About an hour like to his next of kin I've been informed place I haven't yet made any arrests although inquiries to contain a 15 year old boy died on Thursday in Bellingen in south east London a paraplegic man suing Luton Airport after dragging him self along the floor because his self-propelling wheelchair was left behind on a flight just in living was offered an assisted wheelchair he refused because he was worried about precious sauce and wanted to be independent his the Paralympic champion Dame Tanni great homes in Luton Airport shows a complete lack of understanding of what it means to an individual person it's not OK just to stick someone in that chair and push them through what will happen when he got his own home how would he manage them will be allowed to take their share with them and actually raises so many issues and questions around how we respect disabled people and how we treat them in society Luton airport says it satisfied with its response. 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Radio I find live boxing I I welcome back to 5 Live boxing with Costello advance and this week as well as reviewing the weekend's events we reflect on the specter of death in the ring and how the aftermath affects those involved yes boxes that can come back in boxes that never fully recovered back in 3rd grade experiment was in a death fight with Scott West golf this Friday he's back in action and we here at length from that Spellman later in the show as he rebuilds his career more than 8 months on and preparing for his appearance in the ultimate box atonement in London this weekend as Steve says also this week Robert Smith from the British Boxing Board of Control gives us the board's perspective on the rules and regulations on Drug Abuse and white miking in response to what we heard from the president of the W.B.C. Mercédès Superman a few weeks ago on the podcast but we begin with a review of another busy weekend assessing Huey Fury's defeating ball Garia tough going also for Terry Flanagan in New Orleans and Danny Jacobs staying in the mix for the big middleweight showdowns to come but Steve fury widely outpointed by. I left in a heavyweight title eliminator in Sofia involved area laughs home country fury caught in the 2nd round an old injury we learned afterwards which he sustained in training and there's been a bit of stick for him and his dad and trainer pater on line a bit of stick some odd way of putting it Mike certainly Peter fury is taking a lot more stick the PETA fury went head to head with thousands of people light on Saturday night after Hughie fury at last quite widely on points in a fight not so well off but in a fight of 2 in 10 rounds if I could fuckin be so bold as to introduce a 2 in 10 what I mean by a 2 in 10 it sounds like something you would apply in my shop doesn't it sounds like something from the fifty's Oh give us a 2 in 10 of a there now a 2 in 10 is that for 2 rounds you know he was competitive he looked like he speed and his mobility was going to cost Cuba looked in great shape some problems and then the the old cut reopen that if you got a glimpse of the car that was over for caught my eye is like a half moon on these I did absolutely dreadful pizza they went head to head with people on Twitter and it was savvy to some of the things that Peter tweeted at 24 well actually 23 Lennox Lewis term pro he lost the fight by a knockout Klitschko last 3 times by knockout and they were turned into horrifying was here we come short in 2 world level fights his future is bright he did his best on the bad circumstances he couldn't see out of the eye the ref stated he could have stopped it any time he went ahead with the fight injured did he go down was he stopped one judge had it by just 2 rounds to but then he did balance it pizza and he said if the I never went maybe the result would be the same and then he also added and this is disused this must have been hard for him to write but I believe is fully truthful I agree from the 3rd round on Woods Hughie showed nothing of note however days fights Mike Young boxes special in. Long Game hard to disagree we've all word that pizza few typed out on Saturday night I thought time Stephen and Tyson Fury his cousin tweeted and alluded to the fact after the afterwards that what Huey fury is doing at 24 is impressive but they were for me a lot of science during that fight that it was man against the boy and there is a lot for human fury to learn but I do think that there is some positive messages to take from that fight if you look at what he did when he stood his ground only for seconds at a time in the middle of the ring there is boxing ability there but he can't always show it on the ropes leaving himself under pressure so often and David Haye made a point in the studio afterwards he was working on the Channel 5 broadcast and he spoke about the right hand now the right hand that I mentioned there in the 8th round was a kind of a long looping right hand which most of the time poor left sore coming by a mile and another turned his shoulder or slipped inside or avoided it quite easily and David Haye made the point if that right hand was delivered straight it would have much more chance of getting home so a lot to take from the fight from here here e but there is for me a huge gap to preach I was kind of surprised Mike that he didn't it didn't turn that right hand slightly more and I'm wondering if I look back and some it's in my mind did you have an arm injury did you have a shoulder injury because it was almost like a defect that was looping over all of the time when the obvious combination for Poland who by the way and that until about Round 6 or 7 actually looked like he could win over or not so it was winning but actually looked like he was enjoying himself and fancied it however valuable it was 7000 people genuinely cheering you could hear him John in Poland so of atmosphere there on the night but there were moments might when when I'm waiting for you to do the same thing you just said they're not to back off the hole a bit of ground to hit him with a big straight jab and then turn the right hand not loop it over because pool of managed to avoid it in. Well but 9 out of 10 of those right hands all cite the sting out of the of most of the ones he did cite except for the ones who when he was hit in