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That's been euphoric scenes overnight in Zimbabwe after Robert Mugabe's resignation as president he was in power for 37 years our correspondent Ben Brown is in the capital Harare for the younger people of this country they've never lived under any other kind of leader they've always lived under his increasing make other brutal dictatorship and not only the political repression but the economic chaos it's been destroyed economically it's on its knees and somehow now people hope and pray it's a new era a new dawn for Zimbabwe his resignation that was greeted with cheers in Parliament which was starting impeachment proceedings against him among those celebrating was Peter free a white farmer who was forced to abandon his farm and Mr Mugabe's moves to distribute land to block Zimbabweans were just worried about obviously what's going to happen next his trusted left tenants are the ones that carried out his business for him and they will be the ones in power in the future and it's a question of of what happens in that transition whether we get to a place where there are free and fair election. He stepped in a week ago following Mr Mugabe's decision to sack the vice president and the cement He's expected to return to Zimbabwe to be sworn in as president later this week. David Cassidy has died he was 67 he was admitted to a hospital in Florida last week with Martin multiple organ failure a correspondent is Peterborough he had been ill for quite a long time in fact it was earlier this year that he announced that he was essentially retiring he was ending his 50 years in the business he'd been suffering from memory loss he had dementia and arthritis which he talked about the time that actually made it very difficult he said for him to perform who has admitted covering up a security breach last year that affected $57000000.00 riders and drivers the company paid the hackers $75000.00 pounds to delete data including e-mail addresses mobile numbers and the license details of drivers the chancellor Philip Hammond says who used today's budget to invest to secure a bright future for Britain he says the government will commit to supporting families struggling with the cost of living has a political correspondent Ben right on the Andrew Marr Show on Sunday there was a restatement of the target the government has wanting to build $300000.00 new homes a year but only nudges and winks about how they might actually try and get their possible cut to stamp duty for 1st time buyers there was talk from the chancellor about intervening to get money to smaller house builders Labor's urging him to call time on a stereotype and boost public services they Argentine Navy says it fears oxygen is running out on one of its submarines which has been missing in the southern Atlantic for nearly a week $44.00 people are on board and c.b.s. Has sacked one of America's best known presenters Charlie Rose after he was accused of sexually harassing 8 women the allegations appeared in The Washington Post. That's the news has this Bush level manager you can club says he has no problem with the mentality of his players suffer they threw away a 3 goal lead in the 1st half to draw 33 with survey in the Champions League they now need to avoid defeat when they have sponsored Moscow to make it to the last 16 top them in Manchester City were already through they've ensured they topped that group's Spurs came from behind to win 2 want to Dortmund while city the final one nil their hat trick for both teams that bromelain was Sheffield United missed out on the chance to go top of the Championship after being beaten fined for by Fullam Well Chris Coleman's 1st game in charge of Sunderland ended in a $21.00 defeat at Aston Villa England captain Joe Root says the 1st Ashes Test at Brisbane's Gabba will be hostile and intimidating but that his players should not be scared of Australia will have ball bubble commentary on far flung sports an extra on coverage on the b.b.c. 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And 7 days heartthrob David Cassidy who as we have heard has died at the age of 67 some of his biggest hits. That last song I write the songs you may have thought this was a song in fact they formed by a man with a record that David Cassidy had a hit list that David Brown joins us his contributing at a sort of Rolling Stone and I think you wrote about it they had Cassaday in the 1990 s. So David there are you very good very good how do you how do you remember David Cassidy How did you meet him. I met him about yeah I guess it was about 25 years ago he was doing one of his kind of perpetual comebacks and he was putting out a new record and he was it was an interesting point his career you seem like he was in some ways coming to terms with the Partridge Family success I think that often haunted him and he was he even had his hair back and that shag haircut in this in the seventy's. I mean for a lot of people is no joy to have been a child star is it I mean it takes a lot of people a while to come through that you know I think you have Miley Cyrus and another it's not been easy. It was and I mean I think David was an example of that be careful what you wish for thing in some ways because he grew up in a showbiz family wanted to be a singer and make music and he got this great great jump you know as the star of The Partridge Family Network show about music. And he was his massive teen idol but it came with a price for him which is that it wasn't the kind of music he loved you know when I interviewed him back in the day he said you know I'm a child of the sixty's he grew up he loved Jimi Hendrix and cream and Eric Clapton and he could play