Thank you. Pink get the party started on B.B.C. Radio. Memorably for whatever it was that one Christmas remember yeah. My chat with Jack Chantry former from the county. Is in his benefit his testimonial year as it was to ship laughing spent 10 years with them really good service. But. Then he wanted a back injury as many sportsmen he's been faced rather earlier in life than the rest of us with it with the necessity of changing careers but he wants to stay in the game of cricket has been a media work as well but he's decided and then. To become an. Why on earth would you become a match official Well that's exactly what I asked him I know yeah well actually I was always interested in umpiring from probably halfway through my career saw 5 or 6 years in I was thinking about getting into it and I did my courses then you know and then when I retired the I had some spare time this is a fast track because you've been a player yeah a little bit there is that I'm certainly I'm ahead of where I would be had I not played professional cricket some of the national panel at the moment OK panel of about 70 empires the top domestic leagues and then Minor Counties matches and 2nd team matches as well but still a long way behind the 1st class empires who are doing sort of international matches in professional games what's the difference when you walk out on to the pitch as an umpire and the 1st time you did it again we've had a conversation about all the weird things happen when you retire that must be up there with the strangest with you know all of us and you have got the whites on but you've got the coat on and the pebbles in your pocket or whatever they used Yeah my 1st ever game I forgot to count the 1st row so I was only in part as a league division 3 match I think it was guys more nervous from pairing that I was for playing most of my games was to 60 or so alien to me. But I think I've picked it up fairly quickly I think because you played for a long time you know what you see in good umpires most good empires go unnoticed act like a good referee game of football you don't want to look at the umpire or notes in too much so so I think you're going on notice as important have that ability because you so experienced to pick a bowler and have that Head Start of knowing what they're going to do you know where the ball's going rather than having to as a layman try and follow it yeah I think if you see a bowler set up a batsman he might ball 3 or 4 metres in a row and they are going to try and get there we don't believe you are primed for that so there are that those kind of things there but also think a lot of a lot of it is relationships and managing players well so. Not being too sort of a set for us and dictating terms of play but just using it or soft power in the way you talk to people if you impart a new one you know yet yeah my 1st match this season was worst. She's 2nd team and I was I'm part by I was I'm paring my former captain and housemate Jolie. Is coming back he played you got injured last year is coming back to full fitness playing a 2nd team game and the 1st over of the match he was actually batting at the other end for me and he nicked nicked a ball to the keeper and I was about to get him out but luckily he walked right. By today I give him out having having been there you know I kept in the year before if you've given him a dodgy L.B.W. That. Doesn't Now what do you what do you see is as the future because I imagine as a sportsman you have a certain mindset I'm guessing you want to do Test matches and World Cups and all of that absolutely yeah I would love to and I think it's a long way away at the moment and there are a lot of very very good umpires ahead of me but that's certainly the aim I think one thing that excites me is as a player I had a little bit of a glass ceiling I didn't bowl particularly fast as about 75 miles an hour you think basically entry level to play Test matches is 8384 miles an hour so I was never no matter how hard I worked I was never going to be an international cricketer do you feel that that's right by the way the obsession with pace or is there is there a place for medium pace Well there certainly is that we saw the way call in the ground on your shoulder and suddenly exactly the ball turnovers what 2 for 20 ball incredibly well yeah so there is a place for it I certainly think. Players who bowl a little bit faster have an advantage but there it we shouldn't certainly as time Curran is a good example bowls probably on the cusp of 80 miles an hour but we'll have success over his career I think for England in English conditions so I think we have a bit of an obsession with pace but I certainly see where it's coming from. Yeah so I would never have made it as an international player but with Empire and it's basically it's concentrating knowing the laws maintaining good relationships and making sure you know your players well and then the sky's the limit so I don't think straight empires when you're a player very well very well I was very resilient Yeah I was I was very respectful of that I'd always ask if I had an L.B.W. Appeal I'd ask what was. What was wrong with it if I was given not I What was it missing I look for feedback. But I think it's a classic case of poacher turned game because I know when a bowler comes to me and says or what's wrong with it you get your ready with your answer watch and you know about what the ball was mine say is. So yeah I'd certainly think I'd like to think that I know what the ball was feeling I'm always staggered by the amount of not just professional sportspeople