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You IRA around 80 officers took part in searches in the Craigan area a teenage boy has been charged with terror offenses in war except the 16 year old was arrested at his home in rugby last week during a pre-planned operation a 62 year old man arrested at a separate address has been released on bail the suicide rate in the U.K. Has risen for the 1st time in 6 years according to the Office for National Statistics the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence is calling for better support a more information for those affected Amy Meadows lost her mum to suicide 10 years ago the day that my mum died the police came and went within a couple of hours we were there which in touch a few days later the coroner's court and subsequent 6 months later the inquest and whole period I didn't receive any information from any authority the only information we got was a result of me proactively searching online see what I could find out almost 12000000 adults in England were prescribed potentially addictive drugs like sleeping pills and painkillers last year review by Public Health England reveals concerns some patients are struggling to come off them it suggests helpline should be set up in the US adventure Victor Vesco has become the 1st person to visit the deepest points in every ocean his 5th and final descent was made to the bottom of the Malloy trench in the Arctic about 5 and a half kilometers below the sea surface as good as sports headlines now his Katy Smith scholar manager Steve Clarke says qualifying for the year at 2020 by their group is over and his side will now target 3rd in group high in the hopes of reaching the tournament by the playoffs in March is office got the last 4 nailed about Parkhead borna setting up 3 goals before scoring one himself meanwhile not one knocks off the top of Group C. After losing to Nelson Germany at Windsor Park they could be out of the crucial top 2 spots in Group C. If they loose in the Netherlands in their next game while Wells won their 4th game in a row at home they be batteries one nail in their friend they now. Where Great Britain won 11 medals on the opening night of the world power Swimming Championships in London Reese Don Burke his own world record to take gold in the S. 14200 metres freestyle and Europe lead America by 27 points off to the opening day of the inaugural the match athletics competition in Minsk person down the set won the women's 100 mates as it comes just over 2 weeks out from the World Championships in Doha this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. Sound small space the weather a mix of sunshine and clouds for most areas today heavy rain moving into Scotland and Northern Ireland in the afternoon and some strong winds possible here as well we'll have a detailed forecast for you in around half an hour here on. LIVE ON meet Good morning on a fair on the U.K. On digital and all I had a mirage were up all night upon looking at images of women and children in captivity after seeking asylum on America's southern border the former US 1st Lady Laura Bush was moved to call them eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American in term of cups of World War 2 now considered she said to be in one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. History are still if they happen north of the border to giving a special part. And say to a Canadian archaeologist discovery of a previously unknown Japanese village in the mountains north of Vancouver a thriving community that existed from the end of one war to the middle of another collapsed mysteriously abruptly. After a largely bad tempered debate in the Commons followed by a vote in which the prime minister maintained as 100 percent record of defeat parliament has been provoked the suspension ceremony saw some of the opposition staging a protest after the entrance of Black Rod speak. Also rice life and much his mission to declare to the class how well let's say I'm qualified place. And so also to class for our great hall and. Design the presence of this honorable have you. Know I. Have the the the the and I the. The one and yes I was right the honorable members are shouting no Conservative M.P. Andrew passé was unimpressed with the events of last night I thought it was embarrassing spectacle for the whole institution and I thought the speaker actually some day I don't ways and until very recently had been a big fan of and supported because he defends and in a backbench rights but I thought today he's engaged in student politics from start to finish and I think he's been he's behaved quite disgracefully tonight you know he knows purgation we were going away anyway for 3 weeks because it's the party conferences we do that every year in until relatively recently parliament adjourn and adjourned in July and interim but a lot so. But so just it was like student union politics. Well how not all the S.N.P. M.P. Was one of those who stayed seated while the government side left the chamber it was sort of bizarre situation where you know we were not going to proceed through to the Lords but we wanted to make our voices hared that we would I'm happy so there was a short Pedia twee or it was just a vacuum and nothing was happening so some song you know we pushed into song the Scottish members there simply members sung a school where he a some Welsh members behind us from played and leave but also sang a Welsh song I think that was also at one point flew to Scotland in Jerusalem being sung state by state and it was all in good humor and I don't know I think that sometimes and these bizarre situations as a Seville a time to be in politics I have to say we you know that seemed like the best thing to do at the moment well once again the prime minister failed to get a snap general election he needed the support of 2 thirds of M.P.'s but could only secure a majority of 247 here is how he reacted. I have. The house to trust the people but once again the opposition think they know that they won the British time is if you can join a vital negotiation without the power to walk away they want to delay a break see yet again yet again without further reference to those who voted for it handing over to Brussels an extra $250000000.00 pounds a week but no purpose and the top rate move in 5 hospitals will train 5000 new nurses and most egregiously it will not only have they refused to choose the way ahead they have now twice denied the British people their say. Well