guitar and that's the music you really always wanted to make and now he was kind of typecast as this you know teen idol pop star and it was something you know he grappled with that kind of kind of stereotyping as it were for the rest of his career even though people familiar songs to say I mean he was it was instant Wasn't it kind of success it was and it was overwhelming for him in so many ways and it was even a horrible incident over in the u.k. Where you know a fan of his I think with 174 girl was it was crushed to death at one of his concerts and it was it was it was a Justin Bieber type situation in the early seventy's with this guy and and I think . You know again it's it's it's what you want but at the same time you know there's always a dark side to that I mean off the pot his family could have just just headed for the hills going to be and be like Bob Newhart or somebody. From the Sea Right right but he you know he yeah he came from a showbiz family you know his father jackass and his step mom showed Jones who were you know entertainers and actors and I think it was it was just in the blood you know and so he kept trying other t.v. Shows and kept making records and did Broadway and. I mean he did keep he did keep active I mean you have to give him credit for that he kept trying to reinvent himself and and get away from that partridge family thing and I think to some degree succeeded and I think you also eventually did come to terms with the fact that hey people love i think i love you and I'll meet you half way and all those songs and he did Vegas didn't he for a long time to do ever see the biggest show I I never did see the Vegas show I think I saw him when I saw him in the ninety's he was trying to be more of a rock guy again you know which was again not an easy thing for him to convince people that he could he could make sort of you know harder rock and roll music you know it was even though it was in his blood but but people didn't want to see him in that way and it was it was a source of frustration for him and his little known fact by me. That he hung out with Alice Cooper he went through a phase there yeah after the parser's family in the seventy's he was hanging out in Hollywood and and he kind of became part of that whole whole l.a. Scene there and made you know made records with some of those people. He even wrote a song for the pop group of Asia you know so you know he he he as you said before he did the 1st version of I write the songs so he discovered that song before other people insist that he didn't have a hit with it he always had bad luck like that. I mean I always seeking out heads over him or I was saying well he did he did amazingly well and you know he was a product of his time but he was I think were shaking our heads over you know the. His age and what he suffered from to to to be to deal with dementia all these things when you're just in your sixty's is something I think that is just adds a sad layer to the whole story you know that there are parts of his life the same kind of and last few years he was really suffering that you saw he was he was forgetting lyrics on stage and all kinds of embarrassing things were starting to happen and. Now we know what it was but you know I think we're I want to hand the did have a pretty pretty long and full career for 14 Idol that doesn't always happen those people and he really did you know he was pretty well rounded as an entertainer but it's also sad too because he I mean he he struggled with his identity and dimension the sixty's which is just too soon horrible Yeah David thank you famous sure Rocketeer Thank you David broad from Rolling Stone Well of. The Mugabe resignation has been a huge topic of ours tonight as we know Vice President Imus non-God was good to succeed him and after the resignation lawmakers roared in jubilation. Makushi Mugabe as a spokesman for the opposition m.d.c. The Movement for Democratic Change based in the u.k. And he was watching the celebrations in Harare yesterday said it was bittersweet if I see all those people all my compatriots celebrating I can understand their frustrations and their celebrations that you know finally Mugabe is gone because he had become you know the personalized. Their suffering so much to him so I can understand very well why they would celebrate the way they are doing but. I really feel sorry for them because what's going to happen. I cannot anticipate anything really good coming out of it. It would appear wouldn't it I mean Mr Bernanke was Mr Mugabe's head of security so he has been very involved in this administration yes in fact in the current period he was. The justice minister for the last 4 years now as the justice minister he was also responsible for supervising the. What we call the isn't Bob way Electoral Commission military commission really which runs which runs the elections so we've had. We had a constitutional. Upgrade recently and some of the recommended. Changes which were actually made in the Constitution included changes to the Electoral Act which would make the electoral commission more independent. And allow for and. Don't allow for cheating and so on and put in a make make it really impartial. And he was the Minister for Justice and he's supposed to implement those changes in the can even if you totally So we have still got this electoral commission that's very impartial that's very partial to your party I say 10 yes yeah it was an appeal Yeah well you see we have not had this the elections in September 28th and the Zanu p.f. Say that they will be held but are you telling us that. You think that they won't be very fair there will be a level playing field that same election is the one that we have