers to know enough like says doesn't have a comment on it at this point because no official lawsuit has been filed so far the satanic temple has just sent a letter to them demanding his glee please don't use our image take it out of the advertising. And I think they're hoping that Netflix will just go along and remove the image and it won't have to escalate to actual litigation but since it hasn't yet Netflix has not officially responded or at least hadn't as of Thursday was the last I checked Sabrina The Teenage Witch used to be a cuddly comedy did yes. It could be comedy could this be a misunderstanding could it become incident. I you know who knows I think there are lots of different versions of the imagery of bafflement and I have no idea what source material Netflix used or Netflix or Warner Brothers used to design the one used on the show so you know I can't speak to where they got that or if it was intentionally similar or or you know what Sabrina had millions of fans the old series and I imagine the new one does as well how many photos do the satanic temple have in comparison. That's a good question I don't actually know their membership numbers would have to check it I would have to look into it you could see hands you could start. Now many could imagine I don't know I to be interesting to find out in this respect because if it is causing offense imagine the offense is perhaps not as why does the lack of offense amongst Sabrina fans sure but you know offending a small group of people based on their religious beliefs is still important to consider I would say it's very constitution in the United States and yes I've forgot about that and that's a good point to make really appreciate that thank you very much and well done I ought to quit as well thanks thanks so much for having me Lee dance together he wrote the article about this for Rolling Stone magazine and you did get the reference with for the key to you know on the balance of things I suppose it was worth throwing that one in which is which are Argentina's biggest football the rivals Booker Jr and River Plate are going to face off in a historic company but 2 tours for and later this month you see a haze in the camp to burn the series and when we spoke out as to how excited people there are by this match off between the 2 great rivals of Argentina extremely excited I don't think I can go to 2 words but everyone is the country and especially this year want to say it is completely paralyzed after both teams made it to the final of the cup by the way that load is the most important competition in the continent and it's a level of excitement that I don't know I don't think it can be compared to any other rivalry you know in the sports world but basically both teams made it to the final It's the 1st time ever that they're going to play each other at this stage of the cup by the what about is it of course they played each other several times in their 1st official official match in $1013.00 these matches have now become. To be known as the super classic was the super classics but these matches in particular are going to be historical and they're going to take place in November 10th and number November 24th here in one a sadist which means the city's going to be completely paralyzed the 1st match is going to take place in the book a stadium and then the 2nd match is going to take place at stadium and when you see paralyzed with the streets be empty Littlefield and people. Well there will be filler people near the stadiums but during the matches up probably be completely empty but this is super interesting because the original dates were supposed to be a week later but that would have matched the same dates as the G 20 where the most important presidents of the world are coming to want to say it is and so the committee was decided to move at the matches a week earlier in order not cause and security disruptions during the G 20 so that the level at which the government and they're going to source of this matches are expected to see the city completely shoke they're preparing a huge security presence during those days in the city but at the fans are super excited to say the least studies have shown that there are risks to strokes are 4 times higher during these so pretty as it goes and probably even higher this time because it's the 1st time that the match has been so important. But to give you an idea I spoke to some fans as them what these men today and this is what they told me porn Argentinian guy called ball is everything for a football fan when the couple you've got a body everything for a ball got fun when a river in the final it's everything it's absolutely in thing nowadays Argentina and spar life for this moment and every meeting. In the workplace everyone is talking about this moment and they're fighting against each other to see who's going to win for me to superclass you Greece is the most important much we we have ever played we will ever play 120 years of history for. We never play as much as the one he's the most important to lament the most important match and the most important right don't know how we live in Argentina it will be very hard for the one who says. It's going to be the best year and the best years for the many for the team who wins. It is good for you there's going to be hard because of this rivalry is going to be very very high for whichever team loses but we know do we lose here that only one team can win the Copa Liberty's Duras who is likely to be we do you see in this rivalry you fall. Into the other they do they do most most are their seed they're on one side or the other I. Personally sit on the busy side my dad was a fan so that's why I buy the facto as a river fan but I have friends on both sides and this is the most dramatic part is that whoever wins like the US in the recording set will have bragging rights for the rest of their lives probably And whoever loses it's going to be a very very hard loss we don't know there's both teams are. Very good shape for the matches so there's not a very likely winner loser yet but it's definitely going to be hard and fortunately there's quite a lot of violence to be expected so the other interesting thing is that since 2013 there haven't been any away fans allowed in stadiums across Argentina because that happened after those fan which is another football team here was shot and killed by a policeman before an away match at another club and in 2015 this was a classic of it seemed a bit on Boko was suspended early after 4 river players were sprayed with tear gas by a book of fun as a marriage from the tunnel for the 2nd half so that's how passionate and how personal the fans over here on Boca take these games. And the president of our country he was the president of the book. For more than a decade he came out saying that she would like to have away fans for these 2 matches he said that he things are going for mature enough to have. Removed for these matches but everyone of course. Isn't agreeing with him because they know that if that happens if away fans are allowed into these matches then the likelihood of violence will be much higher. Yeah dig America don't know this is next book. Player is it gets right so we know where he's his loyalty stands there you know well known players have come out on one side or the other yeah so they think Boca has the most well known players Davis of course from Boca. By let them a whole was very well known and very good of hearing I didn't you know that was also I woke up there I personally don't know a big player that would be known internationally so Boca has all the big names and obviously because our president also was also the President Obama that gives the team also much more recognition around the world we will see you will be have very very emotional 2 dates here in Argentina. They show these matches over have we've got we will see them one way or another but we great to see them on you know to rest to television