For news in the past March for this c.b.c. 5. That's true apart from the news comes from having played the main news this hour counter-terror police investigate a suspected poisoning in Salzburg and install Real Madrid and Liverpool reached the Champions League quarter finals this is b.b.c. 5 Live. The Russian embassy has rubbished Boris Johnson statement about the suspected poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter Moscow says the foreign secretary should wait for the investigation to finish before blaming them so gay and u.s. Cripple are still critically ill Richard Guthrie is a chemical weapons expert the Russian do it more overtly It's an expression of power. That's my conclusion out of the Litany in cold case that was a very easily detectable police of this material it was as if the Russians were saying look we don't care that you could detect this we are powerful enough to do it Downing Street announced that the government's emergency Cobra committee will meet to discuss the situation this morning a Spanish tourist has died after a suspected carbon monoxide leak in a west London hotel he was found at the Mayflower Hotel in Kensington yesterday another man is in critical condition in hospital they advertise in standard they'd all Thora he is taking action against misleading pricing by secondary ticketing providers it's found the 4 major operators weren't upfront with consumers about additional fees they were added at the end of the booking process and that is for a month and Sons So actually the majority of circuits now are either being principally sold through those sites or being resold through them so I think we've got a much bigger issue than the guys who stand out shouting It's Ok. Donald Trump's top economic adviser Gary Cohn is to resign the latest in a rapid series of high profile departures from the White House his decision to leave comes just days after the president said he could trigger a trade war by imposing tariffs on steel. And imports Philip Hammond is expected to talk about how a future trade deal with the e.u. Will impact financial services the chancellor said last week that it would be very difficult to see how any deal could be fair if it didn't include services his 5 lives Richard Foster Philip Hammond's going to make it clear he believes a bespoke free trade deal including financial services is possible whatever the skeptics as he describes them argue he wants special access to the e.u. Single market despite warnings that no such deal is possible from the European Commission's lead negotiator Michel Barnier a new $10000000.00 pound fund is being made available in memory of the labor m.p. Jo Cox the money from the Department for International Development is to support projects reflecting her passion for women's empowerment and to building resilient communities and the family in Perth in Australia has found the world's oldest known message in a bottle almost 132 years after thrown into the sea they say they had no idea what it was until they dried it in the oven experts confirmed it was from a German ship. England can win the series with victory over New Zealand in their 4th one day international and Nene in. $335.00 for one is what England finished with a little flurry from some current $22.00 other balls giving England a little bit of a lift after a horrible collapse of 8 for $46.00 off to 60 in $64.00 balls that after Jonny Bairstow and Joe Root at gardening went to chill $167.00 for what So all out $335.00 New Zealand start their own chase in a round about 10 minutes side time needed 336 to win let's catch up with the rest of the morning sport with Shabnam industrial European champions Real Madrid are through to the Champions League quarterfinals of to beating Perry on 52 over 2 legs if you want to Madrid in Paris Christiane Overall though got the 1st goal he's now scored in every Champions League game for his club this campaign local are also through for the. Time since 2009 after a goalless night on field against Porto they were 5 nil up after the 1st leg some big results in the Championship 2nd place Cardiff a now just 3 points behind leaders wolves after a $21.00 win bumming them remain in the bottom 3 after Gary Monk's 1st game in charge was the one no defeat to his former club Middlesbrough promotion chasing Alstom Villa heaps more misery on both some clubs Sunderland beating them 3 nil this is b.b.c. 5 live on digital online smartphone and stop at the weather into the day rain and Hill snow will clear from Northern Scotland but showers will develop of the other parts of the u.k. Might be quite heavy so there will be some sunny spells as well the 6 Nations show an unexpected results at Murrayfield so. I Funded I'm alive I'm Raj Shah were up all night. 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On Pam Colter there's another high level departure from the White House we've just learned that top economic adviser Gary Cohn is turning in his resignation c.b.s. Is Bill Raycroft joins us live with the breaking story we're doing all these things to make American citizens lives better well that's Gary Cohn last year talking about tax reform. As a Democrat in a free trade proponent who is said to have argued strongly against the idea of tariffs there have been rumors about his eventual departure from the White House for months now but the announcement by President Trump to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum may have been the last straw Pam in a news conference with Sweden's prime minister President Trump said North Korea seems sincere in its offer to hold talks with the u.s. We have come certainly a long way at least rhetorically with North Korea it would be a great thing for the world it would be a great thing for North Korea would be a great thing for the potential. But we'll see what happens the u.s. Has been pressuring Pyongyang to end its nuclear and ballistic missile programs despite what some administration officials have told Congress the president said the government is taking action to counteract Russian meddling in u.s. Elections c.b.s. Is Steven Portnoy reports certainly there was meddling