Politics star don't really have a view on it plus the people decide how to dress b.b.c. Political world come on get your yourself on that's right this week in politics and . You're listening to politics until it takes until it takes and chill politics politics in show on the b.b.c. . Yes good evening that's us on band voice and it's a bit of a treat this week because our panel of political experts are here in the studio with me usually dotted about all over the country all of the county at least and yet we have Shelley Phelps the political reporter for The Sunday Politics are these how are you getting good thank you good morning you know it was. Ok it's got to that level has met that stage in the campaign law and most our political ads to say I think today are you I'm good thanks nice to be here in Boston for once we've seen a little bit calmer because last week you were really running around I was kind and I think I've been back and forth to Canterbury and Hastings and Brighton and a 1000000 times in one week I've got a cup of coffee here so the calmness may dissipate soon yes but he said because he comes political reporter I. Say yes my 1st time in brought Well not in Brighton but yeah right. I think I've been in the studio before so very i.r.l. In real life it is a little. Spacey as that was a thing I think attack person told me I think I was joking but that means not on the internet but I'm going to adopt it anyway coming up as we say on the program we're going to be talking about the manifestation a bit more detail we're going to be talking about what it's like living in a safe seat given the big votes coming up that you're being told is massively important what happens if you vote practically might not make much of a difference but let's start with the Week that's just been I mean what has anything cut through other than the manifest I mean yes in that what's striking out for you and I suppose. Interestingly. Today what stood out is that we've also on social media that the Liberal Democrats the Labor Party in Tunbridge Wells have basically criticize the Liberal Democrats for issuing a free newspaper. To residents and they sent she said it was dishonest and I think after this week we've had a lot of conversations about transparency I thought that was quite interesting obviously the Democrats are saying that their newspapers perfectly fine they do this all the time and other parties do it too but interesting that question about what Ok to to have and what's not Ok to have to distribute around it's really interesting we are going to be talking a bit more about what happened in the i.t.v. Debate with b.b.c. Reality check later but that was such a moment when the conservatives rebranded their Twitter account pretending to be an official fact checker but yeah of over a very key point their manifesto I mean surely you've covered numerous election campaigns What does a manifesto do I mean is it about listing promises does it play a role in the campaign itself or was the point of what I said it's our party's platform for government and this is also it's a kind of a key moment in the campaign where they get their full day of media coverage and they stand up and they trumpet the policies that we tell authors that they think are most appeal to voters so it is an important moment in a campaign I mean how many people like me today were looking all a 107 pages of the Labor party's manifesto I doubt everyone but a lot people will catch the news and they're his soundbites of it but obviously there are other important factors that will affect how people cast their votes you know things like a cross you know tradition I think it was I think the last election is really interesting for me because we don't most got ourselves into a point where we thought policy didn't matter it was all about personality you know 2 reason strong and stable didn't turn out to be versus Jeremy Corbyn And actually I was speaking to the 2 we come paining Hove which was a constituency back then that they really thought they could take from the labor. The moment they said that the campaign completely turned the was the day of the manifesto that dementia tax that social care plans which got labeled them out to tax boy their opponents and by some in the press and just on the doorstep totally changed robbed them of their chance to hold on to East born as well I was told you know policy really matters people do care about what people say they're going to promise and it's a big issue in the southeast where obviously places like Worthington East where we do have above average older population complete I just wonder whether people actually read the full manifesto so you know the Lib Dems who got 96 pages Green Party 88 and he said I have over 100 do you think people actually sift through and read every word of the manifesto party looking at doing something different they say they want to enter and have sort of a contract with the British people so I think there is not going to fester is a dirty word yes I think there are a lot of the question around whether we need it in physical form now I have there is a call for the brain down by the research team here just like you know maybe just about this it this is the 3 of them so fast you've got the Greens got the Liberal Democrats you got Labor released today summarized in bullet points still. Yeah double double sided printing so it's not waste too much paper to say yes I'm on the subject of climate I just want to kind of get in the you know of the manifesto is that being released I think it's really interesting how the parties are now in a bit of an arms race over climate where they haven't really been in previous elections I think yet it's not just the Green Party they're coming out with a big climate pledges which they've been known for for years and years and years all all of the big parties and now I'm bored with this and it's interesting to see how they're going to balance that with everything else that they want to do when you hear about announcements of of housing that's been a big one today with Labor's policy on how many houses they want to build a social housing council housing the Liberal Democrats yesterday and how they're going to balance that as well with sort of climate applications and taking into account the environment and that sort of thing absolutely now manifestos are part