been trying so we have been trying just about everything to get them to implement the changes to their constitutions which were actually passed by the constitutional commission but they've been refusing and they woman who. Is running the commission she's called the justice micros is actually the judge she just pretends like she doesn't know what is going on and she doesn't respond to complaints we have. All kinds of complaints people being intimidated when they come to register to vote the voting system itself. There's no way that we did a Political parties either political parties can check on the computers where they actually were that they were actually clean before they started registering voters because not supposed to be implementing and you voters will but in the previous. Elections devoted throws were corrupted with names that were just made up by the by the previous electoral commission so that's so that you that's what they used to cheat so is there no chance that no chance of Zimbabwe I see how they are government of reconstruction or a government of national unity Well this is what we're hoping that I was a subduction is writing in editorial for. Each. Saying we want to hear him from his inauguration speech or whatever when he is also saying that he was under duress by Mugabe like everyone else claims all if so then is he going to implement these changes which he was supposed to have implemented as minister of justice that would be a good start so we really want to hear from him we would give him let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure was the tone of the tone by the soldiers sounded like they really wanted a national inclusive. Sort of. Way of going about things but we really don't know where that is going to depart from his. Take a little tedious I thinking. But Mugabe who tells me he is a proper Mugabe and nothing to do with the former president all of that name 20 years after the Zimbabwe became officially independent in 1980 Peterhead lard Hain was Africa minister in the Labor government and dealt with both Robert Mugabe and the man who's likely to become the new president Emerson and Gaga I asked Martin if Britain used sinful insufficiently in his opinion when Robert Mugabe's abuses of power became apparent remember Britain started from the wrong place we didn't actually support the freedom struggle in fact there were quite a lot of people that didn't including government ministers who tacitly backed in Smith's white minority regime and so when McGarvie was swept to power on that massive landslide that many of us for example myself involved in the empty opponent it struggled greeted with delights he was seen as the leader of the freedom struggle and from the time onwards when he started going bad and exterminated so many thousands of people in much of Billie land because they pose a threat to his political power base and then continued to become increasingly corrupt and despotic I think Britain lost any kind a real traction with him but it derives from the fact that. At an establishment level we were not part just as we were not part of supporting the anti appointed struggle that many people in Britain did do so but the establishment didn't. But you know enabled to some extent you know by by people in Britain you know who carried on commercial interests. Oh yes exactly people did business with him he had a lot of support from the business community including the white business community that initially he treated quite treated with their canoe Missy and then as he became increasingly dictatorial started seizing farms and the point of up the farms was not just that the white farmers who lost their farms but also $100.00 black workers on average per farm who lost their jobs and what was even more criminal was that those farms went. Cyd and soon became barren and Zimbabwe from Big being the bread basket of southern Africa became its became reliant on imported food aid so I think that whole lost support from Mugabe lost support within the the white business community and indeed the contacts abroad here in Britain as well. What's Britain's role now that in trying to to see if reconstruction is possible trying to see if Zimbabwe can somehow turn a corner. Well we'll have to see I mean China is much more influential in Zimbabwe than Britain is much more influential and has been for years but what Britain can do and certainly the European Union can do whether we are part of it or not is try is try to revisit that program of assistance that for example when I was Africa minister from 9099 to 2001 we were trying to do as a Labor government in support through millions of pounds of tens of millions of a lable for the land transfer in an orderly lawful and proper basis rather than the criminal basis that ended up in the farms becoming in 1st of all and largely abandoned because they were handed over to Mugabe's cronies or all of them to be. Who knew how to form a proper programme of land reform could still and I think should be supported by different Britains International Development Department and by the European Union and rebuilding the country should also be supported because it's in our interest as a British nation that we have a Zimbabwe with which we have generations of links family basis and in other ways it was a British colony to actually support it to rebuild itself provided that the government of Zimbabwe the new government is not siphoning left money off corruptly as Mugabe and his henchmen have been doing do you think Britain will be actually reaching out to Mr Monk. Well I think they should I think the British government should do that of course he has a bloodstain history alongside Mugabe is his henchmen