the a frown not only was he her didn't he show it the worst poker face in the world he scrunched up piece face lucky been hit to let you know and then he ran 8 feet back and hit the ropes for gold psych now the one thing that did strike me is that Anthony Joshua only froze a straight right hand he can't loop a right hand he can't go over a high guard which is why he had such a problem breaking down collars tackle he kept trying to go through the gloves instead of going around the back of the head bringing the gods around to find the gap and the gesture only froze a straight right hand we'll have to see a vastly different if that fight would happen next I pull the I was clearly the problem the fact that a referee did say could have stopped it at any point and the fact that both Peter and you he said after the fight he couldn't see out of it that has to be a Polish No it's not a defense but I might because as Peter fury said there without the eye the result could have been could have been the same so it's not it's not an absolute offense not like having a broken hand not to have a throw a right hand so it's not think so if you're judging this if we were on Strictly can imagine us that beautiful in you and on Strictly it's about it's about side at a same sex couple dancing I'm putting not putting your own eye out next time who gives a monkey's why I'm telling you if we're on Strictly and we had to be judged here and you're judging now what are we giving out 10 to to. See why you're doing it so you go back to the to untangle again oh yeah I mean I don't mean around my coming I'll probably give it a bit more I'll give it about 4 by about 4 but I'm saying there was the room there for it to be and I already know and we both agree on that in the studio on Channel 5 alongside David Haye was Derek she Zora who for. 2016 and he was asked by Paul Dempsey the presenter about her lifestyle and the one point that there is or made was that he had a fantastic job and it was the Jap that caused the cut in the 2nd round right for pinging jab Yeah on today I'm going to go with a few here open the their wounded at. They sustained in training and on that subject they carry case did a wonderful job in a corner because that was a savage cop which he had to survive 10 and a half rounds were kicked carrying a potion case he got straight up in there it took him a couple of rounds to get it under control once he had it under control he was sitting at ringside of his feet our Vick's model his face he'd earned his money let's put it that way and on that now we've had a name out from Andy Stevens who says he's new to boxing Stephen would love to hear an interview with a cup man to understand exactly what they do would be great to talk to the late 80 Thomas they Welshman who was in the water with Ken Buchanan in the past and you've got a wonderful story in your book which is being well told but it's worth repeating Well it has been well told Mike and I've heard it several times but I thought of what out there I'll get it actually from his mouth so when I was with Ken Buchanan a couple years ago I asked him about this particular case and it was just one of those casually Cajuns when a young kid from Edinburgh couldn't sell a ticket in his home country sold out Madison Square Garden a guy you know was feted by everybody went on the equivalent of chat shows on the back page of all the New York papers and in the ring he was financed by the goon Of course he'd won the title from a couple of years earlier and he suffered a cut really early in the fire really bad so they suffered a swollen swollen eye really early in a fight that is this I was going to close up he was told by the referee you're in trouble you go around there's always another way around it he looked at each of us the great Welshman in a corner and they managed to pull something out and I wish it was whether it was a knife or whether it was a race that doesn't matter what it was they slit the bruising the blood gushed out Mickey in Rocky Of course this was about 5 years before what Mickey did it to Rocky that the swelling went down Buchanan box like a breeze and became an even bigger star at the at the garden there was a there was a bad side of it there was about one bad side effect from it they went into the change room afterwards and Ken now in these I stitch because it's a terrible wound this can tell I mean. kins good at 10 in a story so he get the gets back in a chain the room and in walks the doctor a sept ken says he's a vet is not adults and he's drunk as a lot but i got to get it sticks or edit thomas in ken's fall over a holding ken down in a chair whilst these guy we've what kenny described is a big knitting needle he's basically so we not bees i anyway he did such a bad job a couple weeks like kenny was in london he bumped into job is a stead a great promotes and part of the great boxing cartel from the seventy's job is to it one look at ease i gave him wrote down a name and a doc that are doctors number in harley street sent cain straight round a harley street where they re cut it reclean dear and re stitched it so that was eddie thomas saving ken a buchanan's korea with he's cup work 3 weeks ago on the podcast we heard from the presidents of the w.b.c. Marie seo silliman he was talking about the issues of drug abuse him boxing about weight management send their plans to increase their supervision of a pox as whites in the buildout to find time robert smith the general secretary of the british boxing board of control was listening and he's being cain to reiterate what the board of been doing in those areas and robot joins us now thanks for being with us rubber let from which all month early yeah good blow yourself very good point robert i want to start with the billy joe saunas situation and and where boxing is in terms of combating drug abuse the fight against demetrius andrade was so strange in that had it been shared you ought to take place in the united kingdom it would've happened so where are we in this kind of mess Well lot of meetings. And . Telephone conference with with Valda on on Wednesday interesting meeting could start having come away with it with everything sorted but it's a start the problem we go is that as over sporting bodies in this country we are affiliated to United Kingdom antidoping who are affiliated