elite sportspeople who have a tenuous at best grasp of the rules of their own spore did you know the rules inside out when you were playing because you will now no not inside at all no even there was actually there's been a big debate over the World Cup final on Sunday we have your warning of 6 runs or was it 5 runs and I think even now there's disagreement some entire force come out that it should've been 5 other umpires comments which have been sick so it's I think that's there's a comma actually the way the comma is in that particular law whether whether or not the comma in the it could well be I don't overstate the case it could well be that comma has one in the world liar so I. Won't know the exact last the sort of freak occurrence where you almost Somebody get me a book yeah get me the rule because you know having to make that decision on the heart but it's it's actually it's to do with grammar and whether or not the clause relates to the previous wording before the comma or whether it relates just to that particular course of it's you know. So a grammar expert and to know what that particular law is it's a tough one on the umpire ring are you how do you give out a you quite an intense finger up or because everyone's got their own style I think you know they have it's a bit like a Goal Celebrations you practice in front of the mirror. Well you laughs I think some do so you go to yeah I think with the series are you going to be a bit with confidence exactly right yeah I did well as the famous one who did it really slowly was Rudy Kerr Yeah so you never really saw a sloth you know you'd think you'd survive as an expert moment yappy and then you thought of anything to start the car being are now it's game over I think you. 10 to as long as you're consistent way a couple of seconds maybe and then make your decision so you give yourself time to take everything into consideration before you make a decision to get some who will give it very quickly in the past so just depends now you obviously made that transition from Shropshire through Worcestershire which is a very well trodden path now I went in at Barnard last season and sort of split in about the same sort of thing is it important to you because you benefit year is this year to unite the 2 sort of sides of your career. Yeah like you say it wasn't that well trodden a few years ago James Taylor was one of the 1st to do it myself Jolie at Barnard there's a few have come through preschool. Not myself included extras of state school people I interviewed James Anderson It sure is critical he walked in he went quote you exactly as I was a few expletives and then he said the Lancashire in their ass again easing place now it's phenomenal. Yeah they're incredibly lucky the kids who go there they've got a very good. Coach my brothers actually coaches should be school. Was going to he's not very going as he's very good very very good chance to make it with those. Facilities in spite of his. Not because of an. Important one to have that pathway to the 1st class came because we're a minor county if you like but also to to make sure that the game is as healthy in these sorts of places it can be to you absolutely yeah I feel very passionately that the next generation should come through from any and anywhere in the country with part of testimonial year chance to shine or one of my chosen charities who help promote the game in state schools I think it's a huge part and we had that the match on Sunday was free to air which was very important you know and it'll you know I remember watching the Ashes in 2005 as an impressionable teenager and that made an impact on me so having the game accessible to so many people be it in Shropshire or any part of the country are. Important in a moment and to make sure the game is in good health for many years to come and having the facilities around my school games being on red Gras you know when you just think chance of you need the facilities and you need you need that access because it does have a reputation of being a. Posh boy sport doesn't it in a lot of ways you know it does. Public school private school peoples are massively overrepresented in professional sport even now. So it's a challenge for whether it's government level or the level of volunteers getting involved at a local school or but it's an important thing to do and you know have have we can help it's probably our job to help as former players to your best mates been in cricket who do you anticipate still keeping in touch contact with in 1520 years. With my captain housemate as well for a couple of years he'd be up there Charlie Morris myself enjoy each other a good sort of bowling Partnership for a number of years it was to shift so there'd be the kinds of people Alan Ritchson as well as current bowling coach it was to share one of the more the nicest guys in cricket although all the boys are westernised and a lot of time with so you know people keep in touch for a long time can you text James Taylor and so I wrote he's got start the after issue and. I can put a message in for We've got him the event in college and. September 19th so yeah you can ask him yourself there if you pick any more boring openness we're going to get after Would you have Roy and they would YOU for the things that you have it's been a problem position hasn't it yes certainly has go and I mean for the 1st Test at least and until where you know 38 for 5 I'm panicking and then we start picking a load blockers but for the 1st morning at least gone go walk a fair and it would be exciting to watch I would. Tuning into that you