but I think he's a much more pragmatic individual I remember meeting him when I was Africa minister as indeed I had met Mugabe but quickly fell out with him when he started making ridiculous accusations. About me and. About I thought. God is as a much more savvy in a global sense individual with contacts more broadly on a global level that I think will enable him. To rule in a much more effective way I was I wasn't good to see inclusive way because he's no democratic pluralist and it remains to be seen whether he will go into the next general election g before July next year in a way that is in a way that excepts a willingness to the to agree to the result whatever it is Mugabi would never agree to. Losing an election as he did in the 1st round of the presidential elections in 2008 and one on God well was one of the people who made sure the missile attack on the opposition meant that the opposition the victorious opposition leader over Mugabe in the 1st round Morgan Shangri-La I withdrew from the 2nd round so there was no contest because he feared for his life and that of his that of his party activists and so we need to see whether my non-God is prepared to accept a democratic verdict that goes against him not necessarily that it will do if he rules in an in an inclusive effective and efficient way and brings in the international community and reaches out to investors in a way that McGaughey with Mugabe it turn them away and if he puts an end to the corruption and that's arcing then then I think they wind in a better place but that's also seeing a lot because remember this this change this party Putsch as I think that's a better description for it rather than a a military coup which is you know with a general of replaces an elected politician which has been far too much of Africa's history in the past. Really still the Joc the Joint Operations Committee which was headed by Mugabe with Managua definitely God would definitely in in there right at the heart of it involve the military in the security and other ministers. Other relevant ministers that's still in operation they have yet to show that they're willing to give up they corrupt processes but you know that that the future the future is going to be about whether that is simply a transfer within the elites as it has been so far as it inevitably had to be to avoid violence and to have cheated peaceful transition which is crucially important then to go beyond that is the open question for the. That will we'll have to see and we'll have to encourage those within Zimbabwe who want to to make a break with the past in a genuine fashion and I know you said must we govern pretty much ignored Britain because essentially on opposite sides but you think that Britain should have any preferences there what happens to him I mean that there doesn't seem to be any appetite the moment for justice for all the people who Mr Mugabe has wrong Well Zimbabwe is an independent country in the sooner we get used to that it's taken us perhaps 37 is to do so the better really is not for us to determine what happens for my own my own view is somebody born in Africa who was Britain's Africa minister and as you say involved in the anti upon state struggle is with my parents I do not think there's anything to be gained by some kind of retribution against Mugabi I suspect though I don't know that part of the deal for him finally having resisted so stubbornly giving up power and resigning today was some kind of. Protection whether it's immunity or not for him is his family and to be allowed simply to retire and he's near the end of his life to expire in retirement I suspect that that is the way it will happen in Zimbabwe and I don't think that's a bad thing sometimes you know although there have been a lot of victims of Mugabe Sometimes I think you need to get these guys out of power even if it means you don't bring them to justice because to stop the oppression to stop the victims being increased to stop the killing and the destruction of the country is far more important than retribution for a man well into his ninety's. Lord heard in on the fate of Robert Mugabe that just after half past 4. Premier League. This is b.b.c. 5 Live news comes from serving Hughes have been celebrations overnight in Zimbabwe after Robert Mugabe resigned as president the ruling parties on i.p.f. Says former vice president. Will be sworn in as leader this week David Cassidy has died he was 67 the actor and singer had been admitted to hospital in Florida with organ failure he announced earlier this year he was retiring because he was suffering from dementia and arthritis. Says it had a security breach last year which affected $57000000.00 users and drivers the firm reportedly paid $75000.00 pounds to get hackers to delete the data and the Chancellor Philip Hammond says the use today's budget say the u.k. Must seize the opportunities from Bracks it Labor says he should call time on a stare at a public services Here's the spot wish up man. It started so well for Liverpool going 3 nil up in the 1st half of their Champions League match against the Viet but their opponents fought back to level the game leaving manager Clarke defending his side state of mind yes it was not perfect tonight that's true but it's on a general problem what just happened could we have done better 100 percent think it's a mental problem 100 percent not so it's only it was a misjudgment we wanted to play like we played the 1st half Liverpool must now avoid defeat to sponsor Moscow and feel next month to progress to the last 16 where they'll join the already qualified Manchester City and Tottenham they both won the match is to top their groups respectively Spurs came from behind