to water which is the world and an agency and the world recognised agency that governs dull thing in the world the world of sport and the thing in mind you know we're happy with the Volga of the sea a volunteer organization are not affiliated to water they come in do a test and then ultimately we'll just hand over the results and let the that the Commission know that the sanctioning body the day with any findings exercise it is very frustrating I'm very difficult to work with and we've got. 2 procedures working along each other and I want to try to make sure that we can hold our Some common knowledge some common ground and work together in relation to the problem we have with regard to the pillagers so interesting is the term in competition testing out of competition testing with with regards to you cat or water in competition testing is testing on the evening of the bat after the bell and anything else before hand is out of competition Vada have a different they have to competition as in the training program so it could be 6 weeks it could be 4 weeks. And it was very difficult for them to pin down a period of time and marshalling is you know the things that you have one list for one proper testing and one list of banned substances for another proper testing and surely be eligible for everybody concerned which is that the one list you can speak will be speaking to 2 water with regard to that and hopefully we can come up with announcer where we're singing from the same song sheet. so on that subject rub a about drug testing and what you do in this country on a professional bucks i'm just turning out of a what what is the situation a what level do i have to reach before i come on that aid the whereabout system where i had to let you and you cat know where i am for one hour a day what stays did that come it because you can't you can't testify isn't bucks is they just know the funding they to do it so so how does it work is turnley when with rain we let you cuz there with all the testing so i don't have any influence on the who they go in tess but your generally find its people interpretive level say british trap and chips on mobile woods except you're suddenly world championships come are well chambre chips they will pick think shows he they were fairly is a right able to day and i leave it clear the of the n.t. Yeah only contact our have with regard to addresses excite is supplying where they come from or where the living i don't so booking the events full of brooking start testing full their actual farts is self but ultimately your to a look at champ which level as you're quite right where we can i think we've on the region of 1200 boxes ill be impossible to test every single box up a certainly they are that we are entitled to test everest everyone if you wished it but it we physically impossible the other issue that marie seo silliman was talking to us about on the poet cost a few weeks ago i rub it was white management in and $1.00 of the policies that they looking out and they going to introduce on i temporary basis in January of next year at the introduction a whiting a bulk so when he arrives at the arena on fight night what do you think about that and how does that affect what you do already in the build up to a fight Well we have regulation in place already that says that any board official could turn into any gym in the country away and. We keep a log of all the check which he delivers boxes for championship funds we do a check and funds renounce and then if we concerned that seem to be a bit heavy we can go into the gym any time they want to see the whites coming down sensibly and nobody is just cutting white just a CLI just a big concern that we have and then 3 days before your thought of white and yours you should be within 3 percent of the temperature was inside so we got quite a comprehensive system many years ago before we broke our and I did a study when I was just really just start with a boat where we did the writings on the dye and then on the saucer on the on the day of the official was in for the day before and then on the evening of the bat we did another Whiting we loved them and generally found that people generally were putting on $7.00 to $8.00 pounds 10 pounds on the odd occasion people really blew up but it was a quiet small percentage so we got a bit of a background on on the history of what we've been doing and we have a lease and all the boxes in championships have a log of what they want during the course of the career leading up to it but we do hope that we do send a lot of information when books turned professional that I didn't a handbook with all the information in the that dehydration chicken white chicks such are. Course that Korea they will receive other documentation and we hold seminars as well and every year it is 18 months and the sort of things to discuss we have something with you know you know if you can demand to come in and talk about drug testing we had something with the charity Mind recently we got to mental health and then we also talk about things you know what it was in relation to the tourist. Of the sea the thing with. So I think we do a great deal you cannot you know I can only lead a horse to water is up to them ultimately that we can again we can't they can't be policemen in the gyms all the time that would be impossible so you know the train is when we do a choice the circus courses I turn on a year nothing is 10 this year. Only if things are discussed the Chinas and manages it have the full responsibility as well and if they're concerned about it they should let us not. Rob that's great insight thanks for your time and see you soon. But well after fight night it was more than 3 months before Scott West gas funeral took place that was because of the nature of the inquest into his death and Dec Spelman eventually resumed his career after a 4 month break and I went to see deck last week at the home of his trainer Calgary the griefs gaff as it says outside the door Dec is preparing for the ultimate boxing event which is at the only 2 in London on Friday of this week and he told me how the haunting events of that night February 24th in Doncaster are never far from his mind and a fight that he accepts he lost it will expose were you know it depends on where you was in the 5 I know people on this side saw a bit