know your commentary and you know as well. Yeah that's going to you Bill put weight on doing that to somebody who's done it with all the T.'s and everything yeah yeah you know I do enjoy it though it's good yeah broadcasting live it's a bring something out you doesn't it yeah. It's a challenge and it's sort of it's life so you know you don't get a 2nd goes don't so how do you take into that and I always say it's interesting when you put sportsmen who probably had some quite unkind things said about them over the years in the media and then you give them the microphone how do you kind of. I think I did take to it some with relish just stuck his eyes in everyone left right and center Yeah I don't want to forget how hard the game is because you know there's there's plenty of people who can criticize. The players but you know it's it's a tough game and with that it's finding that balance been entertaining and being fair to the people who you know are playing I think probably a lot of people do strike that balance as been fantastic commentators and there's a few who are probably a little bit caricatural it like in the criticizer want to get the headlines the next day so it's it is fun it's striking that balance but making sure the listener enjoys enjoys the broadcast as well as what does a benefit year entitle. So I've had an opening dinner so far a few charity matches but one more charity match to come read it in August August the 16th that is at Redditch. And then the big Lord's Dinner as well Lord's and in October which will be in the long room I've got David Gower as a guest speaker lovely So yes it's going far this big want to college and September the 19th with Nick Hancock and James Taylor the 3 course meal and see James Taylor we talking about our Ashes win hopefully to come you know the World Cup when he retired very young has that helped knowing people who've been through it with your transition I haven't actually spoken to him about his retirement or about mine I think we all know that we have that looming over us at some point that it's not going to last forever and to enjoy our time while it lasts but as I was saying earlier James Taylor was of a far more talented person talented batsman than I was bowler and he retired far younger so you know it's I was lucky to get 10 years out of it and. Great to see James doing so well nowadays as the instructor I always like asking people who made it maybe but it's a fair way down the order most frightening experience with the butt. Facing fastball is normal to face fast bowlers bowling at their head I don't know enjoys it still getting up quite high in fairness to. Steve Harmison managed. Quite easily and on a number of occasions what's that like what you see him tearing in and you just thing you know you're not such intend your technique isn't that it's not the sort of thing where you can go back myself to you know play all of these you are that I imagine terrified. Yeah what's that there's a quote about that courage is not feeling fear something is feeling. With it regardless I think that was probably I want to describe me I would say I was courageous if a sportsman could be crazy I wouldn't go out the way and sort of hide from the ball or try and stay that. B.S. You'd much rather face a spinner as I'd much rather face a little slow deadly double up. All women harms involved at 95 miles an hour at my head I remember a show about coming and playing club cricket on the way back from injury and I knew a lot of play from Newport and he said I just I didn't so much duck as I just fell on the floor. Yeah it's one of those what's the plan for the winter and the some of the next phase of your career so for the winter I'll be in some coaching hopefully preschool. And then you're on par and commentating with the 2 main ones trying to stay within the game I think as I said earlier that's there's a lot of very good empires you still love it as much as ever cricket yes I do yeah it's probably a different relationship now finished playing and probably. My head more than my heart was in the part of a very sort of. I wouldn't white line fever I'd certainly be very competitive on the pitch you have to be a bit less I'm going to say selfish with family and things like that as well that because sports people have to be you know I can't go out on certain days I've got a match the next day I can't do the hoovering So I've got to wrap. It in more hoovering So yeah a lot of the downsides of retiring say that I couldn't do any housework and that's not going to Washington. So yeah it's a it's bit of. A jolt back down to earth but I love the time I played cricket and I'm loving my time now very lovely guy Jack Chantry whose brother was a great cricketer as well played for played was coaching at Shrewsbury goal. Shan't tree if I put Northamptonshire did the Adam and Jack was in the was to his side dad was a 1st class cricketer as well local cricketing family and well he's back in the area and becoming an umpire and trying to put something back into the game doing a bit of commentary as well really great to have him on the show tonight that's brave isn't it going from player to buy that is the definition of poacher turned gamekeeper great news coming in from Pristina the capital city of Kosovo where the new saints of all straight playing. In the Champions League tonight they are the champions of Wales Of course it was 22 from the 1st leg on aggregate it is now 32 because I've taken the lead in Kosovo Dean ab substitute has had it in a cross from Simon spender that puts the Saints $32.00 up on aggregate that means they would be going through this thing stand to play F.C. Copenhagen in the next stage of the Champions League a goal for Farron a callee the cost of inside changes everything but at the moment the new STS one nil up away from home are heading through in the Champions League with 15 minutes to go Can they hold on. I'll let you know. Some changes in the meantime a scallop. Without you. I was sad to see you calling. I'm breaking up. The chancellor and I think it's to. Come last time. I last like The Truman Show. B.B.C. Radio. 