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Radio Sheffield I'm gonna say and how are you this Sunday evening we've got a packed show for your the next 3 hours just to give you an idea of what we've got coming up we'll be discussing the riots that broke out outside a Sheffield school and we'll be asking what chance is there for children to get an education when their safety isn't protected when you have students and parents joining in in what was clearly a very worrying and troubling incident we'll also be talking about the spike in knife crime that Sheffield has experienced over recent weeks and months tragically some of it resulting in the loss of life will ask what can be done to prevent it and is it all going to be too little too late and also it's conference season party conference season and the Labor Party held its conference and will be discussing Jeremy Corbin's vision for the U.K. So that's all to come on Eastern Eyre as always our lines are open you can give us a call or a 100. Forgot our number natural born 4949 or you can take that as a one triple 3 just start your text with the word Sheffield. You. World Boni a massive in Pakistan a member sing a concert they were performing not live but on the television So yes there is a link there is a link now moving on to our top story Joey Corbin's a told us all that he's ready to tell his party not to support to resume is breaks it plans and that all came out in the conference speech that he delivered during his pitch for Prime Minister the Labor conference he also said that there is no place for anti Jewish views in the Labor Party he said his party is ready for government and hand a string of policy ideas ready to tempt new supporters Well our reporter Adam pastor Nicky has more. Jeremy Corbin's already a hero to many in the conference hall but this speech had 3 main jobs to address the claims of anti Semitism to say clearly where he stands on brakes and to try and persuade new voters to support labor and early on he came to anti semitism I say this to all in the Jewish community this party this movement will always be implacable campaigners against anti-Semitism and racism in all its forms we are your was because the difficult government cracks in negotiations have taken attention away from where Labor stands on the issue its internal negotiations on a 2nd referendum earlier this week showed the party is divided unlike many of his supporters Jeremy Corbett is not that bothered about the year and he sketched out where he is on Bracks it with this message to Theresa May If you deliver a deal that includes a customs union and no hard bordering argument if you protect jobs people's rights and work in environmental consumer standards then we will support that sensible deal a deal that will be backed by most of businesses in the world and trade unions but if you can't negotiate that deal then you need to make way for a party that can and will was his advisors about to say tonight that that doesn't mean he's dropped Labor's 6 tests for Bracks it which they announced earlier this week there were policy ideas to try and tempt and reassure new voters more childcare hours for 23 and 4 year olds hundreds of thousands of new green jobs and doubling council tax on 2nd homes also protecting pension benefits he pitched himself as the only leader to make big changes because he says he's the only one who truly understands the scale of the problems 10 years ago this month the whole edifice of greed is good deregulated financial capitalism lauded for a generation as the only way to run a modern economy came crashing down to worst. With devastating consequences people in this country know that the old way of running things is not working anymore kid to the rafters by people in Liverpool this speech was really though for people across the country with bricks are uncertain the stability of the government about to be tested by the end of those negotiations to try and make voters across Britain feel more confident supporting Jeremy cauldrons. Adam pastor Nicky there reporting on the Labor Party Conference So what do you think our lines are open 0800 trip to one and get in the number again triple 14949 sorry having on those days there or you can take a once triple free just start the text with the word Sheffield are you somebody who's been convinced by Jeremy Corbin's message at the conference and some of the newspapers even those newspapers that are. Routinely writing stories against labor particularly Jeremy Corbyn seem to be saying that his message was attractive and it was the kind of message that was going to persuade people and that the Tories needed to raise their game are you one of those people who's been convinced by Jeremy Corbyn Or perhaps you weren't impressed by what he had to say give us a call 800 triple 149498 letter is now. The. Good job of. The leg. He said could go to the college. Which. He was. Allowed to get the body that he will get to the 1000000. Dollar. Home and. A good job of government to be. Listened to. Thanks. EASTON. On B.B.C. Radio Sheffield. Listens he said that on B.B.C. Radio Sheffield It's 17 minutes past 6 this Sunday evening so we heard before that track about Jeremy Corbin at the Labor Party conference making his pitch for Prime Minister Well I'm joined in the studio by why didn't his hear from the One Nation community center he's going to be talking about the organizations up to a little bit later on but he's here with me now to comment on the story so far so firstly Good evening watch Good evening to yourself and all the listens out there thank you for much to me again shortcut and. So why do I don't know if you saw the speech that Coburn gave but we played some extracts from it there ARE YOU use of more convinced you were down to 1st that he was the man to lead this country what was your position and has it changed what I did listen to some of the speech about I mean I've been following this kind of politics for a long time not just after the speech I think