differently for me out a bit wider some of my support said I had it back quite a bit boy me being in the 5 Personally I've always very tight 5 especially with a not downs and I probably didn't help myself to be honest in the early rounds no arguing with this is in the win us during side for the interview any inkling for you as to what might be about to happen. No I mean by the end of the 10th when the bell when they were very very unsteady on his feet for religious combat from a not down and a very a term for around and I just put it down to exhaustion we were still talking in a vision on the law and the decision got made in and got raised and it was still very unsteady but then when we come down to say the apron to do the interview and a half it was fine and we got to need a bit of an answer get over but still put that down to exhaustion you know to 10 rounds to know I mean the alarm bells ringing in my head to sort until we went back to the changing rooms so when did you 1st then become aware of the situation. It was the day after work up a few missed phone calls and it was there was no where the alarm bells ring at the time so to get told that in the modern The it was the chance of him leaving won't was not good at all was a big shock to me I mean the 1st thing the. First thing I did was kind of because I'm not really a big amount of him but every film was my social media just everything was just flooded with that cell as much as I wanted to just get me to get my head around it supports we out to kind of acknowledge that just what the airport you know I didn't I honestly didn't know what support cell to scan of port the only one new interest you know I was praying for him at the time and and just that I pored through what I didn't really know what to do to be honest did you feel the need to reach out to Scott's family because Glen closer to message me and ask are was and it was going it was in the village where the police trainer yes was shown the and then I think I got a message off Adam after law had a nice Scottsboro and scope of the and I mean what do you say I didn't know what they probably don't know what's said to me as well you know I mean they've been growing me ever since to be honest but I think it was 2 weeks after when the just out of the bit Adam said are different we should be or. We kind of go through things for me more to get to know Scott as a person instead of an opponent as a boxer and for them to get to know me as well suppose and how did you in that time come to terms with with what had happened I've spoken to a number of boxes in the past making documentaries for the B.B.C. About those who've had to come to terms with your situation the likes of Barry Macwhich and Allan mentor Richie went and all dealt with it very different ways how did you come to terms with the fact that a man you chaired the ring with lost his life. Yeah. I think these dates that bus that now. Anyway are counted so positive I was name on the SARS you have guys initials on Matisse that's probably where in the next weekend and I'm just to just . Pull his name out there because our other way of looking at it is you know he beat me so square so if you are going to do now it was potentially able to do as well so you know up and only That's the only way I can kind of sound good live on that they have heard different approaches as well from the boxes I'm talking about concerning the attendance at the funeral Dale Evans for example went to Mike tells you no but Richie went and said that he couldn't go to Bradley Stone's few no did you go to Scott's for you know yes me and developed a very very bad day and you know it's a long time before the funeral came as well and we follow a special thing was to not be in the gym up until the hour so we wait for the funeral it was half a Maybach you know I could just get thinking you know about his family and and what they're going through so they're the funeral and they're deformed a couple of weeks after law and that I did that as well mom a lot buy him a girlfriend next time now what was your attitude because again talking about one of those that I spent a Richie went to in his 1st fight after the tragic one against probably stone actually turned away after 5 rounds against Neil swines What was your attitude going in when you thought he drank ski lecky from the Czech Republic I mean it was just about getting back in the ring and see what feel and the hours per about that night was the night he self and doing the ring walk in to me honest soon as I got further up I felt like you know like I should off and if there's any doubt in my mind leave Not that are you know I want to don't and I've got think the most safety before if an hour so yeah I felt God felt bullied in order to ensure a need and it was a bit of a low key fight and that if I'm on it was that deliberate. Yeah to be honest looking back on it I'm glad it was because I didn't want to ruin a big thing made of its vilest and the other way now when I'm in a bad position now because if it had been such a big thing on a big massive stage you know it can crumble you know and I'm glad it didn't and next are you taking part in the 2nd version of out I'm a boxer looking at the records you would have an outstanding chance it seems yeah yeah but you know it especially to formalize this records are not really going to commit supply there's always a couple are now obviously the best situation the physical straight are probably ever been in so I feel really God and is going to go for him or be will be alert it struck me as well they're listening to your interviews at ringside immediately afterwards virtually the last words that left his mouth were we just wanted to put on a show and entertain the crowd it just goes to show that sometimes in trying to entertain someone pays the ultimate price and that's just about it for this week's we've read out some emails earlier on keep them coming Costello on balance of B.B.C. Doco dot U.K. And the itunes reviews as well finishing this week with a tweet from Curtis wood ousts on the night that Scott West Garth and Dec Spellman met in their tragic contest in Doncaster Woodhouse wish edgel to be on top of the bill that night but he tweeted later on sometimes with all the hype around boxing you forget how dangerous the sport is and that's why we have such respect