of a game. Number one I just as you heard in the opening sequence of this program you know we are being bombarded by numbers from all the parties you know the millions the billions even the trillions in the case of how much the Green Party want to spend on on tackling climate change it is a bit of a game of number one so I've got a game of number one for you a kind of higher or lower challenge I've taken some numbers from the party's manifest marries this mean I have to leave notes away and she's saying I just I think you have to get through those notes quickly you know when you're finished I mean Ok if you're one of the network a value guy there you go so I'll give you your opening number which is the total number of G.P.'s a Tory government would promise to be in place by 2024 which 40500 say 6000 more than they currently are in the last recent number of course you know let's not even get into the difficulty that they've had in ordering their previous commitments about g.p.s. 40500 is your opening number is the number of new police offices the labor plans to recruit higher or lower than 40504 k. Yet and they're saying lower What do you reckon the conservatives at 20 have and I always have I just bring the next question sorry so I'm going. To say. All the same the same I say. And Sally I think. You're both for. 22000 and Lauren would you like to run to the next 122000 higher or lower than the number of police officers the conservatives have promised to recreate it is hire the same right as you said $20000.00 new officers and as their opponents are of course pointing out that is less than the $21000.00 officers of have left our police forces since 2010 now $20000.00 that is our number that as a kind of anchor number is that higher or lower than the total number of houses that the Lib Dems want to be built in the country each year if they bring government shelling. Lower. Yeah it was it was like it's a trick question you know everything about. You have to get into the next game so yeah 300000 is the number of houses in all sectors private and public at the Lib Dems want to be built each year if they are in office but is 300000 higher or lower than the number of new council houses that the Labor Party wants to be building each year by 2024. 300000 high or low yeah yeah 3 let's all right how do you know this is the same. Or does it have to be higher or lower has to be higher. Than lower 300000 higher labors Tanyalee and social How can you talk about. Lower or higher. Can you just run the question actually I don't know that you could let this is really nothing like what I do any far even for you. Because Labor's target is 150 Council in new homes a year so she's got the answer there straight away bonus point for having me exact figure but yes lower than 300000 a year so you're adding even if I know that's why you have it so it's competing that's what we. Know it's a bit of a game of numbers what labor are saying is that within 5 years they'll be building $150000.00 homes a year but they're not going to go to $150000.00 times in their 1st year it's body 2024 they would be building $150.00 Things like these the place is going to look for. Always look at the metrics is it social housing is it all housing and when and by when and over what period of time that will make fracture because of all of you because you're with your Twitter handles now have found a little story well I've not found a story has found a story in Hastings which I think. I really enjoyed show you don't enjoy school I think it's fair to say I was just a bit confused by some of the why is this I think I think we feel confused about quite a lot there's a lot going on right now and there's a lot of how digital and social media and Means and polls and everything is playing a part in this election and more than we've ever seen before I think so completely so basically the team of trending which is the b.b.c. Is you know the conduit of reports on what's going on in the online world they got again it's looking at how the campaigns are behaving online this election and Joe we found basically. A. Scotian a debate about some slightly questionable statistics that made their way into a live demo he said to track the progress of this survey that then went into a leaflet that was then picked up a live dam leaflet it was then picked up by Labor activists that was then turned into me and shared on Facebook by labor activists and just how that kind of online ecosystem of you know the order in which this information started is a survey and ended on Facebook and in the leaflet on the net and in the leaflet and in the picture Peter challenging the Labor candidate on a unicorn so what else can you ask for in this election campaign and just off on the main really interesting I do you do you see many in your time line yet and they like you like you may miss it so much I don't see many me I see gifts a lot what it's like you send me letters saying aren't nice a lot of gifts gifts me. And let me now I think I think of something I get could be America but it means like yeah I think I mean. Pictures there but they yeah they can be a new sort of thing with Duff The Divine United States Yeah like an eye roll I mean the really classic one is German that image of that stock photo of the happy couple . With you know the guy turning his head backwards over his head looking at an attractive woman oh yeah the way. You can make that into whatever you like you know you could make it about you know you could have it sort of you know the Labor Party is that they go from Lucianne of. Is the boyfriend and the Lib Dems are they attracted go going in the way and you know you can you can still make it mean whatever you want it to mean I've got some maims from that I've seen on Sussex political Facebook profiles the challenge is for you to do this is radio the challenge is for you to describe the and hopefully in the next week or so we're going to get somebody to Drew these memes bait. In your description I'm going to compare the real you know time limit on how long we have to describe them I don't need the time that we've got for this chat because I want to get on to I want to go on to political visits shortly so all I've got the 1st one so is there which is. A sort of. Let's go back to your place May and then it's a photo of of your place which is a diva so red bedspread with