to win to want Dortmund while City before an old one nil Sheffield United were denied the chance to go top of the championship back to being beaten $54.00 by fall and when Chris Coleman's reign at struggling Sunderland began with a $21.00 defeat at Aston Villa England striker Jody Taylor is leaving off the women to join Australian side Melbourne City for 6 weeks after that should move permanently to Seattle Reign in the us nothing against Arsenal Personally I think a very professional club even from my time when I signed turned out the level of professionalism has increased so much so that somehow I think it's absolutely club you know I think for me I'm better suited you know we like America there will be union in England women have won their 3 test series after beating Canada 4912 in the 2nd Test exit of forward some Symonds is set to start for England for the 1st time with Nathan Hughes out of Saturday's much against Samoa with a knee injury ahead of the ashes starting in Brisbane England all rounder more in Alley says he doesn't know where he is going to bat yet there's been speculation he may move up to 6 with Ben Stokes unavailable but in says he expects to be at 7 I don't know nobody knows exactly about I think probably the 7 again. 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Overvoting because of the rain and even some snow in the forecast over the next few days for the rain well it's ground to a halt for a while across Wales of the billons but will work its way northward to get today some heavier rain pushing not just across the north and west to Wales but into the northern England and to Northern Ireland and it's a central southern Scotland as we head through the day as well also get some lighter more touchy rain perhaps across southwest England this rain is going to be heavier though over the hills of Northwest Wales Cumbria and the southwest of Scotland by the end of the day that could be as much as 100 millimeters of rain that may well lead to some travel disruptions as we head towards the. Head of the rain across most of it where I was going to find the winds picking up strong to go . Mean this could be very mild and if we do get some sunshine in the southeast. Temperatures could be around 15 degrees or buts we're going to find at the other end. Across Scotland. Before. Through the evening the rains develop small widely. Very strong winds so we're going to find sweeping It's what use what's across the globe and Wales but by the early hours of Thursday morning we've got the rain in Scotland turning to snow in the north of Scotland. Through the latter part of the night and into Thursday morning could be some snow. But it's going to be a cold day. But across northern England it will be windy for many areas too but still some mild weather to the mild weather perhaps across. The Midlands and across he. Slides. The greatest rivalry in sports in. Listen on the. First night of the 1st test moves across to 5 Live tonight so there will be no regular up all night tonight in its place there will be a cricket Test match from a show you. I Report that migrants trying to make their way through Libya to Europe are being sold as slaves has been met with shock the head of the un Office on Drugs and Crime Yuri said a tough cities are raising appalled a c.n.n. Documentary contains footage apparently showing young men being auctioned off for as little as $400.00 near the Libyan capital Tripoli the story begins with a tip that was acted on by the International Organization for Migration in Geneva spokesperson Lana dial told me how they found out we started hearing back in April from migrants who seem through this and had managed to escape and make their way back Tunisia back to where they told us about when we were here sort of unbelievable at the time that something as barbaric as happening but you know we heard enough stories and some of them had photographs there was some evidence of it was a bit spotty because the evidence was mixed up with other things off the Internet. But we managed to kind of convince ourselves in time son of picture to be able to come out and say something about a couple months. So it was because you said something then c.n.n. Who made the documentary actually got interested and went out and tried to find it and did find it yeah I mean it is really terrific piece of very very brave reporting but you know that. So when we reported it caused a lot of problems for our stuff because we work in Libya we were inside the detention centers our job was to make life more humane for those who are fortunate . And it's a it's a place of great criminality so when we came out initially to complain about it some of our stuff actually had to leave the country so we kind of didn't talk about it very much more to life see that c.n.n. Was able to go back in and verify to me they told me the reports are just for the money that Tripoli they were the slave markets. I mean this must be a very dangerous business men and women are being sold like human cattle. Well look I think it's a murder machine and it's it's it's more there's more to it than meets the eye but fortunately we start really with youngsters being feeling that they can get a better life leaving whatever village or town or city they're in and getting on to you know in all likelihood Facebook and in 2 clicks being able to be in touch with a smuggler promises on the green so they get on the bus they persuade them to get some money off the mom or something that they get on the bus they drive to the desert the minute they're over the borders are taken into custody they're shaken down and that's when the troubles began there are awful testimonies of people being tortured on camera images