and admiration for the men who make ringside so compelling so daunting and even haunting That's it from 5 boxing with Castellan pants. So I was. On digital B.B.C. Sound small stage but this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live the B.B.C. News headlines only 5 live. A British funeral will be held for less to cities. In Thailand later he died with further people in his helicopter crashed outside the club Stadium last weekend. Details of emerged about the plans for diplomatic presence in the U.K. Post break says they include a delegation in Belfast oversee the withdrawal agreement in Northern Ireland if it deal is reached it's a merger around $10000.00 automated Twitter accounts have been shut down in the last 2 months they were sending messages seemingly from Democrats urging people not to vote in the U.S. Midterms next week and a ticket holder when the entirely jackpot in last night's you Millions draw a total of 76300000 pounds it's the biggest win since July when Aberdeen couple were nearly 58000000 pounds but the sport now has to instead it Bernie and head coach Neil Lennon says he may reconsider his position after being struck with a coin during Wednesday's controversial Edinburgh Darby Lennon believes he suffers what he calls on see Catholic racism in Scotland you call it sectarianism here in the skull McAleese says I'm. 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It was an easy decision to make and and like I said it wasn't just a couple of players in that we need to play we need to play it was the unanimous decision every single player and staff member come out and said we need to play this game we want to play the bass exactly what former Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner has been sentenced to 50 days in jail in Denmark for assaulting a taxi driver he's appealed and was released until the hearing at a higher court Aston Villa made it back to back home wins and a manager Dean Smith with a 2 nil victory against Bolton at Villa Park in the Championship Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic will face each other in the last 4 of the Paris Masters after their quarterfinal wins last night Federer defeated came in she Corey in straight sets and joke of each $12.00 sets to one against Marion chill H Chris Ashton is set to make his 1st England appearance for 4 years after being called up to the bench for today's opening autumn international get South Africa he replaces Manu to a language he has been forced to pull out with a small strain his England scrum coach Neil Hathaway is bringing that actually you know you made you made a big called comeback from 2 lawn where life was very comfortable for him made a huge court comeback off the discussion with Eddie So it's gone on record really he wants to be involved for the World Cup even brilliant training worked really hard so fantastic opportunity for coming back in Justin Rose starts his 3rd round at the Turkish open later this morning with a 2 shot lead on 12 on the par so what will it take for Rose to successfully defend his title is the mentality you need to play well here obviously I played catch up here last year and other guys are capable of doing that this year I think you know as I've got to 65 as you can always have somebody from the chasing pack to the same thing so for me it's about keeping moving forward this week you know even past not really going to get it done so you kind of you have to have the mentality of keep moving forward on day one of the 35th Breeder's Cup fixture at Churchill Downs racecourse in Kentucky line of juicy written by Jackie William Buick survived a lengthy stewards inquiry to win the juvenile turf race the 2 year old colt. Straight at Newmarket by Charlie Appleby the Shaikh Mohammed could dolphin operation and the Roberson takes on Jack was asking this morning for a place in the final of snow international championships in China and that's the latest from B.B.C. Sport. Should. His newest podcast. Is. Nothing like it before the classic American story of a religious cult gone wrong exclusively. In half an hour in its Chris Warburton and Oldroyd But before that Robbie Savage looks back on a difficult week for football and head to this weekend is recorded yesterday simply don't call or text piece by piece it is Craigslist. Good morning there is a bit of a different start to the shore today alongside me christen a Matthew Saeed Nigel Cliff Joe Thomas and I My mother will be joining us later on but before we look at it this weekend I wanted to look back at was be a terrible week for football I was devastated when I heard the terrible news that their owner V.H.I. Seawater not propose to members of his staff the pilot and a passenger were all killed in the helicopter crash all our thoughts go out to their families and friends obviously have a huge attachments unless the city a play for the club for 5 years and they gave me a chance to play in the Premier League we all followed the remarkable season 2 years ago when they beat 5000 to one odds to win the Premier League and 1st secrets of Matthew was beaten in Maysan thing to see is out the whole football community has come together after this tragedy absolutely robbed him of. I think that. The city of Leicester rear of obviously being in shock this week and you know they are still grieving and as as an hour and this is from the outside looking in similarities to him and the owner a black man Jack Walker was when I was in the fight that he had a relationship with the players with the community and they brought so much to Leicester City and I mean as been a you know a really shocking week and I think called you know his word just a word he spoke extremely well the result of the week and is insignificant and in our last as a club in the papers Lester will need a lot of time to get over this as Christos to their mouth you know what I did for less is that is a club also the impact they made with the fans and in the community was just incredible this interest in rock morning Chris I mean I'm a for me football is a fascinating sport the rivalries are fierce it's a sport characterized by partisanship underlying it all the really deep truths about football and this is. An incredibly difficult week is football is also a community it's a community is a sport and it's not just left the City