kind of heart made of roses on the middle of the Dubai and Peter Champneys face on each pillow and indeed the middle of the Dubai and this is actually being shared by Hastings and royal labor activists a full list of candidates is available on the b.b.c. Website for all the candidates tasting standing in Hastings and Roy but it seems we picked a Chinese lot that are doing these me if you look at these actually they're not being shared by very many people are not being liked in the double figures here and it really does seem to just be for activists to kind of. Well I'm not that funny. That isn't massively liked I mean you wouldn't want that on their bets presently Yes And this is one that's been shared by the Green Party in cruelly and I found that and it features the local m.p. And. Conservative candidate I should say Henry Smith as well this is from the Green Party can you describe what's going on there oh I've watched this program before tying up with Mary Kom the woman who presents it she's sitting down and there's a caption that says this one sparks joy and there's the Green candidate next to her and then below that you've got this one does not spark joy and you see that the woman that presents. Next to that and fortunately Henry Smith thing is the conservative candidate for Crawley so I get a full list of. Events from the Greek and this is from you. Know there is sparking joy in Dixons fucking joy Henry Smith not so much now some of the terrible description so the next one is a lib. That's doing the rounds and given a lot of discussions last week about let them bar charts this one's maybe slightly ironic this is for you Lauren Ok. Right so we've got 3 balls on the chart and it says the top the top time spent by labor dot dot dot. And all 3 categories at the bottom stopping breaks it tackling anti-Semitism complaining about Lib Dems bar charts and the 1st 2 don't have any hits but the 3rd one is skyrocketing time spent by Labor complaining about lib bar charts such as you by the Liberal Democrats criticizing the Labor Party is all it's all going on indeed and we should probably say as well that Jeremy Corbyn defended his record of anti semitism in the i.t.v. Debate I will no doubt continue to do so throughout the campaign and finally this are still being shared by the West Worthing young conservative group on Facebook and it's for you Shelley what's going on. Is that when you get any job when you know earning enough money. It's just someone with like they've got an empty hand I don't think they've got money and it's like put money in it somebody demanding money when you get any hope and start earning. Put it here I'll give it to Jeremy called it so this is it basically said it's an old friend of so this is one of my favorite Can't you see that makes sense. This is one of my favorite kind of me I guess to take classical like paintings from you know hundreds of years ago and this one as you say is over somebody demanding to be paid you know somebody an old sort of 18th century costume let's let's go with that demanding to be paid and then the caption is when you get any job and start earning any amount of money Jeremy Corbyn on this is apparently what Jeremy Corbin does so he's put that one out there the conservative there's no surprise here but it's interesting though isn't it I mean I know it's we find it amusing and you know it's fun to me to poke fun and make light of it but actually there is quite serious nature to these and how well they end up doing on social media for political parties and I think this election will have a big role in that really on how these memes gifts and gaffes or whatever you want to call them end up playing out I don't know if you ever see what you did was probably the oldest in the room so. And if you want to find out a little bit more about how changes to Facebook might be changing the way this online activism works go back into b.b.c. Sounds and listen to 2 weeks ago where we tackled this issue on this very program for the time being Sally Phelps Lauren Morse and yes in the use of thank you very much for being with I think you've been. Listening to politics until. Politics and. Now as we've just been saying this is manifesto week the parties making promises with their big figures attached to them plenty of figures it's number one isn't it each week through the company and we will be checking the facts behind those figures with b.b.c. Reality check but this week reality gets to have a go at checking itself because the stars of reality t.v. Will now be asking the questions this week. Star of the x. Factor 2017 checks her actual facts with the B.B.C.'s Rachel show. I'm very excited about this collab would you say between reality check and the stars of reality today I think it's important that we think about for a while to be honest I think to the most powerful voices and I can't wait to hear them both in beautiful fact checking harmony Tolley's 1st question is from the Lib Dems manifesto and about their plans on legalizing some drugs crime rates sure why my 1st question. Really. Went but I really think. So they made a kind of similar claim and $27.00 and at the time actually said $1000000000.00 which we took a look at and we thought it was sort of a reason the bullish estimate is one of those things of course cannabis is illegal so we don't know precisely we don't know precisely how much is being used now we don't know how much would be used where it should be legal use but certainly we have time that's currently illegal so that as we know people are buying it and there's no tax revenue coming from it and were it to be legal and tax you would be getting money and from so we don't necessary know for sure because of the uncertainties Eve mentioned but it's possible so that's interesting and precise number on it but it is reasonable to put something like that we think now the next question is about the Greens manifest I'm best central promise can we really going up in the right by 20. So net cop and 0 that means that the country as a whole is putting out less carbon dioxide as it's taking out of the atmosphere can we really achieve that neutrality by 2030 great you this is a really really ambitious target it's much more radical the what anyone else is promising and we have the Committee on Climate Change which is the kind of advisory body for government they