is a breath of fresh air you know if you look up everybody you disenfranchise We politics you know but he's kind of speaking the language of the people the general people on the street so he has got very good policies and close he looks like a personal speaking from his all but on a bit just from the resonates with me like speaking from his on so I really wish him good luck because we've got plenty of other parties and over taken control of the U.K. But I mean it's not being. The things Jeremy said what about what he's saying about brakes that he got this test but keeping the door open to the 2nd referendum is that something that attracts you or is that something you're against Well the thing the policies what I've read is definitely going to accept the will of the people who vote to. Europe but I mean with all this hoo ha going on for the Conservative Party in fighting and everything I think that's why they're going to go for the 2nd referendum if they do go further but I think I would go for the 2nd one but as long as I know what kind of policies are in there because sometimes on till everything's all bolted in then you start finding the devil in the detail I don't want to do that I want to find out well before him what kind of details in. What was your position on the referendum initially where you remain or where you were you know be straight with you because I don't know what would have been a benefit in leaving or staying because politics is that kind of thing these days that the common person on the street doesn't know he can't answer that question straight away and we need the kind that we need them kind of answers and we need people to be educated on these kind of things so before I didn't have that much information to remain or not because there were a lot of lies going on where the boss was said 350000000 the N.H.S. Abilities in a day or what about now you know lots of people are saying that everything's pointed towards no deal that's going to be horrific for the economy nothing good is going to come of this what's your view on it now if you if there was a 2nd referendum what would you do you know what they are still going to know we're . Probably do is read up on it probably this time because of all the advertisements and everything last time up and be you know about the N.H.S. And losing this and losing this and losing the but then in reality and in fact it's being told the opposite to what story was given so hopefully this time if it is in plain black and white then we've got a chance to vote yes or no. And let's see what happens but I don't know if they'll go down for the gold I think is going to go to an old deal that's what my personal opinion is anyway OK thanks. For the nation community center is going to be staying in the studio with us for the next of 45 minutes or so. When you can give us a call 084949 or you can text. Restart your text with a word Sheffield Now moving on disability campaign essays that needs to be for support for disabled British South Asians Shani has set up the Asian Disability Network. Was born with a red genetic condition Genesis imperfecta more commonly known as brittle bones she says that not enough has changed over the years and feel strongly that there needs to be more support and awareness around disability especially within the Asian communities well I can say now that joins me on the line Good evening Shani. A Very well thanks now. Why did you set up the Asian Disability Network What did you want to try to achieve and provide through it. So I myself was born with a condition so are you. Live in an alternate think you will fall for the last. Changed talk about perceptions of disability or attitude so I set up this platform because one there aren't any other role model. In this space and I want to help provide support guidance and we have a safe space for people to measure their feeding especially for new parents because you know if we don't see disability around. Signal you have a child you haven't Pam in or a condition that can be very daunting especially within the Asian community which is secretly to to and you know disability for far too long has been shot. Didn't negative stigma and discrimination and I want that to change so show me is your agenda directed towards the community itself or do you say that there are issues with the providers of systems like the N.H.S. And council in terms of the way that they deal with disabled members of the Asian community and estimated this question it's a 2 sided with A I definitely think we have issues within the community that we don't have open conversations about how or disability or conditions I think because one we don't have the confidence until we don't have the children ology you know when we look at mental house there aren't words to describe certain conditions so that that's one barrier in itself and when it comes to service provided I don't think that professionals you know within the N.H.S. Or the separate devices understand the cultural issues and the coach was Dick man. She's dating with a condition in this size in this community and I think that must of education piece needs to have to and you know dissipate with to understand and and how and what to get a change there. Show me what kind of the seas have you face growing up with a disability. So I have a very visible condition my condition means I have a short stature of 3 foot 10. Day one years old you know I live in London I drive I was a travel and just do everything everybody else you know want to do in their life as a child my grandparents were told that you know it's not going to have to walk. So I had a lot of low expectations within the community and you know people didn't think that I wanted to even do half the things that I have done like get an education you know and drive and tomatoes and just simple basic things. It's really a I think that that you know really being annoying throughout my life is that people have little expectation and I remember when I got off to a part