fans and people who follow the club who have been devastated by what happened but there's been incredible messages of support from other clubs but also that link between the club and its own city I mean that's how football started in its early meaning of football was a little community institution link a football club with the people who lived in it's the center city and I think that has come across really powerfully to it's been a very very difficult week the result was insignificant but for me that's the one feel the lining it's really shown the strength of solidarity I'm and Chris and I are watches and I was here trying to carry out his father's big visions and dreams for the clubs over the legacy put in place will carry on. Yeah. You know I think that. Lester you know the only time to build again and you know hopefully the continuity will continue Leicester City and they can move forward as a club and that the result will be insignificant at the weekend because you know lesser say they'll be travelling to Wales to play Cardiff and in the words of their manager club pro-Al on of the man who did so much for them I just want to say once again our thoughts are with the family and friends this weekend and everyone at Leicester City many of many of you will also know they have to my BT Stevie show Glenn Hoddle was taken seriously ill he is currently in hospital receiving treatment and has been responding well I know Glen very well want to send them and his family all our best wishes and we're all keeping our fingers crossed that a mix of full recovery I just wanted to acknowledge the amazing way the whole BT Sport scene responded especially our sound supervisor who gave Glen sepia use a defibrillator and probably saved his life. Chris you know you know Glenn Well such a popular figure in the world of football I was just told how many get well messages he received the love he had of a football community coming together yeah absolutely you know Glen was a fantastic player. Had a falling out with him out of the England stuff which I was you know pretty ashamed of myself but subsequently here in the essence of stop flying over to an Oakland pretty well and they say he's a lovely lovely man. A gentle man a man you know I have a lot of respect for and when it was you know shocking really shocking what happened. Last week and it's good and is a recovering and you know these things will obviously take time but it was a you know it. Had Saturday last Saturday and I suppose you know the fact that claim is on the mend is you know fantastic news and you know the Sunni gets back to to help to better our Massy you you run a column about Glenn you know glowing tribute to him as a footballer you watched of Glenn lost and was glad as a player and water player he was all the water an incredible player I think he's one of the few true creative geniuses to emerge from English school in my lifetime for me the best player he's ever lived one thing that struck me Robbie is that he was so creative and he had such an intricate imagination slide rule passes the interplay his touch on the ball I think with a lot of people in the English game which at the time was all about a muscular conception of football supposed to tackle get muddy and dash around page people quite suspicious of him and I felt that Bobby Robson should build the England around him I think it's a shame that he didn't but at a human being I had a. It was a charity event a table tennis charity event. And I asked if he would come along he came with his wife he spent the whole evening talking to the kids and a few days later was a handwritten letter saying how much he enjoyed it and offering to do anything he could in the future interactions I had with Glenn Hoddle as a Carson as a human being there are very few better than me I'm sure you Chris Matthew and the whole football a nation will. Say Get well soon Glenn the time is 8 30 am listen to Robbie Savage is Premier League breath 1st now let's talk about the Premier League and let's start with Spurs. Oh I was I was what's the game here like Chris the defeat to Manchester City and as in you got a lot of stick on social media today in our good lady there page it was like I'm the only president. Listen I'm a Wrexham fan their page is like a cap it so for the city spreads like next hour for this pretty hard so disrespectful CHRISTOPHER Well listen to you Matthew coming on the fam I guess it was a liar what I was trying to emphasize is the wimpy pitch was in good order did I get my words corrected Probably not I realize I offended hundreds. And staff over the country but this is Wimberly you expect a better page I apologize if I've offended. Grier's when people but why does everybody get so offended I think the majority of people knew my point drop even yourself. By don't normally pitchers as well Chris let me just throw something to Chris and Robbie watching that game the other my one was struck by the fact that you know in hotels state pitches were Monday they were pockmarked it must've been so difficult to execute really intricate skills if you didn't know how the ball was going to bounce but how significant is it psychologically run a pitch and the ball isn't behaving in the way that you've come to expect on every other pitch and play well for me it doesn't matter what the pitch is like in all the ball was always probably. The same for you can. Realize I tell you it was impressive on the on Monday night it was the wise and Matthew touch on the white both teams still got the ball down and and try to apply in the correct manner you know sort of rather than in my dogs in the backyard but no that was. You know that was really impressive. Same. It is the wealth of the called. Uncle. 