at a news conference alongside the prime minister of Sweden the president called for vigilance on the part of state election officials here inch to wider use of ballots that can be physically counted it's called paper Mr Trump said his administration is engaged in what he called a very very deep study of election security he was asked if he's concerned Moscow will try to meddle in this year's midterms to know because with to counteract whatever they do will counteract it very strongly Stephen Portnoy c.b.s. News the White House utility workers are scrambling to repair the last of the power outages that occurred in the northeast last weekend ahead of another winter storm meteorologist Craig gallant from northeast of Baltimore on up towards Philadelphia and New York City and all points west so in other words west of the I 95 corridor this is an easy 6 to 12 and snowstorm with pockets of 12 to 18 inches of a very heavy wet snow the National Weather Service issued a winter storm warning from eastern Pennsylvania to most of New England from late tonight into Thursday morning the 9 day long teachers walk. Out in West Virginia is over Governor Jim Justice signed a bill that gives teachers along with other state employees a 5 percent raise we are making an investment to make education to put education where a mob in an over and over it ought to be in it is for the Dow was up 9 points today this is c.b.s. News the British government promises a robust response if it turns out the Kremlin was connected to the poisoning of a Russian spy on British soil condition critical the former Russian spy found slumped on a park bench in Solsbury Sunday the only obvious theory to investigate is that this was a Kremlin ordered a fascination attempt American Bill Browder was deported from Russia after working to expose high level corruption there scientists at the U.K.'s secret weapons lab are studying the unknown substance that's thought to a 2nd Sergei script and his daughter counterterrorism officers are investigating Vicki Barker c.b.s. News London renowned cellist Yo-Yo Ma held a concert for the 13 brothers and sisters who California authorities say were found stark in shackled by their parents the performance was held at the corona Regional Medical Center which thanked Ma for sharing his love of music with the siblings their parents pled not guilty to torture and other charges Pam Colter c.b.s. News. Let's join Peter Bowes now in Los Angeles who is still in recovery from the Oscars Hello It takes a few weeks wrote. It right there were some one my thoughts about the red carpet there were there were awkward moments for for one of the hosts I think was was it Ryan Seacrest Yeah some. A few more than more than just got gossipy things about I mean these are actually been accused of kind of things that the me too movement is all about yes that's right and I don't know whether the moments on the red carpet were that awkward for him because I don't think anyone actually confronted him or refused to be interviewed by him on television but it seems as if looking at the end of the day they got fewer big names coming over to them Now whether that's a response to the allegations we won't know but certainly I think to use the word awkward very accurate because the allegations were very very serious allegations that were published a few days ago by Variety and these were allegations in some detail that were made initially some weeks ago in not so much detail he actually preempted that by denying it he said he is completely innocent of the allegations that were made by a former makeup artist who he worked with but the allegations came out against a few days ago in some considerable detail and they were in the same vein as those allegations that have been made against many other men in Hollywood and again he has strongly denied it's the network isn't just for anyone listening overseas of course who hasn't watched as the main entertainment cable news network in the states and carries a lot of the red carpet coverage and he is their main host they have stood by him they did an internal investigation and found nothing to support the allegations that have been made against him but I think certainly must have been quite. Comfortable weekend for him and interesting Lee There's a lot of media coverage of him today because the a.b.c. Network here in the States is reviving American Idol which Ryan Seacrest presented on the Fox network for many many years very successfully and then it ended and we thought that was it for American Idol it's us being actually being brought back on a.b.c. Which is of course one of the big 3 and that starts this coming weekend so all eyes will be on the dust to see whether these allegations and this cloud that's hanging over him will have any effect. And what about the general political content of the presentation of the Oscars this year I mean it was all jolly right on that it seem a lot more right on than than previous that well clearly this issue the issue of sexual harassment to me to movement the time's up movement had an effect and to me actually watching it was much more in your face in terms of the presentation then I'd expected I certainly was very much prominent at the Golden Globes Screen Actors Guild Awards and I think there was a sense in Hollywood that perhaps it wouldn't play so much a role at the Oscars but it certainly did and Jimmy Kimmel in his opening segment in his jokes and his monologue at the beginning frankly wasn't that funny it was rather more serious and I think he wanted to just make a statement that yes we are aware of this we know things have to change and in Hollywood and then got on with the show but the issue kept coming back time and time again and then of course Frances McDormand won for best actress and she made a huge deal of it getting all of the nominated actresses to to stand up not only actresses but female nominees straight from every category just to again make a statement and I think the point was they want to try to move things forward now the statements have been made and it was really a call of action from her perspective that look