time job at 16 you know to choose a role for the law while you work in you can live your long term benefits although I don't I don't want to do that I wanted a contribution to society you know I got a lot to offer why why do you want to stick to harm just because of a physical condition that doesn't mean I don't live a part of something doesn't mean or don't use to me that my mind will meet people that are harder and. So yeah I need to change and you know I don't feel that I have in the last 30 years and now for the B. To change that all I want to see in society OK Shelley So what do you think needs to be done in order to bring about the change that you use it is desperately needed . I think we need to tackle the different creep so that the older people suppose they can have different generation of these and been a say and that's going to have a trickle down effect you know on to the parents of disabled children and then the actual people that live with conditions and impairment without I think what we need to do is talk about the prevalence of disability are one in 5 people. And you can decide board and this 14000000 disabled people and 80 percent of all disabled people acquire their condition so that means only 20 percent actually born with their condition impairment so what that really means is that this can affect anyone at any time at any age one in 5 is a very high status we need to actually get to grips with that and learn how to have competent conversations about disability and how we can make people feel included in community groups and in society socially of someone who's obviously a member of the Asian communities born and bred in this country do you think this is just really a generational I see that those people who are like you who are able bodied don't carry the same sort of negative opinions or stereotypes of disability that perhaps some of the the older generation carry do you think it's something that will just change with time or do you see those negative opinions and stereotypes persisting through the generations I think if we don't testily it will consist I think disability generally wider society is having a moment you know Paralympics 3 times perception of disability for example but it's even harder to make that change in minority communities and you know language is a key issue that's a massive sorry people don't understand so I definitely think we need to test play and you know I don't feel the Congress presented in society as I can disabled woman you know does no one on screen that represent me in terms of those characteristics or that ethnicity and that's a shame in 30 years and that needs to change imagine going through your whole life I'm not seeing anyone that represents you and you know brand one admin a how far they're going to go to represent people inside but I think. So having set up the Asian Disability Network what kind of reception of you received in terms of sort of existing disability organizations and the wider community it seems fantastic so because being online on the platform with plans to expand and host events around the country the honesty universities have got in touch I'm speaking about a different A.B.C. Radio this evening alone it's got people talking and that was setting up a set just to help support people whether your parent of a child who has a conditional impairment or whether you have one yourself is just saved by 3 set to come and talk to like minded people or get advice. So yet been it's been brilliant and I can only hope that it gets better and better so show me finally is someone listening is interested in connecting with the Asian Disability Network called giving some assistance to you how can you do that so Albany to you is that Asian disability now where across social media treats their I work and Linked In and they can also contact me directly it's actually down there across all platforms . Well Shani Dunder from the Disability Network thank you very much for joining us on Easter Thank you all you're welcome to listen to B.B.C. Radio Sheffield we've got the traffic and travel news coming up next but after that we'll be going to our radio car to speak to parents who witnessed the what's being described as a riot that broke out school in Sheffield It all stemmed from a dispute between students but very quickly parents and members of the community surrounding the school became involved so that the police had to be called will be getting the reports on the impact it's had on the students and the wider community all from the radio car but before that we've got the traffic and travel. Travel Live. a much was was living. Easton was on B.B.C. Radio Sheffield was. The. And there on at B.B.C. Radio Sheffield at $635.00 this Sunday evening now as you mentioned at the start of the show there was trouble between students at the Sheffield school for Vale school to be exact earlier this week which was quickly escalated resulting in a significant police response so how did it start and what are the authorities going to do about prevent it from happening again well our roving reporter where you are there is out in the radio car and has gone down to the further mail area Good evening where you there you there Good evening I'm with Councillor Jim stank use the cabinet member for neighborhoods and community safety and Mesereau for as a local resident in for Vale now dramatic footage on social media shows a large gathering of concerned parents and pupils at the school as well as a number of police cars officers and dogs to deal with the incident that occurred at the school and quickly escalated NASA you were one of the 1st people on the scene and you put videos on social media tell me what you saw well what we saw was a gentleman of European descent climbing fences careen offensive weapons. Into was a school huge public huge fear shouting screaming a lot of it and some very angry and upset distraught parents as well making their way it was a school and who was shouting and screaming Well it was