7 rob several. Schools for girls facing little dog like you. So. High read I was furious with Gary revels comments saying spinelessness last year in the past 30 years about Spurs you know what did you make of those comments well you know I think Nevels a great very little extra popular there I agree it is good enough to get passionate and he made some really cogent points on loose particular occasion I thought but to characterize a football club over 30 is 3 decades that's under different managers with different players and to make that kind of a crude generalization that they were spinelessness off I thought that was disrespectful and I also think that often football teams might lose because they weren't good enough to say spineless and soft It's almost as if there was a bull fight but there was a fight in character and I think that's what got Harry Redknapp absolutely furious and I think Harry had a perfect right to shoot back I thought he did so intelligent and on this particular occasion I think Harry Redknapp is probably in the right CHRIS Yeah. Look I think Matthew put it pretty well Gary Neville is you know absolutely entitled to his own opinion and you know he I think he was talking from the fact they was a man you know as a Manchester United player but to actually call. The players are spineless. Soft and pathetic and when you look at some of the names of plays the top them over that period you know some great great players I was you know strong stuff below the belt and Harry Redknapp was spot on I think in terms of what he came back with I mean this is a spur saying we still have had relative success over that period you know were they as good as Gary Neville manchester united clear. Really not but you know. Why oh Paul and I So he would never do Chris Colson the softer spineless. Moving on moving on so you. Know let's talk about Bournemouth and Matthew what's a job and the how he's doing on the south coast. I know a young manager moved into management even the under He's been there a long time has been a manager now for almost a decade and if you look at the serial success of these had on a very tight budget I think his name should be mentioned far more widely when there are vacancies at top clubs do you think that's the case yeah I was on the same coaching courses as me he's quite quite a quiet guy but yeah you don't have to be a shark or to be a great leader mass is amazing to say the Christian on the same coaching course is that he how he's getting with the top 5 clubs and Chris lost his job at Lincoln City. You'll find young people linking up in the 1st place just of a post something in May Yeah yeah very quickly just want to say Eddie how Chris made a really interesting point that he's quite quietly spoken he mentioned ourselves as well he's also quite quietly spoken you know I think in the history of football often managers of thought that in order to exert their wealth or to palm attain they have to shout they have to pull they have to be very punitive if somebody doesn't do something particularly well on the pitch and of course sometimes you need to raise your voice in this and you say well I do think with this generation of football as millennial So I think they respond very badly to that kind of all for a tear in this and I think we haven't got a Southgate. Quiet more cerebral approach I think that's resonating very powerfully in the interviews I've done with young focus and I think that's a better model for the game going forward we can ask Nigel Cliff is join us after Joe Thomas a news with the social media around Amman and Joe very smooth link they're running very smoothly end of this and I feel very good in my. Relationship with your health yes and S.S. Start with office poll of the week then because it was a week in which we saw the 1st major managerial casualty of course you know puts a gang saw sacked not so sacked by RAM address. After just 10 league games in charge they got us thinking he was going to be the 1st managerial casualty in the Premier League now the full favorites Mark Hughes and obey your candidate Warnock and Wagner's what about you guys who do you think is going to be on those for well I don't like you know Joe I never speculate man if you get the sack because I've never been one I don't like to say in any way right now that demagogues. Is going to get socked. Well I mean I think you kind of it's See how does feel well . I know you spend a little bit in. It is it is that outside. Well Marino is a favorite He's actually 5th favorite but the public let me tell you agreed with Chris there when you kind of age 44 percent Mark Hughes came in 2nd 34 percent Warnock 12 percent I don't know just 10 percent yeah so pretty tight stuff let's also touch on the sad news that you guys mentioned at the top of the show of course but like Matthew said It really did bring the footballing world together in fact one brilliant clip I saw went viral of Leicester City fans stood outside the stadium singing champions of England you made us sing that brilliant video over 3000000 views across platform a great tribute to a great man and let's move on to our 2nd poll now the Arsenal Liverpool game this weekend the biggest fixture of the weekend by distance and we ask the people at home what's the best individual performance you've ever seen in an Arsenal versus Liverpool game he would you guys go for. In full goals and failed. Yeah Chris I would go. You could have to come back to are you going to have to come back probably would bomb probably would drop the one. Well the al Sharia law and feel badly. Now if there was a school for Unbelievable unbelievable the courage the credible Yeah well you're right to take on the public vote 54 percent Robbie Fowler of course in 94 came 17 percent Michael Owen Cup final 16 percent and Thomas and he told us in 1900 percent Rubenesque what he fancied to then get in the way I've brought Paul Paul but in have you asked why after that I went and kept on him I have to rise to the game and so I'm going for Russian style a 5 year contract and against Southampton You know it's all thanks mate great stuff cheers usual see an X. Ray gun next guest is just sponsible for saving my Darby County Korea. What you thought should slow I knew I would slow I just you know. It's a good morning to my old manager Mr Nigel Clough. Good morning Rob he did need saving as well. And certainly we're joined by Matthew side in Chris Sutton got good morning good morning Arkwright must have been a pleasure to work with such a talented. People. Like Oh absolutely you know honestly when we were actually a bit better we thought he was. Really close quarter. You shouldn't do it by you know what people say an outsider to me and I reckon he shouldn't huge. Got back in the team became captain for a very important where Very well thank you gaffer So when I said well we are weak for you it's been being your old side not enough for us and getting burned