things have to start happening now and she was appealing to the filmmakers look if you've got money to spend on a project come and see me in my office I will come to you and we want to see equality we want to see the same number of women as men employed and that kind of thing so. A lot of Yeah I mean to that point we only saw a brief shot of the t.v. Audience but it seemed to you that there were relatively few women actually standing you know and because that was the number of women who had been nominated it was difficult to I was watching on a t.v. Monitor as well so maybe you got a different perspective actually inside the room it seemed that though there were quite a few something whether all of the nominees were standing and clearly to make it a relevant cross-section of that particular audience it might be unfair I don't know whether in terms of people invited to the Oscars it's equal between men and women so just to get a snapshot from the number of women that actually stood up then I don't know whether that will be fair but I think that she wanted to make a point that here are these prominent successful women and that's across the board in the industry there should be more. Now what about the viewing figures because they you know some would say fell off a cliff or at least they were well there when they well the worst viewing figures for the Oscars since they started tracking viewers in 1974 down some 20 percent from through 32900000 last year to 26 and a half 1000000 this year which is quite a significant drop in there are lots of suggested reasons why that might be I think the main one is that there wasn't really much suspense at this Oscar ceremony a lot of the firms had previously won awards at other shows like The Golden Globes Screen Actors Guild Awards none of the categories had been a surprise is everything went by the book and I think maybe audiences has had go to a sense of that that it wasn't going to be one of those blockbuster years using the word blockbuster none of the films were par from 2 that had actually reached that $100000000.00 mark which is generally the benchmark for becoming a blockbuster but the others were relatively low in terms of income and that usually correlates to the audience for the Oscars if if the movies haven't been seen by that many people generally they tend to stay away from watching the ceremony. So just looking at the tone of the acceptance speeches we had Jimmy Kimmel doing that funny thing at the beginning where he was offering a jet ski to the person who made the short speech who was British as a target was. Yes yes you're right actually he was British Yeah. So that was good so he got to ride off into the sunset with yeah with Helen Mirren that kind of spoof game show host for all but as far as I mean as far as the content of the speeches go. Can we take much from it I mean there's this is it going to be like this no Every year I don't think it will be like this every year I think this was a one off I think it was a moment in time when certain individuals felt that this was their platform this was and they were encouraged by Jimmy Kimmel at the beginning of the show to use it as a platform to say. Heartfelt feelings about this issue and sexual harassment time's up me too or whatever they wanted to get off their chests and they took an opportunity or at least most of those big names to say something and I think what will be interesting is now is whether Hollywood takes note and moves forward and there's action based on what people have been saying and I sat down shortly after the Oscars had finished on Sunday night with Dr Ben like a rod he is a British academic He's an expert in leadership issues and he takes a special interest in award ceremonies in the Oscars in particular the impact of acceptance speeches for me it's all about how actors how people in professions use language rhetoric to inspire others to influence others to motivate others how you using language and of course you can't get any more central to that than the movie industry itself clearly there is a much more significant undertone this year there's a lot of political tension but there has been a real platform for change we didn't see that last year the ceremony was very different and clearly the outcome was very different this year a lot of positive change I think if the ceremony had occurred 3 months ago the speeches would have been more wrong you may have seen that with things like Golden Globes and others but quite a grown up message a strong undertone particularly around the sexual harassment and change for more promise of a female roles we saw that in a lot of the speeches but I felt very positive at the end of the ceremony because I think this is not just a voice for change I think this time next year we will have realized the change I was actually struck by how sober it was when Frances McDormand who won for best actress was perhaps the most out there she got all the other female nominees to stand up and made a big deal of that and that was a very emotional moment Meryl if you do it everybody else welcome my film. It wasn't just a message actually she made a statement for a change so she talked about receiving and requesting more financing for 4 female roles and a few more films are actually that's a measurable success measure this time next year will be able to look at that and think Ok how many more female products have been financed by the sector compared to last year it's a practical way in which yes things can change as opposed to let's say state of mind or attitude Yes because actually it's very great standing up saying we support x. Or y. But how do you measure that and that's why her speech although it was unorthodox on the face of it you think Ok it's not particularly joined together but actually when you think about it afterward it was much more powerful and were there of the speeches the perhaps have made headlines that were notable to you supporting actress Allison Janney for time you actually opened up with a really good joke she said I did all myself which which got a great laugh but then actually went on to thank people and for