a mixture really it was a mixture of kids children inside the school that were panicked yard there was some members of stuff that were running around as well and then also local residents local teachers parents and guardians as well as they were climbing the fence or attempting to have a go at the fence Jim how did this start. I started it is difficult to go into the details because it's still kind of subject to investigation but it was clearly a kind of fight between so pupils of the school that then escalates it with other with other children joining in but I need to say that it was a you know relatively small scale kind of fight that then kind of got escalates it by actions by of by adults outside the school gates and have there been incidents since that day I know it's been very common that the school from that message is adopting getting from there and in the surrounding area as well so you had messages from the school who else have you talked to and what sort of issues if you discussed with them about this issue with sort of history with the place and not being kind of kicking in tightly kept in pretty far the place in terms of their responses by the school itself in terms of and I think very subtly kind of looking at ways of engaging with parents from all parts of the community there. And also with contrast other local community figures obviously kind of local pub councils involved in the M.T.A. And we've all kind of we're actually meeting with a chill furnace on Tuesday now. Now in terms of the police presence is a large presence that once this incident actually unfolded what's been happening in the area since then has been relatively calm of think the police have been kind of having a presence in the school I think it's been appropriate level without going over the top to both reassure Khana teachers pupils and parents that things are comic and and there's been no kind of repeat of any instance and so on and they have being claims that actually the police are already overstretched issues like this just even greater pressure to quite tighten precious resources obviously doesn't help but it is really important that you know not just the place but the local authority and other community bodies actually kind of respond call appropriately to this way we need to kind of make sure that kind of all sections of the community actually feel reassured and things don't get out of hand again asserted will sweep mass as a local resident Do you feel reassured by the police presence there we do slightly but the shoes are there is still ongoing concerns that the community has these community tensions have never been any higher you know wouldn't call few years back when David Blunkett made them comments to pay you was a ticking time bomb do you starting to see that can through and that's not to cause panic is in fact is to do opposite it's the fact that we need to get more authorities on the ground but the response from the police and we're finally seeing the course that the governments are taken up the impact on the police force some of the officers is very very stretched even on the D.S. That specific day and time will tell me more tell me more about the tensions and he said community tensions between whom between many members many cultures within the community many residents feel as though the European citizens are European citizens of come over have not money to integrate the Seems to be long stuff against longstanding people in the community when you talk about European citizens who do you mean well we're talking about the Romanian Slovakian community that's 1000000 in the doors the Seems to be a lot of being a language barrier still and then seems to be like a cultural barrier and it's the integration and it's kind of the education that's kind of still. Providing a lot of be stumbling blocks the reader in recourse into waiting and that's what we're seeing here we're seeing here various incidents this issue started in the school between 2 students we understand and you're talking about community tensions between Roma Slovak communities and all the communities in the area has that link that well this is thing the thing is children will pick up whatever happens outside unfortunately every time there's an incident that happens even if you look at the specific incident I know it's ongoing police investigation but just talking about the general response from the community the way people panicking and running around and I'm curious outside the school and the havoc and and some of the chaos that was after was outside the school the whole thing in the community unfortunately whenever there's an incident or there's an accident so it's up to vehicles have a small collision rather than just ensure you do to exchange of details and going in just to know there's the entire community that comes out and you'd be have all left you've got a real big situation on your hands where officers of feeling the need to $1520.00 officers and needing to respond to a very small incident now that he's somebody is that we're going to have to break down his community organizations and activists in the area and that's one of the trust we take open and really brought the problem is again is due to luck in the luck of police resources over the last few years we've got little Jimmy and the masses talking about wider community tensions here how are you as a council and other bodies actually going to deal with that we'll look at and we'll be discussing this with both officers in the council place local. Politicians 30 amp A this week as I've said we're looking at setting up some kind of for further form there are kind of current forms that we need to kind of assess how effective they are instantly different countries will working together piteousness assert I think it's really important that we get a sense of proportion about this this was a minor incident in the school kind of escalated by at. And I think it's really important that we recognize in all this suggest how well the school