11 What she didn't was seen on the subway I'm afraid I can't. Watch telly yet Yeah actually when you look back at it you realize how important it was but at the time it was just fascinating for 16 years of. Being alone Pinsky it's all too well actually mankind has done a lot of very loud wasn't clear but it was just just absolutely amazing unbelievable really never sleep results that you get pictures. That. You can help solidify anti-ship to see the life yeah I remember the old small S. Yes yes. Watching history in the Magic Carpet I will never see a like they. Are. On To feel that. Way to teach. Don't feel like crying on B.B.C. Radio Shropshire 9 she's no wage and I thought she was Danish and I was going to do a link about 10 S in Denmark but the fact she's no wage and I've just looked that up has frankly ruined it so I will just say it is still one nil to the new saints in Kosovo tonight $30.00 on aggregate they are leading with less than 5 minutes of normal time to go if they hold on the going to Copenhagen which is hence my my scan the link that never was never mind it's wasted now I probably should have been by then mentioning it but I was so proud of. Anyway if tennis hold on they are going through the next stage of the Champions League but elsewhere in sport the weekend where it's all about cricket tennis netball World Cup the British Grand Prix was on as well but it was also the 133rd Wenlock a limpy and games taking place in much one of the home of the modern Olympic movement of course and B.B.C. Radio shops as Paul Shuttleworth had a chat with a visitor from Japan and the man behind the event Chris can only archivists the Wenlock limpin society your event took place yesterday with every major sporting events in the world the Cricket World Cup there was the 10 nice Wimbledon men's final but also the weather when luckily it wasn't the best of days to have a sporting event but of course this was the 133rd when locking in playing games and we had events going on and of course people are very loyal and all our volunteers turned out and the day was very very successful we are proud to keep the addition going and the history around when luckily musicals everything was brought to a highlighting 2012 when all the world's media descended on it but that's still a trend isn't it I mean the most important event we always said on the build up to 2012 was the well locking in playing games 2013 because we have a game to say I knew all the Olympic Games and we were determined that the tradition would carry on beyond after the whole a balloon of London and so we are still continuing today and so we're very proud of the traditions and making sure that healthy living taking exercise the vision of William penny Brooks is being carried forward in this area to this day Tokyo will be our next Olympics and there's a lot of interest in what's happening here and when look from Tokyo we have 6 professors from Japan of sports history and exercise and they are members of the choke OG Tokyo Organizing Committee of the Olympic Games I asked one of the professors and he said I've wanted or my life to come to the place where the modern Olympics Games start. It and then 3 months ago Tokyo 2020 for an academic to research the vision of William penny Brooks and how that impacts on the Olympic movement today so you can see that Japan has taken a great great interest in the history of the games. I had a daughter who's researching the history the Olympics he's just written a book in Japanese on the origins of the Olympic Games and of course the 1st part was much Wenlock shops and the Wenlock Libyan society and its founder William Petit Brooks Oh I just. The community activity is in England so this is quite interesting and important for example so here today there's a walking to health event lots of people going at a price. And the system is wonderful so pretty prescription. Yes yes yes I'm coming back to Japan and I report this exercise and what the comparison to how community exercise of the over sixty's in Japan to what it is here. This is this is super compared to Japanese system right I think. This example it's from a country what was it that made you come to well look for a. 10 K. . So yes I run yeah yeah and how I was the 10 K. Around the shop she didn't write. Almost faded out. Yeah. What do you think to the fact that the history around the Olympics here when lock in such a tiny little village you know. So they had this spirit. Pure . Modern Olympic that's wonderful I really put this and the vision for the Dr was it wasn't really about the competitiveness of the medals it was back getting local people active and getting them to act. So that is the spirit how long you have 350 Yeah yes. But the stick go back to Japan and I report them. B.B.C. Radio shops just pull shuttle. Games that's 2nd professor of psychology Communications School of humanities in Japan researching how the games can help promote activity in the communities big deal worldwide fame. Titanium. Have done a. 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