me the significant difference is a lot of people say thank you to everyone but then she said Why so thank you to this person because they helped me to do x. Y. Said and you find even on the Oscar stage that 2nd part is missing from so many speeches and yet it's so powerful because if you don't explain to someone why you're thanking them if you are a bit meaningless I wonder if when we see people in these positions that they simply don't get to the 2nd part because they don't have time when they're being pressurized to keep the speech very short 45 seconds it doesn't allow for the Arts elaboration No And I think it's it's important to think about that before you're going to stage so perhaps rather than having 10 people in 45 seconds once say thank you to boil that down to 5 that make that more meaningful 2nd one I thought for live action short film right ascension for the silent shout she use my language I made a promise to our 6 year old lead actress that I'd sign this speech that my hands are shaking a little bit so I. I'm bipolar dies in a different and really powerful force so hats off to her because how difficult was that not only was she signing but also delivering a very powerful motor speech as well so I thought in it in a way of different medium and different techniques we use that was very good and then lastly got have a shout out for Original Screenplay Jordan Peele the 1st African-American to win this award for the Get Out mention a lot about his struggles but clearly that's a much more undertone for other people in similar roles and of course the big message of diversity and you think it's a message that will resonate further afield than Hollywood clearly this is a global audience for the show but resonate in a way that there really will be change I believe there will be a new find that a lot that events like the Oscars are platform millions of people watch them and clearly if change is starting to be here then it means change has to then be seen elsewhere and I know a lot of people will be skeptical because they say Hollywood is not the barometer for all feeling everywhere but I think given it is such a low ball event and the things we've talked about this is not just a message for change we are calling for practical ways for example the free nights financing of films practical ways that if next year if that hasn't realized change they'll be serious questions about Dr Ben lika on lies in the acceptance speeches were raw Joining me now is Kevin lamb Kevin is a filmmaker the co-founder of advanced tissue which is a wound care company that uses the power of foam to educate patients in the treatment of complex wounds last week Kevin was named by Forbes magazine as one of the 10 c e O's chief executive officers transforming health care in America Kevin it's good to see you nice to be here thank you for the invite so you live in a couple of different very very different worlds Hollywood and the world of of health care and I want to talk in detail about your work in health care and the use of video to try to get messages. Across but since we are talking about Hollywood and and the Oscars I'd love to get your take on what we've just been hearing about and I suppose something is the message of the Oscars this year and what happens next well thank you for asking I live in Little Rock Arkansas which is considered in the United States fly over and fly over is are the people that really are buying the tickets that are influenced by my film that they're the ones who are or being really have an opinion and when we watch the Oscars in the fly over states if you will they're trying to create a message and they need to be creating a film they need to be presenting the Oscars as you would a film something relevant important watchable entertaining something that reaching the public where they were sitting it doesn't need to be to my opinion this is strictly my opinion it doesn't need to be a platform where the most famous are trying to convince those that what they believe is the right thing I mean I think about it you're a you're an entertainer you're you're you're famous when the 1st time you talk about politics you immediately alien a 50 percent of the audience that you potentially could could acquire what's your Dolly Parton of the night on the on the air being interviewed and you know the interviewer kept trying to bring out the politics in her world and she says I do not talk about politics I'm an entertainer if I want to be a politician I'll talk about politics otherwise I'm not going to talk about it that's a really interesting perspective because we get often in this city of Los Angeles and Hollywood you get wrapped up in and everything and I think perhaps a lot of people forget those kinds of sentiments you mention that you're going to fly over states you know a very different world and so maybe we are and you know I'm in the film business but I'm also in the medical industry and you're right it is a book and I was talking to the driver that rough in the airport today and I said you know I'm going to I'm going to space where I'm in the medical industry in the film industry and you could not be any further apart than those to the film industry is continuously trying to convince others and themselves of certain things and the medical community is trying to convince really the popular. That they have a right and I don't know that I disagree with either side I just think they need to use their tools and their and their expertise and their notoriety very carefully I just before I introduce you to. Mention that you work in the film industry what do you do here in Hollywood sure I mean I'm a perfect producer most recent film was Marshall which early early days was being spoke about as being a possible Oscar nominee and ultimately we had a song that was was was one of the 4 finalists in the Oscar race and interesting part about about the Oscars in my opinion and please stop me if I get too crazy on this but I think that the films that you say that are there are nominated most of them are very small films or indie films or their films that have spent a lot of their budget to