provide independent advice to around what kind of legal targets should be they said I think that you know across the country across all of the economy 2050 which is the. Current target is the earliest credible date and they've talked about an earlier target as being not credible so this is a hugely stretching target on the other hand the Greens will have to come into power what they're promising is really radical and so. It's a huge amount of money it's very ambitious things like phasing out petrol diesel vehicles moving towards taxing me in daring completely reintegrating homes so it's hard to say absolutely you know this is impossible however it's extremely ambitious and a lot would have to be done to move to. And just finally right so this is a question about what happened during the leaders' debate not in the room one more question for you right you'll do it but you can I yeah fact check you. Might have a better run for our money and so what happened was the conservatives Twitter feeds they changed the name during the debate to fact check u.k. Something that you know some people viewed as potentially quite misleading. I think it's worth pointing out that they're not the 1st ever party to use the terminology of fact checking to try and give their. Essentially campaign material a feeling of its legitimacy I mean I think the fact that they changed their Twitter so that they looked like maybe they were fact checking organization is something we haven't necessarily seen before so they need to watch their backs as well potentially they might lose their Twitter verified status and all sorts of things but if you listen to this and you want to see proper fact checking done while there's of course full fact there's Fact checked out and most importantly the B.B.C.'s reality check he's right thank you very much for being with us today you're listening to politics until politics and show takes until politics on the b.b.c. . And just a reminder that if you want to send your claims that you'd like to be fact check to us politics with the next b.b.c. Now democracy people say and say they want more of it not less notwithstanding Brenda from Bristol there was a lot of it of about at the moment but what is it exactly Well politics and dusted down its philosophy for Dummies. This week got to work with the start of. What does democracy sound. Like this. Does it sound like this I propose in order to vote every British citizen must take it I can't test. Everybody is supposed to accept that democracy is great and that means something like letting the people decide stuff that affects their lives but nearly everybody skirts over the details to democracy so we let the people decide on what every single decision the country faces as a body do we decide who we want to represent us and make those decisions on our behalf and how should we decide what. Public voting a show of hands a big conversation where we come together to make the decision as a group. Often looking at different ways of making democratic decisions about things that most people just decide by themselves spoiler alert it doesn't go well in the u.k. We have a system where we pick a representative and then until the next election that representative votes how they best we don't really get much further say in terms of voting or anything like that and I'm going to. Assemble to cast. First of all we need candidates so who wants to decide what is the great. God. You want me raising is harmed by I'm happy to. In a nutshell why should we as a representative because I always forget to bring in my own. Experience experienced would be one word here and Rick to. Was your case so I have experience of catering for other people and on the wearer of your food allergies so I wouldn't do anything inappropriate it's very succinct and very. Ok it wouldn't be a general election without the blowing vitamin wants people to write that happens the writing comes from me. I'm raising funds for Richard's going to do you have doubts about you so you know yeah I'm going for a fact. I'm hoping Rubio is the retiring of the kind that it within myself rights and that would you be elected to the post of lunch by is Richard culpa. So well representative. Democratic. To go with me and try to treat this is seriously as possible as an m.p. Would see M.P.'s in their own ng so the way of truth to this is that we have both paid in 4 pounds 50 into the lunch budget and from that taxation I provided us both with the same lunch essentially so. You got a chicken bacon lettuce sandwich there for you thank you that's nice thanks very much and want to go a chicken and bacon sandwich How would you use looks a lot nicer than mine mine's like from the Rigi style but it's a chicken back and sandwiches and that's nuts. Right now it's got quite a packet of crisps. I've got some months to munch. And some. For me eat got some cattle chips Yeah it was a much nicer but I mean that's all you want isn't it but we've both got some crisps and I thought you had to round off the launching of nice little chocolate treat thank you so called it we fudge basket and I thank you and. It's not that sort of approach bars that are basic it is adjacent to a texture so it's that it's a big big if you get one. Chicken and I can sound which some crisps on a chocolate. In the same amount in the kitty. For some forms of democracy I felt I needed more people than I could find kicking around the office so last week I went along to the recruiting of radio foods any questions to help make some important decisions on behalf of their present Christmas and. This is a festive buy you toy and it is garish as they comb we're going to host a referendum now on whether Christmas and should wear this for the duration of any questions say 1st of all just raise your hand if you are against Chris Mason wearing this time. And how could you raise your hands and cheer if you are pro the tie. I think you could hear about back there now I have to inform you that was just an advisory referendum. It's up to Chris to implement its outcome. But if he respects the will of the people he will be wearing this later tonight now over the last century or so people have experimented with different kinds of voting system because yes everybody's very it should count for equal but should everybody's vote also have some sort of an effect at the ballot box even if you are