being sent back to families or encrypted little water presaging with just a taste a ransom for them when they finish with the not way with the women are being sexually assaulted sold into slavery they have these options with their ups and after so it's a really terrible terrible system understood shame of it really is that we don't know about it we don't of them to care enough about the condition we have to reach . And of course we have Libya which is a place with optimistically 2 competing governments but maybe not even that I mean where is their culpability in this I think Libya the country is the size of France. With a population of size of ours so it's a very small place in terms of population economy is wrecked since the fall of Gadhafi. And the economy in a way is exploiting migrant that's what they've been doing that's how everybody thinks of I Ming So everybody's. On the way we see it from the from the social media companies who facilitate the stuff with the smugglers not intentionally of course to the social media companies allow people to send messages extort money from people to people in the country who are exploiting the migrants it's a really really terrible terrible situation and not nearly enough practical so the u.n. Secretary general says he wants an investigation by all competent authorities but should he be turning his attention on the social media well I mean with this very powerful he says a control of so much of the media we think they have a lot to answer for and they have a lot more responsibility to live up to them they do that's our point is not that they are to blame for what's going on but they could do a lot more about whether they could message to the people and take a don't believe the smugglers or the. Block some of these sites is no question that many in the. Social media not to blame for that quite obvious but they are part of the problem. When a dial at the International Organization for Migration Well last night we heard all about McLaren motor sports world's fastest gamer competition and after a week of racing and testing and getting behind the wheel of the Formula One simulator the winner was announced on Tuesday Rudy Van Buren a 25 year old sales manager and farmer a go cart champion from Holland has got the job put up as the prize he's got to join the McLaren Formula One team as its new simulator driver just before he got on the plane home he spoke to Paul Knight Adam rusher and I'm asked what it was like to take part in the competition it was simply mind blowing I think for all of us involved in this competition it has been really cool experience from the start and so this point so what was the favorite was it doing the limo race virtually or was it being in the f one simulator and definitely one simulator the best thing by miles from from this week and what do you think it was that pulled you out ahead of the rest of the pack you all very good races you are all obviously very good at driving simulators Why do you think they went with you just gotta say we haven't seen we haven't seen the real numbers yet but I know I did get job but the real simulator that doesn't help me is a favorite in that regard I think it's the overall package from the week I did my thing all week being consistent being on pace relaxing when needed and in the end it paid off so do you see yourself as a very technical driver or is a very sort of instinctual driver I think it's a combination of both I know from myself that I can be very consistent and get a good seat back regarding to what the car is doing I just try to exploit that set a maximum and show my hand in a simulator in combination with Speedo Schlink you raced carts in Holland you won the Dutch karting championship in 2003 but you had to stop you couldn't make the jump between the carts and the world of the open wheeled cars and all of the other formula. There so is this a chance for you to get back on track as it were with your motor racing Yeah in some regard it is my whole real life motor sport book kind of coast off the go karting and that went to sim racing in a similar racing brought me back into real life pictures so yes and when you had to start racing the cant's did it feel like you're racing career was at an end and then there was suddenly a whole new world of online racing and of virtual racing Yes it was definitely over for me after the after go karting days and then I discovered sim racing for about 9 years now and then this competition came by and decided to sign up and look where I am now higher than I could ever imagine in the motorsport ranking and what does it actually mean to win what happens next you know what happens next is something I'm going to find out the coming weeks 1st I'm just going to enjoy this moment and how did your family react to the news that you've got this job that goes along side being a sigh was manager Well I have spoken to my dad for about 30 seconds and then then the real work started already with that with interviews and such so I'll talk to him the sniper office the parents are both very proud do you think they're going to let you behind the wheel of a real life one car any point would you like that. You know they won't and it's not why I'm in this game either I'm McLaren simulator test driver only going to focus Step 4 or 400 percent obvious so having trouble getting your head around what this means Allan boy Smith is the editor of Team v v v dot com a news website that follows the driving game seed I asked Alan bison for his thoughts on the choice of relief on beer and I think that you know. They've had they've got to find someone who's quick but who who listens to commands who listens to what he's told who gives detailed