is from what we saw on social media the pictures the videos we saw that in look like a minor incident there was that in the spark for this was it was a minor incident and I kind of accept that kind of pictures you know and a number of people were involved but other disease instance happened in other schools and they are consigned it he had because it happens to you know school life violence and gets taken out of all proportion and further in school I need to say also which is it's exam results kind of improving enormously and the number of exclusions from that school would have come down the school has said that it has welcomed 800 students back into the school that 24 new students have joined since this incident but they're all concerned parents who are considering moving their children away from the school or how are you going to handle that I think we need to reassure them and we need to kind of actually emphasize the fact of how successful the school has been in bringing in kind of. People from all community children from all communities and I think that you know we need to kind ensure that the school and but in particular the peoples are not demonized by the debate that's going to help parents and children perhaps don't feel safe in the school what you're saying isn't going to help a child Well I think that's where the grown as a kind of poster teachers working together with the place and sense of reassuring kids are naturally kind of getting kids to openly discuss it in terms of assemblies is going to be specific kind of meetings with the parents of each kind of school year we'll have a specific ME ME ME TO is it is safe school for pupils that I think it's a safe school I think that you know all schools have a kind of numb risk about them the comfort comes and goes in terms of the reported incidents of violence be no worse than other schools and I think we need to kind of keep a sense of proportion about it now you have relatives I presume who go to school and live in the area do you feel this is a school well I think. Given its current circumstances and given the incident at this moment in time there's a lot to put in place to make sure that school becomes one of the safest schools however at this moment as it stands it seems many parents feel that is not safe and therefore have decided to remove their children from school my uncles and and my cousins originally decided to move away from the school or part reassurance from the head teacher and from the school of governors Chad a school of governors here were played an absolutely fantastic response so far in regards to post incident and I think local people are really wanting to to kind of give them another go so I think most parents especially my cousins are reconsidering especially being in year 11 affecting G.C.S.E. Results the last thing we want here is for our youths education to be affected by this so at a time like this it will be more about please don't make irrational decisions in the heat of the moment please think about it your children are safe if any think we can only get better than what has happened and we've got a lot of learning to do there's many concerns here safeguarding being one of them and then there's also very sure the policies that the school has in place I have more of our foreign policy of any sort of policies that really need to be looked at here because they were what's in the lead to situational rather than kind of bring a resolve to this by the way this incident could have been bought and did be get brought into hand by the school teachers for more than adequate if the parents hadn't responded or that the outside audience to respond would have been a lot calmer Jim the. Issue about if parents want to drop students that they're at the moment taken to a different school or children a primary and parents are thinking well maybe that's not the school for my children now are you as a council able to deal with the demands of the schools as independent schools whether independent actually able to deal with those demands elsewhere I think that's difficult I mean clearly there's demand on all school places at the moment this will destabilize and I think that's why I think it's not just an issue for the school but for a kind of turning schools in the country area and it's necessary I think we just need to kind of ensure and reassure people as much as possible who is thinking of sending their kids that this is you know what has happened shouldn't happen is regrettable but that she was managed very well by the school and you talked about meetings possibly being held with the M.P. With the police and others but some parents will be thinking well what about me my children go to the school who's talking to me Well I think as a said Let each there's going to be a meeting of each school year and kind of in the coming days organized by the school a lot become a place of the meeting and of the other kind of relevant council offices to reassure parents to take up any questions and issues that they want to do are you confident that this sort of incident will be allowed to Reeva I think in terms of you know it's difficult to. Be confident that incidents won't happen in schools that that well it's all environments with with kids I think what we need to show is that there isn't a logorrhea as there was outside the school gates as much as possible and I think the same holds or can be done with some of the adults involved in that both from both kind of Rome and Pakistani communities and I said there was a meeting I understand to be held tomorrow is that with parents and the school that they're meeting that has been canceled yes it's been canceled Monday at 530 it was Utah prefer their schools in partnership with the police and the local stakeholders and the parents that's however has been counseled upon further advice from the stakeholders and now what has been rearranged is very structured sessions where parents will be able to cope with their concerns. Amee stuff more on