on the losing side you get to see a little bit of you in the outcome we call one attempt at solving that conundrum proportional representation so if 25 percent of people voted months to Raving Loony Party 25 percent of parliamentarians in a p.r. System would be from that party at its most basic of course there are all sorts of complications a key part of Chris Mason's ritual for any questions is having a drink to kind of wet his throat while he's on the right it's very important as anybody who has been on the radio no use to stay hydrated so as you can see we've got 4 options for the drink we've got Colo we've taken the labels off even though this is Radio this is the b.b.c. Various options are available is that strawberry. Some sort of black current juice drink and the nice coffee. We're going to collate the results and the outcome is going to be proportional to which you decide say 1st of all how many people think you should have some coffee on stage Ok that looks what you say which is that about 7 percent 7 or 8 percent so you go on 7 or 8 percent about coffee. This system has its disadvantages as well as its advantages no system is perfect in the world of democracy will go for the the black current G.-String maxed how many people think that Ok that's a bit more I think maybe 15 percent said what are we on 7 plus 15 to 22 percent should be filled so. Now I'd say that's a good 35 percent in the. Sort of 5758 percent of the gotcha before which leaves I guess anybody. Ok that's about 5 percent and presumably the rest of you have abstained. Which if you could just lovely concoction upon his space there. Well then you have to keep listening to find out whether he did it by the will of the people but 1st a final difficult decision how to end this package so you the idea is that reasonable represents the people come together and just have a discussion and we reach a decision collectively at the end of it and this is what we need to reach have to end this package with the usual way of a new package how do you normally in the package not just to put the music open. Like a big if Mary Poppins thing philosophical or something do that. The jobs again have so much showing democracy over and over democracy democracy democracy democracy democracy democracy. That sound effect that. I think he should fire someone out of a cannon to end the package. For a fellow in agreement all right. I think we should reinstate. The entry. Of a very very abrupt end. There we go now once poor old Chris Mason had come off I sat down with him in a typically glamorous setting in war so we should we just on the this is right now Come on come on do you have yourself on the right. So there's a slightly surreal experience of being with the great Chris makes and on a swing he's got a glass of wine very festive by Thai still on because it won't come off I have literally been stitched up so you know here we are in the dark. And swaying if that's not the Memorial Hall Why would any questions I've got a glass of wine in hand a festive bow tie Rams neck. And your bum doing a bit well it is a little Yeah I mean. They get bigger in a lot now this is a podcast that is bringing local radio coverage of the election together they're all $39.00 of us like radio political reporters looking up to you as one of the Masters he's been beating this trade for a while no offense what should we be looking out for what can we say to some clever or what are going to be the moments of this election that we need to be looking at most closely I think the on the on the sort of the sounding clever thing my obsession is to be honest with our audience about what is no what Bill is never an excuse not to be as well informed as possible about what is happening now but obviously as a journalist you have imperfect knowledge because lots of people won't tell you candidly what is happening now or stuff perfectly reasonably in particular in politics will be conducted privately and that's perfectly sensible in terms of policy making but it means as a journalist you have a partial sense of what's going on so I kind of think we have to be more honest about what is unknowable we've just gone past the the 1st anniversary of my one and only and hopefully will never be repeated moment of moments a very scary and this one slightly well done quite well but still scary where I went on the telly and said I didn't have the foggiest about what was going to happen with. Mr Bob He might as well be right stuff because his analysis were better than mine a year on from that is thankfully on life. Plenty of the travel lives on the t.v. On the right and I actually stand still stands stuns sums up you know because we don't know what's going to happen I'm not sure that my human as a journalist you know much more to me than you working was like I mean for so many of us that was a very liberating moment because I think a lot of us are quite scared of saying when we don't know something because someone will tweet back saying ah but we pay our license face so that you do you know when you should know when you should work harder and you try harder not to see somebody as confident as you say you know right at the heart of Westminster saying that nobody can because you say buckling was I think quite liberating for us I mean I mean don't get me wrong I got plenty of those Tories say you know you're useless including Without naming names from some senior people at the b.b.c. Who basically hadn't got what I'd been trying to say you know maybe that was my failing because if it was a podcast of the audience some of the audience don't get what you're trying to say then clearly failed or maybe they didn't watch it in full for the 1st time right yeah but maybe that maybe the basic thankfully it went down it kind of went down pretty well but you know going viral I tell you what it's a frightening experience it's like having your face strapped to a rocket just blasts off in this space and you've lost control of Christmas and this has been fascinating a pleasure to be with you for an evening of any questions and having listened to the side often warm in your studio production costs while poor old lower came back shivering in a car park we've added some redress to the balance and I did something just the balance yeah I almost lost any feeling in my toes I'm a jeans or a bit white joint How about by telling