as well OK let's put that to one side but we will of course return to that conversation the next time I speak to you not least if river play Clue is. Woof woof in we feel your pain. It is a new series to a year now since the disappearance of the A R A San Juan the submarine. What do we know that soon isn't being found does it know it still hasn't been found unfortunately and one year after this it brings we we really don't know much so in November 15 marks the one year anniversary of that is the parents of this one submarine which as you probably remember shook Argentina on the whole world this summer and was carrying 44 crew members when he went missing but they were on here and the search that followed was. And in search to look for this crew members hoping that they will still be alive there were almost 4000 people involved in the search 28 vessels 9 airplanes 18 countries sending their support to Argentina but until the day we still don't know what exactly happened to the summary or were the remains are the most likely scenario is that there was an implosion caused by a moat function in the summary but where the search stands right now is that the government has hired an American company called Ocean infinity to lead the search operation will take place until April of next year and the company is required to at least search for 60 days in the seas and it will only be paid their great $7500000.00 if it finds the submarine or at least finds where it could have end it and on the other hand family members of cores are still demand in the government to continue searching there's a group of about 20 to 10 family members that are still in mother that which is the city where the Navy base is based and they go to the base every morning every single morning to wait for any updates the the Navy base might have organized several protests in the past few months in about a one a sadist demanding for updates saying that it's inconceivable that after one year there haven't been any findings so of course for them it's been extremely hard and actually for the family members are also on board of these ships run by ocean infinity help in the search for their loved ones who want clearly merge with the families who've been through the last I'm presuming Vo that. Of the families now except their loved ones are not to live near. Is. I don't know I mean it might seem like. Stupid question why is it. For all those family members in the submarine be located to the. Well I think they said this several times but it's to them you with clothes this. Cycle right you know they they want to know where they are they want to bring their bodies back hopefully and give them the burying and the memorial that they deserve and I think that's why for them it's so important if they never find where the summary is or were the bodies of their loved ones are it's a cycle that's never going to be closed so I think for them that's why they're so that's why it's so important that's why they're still so persistent That's why they still go every morning to to the Naval Navy base to hear for these subjects. But of course it's a hard search after you know all these countries giving their help some of the best . Best machines and best technology looking for this summary nothing after a year I think it's going to be hard to find anything and of course for the government it's extremely costly. In February they had and I was 98000000 pesos which is that about 2000000 pounds reward for anyone who could provide useful information on where the summary is but they race recently revoked that we were because obviously given they can on the crisis here in Argentina that caused would be it would have been a very huge cost for the government right now how do we. Commemorate Armistice Day . So it's interesting because for most Arjun's eyes the date doesn't have as much of the press and as you know a scene other countries as in it probably has in Britain because Argentina was a neutral nation during the war one but what's interesting is that we do have a very important German and British legacy and there is this cemetery in want to say it is which is one of the most important 7 in the country that has one British $70.00 and $1.00 German cemetery and they're the invited by wall and what's happening next Sunday which marks a century on from the end of the World War One is that they're gonna. Demolish is. Going to open up a newly constructed gate you know gesture offer a consolation between that's a countries so it's going to be a very emotional day for the German and British communities here in Argentina both ambassadors are expected to participate of this ceremony but of course it's going to take place one day after the 1st match between but I'm OK so it's probably not going to be as emotional as the day before. 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Are once again probably going to be proven wrong I think that polling is kind of crazy in this country I think that we're going to be really surprised by whatever the results are and it's just it's going to be really an interesting day and night and then probably a couple days after a vague because the race for the U.S. Houses so you know could end up being so close that the seats out in California and 7 California around the area around Disneyland could end up being pivotal and we won't know the actual results of those California takes its time counting votes and so it could be a couple days after Tuesday before we know exactly what happened there and you haven't even mentioned the swimming candidates to you on afraid to show I don't know. Where I don't have some wonderful We've had some wonderful ads featuring these bad ass women those year we've done a couple stories about our favorite ads and the ones that are really been so compelling to us and these bad ass women have decided that you know if Hillary and the pantsuit in trying to look like a female version of a man just isn't cutting it anymore and women are determined to be themselves and that means showing themselves like Katie Hill showing herself climbing a mountain straight up and using drone footage to show how tough she is orange a Hager who has shown her her. Ascension through being a helicopter pilot and being shot down and having to go into PA and learning how to you know go into politics and using or tattoos to cover the scars I mean you know there are some really really interesting and test women who are on the ballot and that's always been sort of a problem for women is how to how to show that they're tough enough to to lead and yet you know bridge that gap with. Being true you know to strong of a woman so it's you know women have kind of embraced their inner strength and the bad asses are on a ballot measure that's fascinating I'd say that is a fascinating perspective of it and do the bad ass women and I've got sauces given the last year of me to be on that since President Trump since the election campaign and indeed all the charges against him all the bad ass women on the Republican side generally are on the Democratic side. Most of them are on the Democratic side but you know if I can make Sally in Arizona who's running for Senate she was one of the 1st women combat pilots and she's she's a draft pick yourself so. You know I was just women sort of across spectrum not sure we normally would use words like that but it's in American Samoa so we'll allow that and. And given the way you're breaking the rules by me we're always breaking the rules I was thinking about you know me I was thinking of the United States you know I mean people have to rule you know you seceded from the Federation would be you know the king that we want to go into that right now and obviously as we were you've got to ask me as well say well wait until Tuesday or Wednesday to see if the bad as Kick-Ass. That's right back our daily some 1st as always Kelly said USA Today asked for news. 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