a personal one to one basis and more of a personal touch to it and for them to take on board I have had reassurance though from the chair of governors at the school Maceda who as it was take accept this challenge and has told us that she's going to be getting on to this some of the policies we had a parents meeting last week just following the incident and it was well covered by 3040 local parents that came got a chance to get their concerns off and she's given as reassurance that she will meeting with us on a regular basis to make sure the policies and procedures are put in place and the lockdown procedures put in place so that in future incidents like this are avoided but I don't tie my this all we can wish easy to get wish those kids well and then 2nd thing what we can do is as a community is really support our local schools and given the resources and the backing to do it and call for calm is New much needed right now in our community Jim Why was this meeting cancelled was a concern about any further disorder that must have been part of the facts facts involved in that last thing you know the important thing this that there is calm and I think that what is I think a sensible turn and see if he's having a meeting of parents from every year kind of controllable meeting in terms of numbers that actually kind of gets the right people into Bateson and to raise issues in the old way. Now said talked earlier on about community tensions you talked about relationships between. Eastern European communities who have migrated to Sheffield and other communities who perhaps have migrated in the past or have been resident here for many many years and those tensions what will the council do specifically about those tensions and what resources will you put in what we need we are already putting in resources and in terms of patrol and viol and that's both on in some sort work you know specific work with different communities specific work in terms of trying to address a little later issues within there in those there's no color designated wardens who are working in the area trying both kind of enforcing but also working with people and. And education in terms of keeping the place taught you well thank you very much to both of you counselor Jim stanky and Mesereau for discussing. The outcomes really of that incident earlier this week at school back to you in the studio thank you were here a doctor that was reporting on the what was described as a riot that broke out of jail school earlier this week our lines are open 0800 triple 14949 or you can text as a 13 double 3 Start your tags with the word Sheffield. With so before. You say there were any only anthologies you can let me know why there are so many Magpies around as you get around there are long beads all the eggs in the takeover really taste like mine but you know it's not something at the follow up on my plate in Miami we'll hear how did you know because real morning Allan Bromley. Looked right. It's not the question you were expecting I'm aware of that. At. Back tomorrow morning from 7 on B.B.C. Radio Sheffield. Eastern am. On B.B.C. Radio Sheffield. Listening on B.B.C. Radio Sheffield 651 this Sunday evening so we've just been hearing from for Vale where a riot broke out outside the school all starting from a dispute among students I'm joined in the studio by from the One Nation community center Now why do we're going to come back and speak about what happened at the school because I think it links in with with the topic I want to speak to you about which is the sharp rise in if you pardon the pun knife crime in Sheffield we've seen incidents over the last few weeks and months some of which resulted in the tragic loss of life your organization the One Nation community center a good few years ago was campaigning for the installation of of knife bins places where people could go and dispose of all of knives in a safe way without the fear of recriminations and it was a not a campaign that was led by one of your former colleagues was suddenly lost her battle against cancer Cheryl Robertson. At that time you were being told that sending installing nice bins in Sheffield was sending the wrong message out because Sheffield didn't have a problem I'm glad you remembered. Because if you look back now to be talking like roughly October 2015 when in 2018 on top and also 3 years and when Cheryl came aboard she had good initiatives where you're going to schools when you night and young and the children are not growing as can be detrimental but yeah going. What you said is the police and the council wasn't really interested in putting these things in across the city because they said it's going to give a bad image about Sheffield and Sheffield is one of the best cities in in the U.K. So we didn't stray away and just to remind listeners who may not know you ended up having to install this been on private property. And. If we fast forward in the last few months a bin was placed by the council which they claim was that was that was the 1st one despite the fact that you and the good work they shuttle did had they had put bins in place years before them you've got a good memory Mr G. Yeah no that's right what happened was the council was against it and the. Police was against it so we got a piece of private land us to hold and he said you could put it in there so it's still there in the broad field of today now given that the police and council now clearly acknowledge the need for for these kinds of initiatives and the bins we you contacted by the council you contacted by the police given the fact that you've been you know part of this campaign if not the start of this campaign 3 years ago well at the beginning when really discourse in the situation not very well but if you just cut. The previous 56 months where Dr Alan Billings and some of the South Yorkshire superintendents got together and porn I've been bang Greve area and that's when we got contacted by only Jennings who was a detective superintendent she came