out yes I think I'm going to buy something. It's you know what you know when you've got appeal you. Know if you will be on your feet I will go. I don't know. It's here at the b.b.c. We're listening to politics until the takes until the sex and child policy to politics in show on the b.b.c. . Now throughout the campaign we are catching up with all of the main parties on the doorsteps you may have already heard us with the conservatives the Greens and we've heard from the party as well today it's the Lib Dems turn to face doorstep questions from 2 directions in something we're calling not can run is that hilarious electoral pun or just an excuse by Gnarls Barkley I'll let you decide. To move the dye into the constituency. But the Liberal Democrats are hoping to hold on for a seat in the face of challenges from conservatives like the correct call it wasn't as was stated Lloyd is that mom. And he pairing from door to door in the old town. Really Come here right across the street can. You believe me listening to Stephen Noyes a get. Out of the straight. Back in the office and not the tape stuffing envelopes what the folks are doing here is their handwriting in the letters to the individual and because the Lib Dems we don't have a pot of money like the Tories do these will then be delivered by deliver as I've got to ask about 10 seconds of the speed of. Stuffing. Or you can hear a 10 person a minute. How does your home not fall right in front of people so I have to chill out when I get home I just go into a darkened room for a while but it's very satisfying to see the letters pile. Thousands tens of thousands of leaflets in the left half trouble. Now or in the Lord in a veil she. Voted off I'm a bit of a pattern and I used to race cars when I was young I loved it. Yeah I used to run a drug I remember my them hard. I persuaded to navigate. She she she had a good voice I'm hard of hearing you say. Before truth this is not a very good loud voice Oh wait you said. That I didn't. Like the secret holds I can see the flats and I can see it's like I find out just how often it comes to. What we're doing. Is mom finding a new campus Thanks I hope they don't say we use this and who's our campaign manager and sort of monitors all these things we will. Be getting a feel of how things are shifting you know is it moving against me into staying where it is or is it moving for me. So campus date or is important because it identifies your support which you can then get out in the day but also it's very important because it tells you how the election's going and you get it from the horse's back you get it you're listening to politics until. Takes into politics on the b.b.c. . Thank you to Stephen Lloyd will be across all parties throughout the election now you might notice the theme this week a lot of the voting getting in at time but what if there are parts of the country with voting might feel a bit pointless for a whole variety of reasons Well he's the b.b.c. The power of b.b.c. Local radio to take you to 3 of them but 1st regular correspondents Huxley h 7 and Theo have a little word and one on about how is it really that some seats come to be much safer than others. Right now yeah yeah. After the selection. 650 and pains each one has got I am place in the country to those and it is cool I can see choosing say love forgets to biggest number of fights in each place gets to be there and pay them to whichever party gets the biggest number of M.P.'s usually gets to be the gov bird it can be a messy and then but that's the basics if take government changes speaker can see she sees ice pick to different party till one day changes us time and they seek changes. But not every constituent sees change hands each election night only 17 changes last time that means $518.00 seats stayed at the same in my space and seats new t.v. . Last time 356 seats one by more than 10000 flights the safest saying East to include and was nearly 3 months he show I the Labor Party quarter over quarter 2000 votes more than mandamus by phone banks as always gents they own Huxley that if I may say so your recordings goes really shaping up there but anyway I digress what is it like living in one of the safety seats in England b.b.c. Radio Merseyside class Hamilton nice to people he can tell us. Hi my name's Alice Howard I'm a 22 year old Scouser from Liverpool Walton I am America I'm a 28 year old skull from for you can see it's mostly. My constituency Oh is. It's vibrant loud and confrontational I think are subjective so I would use I know most people in my local community I was was born and raised it went to a school a 10 minute walk away from me and so it feels very integrated and it has both of it's in on the football clubs in it as well isn't it kind of well fame is really not just in the community in my household it is. The only 2nd point to me moments are. Football programs and things and. So it's an attraction as well and I sleep 10 minutes from up to 10 minutes from us also is the Grand National say look if you're looking to buy property in Liverpool come to follow me but every and so knows these massive knows these sorts but we're very good that it's got a bit of everything it's got a bit of farmland it's going to the town center it's called villages it's got commuted sees where I'm from it. Is quite close to the community we are quite proud of where we're from We've got next prime minister in our town center we've Steven Gerrard consultants wonderful Paul has come from and when I was in school wasn't doing well so my school by community finished in the bottom 2 or 3 in the country the results and what the charts did was the upshot of the talk to invest in the area now they are 2 of the safest Labor seats in the country what does a safe seat mean. Means to Me a political party most of the time at a godless of the actual pay wins by a landslide so. I think I see brought that and used to win by like bugs 35037000 I know Stephen Twigg used to win by the say. It would just landslide victories and I think that regardless of whatever m.p. Columns as long as they come from the Labor Party they're probably going to win by tens of thousands of hoots even if you don't turn out to vote which you should definitely turn out to vote likely turn says 99 percent of the time. You're going to be represented by the same party and what you do not means that the