parliament was officially prorogued after 1 o'clock this morning and the opposition leader Jeremy carbon had this parting shot before happened the one saying the prime minister didn't say was that he was going to obey the laws of this country he did not say he acknowledged here except page 3 votes that have taken place in this province and under his request the house is now due apparently this evening to be Perogue to one of the longest program congregations in history seems. To appoint any questioning of what he's doing oh not doing simpy to avoid discussion about Yellow how much surprise it particularly to avoid any discussion about the proposals he has or hasn't would do or don't exist that is being put to the European Union Mr Speaker this government is a disgrace and the way the prime minister operates as I described. Well before the failure of the vote on a snap election M.P.'s back calls 531123024 the publication of government communications relating to the suspension of Parliament and the release of all documents relating to Operation yellow or the government's previously secret no deal contingency plan which has leaked come on sources have been reported suggesting that ministers will refuse to comply with that order U.K. Foreign minister dominate Rob also said the Prime Minister won't be going to proselyte Senate Tobar to negotiate a delay to pricks it Alison Young this Professor of Public lot Cambridge I asked Professor Young if there's any precedent for a government that refuses to be a not just a stated well of Parliament but a law which has been signed by the Queen not that I know where I mean all the way out we can you have examples of ministers refusing state that is for having gall to call. And then the court is now able to grant an injunction to force them to carry at the legal obligations so yes it is not something we're used to seeing a government outright saying well we have legislation such housing LOL We're just not going to apply it I have to be fair to them they are saying well we'll have to interpret it to say what it is we have to obey which we all used to but just just outright but I legislation it is not healthy ways to sing. The the piece of legislation that subsequently passed releasing 2 communications between government ministers in particular operation yellow hammer to. Protect supplies in the event of a new deal that's that suggestion that all that stuff has to be released is it easier for the government to say well actually in the interests of national security or something we're not going to do that yet it easy easy is that because 1st this isn't also when we look at the European Union withdrawal like number 2 trench 19 the the bill that's just being an actor and that's legislation from parliament requiring the exact day some think the information the request to give evidence over about propagation and yellow Hama is what we call a humble address so this is a motion from the Commons asking the crown to disclose papers and that's not binding in law or binding in convention so if they don't abide that then it's contents of the house so what the government can argue is well there are some legal restrictions on what we can disclose say things like protecting national security or protecting privacy so they will try and work out what they can disclose without breaking the law in otherwise. If parliament has been probed as we know it will be . Will have been by the time the morning comes this that make it easier for the government to act in whatever it calls the national interest it makes it harder for the Commons to then say that the government aid in contempt of the House for not obeying what the Commons as us did today because that would require a contempt motion and palmed is not that bring it so instead what it can do is go to the meat go to press make statements so M.P.'s can say this is the wrong thing the government should be complying with the humble address but it is going to be difficult for them to do anything about it with regards to content to the house because that all but. Coming back to the central question as to whether the government shouldn't then be sending a delegation to Brussels to start talking about an extension if if they don't do that they within their power within their rights if you like as a government. I would argue no because the legislation makes it clear that they must go and seek an extension and set the less that the supposed to right in order to do that to see the extensions it's very clear they must do this if certain conditions are on the met and those conditions are that by the 19th of what type of parliament has approved the House of Commons has approved a deal or is approved leaving no deal if that doesn't happen they're legally obliged to go and ask for an extension. What are the consequences for members of the government if if they continue to act. And I'm not I don't think putting words in your mouth but what I think you've told us is an unconstitutional way. Well again you're back to looking at the wording of the legislation and the legal requirement so if they don't go I told so let's say I mean I'm not saying they're definitely going to do this but let's imagine a hypothetical situation where they say Well well thank you very much Christine the law but we're just not going be we know the slight about to leave but we're still somewhere else we're not going to board a flight we're not going to go over the Ask the extension and then you get to a situation where I die or in breach of my legal obligation to do so so they're in a position where legally it could be possible to get an injunction against them to make them to go and if they don't fulfill the obligations of the injunction then they're in contempt of court to NEVER there's a case to imprison you for contents of court so they're all potential serious legal consequences if you disobey it clearly sets out legal obligations in legislation. As we speak the House still hasn't actually come to a vote on the request for snap election every indication as to on that done if the government got a snap election would that change anything the fact that the House had then risen for an election. Well and if the legislation has received Royal Assent to law but still legally binding the difference which they obviously if there's a snap general election the question then would be when with the election be held would there be a minister in place in time to go and fulfill the obligation so that might. Cause