feedback information on many aspects so that could be vibrations in the car it could be the way the car's turning but then once he's found that he's got to the an articulate that as to how do we fix this and if we fix it is it working so it's one thing being quick but it's another thing being quick understanding the elements of making it quick and that's where Rudy has the speed the physicality and clearly an articulate nature than I was in to deliver what McLaren need in terms of ultimate speed for the real thing I know and there's presumably was why the whole selection process took place over a matter of days so that they could get a really good handle on the candidates but right yes so I mean the all of the candidates come from different aspects of simulation gaming you know gaming on games console is on mobile phones on the p.c. They all have different attributes but the one thing they all have in common is that they they drive visually you know they're not used to feeling the g. Force and the other elements to the car so there's a whole aspect of real racing the seat of your pants driving if you like that's missing and so what I need to understand was can we find a driver who's able to has clearly got incredible speed to mean their speed was excellent to get this far but do they have the elements we need as a test driver to help us develop the reform the long car and I suppose we have sound a go cart you know what it's like to go in a car a high speed absolutely yes it's a sweaty gauging experience and it's very physical and so you know obviously the experience would help as well so you know it's combining them I think that's why they've been doing a lot of physical tests on the guys this week as well to really give them an idea of what it's like with the g. Force. You know and also I think it's fine tuning you know these full on jobs are just put into a car you know they're physically trained you know they're looking at how the body takes in forces they're looking at how they perform under pressure various different stress above all they're increasing their capacity in terms of what they can do when they're in the car more capacity means you can go quicker and control more elements of in the car and what's the general buzz about this in your community you know people play driving games obsessively are they are they all very envious of her m r I I think they are I think that you know we've had a similar example in the past we had g.t. Academy from Sony which was a combination of Gran Turismo working with Nisanit Sony and the idea was it was from game to racing driver so it was a proven success in terms of that it worked and the course the drive that gone on to Le Mond success as well so in this sense you know game is no you know when you're using a wheel and pedals at home it's the very same input as it is in the real car it's not like you're playing a football game with or with a controller you know here you need all of the same elements not tributes to actually drive the real thing you know and I think gamers look at it and they they know they've always known I think gamers that there's this opportunity out there but I think it's been more the motor industry from the other side saying oh it's just a toy and now realizing actually the toys have now developed to a point that people are sitting up and taking notice you know these guys have real talent that can be of real value to the motor industry and do you really get people saying well maybe if I'm awfully good at a simulator one day I'll get a chance at the real thing. I don't know about that I think we know our limitations . You know going into a real racing car the physicality is another level and I think people might think yeah I can do it and they can make the adjustment but not everyone can I think that you you can be great simulation gaming you can have incredible speed but to make the transition I think if you're not doing it when you're really young your body doesn't develop in the right way like many sports. In Formula one of a to killer has such high pressures on the body in terms of g. Force that it's really difficult for people to truly understand just what it's like in those cars when you're racing around and hitting the brakes into each corner and you feeling all of your innards fly forward as you're going into corners it really is. It's it really pushes your body to the limit and it's very difficult to sort of describe for people in terms what have that g. Force effects really work so I think gamers understand it they get it but I'm sure some of them feel I'm a talented as Lewis Hamilton I would love to have a go in the real car and there are times when you say well this guy is so good at simulation driving he's so quick on the power in the corners I would love to see his talent in a real car if only for a few laps to prove how it transitions. Bison heredity Team v v v dot com. A short story which may be one of the last things to be written by the dean of noir detective fiction Raymond Chandler is published this month the 1st time it's all right he only died showed up in a shoe box in the Chandler archives at the Bodleian Library in Oxford after some detective work of his own by our old friend Andrew Gulli the editor of Strand magazine I think this is the final final being that can't learn or wrote that will ever be published from my research sitting around in life bring California and oddly in. I think that this is it but you just never ever ever know because whenever wherever else say something like this does it suddenly read in the newspaper about somebody innings a bunch of papers a for a writer and then you're like oh my God No I was wrong so so you just never know. So