people who live in in your constituency them I think people in my constituency that a little bit this in French eyes to an extent and they're a little bit of the not engage in politics that there's no one going to knock on my door this election there's no one is going to put a leaflet through my door because they know it's safe for me I'm a Labor supporter I'm a Labor voter I have been my whole life if I was a conservative or if I lived in a conservative season there was labor safe it would make me feel a little bit well and I have a can be represented of ever going to be here's what's the point in this so there's up with a bit is created and it's because of years and years and years of generations saying this is the way we do it regardless all so then we need to put the emphasis on the political parties who are in power why are our M.P.'s being placed in constituents that they weren't raised and they don't know the pains and pleasures of these communities so for example down cotton who's now my pay why isn't a knock on my door white Where is a mine and used to love having a cup of tea with Steve Rudd that I'm you know this is the reason why they become safe because they integrate themselves they were born and they were raised there and so sometimes we are also open to manipulation by massive parties of just M.P.'s who want to be elected into our seats because they know they're going to be fine I wish I would want every am paid to treat each and constituency as though it was a swing constituency and do you think the same Absolutely I think what of the reason such a safe seat in Liverpool especially in the Liberal seats are so labor is because in recent memory we we do remember what a Conservative government has done to the city so it's not a safe seat for the fact that we're apathetic to the parties or we just like the color red it's a safe seat because we don't member the pain that austerity caused in the eighty's we can see the pain that austerity is causing our in our communities. When she switched to the Lib Dems Yes Ok. He may have voted for here technically but they also voted on a labor manifesto and so then go well I still represent you but I'm going to vote with the Lib Dems on their policies after some representatives and it doesn't represent us because we dislike you it represents us because we remember that you started with the Conservatives it would remember that the conservatives of course all are funded that Liverpool City Council is beyond bare bones now to the point where it's it's negligible but it's not their fault so when you've had conversation with your friends about this election is the safe seat thing something that comes up you know what's the point in me voting Labor are going to get in anyway to an extent I think. A lot of them could not don't care but don't understand. The point but what is the point why get all sort of cultism a nice when it's going to be labeled Anyway what is the point at all and whilst it might seem like there to $7000.00 is a humongous daunting figure that changes every single generation so we can never give in to the status quo so in a safe seat never let them think it's safe. In West Sussex the mirror image invoking radiation Littlehampton the Conservatives got over 17000 votes move in then nearest rival last time in fact a seat that's always been conservative voters that feel it to him as he saw it will be success some group I headed to the village of wick to find out. How would you describe what is a place that's a pretty realize your average town stopping by just by going on with town really how would you describe this place of your rundown there's just not enough pain in the diving for the young people it's not quite a crime that goes on about. It it's like it otherwise minus the crime have you ever voted before. How do you 2323 so you know you know vote for what's the reason for that I just don't believe in politics so it's a crap in my mind but if you've got any views about one of the people in Georgia or what my spirit. Was never educated on politics are don't really have a view want to it doesn't interest me so. I mean things are not have a view on it really. Is there anything that would kind of make you want to to vote for a certain party what I mean what my see what what matters I can actually be changed by a politician legalize marijuana. Yeah yeah legalize marijuana and then and then we're done with by so you vote that would that cause you to vote. What would you like to see a politician a politician commit to doing in which. I think better more youth centers are more kind of. I guess support for you but I think they're actually closing down. One of the sense that we have to stand there I'd say it's not great when you but there's quite a lot you think kind of a young teenage liver on Tam's I think if they had more active use a better activity that they could do specially in the school holiday so that we quite get your 21st yet this part of the world is a new constituency is fairly young so it's only been around for 22 years. How many people do you think of represented it in the 22 years it's been around on his election every 45 years couldn't even tell you. It's been one person. Does it what does that mean anything to you know really honestly that's how much politics I manage a case on it. Means nothing to me. Unless nothing's going to make you want to learn are not really it's never interested me have you ever voted before. And yeah I went to last year I was hung over. About the time of all that yes I did a thing and who did you vote for if you don't mind me asking. I think one of them was with Nigel for which was one of them yeah what about the election last time do you remember who that was not the time when I had voted for the shit who's that Forrest miser because he's just taken very sick I love forests and you know and so do you know who their peers around here I'm going to give you day. I do yeah. About the party around here. Conservatives are in charge on this and this bit of the world yeah Oh Ok you learn something every day yeah and do you know how long they've been in charge for around to imagine a long times is pretty crap around there isn't it would you mean by that I still look I don't know sir how do you feel about going in and putting an x. In a particular box on the ballot paper I'll be surprised if it continues