issues but the way it would be seen is the miniseries until the result of the general election is a determined just if there was one done the prime minister would continue to be Boris Johnson so all complete he would still have the obligation to go a long enough extension during that time. Well mitigation for asking what is now an extremely hypothetical question since they didn't go for a snap election I would point out that obviously we were talking a little bit earlier on while I was still a possibility nothing more some would argue that breaks it's enough to drive you to drink so with that mind we set our reporter Rory Carson to the butcher's Arms pub in Cardiff to speak to people they're taking part in a pub quiz we have a special there's no. Moving. Right. Across the board. There's nothing quite like using politics to get in the mood for a public ways I'm right in the center of Cardiff in a pub called The pictures on the football's on in the background on the quizmaster he did his best to keep every all everyone really wants to talk about that they called breakfast you know you've got a kind of you can do anything from this to the world and then. I promise is really try and I'll just just put stumbling blocks in front of them all the time in this NG I mean what if you know what I think it's a conspiracy that they never ever hold up threatening can a person I'm convinced all these people over there right. It's a paycheck and then they make an offer what do you think about our Prime Minister I think I like him I do I think is really trying is the Church of Donald Trump about him. Like him I just think he's great and he'd sound like somebody who would get something done because the rest of your Monday out of the hearing in their instance or no. I think honestly to it. Like to see happen next it's a part of the school beast. And for the next 5 weeks. They're on holiday and it'll be no loss because all they do is argue if you don't know yet that we don't do anything he said probably say as really old coming down you know it's I mean a lot of people are just fed up by and by the shade like we all fed back to the cheap let's let's do this. Would you like a general election you. Know you've got a guy that I want to see. You here in your feet estimates nearly a tick and it just goes over I don't think so this time no I don't I think you do very well but it's only thing I practice and spin and that's just me that machine will say and they need to be much more to be much more conscious always I'm now I'm . Still going down the pipe and I think we should have had a deal before we got to ends where we fell in full and now it's floundering trying to scramble a deal and. It's just kind of crossing Max I think it's more the ego contests now between all the party thing and I just spent in the parliament. And the prime minister while the totally totally wrong to suspend on a such a vital time made a promise but she said he's unlikely to keep no. I'm to suspend Parliament like that is sort of almost a college without a lot of trying to get it done to what he's all think about the M.P.'s in Westminster so far. Not one of those 2 hours understood the Welsh independents most of the way and I'm sure I've never been a well up from a Welsh independence Marcellus those times come arms the odds it's going to just because I'm not liking the stories very much of him to want to. You know I mean the whole career politicians are not represented Wales. Very conversation with some of the people at the butcher's Arms pub in Cardiff earlier tonight. Legal officers from the United States have a 9 star collective investigation into allegedly anti competitive practices by Google the declaration on behalf of 50 attorneys general was made on the steps of the Supreme Court they said the aim was to protect the free market competition and consumers in the face of what they describe as the online search engine juggernaut well is a sign this is a bad time for the giants of tech Mike Swift is Chief Global Digital Risk correspondent and them Lakes market insight Hello Mike hello how are you we sort of getting used to you know governments taking on Google and Facebook and an apple at the from times what exactly has prompted this one well I think it's more people in there on that side of the Atlantic are maybe more used to it than we are here in United States but. This is something that's really been sort of boiling at a low low volume for a long time and. We've been reporting in recent months that it was getting close and today 48 of the 50 states that the state attorneys general of those states stood in front of the United States Supreme Court and said that they were watching this investigation of Google so it's the very perilous time for Google here in the United States it's probably the most serious antitrust probe of a tech company since Microsoft in the 1990 S. . Typically if an antitrust probe has success the company has broken up into smaller parts doesnt it. That's one possible outcome it's possible that Google could be forced to divest itself of some of the smaller startups that it's bought over the years it's possible there could be some sort of the havior revenues that they would have to make a change in their advertising business so nobody really knows where this is going it was pretty remarkable today the level of rhetoric that the state attorneys general were using for Google but but also the fact that you know they said this could lead to some sort of challenge over Duvel Google's privacy practices or its its competition issues with anti trusts they could go either way with this probe and we'll see what happens in the next few months and the issue said the Europeans are more used to this kind of thing I'm I'm refreshing my memory paradoxically with Google and reminding myself that in 2018 the European Union find Google 5000000000 dollars You know a phenomenal sum of money for using on Droid $2.00 to stop other people from doing whatever they did. Right right but we haven't really seen those types of any sanction like that actually towards the tech industry here in the U.S. And now we have the United States Department of Justice the Federal Trade Commission and now you know 48 of the 50 states that are basically looking into not only Google but also Facebook so it's really remarkable how you know a company that you know 10 years ago had this image of you know a very ethical don't do evil type of company has really its image is just totally been transformed