Chandler's archives are in Oxford at the Bodleian Why on earth the Oxford. Rob Templar was an angle of fire I remember I remember when I 1st started publishing this trend magazine and I digress I contacted Michael Gilbert because I wanted him to write it started story for us. And Gilbert was one of was the last surviving up there is of the golden age of the detective story and he was quite elderly then he was in his late eighty's literally early ninety's. And I contacted him and we had a one conversation and he said you know I was Raymond Chandler solicit their god you were Raymond Chandler solicitor and he says yeah I knew Ray. And he was describing about what an Anglo file Chapter Why is it how he loved London. And that is how he was educated in doublet school so I think the reason that these papers or donated there was September it says fell in love with England he loved it there and he. Is spent his formative years in England as well. What gave you the idea that there might be a story of how your own the traveler archive that hadn't been published Well it's the same thing with all the other words right where I'm at look like the hero but you know a lot of times it's just stumbling across something in s. Slapstick way you know I want to tell you about all the other writers there's works out you know take libraries about and I'll just end up looking and getting the bad news that they have nothing. So in this case I did some research today I read this paper is where they're. Looking at a light rain California and finding nothing it's that Ok now let's just hope that the Bible Ian as something and you know I struggle. How did you find that well I spoke to the I was in communication with the with the with the head librarian who is a wonderful wonderful man it was very patient and throughout the whole process. You know did not kill me. I sent him several e-mails back and forth you be sending me paper isn't I would be cross referencing and you know doing some research. And then finding that I had come up with nothing and then finally this was the last last thing that he sent me. And when I opened up the envelope I was acting like Caspar Gottman and The Maltese Falcon saying 17 years I've waited for this. One opened up the I mean a little bit real to tell us about a story the story is called It's All right you only died and seems to be seems to have a pretty kind of sad start it does it does it reflects a lot it fair reflects a lot of gamblers and he's with the big money. And the stories about this what's called the transience there's a homeless man who ends up in the emergency room of the hospital. And the hospital staff by are reluctant to treat him because they're pretty sure that he will not be able to pay them. So it has this and there is a twist at the end which was one of the reasons why I published it because you always like to publish something back and surprise the reader. So. I'm not I mean I'll go ask you a cask about the outcome of the story but but the style I mean the style mature Chandler I was at Airlie trial. This is Mr Chandler and Bank One of the thrill of. Milan a sort of kid is looking at a copy if that manuscript and seeing let's say John Steinbeck and then you know at this address or Tennessee Williams And you know have his address in it and in this case Raymond Chandler and you see the address of Neptune plates California. And from there you can piece together that this was one of the last things that he had written. And to that effect it was very well written as the punt the Raymond Chandler dialogue this streamlined the script and it's just very very quick I mean Chandler did not believe in having been a lingering for a lot of time in his works you know are describing a sunset for a very lot of time you know when you read arraignment tabular story you know he just gets up out of the blocks very quickly and this story was no exception to that and when it comes to the. Primacy of money. It's a real piece of social criticism as it is talking about the Society of America tied to say nothing about the society to the. Exactly Chandler Well if Chancellor worked in the oil industry in the twenty's and thirty's his own boss was. Sacked from the kind of company's farm bets on it so you know he could see how it might be and greed could corrupt people and this story carries along that theme it another theme that interested sampler was how people could it period to be one way you could find something very different about Templar's world the elaborate people of Hollywood were superficially glamorous but this very very ill man or are very very cagey. I mean I had an eye situation a couple of years ago where I had something stuck in my eye. For and by the and it was from when I was in New York I was visiting New York walk as a construction site built this nagging thing in my head so anyway a couple of days later I'm back home and I was you know doing some work and you know running errands and I was right by my head that there's at 1st and then I just you know at that point it was having difficulty seeing so I went over there and said you know can you guys take a look at me not just manage your supply I need to serious Terrence card so I fumbled for my wallet produced my my insurance card and it turned out that I had given my dental card and I was told Well you know we can't see you. We can only see it tomorrow and when you do come back tomorrow if you don't produce your help insurance card you will not be taking care of. So when you remember experiences like that you just you get the you get you understand the feel that how Templer looked at things and how the person's ability to pay can and does influence how they're treated every day.