from the police service in Northern Ireland and now is in Sheffield and she went to me to issue a very apologetic and she was a very nice lady and she was saying look I want to change in Sheffield and I'll just tell you this will every police officer talked to before never had the kind of X. Factor when it comes to dealing with knife crime or gun crime but believe me she did want to Jenny she was you really cold. And I think she's going to you know do something different I hope do you sense from the police that they want to work with you now they want to build on the expertise that you've got in the good work that you've done yeah of course because Cheryl and all the team we're going to put in I've been in Sheffield and saying look you know I've been there full stop we went into schools in primary schools and trying to educate kids from a young age not to carry a knife and what the consequences because this put gets to the back burner I mean the kids they might get the knife to my stab somebody but I don't think about what's going to happen after that so what are we teaching not look you're spoiling lives the mother the father's lost a loved one and stuff like that and when you put that into the kids then you could tell they get a little bit emotional and they do you know want to turn away from this kind of violent behavior now linking this back to the events that veil earlier this week. You know some people think you know let's get ahold of teenagers speak to teenagers because they're the ones are likely to get involved in this is that a strategy you agree with or do you adopt a different approach I don't know what's worked for those goalies in the interactive discussions with the kids going into school and stuff like that and starting reading from a younger age you know if you can and thought somebody who's 1314 we know that the kids kind of responses and let these they hid so they are probably going to get sworn in but I mean if you teach your kids from primary school level so you think you've got to come in younger because by the time they're teenagers if they've got any sort of negative attitudes or. Views on on the knife and carrying weapons. Clearly wrong those are 2 firmly ingrained in them so you definitely have to go on while they're young. You know the police have to be involved other organizations have to be involved and we have to show these kids good role models and even if people have been involved in street crime or knife crime taking them into the schools and talking to the kids and saying look this is not the right way I've been through that and look here we go. Now in terms of the kind of impact you have how do the kids react to it the younger ones what would make it an informal setting not so like it's a head teacher talking to kids or we throw a bit of sports in there do a bit about Reema do a bit of a cricket or any thing what we can do because that's what we do than other it's probably at the moment every Friday afternoon we do an interactive sport session ball at the same time we try to build on confidence build on character and then take them away from a life of crime so we started really young I'm starting from the age of 7 onwards and I hope that more of this kind of things that used up in a long time ago but I've asked them organizations these insane look at the funding is being caught and we don't have enough resources now to go into schools and it just goes back to no funding people haven't got time and it's unfortunate really because people are doing. In terms of War parents can do. In order to ensure that their children want obviously victims but don't fall in to the trap of thinking that carrying a knife or any kind of weapon is the right thing to do what can they do what other size they need to be looking out for I mean we asked the parents are same question . Can you do something different home you know so to teach them not to go into violent behavior and they said oh look the kids come to school in 9 o'clock in the morning to finish our plus 3 so that many hours that at school we only have them light for an hour or 2 hours in the evening what can we do so they say no emphasis should be really put on school and authority to teach them not and then as well as the parents back you know hope and talk into my home but it's just not happening. It's not an atoll one of the other community organizations obviously amongst the Asian Muslim community the mosque is is an important institution. Have you received any kind of support from them is there anything that you think they can do. I mean that they are always supportive of them also any other organizations but it's a matter of taking action there is anybody to come forward to spend their time and use their volunteer time to talk to children now these organizations are pushing on one person and said Look here you do this and you lose up and go out into the community and do it but they've got to have a more hands on approach especially the mosques you know the trying to do good work but it's just not working at the moment and plus the kids are only going to the most so learn the Koran and stuff like that they don't have no Anything else you know like what really matters what's happening in the community today and that needs to be addressed now whilst we were off air we were we were talking about this this particular problem and you mentioned how things have happened just overnight What is it that you heard this morning I went and actually went on to not as Facebook. Gives all the news are early morning kind of a breakfast show is go on Facebook so I said only 3 people were stabbed last night one is in a critical but stable condition and the other 2. Not in critical condition but it's stable and that happened last night in town about 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning so if you just look back at this previous couple of months not strong as just being there wherever you look you look left or right or center it's a knife crime or gun crime and.