here in the United States over the last year how are much of the sites there has to do with people's concerns over the use of data and you know in passing on information. I think a lot that's a big source of the worry here are the Cambridge analytical case which became public you know in March and 2018 I think really transformed made people much more aware of what was going on behind the scenes very few people I think had a good sense of that before before that scandal even though that involved Facebook and not Google I think it's really caused people to sort of rethink to some degree you know what's happening with their data and you know here in California legislature passed a sweeping new privacy law last year which is going to take effect on January 1st and that's another sign of how people are becoming much more concerned about data use here in the United States. The volume of data to has been reassessed isn't the by the public at large because the the companies used to refer to it as a sort of a byproduct. Right and I think you know people have long been in the habit of you know my G. Mail is free you know using Facebook is free but. You know people have started to become more aware I think of the profits that these companies are seeing as well and that's basically you know a function of the data that they're access and I think people are becoming more aware that their ready personal data as a lot of the value and. I think that they're realizing people are becoming more aware of the exchange that's happening and you know maybe that's a good thing I think ultimately it had to happen what do the attorneys general say they want a hoe they're going to make Google more responsible or more responsive at least. You know that's a great question because I'm not sure they know that themselves one thing it was really striking today was just kind of the level of rhetoric about Google the attorney general of Arkansas for example Leslie Rutledge got up and said you know I'm a new mother and I can't count on Google to give me accurate information about medicine for my daughter when she said again. You know the attorney general of Utah said you know Google used to be the company of don't do evil and now it's completely switched its direction and it's you know it's basically just searching for dominance and. You know it's almost as if they were talking about big tobacco or a company that was causing you know pumping pollution into the air and it's really quite remarkable that that you're hearing that come from states around the U.S. And I think it's really causing a rethinking for people here inside the companies in Silicon Valley it's I mean it's almost sounds as if if you're in big tech you just get out of the way anymore because somebody. It's good to say something bad about you in the way that you conduct your business I think I think a lot of people inside the companies feel that way these days it's just you know 11 bad headline after another but you know I don't know maybe there's the law of the universe that thing this even out and you know these were companies that were just you know seen as being the most wonderful companies you know that ever were created and. You know when when things go in one direction in a very far sometimes they spring back very far in the other direction and it seems like that something of what's happening now. Reich's rift. Market And so Mike thanks very much indeed thanks for having me. Let's just go up to half past 4. On digital B.B.C. Sounds small speak Various is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live Clarkson has the news parliament has been suspended for 5 weeks now opposition M.P.'s chanted No And shame on you in protest at the pro gay sion with some refusing to leave the Commons to go into the House of Lords for the ceremony Boris Johnson's failed in his 2nd attempt to call a snap general election the prime minister didn't get the support of 2 thirds of M.P.'s that he needed under the fixed term parliaments act petrol bombs or in throw the police in London dairy during searches linked to dissident republicans 2 young people were injured when trouble broke out in the Kraken area and politicians civil servants and advisers have donated to reason May's resignation almost list which came out at midnight they're also not heard for former England cricket captain Sanders Strauss and Geoffrey Boycott the Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick is being made a day as good as sport on his Katie Smith Scotland types of reaching year a 2020 by their qualification group are all but over that's after a decisive 4 nil defeat to Belgium at Hampden Park Manchester City's Kevin born to outlast the host setting up 3 goals before deciding to score himself and seal the play for Scotland while manager Steve Clarke says he still found some positives you can't avoid to schooling I know what I'm not trying to avoid a schoolboy but there were bits in the game moments in the game world before we looked we looked at all we could become a decent team in time given time to go Clarke side must now look to next year's playoffs as their best hope of reaching the main torment Meanwhile Northern Ireland's manager Michael O'Neill says he wanted to see his side pitch many under more pressure they lost 2 nil at Windsor Park a move off the top of Group see things with the opportunity in a way sent out to the players who can be profiled played and proud of that and can play both in the energy of players but. You know we get chances of we have against . Them while they could be out of the crucial top 2 spots in the group if they lose the Netherlands in their next game in October Meanwhile an early goal from Daniel James gave Wales a $10.00 win over ballerinas in their friendly Manchester City's Phil Foden school twice as England's Under 20 one's defeat to cost of a $2.00 nail in their year a 2021 qualifying this evening England Seanie a side play out say Mary's we've got commentry right here for you on 5 live cricket then I'm full mingling captains Geoffrey Boycott and Andrew Strauss have been given knighthoods into reason May's resignation on his list forming a coach for Strauss Andy Flower says there's no one more worthy of the honor while E.C.B. Chief exact Tom Harrison says such Geoffrey Boycott has shown passionate dedication to the sport while another former skeptic Graeme cage has come to the defense of Joe Root calling criticism of his captaincy cheering the ashes harsh been under fire