to be conservative because looking around at the high street at the. Empty shops quick you know some of the signs the deprivation some of the regeneration that is or isn't happening. The current government I don't think is working for the majority of people around here you know in small seaside towns where the job opportunities where is the stuff for the young people you know. Where is that the chance to make a better life for yourself and if you're high street is full of empty shops off licenses invite stores and that's not going to bring jobs it's not going to bring opportunity for people here so I think I would think they'd be looking for something else. So there are some people in type seats there actively want change and even if they don't as mc analysis told us amazing site some think it's important to stay involved anyway for other reasons but that ease up a fee to use it some of it in which there and you can hear some of that resignation even in places where the race is going to be pretty tight this election Workington in Cumbria is reportedly a target seat conservatives but while the posters have reportedly drawn up working to Mom to describe the tourist target vitae actual men and women in Workington been left with the impression that nobody pays much attention to them so if they feel ignored if they feel their problems that aren't being solved by politicians how to some of the young voters in working to feel about voting b.b.c. Radio cumbrous Bob. If you never heard of it is a small town of about 25000 people in West Kimberley and it was built on traditional industries like steel making and coal mining but that's gone now and that means that opportunities in the jobs market for young people and not what they want swerd I'm on my way to meet a group of young people struggling to find work and they're working with a charity called Career Youth Alliance. I am Stacy back Elaine I'm from Seascale I mean a you planning to vote with this election. And why no I don't even know it's any interest if. You think politics makes any so the food has to do things that happen in your life. Sometimes you know I am Lou 20 min and I'm from Workington. Yeah man House is a big problem it's. Especially up here in an office kind of like a police officer of mentality so it kind of gets past all of us so there isn't much . People can really do about there's no one that can go to and talk to about it it affects like how we work how we just run our life in general and it. Slows down where modern money should. And this is nothing we can do about it like because we don't have the help I mean do you think that people down in southeast England people who run the government they understand those issues I don't think the do. Pretty far away from from. I mean they only seem to come up when there's a problem like or we've been flooded out again so they come up and. Show and Tell about everything but. They don't do anything. The country appear is really underfunded you just look at the State of the roads and forget about it because we're all the way on the west side we're on the back burner we're not really important I'm kind of you and I'm from Cle in the Us Are you planning to vote this election I think so but I haven't like completely made up my mind yet just because I'm still figuring out different things from the party what's it like trying to get a job and trying to have a career and star career in this part of the world it's really difficult a lot of places that finding people for new jobs they do usually go for people that have came from bigger places because I've got more experience because there isn't that much opportunities for result here we don't see new ones we are kind of like wow they're arguing again and. So it seems like we don't see them on t.v. Or in fact they like their show we're warned over arguing I mean what in the morning they argue against then and the ones we want into power and they look like they're arguing. So you would see on the street you're in the moment you were especially when they know the one to me and I just wonder like do you think that people down there in the south east of England really sort of know anything about. This part of the world and the issues here. I feel like they know a lot less than they say that they know they don't come down and experience it as much as I think I'd like them to. I think social media although it's helping spread awareness about each party is I think it's also spread in a lot of that isn't true about the people that you vote for when really should be vote in fall you know that policies cannot just as one would doesn't come up at all which is Braggs it which is obviously some of the parts are going on about is there anyone here who actually cares about Briggs is a big issue you know we voted but democracy is always a constant change in force so whenever there past and through you know Parliament they've got more than one vote on it they always do 2 to 3 votes on it. Because they're because they're constantly changing their minds so. We've changed our minds a lot of people have changed their minds on how they feel about. I think they're just dragging out now the majority of people would leave so I don't see why we haven't left yet Thompson from work and. Actually don't. I don't really pay much attention to politics. In any appliance or votes are not part of the problem with. Just not interested. I do agree with. The man the whole thing is everywhere and doesn't address a lot more attention needs to be brought to it should people go out and cast their vote and use that power to try and change things yeah they definitely should vote them in the amount payable the don't vote on election could actually sway whether or not somebody wins or loses I mean even if even if you're voting for the smaller political parties which it may seem like a wasted vote there but there are people that don't vote anyway they could put the small parties on the table and give them somewhere or give them a leg to stand on our You could instead of having a. Coalition government a party could just take out take their entire house you know with the team of people that haven't voted before so it seems it seems like something important to anybody should do. Thanks to Larry and the other fighters there in Workington on to b.b.c. 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