to the choir finals for the 1st time ever the of the League Cup amazing performance. Yeah yeah we've been playing well in the league but I think if you look at our league position. And think well you know we're not too cold which was a time. We actually didn't quite quite as well as we have done in previous games. Just our will to win came through on that on Tuesday night the 1st time we've ever been in the last 16 so to go one step further in the last 8. Really and we got a great draw as well I guess. He was talking about you just before you joined is about the more the manager you know as a writer to be more verbal with the young players your the all the plays you know in my time with you you know I thought you were magnificent with the younger players you you know with the older players like myself you know you would respect you know it as a modern day man as I was it difficult to gauge it destined to shout on the do you have a goal or how do you do it. Any country generally everybody the same but then you're individually. Very different from that I think that's getting the balance and certainly you know these days are a little bit more fragile than it used to be a few years ago. And I think even to a certain degree the all the size of it are sensitive as well so you just got to gauge you know you can chatter you can while treating them all as a group all the same one year old college Liverpool they go to the Amazon so I think on Arsenal how impressive you've been with club I think they've stalled out the season with a signing that say we're going to talk we're going to challenge that title this is being too many years now and I think more than capable of doing that I've got a smallish squad so I think you keep everybody. I think the way that the play is the majority of teams. But it's going to be an interesting race and I think Saturday's going to be a good indicator. Of a pope. Maybe you know man to tackle title challenge or certainly for the top 4 come over for sustain it so it's going to be interesting to know I am. He's going to ask the Lord to take it all from the ledge in a football club as a way sell it in so well so quick is the difficult thing to do is a new manager it is but I think I think the foundation here are some bankers late last you know last 20 odd years makes it easier for I think it wouldn't hurt to change too many things in terms of the standards being certain things like that so I always come in just for your own stamp on it. As well as as well as bring it they were ready for change. And the benefited from it now this season might be a bit too early for them to challenge graphs or anything next season continue in this form. Nigel math here I've worked with Robbie morning to talk us the last couple of years a lot of talk you just keep brief questions on what was it like to manage him and secondly this is a completely independent question the toughest person you've had to manage what did you have to do to really get them to excel. You know we want to go you think. Until you drop me on the bus and remember. You know. Today I got a big game I'm excited. And only remember much I'm excited I actually get up to it you said I couldn't quite like sort of play Tuesday as well. In terms of the 1st half the government had a car car there all challengers are like. The best out of them you know. Just about the hardest part of Europe. It's a good job you know you did because gas is on next it's my mother one of my. Little time to Robbie Savage is mom. Friendly prediction. Good morning among. A lot of Nigel and Chris a massive Good morning I don't. Know how good was Nigel to me oh he was wonderful but you know very much like it down I love does that. Mean one thing you know obviously but you sort of extremely well. Reach out but you could are talking to swim. You never really lost it it was already lost it was horrible the preseason we used to push the brick along the bottom of the swimming pool and. The session would go on for an extra hour because I was the captain I had to finish and everybody had to wait for me it was it was so awful so thank you for that but. Let's start with the game so mother against Manchester United. Will be nothing much between auld in the team. Sam go in for the bone muscle when the 2 are Chris while 2 to Matthew 213 United gaffer 221 in artistic arsenal against Liverpool. Last Knockout 13 goals against them a little of only got 4 so I'm not I'm going to go for the little people when to run Chris. Think try and avoid I'm raised an asshole but I think Liverpool were going to be too good 132 go over there are still 3 were gaffer on one warm on and mother final game for you to look at is the big one the 2 would probably be our last month so they Huddersfield again full of. Oh well a disputed one he scored 4 from the one he scored you know and then over to the company so I'm going to do what I want to round gaffer so you can see you as he gets a role. You have on the no more than everybody else. Won't be on much in a day Roxas or Monday and I can't. Thank you very well I'm not. Going to go to you. Do you want to spill something about your when I'm going to go. If you go this weekend. We've got Walsall like. Yeah yeah you know we. Don't think we do much training because I think something we're going to find a strike team out at the moment. So yeah it's all for well it's an all the best and thanks for joining us good luck to Gonzo crawls into my head and Stephen by lots of cosmic 3. Thanks very much pleasure. Pleasure So Chris what's game you do this weekend I'm doing I want I'm doing many games this weekend I'm doing so I also think that on Sunday Kilmarnock Capitaine and harvest field full of oh so how does feel full of them on the night well I have a good now Matthew why do this weekend. I thought I saw that. Day. For the podcast which I'm looking forward to yet of yes the Flintoff some of the ping pong guys back on the Sunday Well listen guys thank you so much for joining Happy Birthday Matthew Chris I'll see you tomorrow yeah I'll see you trying to manage your come by from. Our experience such a late breakfast on B.B.C. Radio in Shropshire. Good morning it's 6 o'clock on Saturday morning the 6th of November I'm Eric Smith it's breakfast on B.B.C. Radio show I'm sure from now until 10 and 1st of all an early morning look at the.