off to Australia retain the urn with victory at Old Trafford says attention needs to turn to the future of the Test team we've been beaten by a better side we have to and that's it we have to rebuild we've got to win a bit years for the Ashes in Australia and we have to look at that side now we've got and here I have plenty of attacking back to go to find some prize who can be good for with for those price so we can put the scores on the board and and have named an unchanged $13.00 man squad for Thursday's final test the evil Great Britain 111 medals on the opening night of the world power Swimming Championships in London. A British one c 3 and the F. 14200 meter freestyle breaking his own world record on the way to gold God means able to make himself this is a period so close is so opposes it and so much that So too much to it and Europe lead America by $27.00 points off to the opening day of the match is the new athletics competition going on in Minsk he can follow the action on dates he lays out on the B.B.C. Sport website that's the latest now. B.B.C. Sport This is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. South it's small street some are in the morning yesterday gave us a rather disappoint to start the working week was grey from what it was called as well but rather different because we have just a brief ridge of high pressure building across the. Quad A lot of cloud around there 1st thing this morning and. Yesterday's rain Misty a murky in some spots but it should begin to brighten quite quickly now as the hours go by and actually today will be tough with a lot of dry weather and should be some decent sunshine through the afternoon as well but it is something of a calm before the storm because as we head through this evening and overnight we will have an area of low pressure that is actually the berm that's part of from Dorian I was stressed and not to harm a can of course at the moment but a deep area of low pressure running through to the north of the U.K. That will make things and windy as we head overnight she's day and on into Wednesday. Today's daytime and for England and Wales yes the start we will see Sunny spouse developing perhaps a few isolated showers across eastern England and the Midlands from time to time the cloud a bit of it more stuff in here as well but in the sunshine. And yesterday the temperature is typically 16 to 19 degrees perhaps 20 posts a reasonable swathe actually of eastern England phenomenon and I think the best of the sunshine the 1st thing could be quite a chilly start it is going to get there cloudy Yes through the afternoon some rain will arrive as the wind starts to strengthen that deep area of low pressure starting to make itself felt 1516 in all the nodded to Scotland be fine start a few stray showers in the East was that will cloud around him as well sunshine quite widespread through the middle of the day and then cloud and rain approaching the west through the evening strengthening gusty winds again as that and I start to back down. $15.00 to $17.00 degrees on season 6. Because you know now the. Last minute. Most of us think I know we'll listen to. B.B.C. As you'll find that it is going to take. The. $29.00 T. Still listening Swedish on site Sally's and finally sports extra. On digital B.B.C. Said last week and this is B.B.C. 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Some wag will not stress we should do more of our promos in Japanese However back to business and 2004 a professor took his students on a field trip it was just outside Vancouver and they want to turn to some to a logical fieldwork while walking through the mountains of the North Shore they stumbled across the remains of a Hutu unknown village and he is Robert Michael professor of archaeology Capuano University in British Columbia hello Professor Michael hello thanks for having me how did you come across this village What did what did you find that made you think there was something there well it was heavily forested but I could see that there was just a few tin cans and part of a blade so I thought well it's a probably an old logging camp not thinking it would be Japanese but then so I thought well this would be a good place to train my students to do some excavation and it was only when we started excavating did I find that it was a little settlement and made of entirely of Japanese. What I much how much was there I mean did you did you mediately know how big this would be. You know I've been going back there for about the last 15 summers mostly working at this one site and so far we've collected about a 1000 artifacts mostly old Japanese dishes and Japanese bottles we found the remains of about 14 houses all under ground all the wooden walls had decomposed but we find the household items that we can tell there was a house there we found the remnants of a Japanese bath house we have what was probably a Japanese shrine we have a vegetable garden we have water reservoir. And it's a lot of common areas around there it was also well you know 99 percent was covered by the forest so we found almost everything through excavation goodness me usually of course where we talk about archaeology with think about things a lot longer ago but when I was actually inhabited. I think that this site would have initially been established as a logging camp probably about 1918 and then I surmise that after about 2 or 3 years the logging ceased and I think a group of Japanese just decided to keep living their throat the 1920 S. And thirty's up until 942 it would have been that kind of a secret occupation and then in 1942 in February the Canadian government restricted Japanese from the coastal region of Canada because the Japanese had you know just entered World War 2 So that what they were doing was the are sending all people of Japanese descent to internment camps so I think they probably lived there until the 1942 and then I think they centrally just walked away from this camp in 1942 expecting or hoping that they would return but they never did so we essentially it's very unusual site in the sense that they just seem to walk away and left all their dishes there that. In good condition they clearly had some objects in anticipation of remaining returning there's an awful lot of personal items that you would not not not normally expect to find an archaeological site we find for example clocks and pocket watches and pocket knives and pieces of cameras and things like that normally things that people would have taken with them so I think they stayed there in secret for a couple of decades and then they were injured and never came back well I hadn't really twigged that in Canada a Japanese Canadians were in town just as Japanese Americans in California where in town and a was it was there a lot of hostility then too there was these people there was a throat the 19 Weatherly part of the century there was quite a bit there was actually race riots in Vancouver for against both the Japanese and the Chinese so it would have been you know sometimes I describe this settlement is almost like in a way says of Japanese culture where they could be left to do to practice their own culture thus we have like the gardens and the shrine and the bath house etc So there was a lot of racial tension at the time and also it was a little bit different in Canada than the U.S. In so far as at the end of the war the Japanese in the U.S. Were allowed to go back to coastal areas immediately but in Canada they weren't allowed to go back to the coastal areas until 1950 so consequently a lot of people never did come back to British Columbia they just spread eastward across Canada which makes it to you know difficult to find people who may have actually lived in those camps in the 1920 S. And thirty's if they were still alive because now they'd be spread out all across Canada have you found out the answer all. Not yet no I'm expecting that now there are some media that someone will come forward hopefully Interestingly a couple of days ago I had somebody say that they knew somebody who remembers growing up there but it turns out that the person had to Manchester so that was a false lead but we're hopeful now that some other members of the Japanese community will come forward and when you think about it they must have had in a way quite a nice life it was it was a little secret place where they could just get on and lead their lives. I think I agree with that and I've had many people of Japanese descent up to to the site which is quite remote but I can get them there and they also pretty much say the same thing it would have been a very nice place to live there was lots of fresh water and there was nice views and it was fairly remote but yet it was like wide open and nobody would have bothered them there because you know they're in the margins of an urban area in a forest that had been logged but there would be no reason for anybody to go there unless they were living there so I think that they probably lived there and it would have been about an hour and 15 minute walk out of the forest to the closest bus stop so you know it's likely that the men still could have maintained jobs like and you know in local industry in the cities just you know walking about an hour and 15 minutes each way to the bus stop and women and children probably stayed behind you know in this little village Goodness me what would have made them come to Canada in the 1st place. Economic they came to Canada mostly beginning the late 18th hundreds mostly for cheap labor in the fishing industry primarily and then mining industry and agriculture and then finally logging it was cheap labor still that's why they came in. Well I mean such an interesting story did did your students get involved to where they coming back with you summer after summer to do that then Student different students every summer there is an archaeology field school where I train them in the methods of archaeology So what is it that they will enjoy it is quite competitive to get into the field school and it's a nice field school because we're still local They can still live at home and yet we're it's almost like you're a 1000000 miles away in the forest where you know you're pretty dense forest and there's no cell service and there's 2 other people around so it's a kind of nice we have to deal with bears on a regular basis and but it's really quite nice it's so it's quite scenic up there it's quite nice place to be. That's very lovely Well thank you so much and good luck finding somebody who live there or maybe the child of somebody who lives yes thank you very much OK. VESA Robert Markel from capital Arnaud University in British Columbia GA has a new prime minister a man with something of a reputation after he oversaw a police crackdown on anti-government protests in the summer here's a 100 Mitri hello or a hand. We did. We'll have rich in a couple of minutes instead let's look and see what's in the pages of this morning's Financial Times I was speaking to Fred student before the votes in the comments but obviously it's all about pollen and breaks and all of those votes that have been happening through Tuesday and all the dramas as well I mean the announcement from the speaker John Boehner he's effectively stepping down but in that list for others one thing that caught our eye take me for our readers is the. Only weapons trees a maze top civil servant books and negotiate who Crofter. Failed to get through Parliament and has led to where we are he's taken a job with Goldman Sachs the top 10 U.S. Investment bank which is noted for hiring very savvy and experienced public officials and politicians to burnish its ranks who they bring with them obviously a lot of expertise in science and contacts but I think there's going to be some questions around you know would he have been from past predictable courses of someone who was. Associated with a particular line of policy and was quite a controversial figure to many on the leaf side but particularly among a. Group of hardline bricks that is they really didn't like all the world in the tool and they seem. Sort of off to take a big job in the private sector with the banks of famous bankrupt some money behind the remaining campaign and that's where we were some of the people from the BRICS a Test side to be saying. I think it's safe to say I mean it's not unusual top civil servant for German hay with the late more Heywood his cabinet secretary famously took some time out from the Civil Service went to work at a bank you came back was by many people as an example of how all sides benefit and there's some suggestion that only Robins may be doing a similar journey because the someone said he's a civil servant thing that. Away from. A T N T The phone giant is under some pressure from an activist shareholder Yeah big story in the world of telly of management who very well known for being outspoken and as you say activist would they take stakes in companies and remain silent investors they speak out in the face thing things are going wrong in the demonic changes and want to see different strategies or even sometimes. Come to breakup or will be sold or something different they've taken a $3200000000.00 stake in the telecoms group 18 T. Which is also may not be so well known under that guy's overhead but it is now I think people would know as a company that took over Time Warner. Based media company but which is called global interests all over all over the world producing the people who gave you Game of Thrones and such like and that is saying that it's worked out to. Britain a lesson to the board and they want to. See some better performance they feel that the company has not done well and that it's missed out on some. Such as I had a chance to buy Team Obama us. Mobile subsidiary of the German. Telecom group but didn't get that together. So that's a sort of sign of the poor strategic management and basically. Put the slide put them on notify think. Responded by saying actually listen a lot of this criticism is irrelevant because some of the things they raise we're already working on getting indication of just the type of pressure that very big companies can face when you get new shareholders coming and you've got a very sort of clear idea of what they think. Becoming on. A slight bloody nose for Vladimir Putin in recent elections in Moscow indeed a rebuke I think is how we put it basically they have local elections in Russia. And a mixed picture in a lot of the country. United Russia Party which is Ready President Vladimir Putin's parties that have done done well odors or sort of defended his position but critically in Moscow thanks to attend school voting drives It's lost more than a 3rd of its seats in the city council it's still think it's party that has 25 out of 45 but the opposition got 20 seats and I think by any measure this is seen as sort of at least it's a significant expression of protest Moscow's over the boy is going to be more important than some of the provinces or the provincial cities where United Russia can still say look we did very well there was one or 2 places where they didn't do so well but it still is a few and far between and I think the reason people are looking at this quite closely is you know only one level you can look at President Putin and Russia and actually well you know many other countries perhaps our own included undergoing a period of time limit here to sort of be in a position of strength Russia has to reposition itself on the political stage particular through. The conflict in Syria where it's perceived to have come out of this is perhaps putting it cynically but come out of it quite well on both of those positions but others are saying actually take a bit of a closer look look what happened back in Russia the economy is not such good shape the state of the polity in the country is not in great shape and there is rising sort of dissatisfaction critically also among the middle classes with the way things are going and this may be sort of an indication I don't think you can hang too much on it. Local elections it's not a uniform performance for the opposition across the country but it's not to be dismissed. Fred Sherman. Try again to get through to Georgia where they have a new prime minister here Dmitri Hello good morning good morning Rod Yes we've got the new prime minister his name is a good idea. But I have to he's quite a controversial figure up until recently he was the country's interior minister and there is an ongoing protest against him in his role as the interior minister and to explain this I have to take you back to June. June the 20th actually this is when there was a huge massive anti Russia protest here in Tbilisi the capital. It was triggered by the presence in the country of a group of Russian M.P.'s They came here. You know by the invitation of the Georgian government they carry that kind of this is some kind of organization called the Assembly of orthodox law make this so Russian M.P.'s were part of the assembly and one M.P. So they were in the George in Parliament. And. Communist he took the seat of the. Speaker of Georgian palm and and he addressed this assembly in Russian so what we saw was the Georgian opposition wrapped in Georgian flags and cheering this meeting and you know like really protesting against this and immediately within hours we had thousands of people outside parliament protesting against this incident and people were just insulted because of course we have to remind people that George is a country that had a war with Russia back in 2008 so. This was people just they were just outraged they couldn't understand how on earth you know. An M.P. From an enemy country sitting in the most important seat in the legislature and addressing this somebody in Russian language so it was a big big protest on the 20th of June which unfortunately and it ended quite badly it was peaceful to begin with but then there were attempts to storm the parliament building and in response the police opened fire they used tear gas they used rubber bullets and about 240 people were injured some of them lost their eyes. They were hit by these rubber bullets and who was in charge of the police at the time it was Mr Goh Heidi who is now the new prime minister Prime Minister so there was a massive protest the following day and it went on and on and on and roared this was I think this was like the biggest mass expression off until Russia feelings that I have witnessed here I've been living here for over 5 years and of course we're familiar with how people feel but this was Kool-Aid. A kind of display to you know there was a stage outside parliament and few days it was like an open mike and people were coming out and talking about how they feel about. Putin and his policies in their country and of course a lot of reference to George's last territories. Game designed a little bit like Ukraine isn't it. Happens there is in a sense that people people you know took to a stage and you know started these kind of rolling meetings. Absolutely and and in fact that war 5 day war back in 2008 many Georgians were convinced you know when Ukraine fled up in 2014 there was saying that you know if the international community if the world paid more attention at what happened here in Georgia in 2008 maybe Ukraine would not have happened. Because it was the same Georgia attempted to retake control over one of its territories it's called Sophos Asia and to Russia retaliated there were Russian tanks rolling into the Georgian territory. So what I witnessed these June was that you know all of that is still those feelings are still so rule among Georgians and it was just they just had this kind of platform to express how they feel and I mean it was all mixed up of course the main thing was how they feel about Russia and in fact I have to mention this that the reaction from Moscow was very swift immediately or Putin made an order and he pants direct flights to Georgia and all of it was happening at the height of the 2 reason season so there was a projection of 1500000 Russian tourists coming to Georgia and of course all of that kind of you know changed because none of them came to the the seaside after all. Will stop some of them did because there is a there's another wrote land border that you can cross but it's much kind of longer route and you know you have to drive it's is much easier for families for people much more convenient of course to fly direct but a lot of people had to cancel their seaside holidays you're absolutely right and they facts on the Georgian economy of course really bad. The national currencies falling values falling and economists they were saying the projection was that the last of the economy is going to be something like $350000000.00 U.S. Dollars So this this is all been happening throughout the summer and it's been really really hard and at the at the center of this. Well one of the one of the kind of key government officials is these Minister former interior minister guity go Heidi or so people have been protesting for weeks calling for his resignation because they wanted somebody to be responsible for the 240 people who were injured but I must mention among those 240 there were 80 policeman and over 30 journalists but still the people who lost their eyes especially when 11 go 18 year old girl she was well you know just passing by on Luka and very very tragic story for her that she lost an eye so this became a symbol for protest as they were turning out with I patches and on those I patches 20 percent written these 20 percent is the reference to the Georgian territory that is as they say occupied by Russian troops these Sophos it's an appositive to break away tears or yeah yeah you mentioned I mean that's a real flashback when you talk about South A sets here but but things there are pretty tense again at the moment. A Get out of court yes yes yes there's another so in organist it was the anniversary of the war that I've just been talking about on the 8th of August and just before the age of organists in some of those villages that are close to south so suffocates in school that there's a division line and Safa satans refer to it as the state border but of course Georgians don't recognize. That state would have because they think it's you know their territory so on the Georgian side they call it an administrative boundary line so some of the villages will cop on the 7th or 8th or for August and they found that their gardens are now on the other side there's a barbed wire. You know cutting across their land and this process which Georgian school board there I say Sion it's been going on for many years now you know people say they wake up and suddenly their garden is you know now Bogardus and Russia God and he's in Russia absolutely and though that's so-called border east patrolled by their Russian troops because there are lots of Russian military bases both in South and in the PIs you know. So so even in in in in response Georgian authorities they decided to install a police checkpoint in one of those villages so the South or satans got really angry and at the end of. August things were heating up when the Safa set in separate in our teammates and towards Georges if you don't remove it by 6 AM the next morning things will go really bad and we're aware you had to. Follow that story later thank you so by. This. Hello it's 5 o'clock this is morning reports on 5 Live I'm Stuart Clarkson opposition M.P.'s have staged a short sittin in the House of Commons overnight refusing to leave the chamber to go to the House of Lords for the ceremony to close parliament they were called to the upper house by Black Rod Smith speaker a lot of the authorized. Much is made to declare to declare war Lisette law passed by both houses and to also declare the prior great. Desire the presence of this honorable house. The. M.P.'s held up sheets of paper with silenced written on them here's the S.N.P. M.P. . We were not going to proceed through to the Lords but we wanted to make our voices hared that we were unhappy so there was a short period where it was just a vacuum and nothing was happening so some song you know we pushed into song the Scottish members the S.N.P. Member sung Scots were he some Welsh members paint us from played and leave out also sang a Welsh song I think there was also at one point Slade of Scotland and Jerusalem being sung state by state and it was all in good humor the procreation followed the final vote of the parliamentary session ending in another defeat for the prime minister and peace didn't back Boris Johnson's call for a snap general election these government will not to marry Brick City any crowd we will not allow the emphatic good into the referendum to be slowly suffocated by progress was it. Was and while the opposition run from their duty to answer to those who put us here they cannot hide forever Here's the Labor leader Jeremy Coben I hope the Prime Minister will reflect on the issue of progress and shutting down Parliament to avoid a government being held to account because that is exactly what he has done today and proposes to do to this country so what happens for the next 5 weeks our political correspondent is Jessica Parker Well in this case we will see Party conferences say the. Parties will gather in various spots around the country politicians will make big set piece speeches for their party faithful in some cases policies will be decided but of course there's going to an awful lot going on behind the scenes as well because this isn't just a normal party conference season M.P.'s are acutely conscious that when they come back on October 14th they'll just be a touch over 2 weeks to go before that 31st of October deadline and as we've learnt over the last week for sure a majority of M.P.'s are against a no deal Breck's it so you've got to think that they will be making preparations to try and take Boris Johnson all.

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