get an Oscar as a advertising tool rather than being like you don't have the royalty anymore the Ron Howard's and the Steven Spielberg you don't hear of them being nominated for Oscars anymore they just make a lot of money making relevant films that are important and they're not spending a tremendous amount of money that their production companies are not spending to mention a company money trying to get them to win an award and I think that if the Oscars don't pay attention to this under the understand and likers position is it's going to be better next year think about this my company the medical company if I went out into the broad spectrum and I talked about all of the dirt in the in the closet or the kitchen table talk. It's what influences I can have an anyone outside my community none but if I talk about that inside my industry inside my own personal world it possibly could have impact and I think the Oscars are taught in those in those acceptance speeches nothing they're talking about things that everyone saying yeah I get that that's right I have a daughter this is awful I have 3 daughters in fact I do think it's awful and I think anyone that says the me too in the Times of movement is irrelevant they're crazy it is very relevant real the movement but it needs to be gone about in a way that is not some star talking about their personal opinion necessarily about it and need to be talked about in a Grob broad spectrum that it's terrible that young women come to Hollywood to make it and they get they latch on to what they think is the shining star only to have their career be developed in a very inappropriate way and then it stops in a very inappropriate way in the only time they're brought to the only time it's brought to the forefront is when that person whose career develops and for their bullet proof and it's a shame so that's my perspective of the Oscars and you know as a as an outsider looking in and I guess I've made 14 films to make the 3 really 3 rate the actual releases marshaled my I think one is the is my proudest moment because it has such a relevant subject matter and I felt important Kevin hello is fraud here thank you for a good afternoon evening morning yeah morning whatever. Gosh I congratulations on producing one of the great moments I thought of the Oscar ceremony which to stand up for something your song from Marshall you know the film song that was just a showstopper with with under a day and the rapper I mean die and that huge crowd of people can you begin to explain that your movie is about Thurgood Marshall who is a justice on the Supreme Court what what about Thurgood Marshall got you interested. Well I think there's a bigger story than just the good marshal in my decision I was approached about this film several times and I found that the story was obviously compelling important to the world important United States race relations I mean put yourself in the in the area that Thurgood was was trying these cases hit this case was trying a black gardener for raping his employer who was a wealthy white female and you know this this young man had nowhere to turn he had no hope if he was convicted he was dead if he was found innocent he was dead in the same community and they're going Marshall could name a try the case appropriately so to put yourself in that position and to be able to to translate that into a civil rights movement and the things that really transform our country I thought was very important to be involved 1st Secondly it had to Ed had to be accurate I see so many films that are true stories or claimed to be true stories that have a truth moment but they don't have a true story and this revisionist history we learn by her stalker perspectives you know darkest hour Dunkirk those are accurate stories about very relevant times in history that we all have read about in history books but if that filmmaker had made minor adjustments in that story line it would not have been the same story and now every young person watching that film is going to be confused and ultimately the story changes so that there's no truth in it at all and in making Marshall I had to talk to the writers I had to know who they were found out there were the grandsons of actual Josh Gad character the white attorney so obviously it was going to have as much accuracy as you could possibly have and then reading about Thurgood an incredible black man who it would have the power of you know really his own soul to put him in the position it was and so it was of it was a great honor to be involved in the film and with Diane Warren writing such an incredibly powerful song shame she didn't you know she didn't win the Oscar that I have I feel like I mean I would have to fight she deserved it as anyone in my position would. Feel her sent of to are her discography is equivalent to 5 writers let alone herself I have a daughter in country music so when I look at Di and worn out my daughter who's also a writer I think my goodness you know how do you get from where my daughter is to die in war and you know a lot of talent and a lot of perseverance. So much of what you say. Please stay with us I know you will. Going to stop you from going anywhere we have to take a break. And we'll be back in just a couple minutes time with with Kevin who has so much to tell us it's just after half past 2 from digital online smartphones and tablets this is b.b.c. 5 Live The news comes from hell in place the Russian embassy has rubbished Boris Johnson statement about the suspected poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter Moscow says the foreign secretary should wait for the investigation to finish before blaming them both Trump's top economic adviser Gary Cohn is to resign the latest in a rapid series of high profile departures from the White House his decision to leave comes just days after the president said he could trigger a trade war by imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports Philip Hammond is expected to talk about how a future trade deal with the e.u. Will impact financial services Johnson said last week that it would be very difficult to see how any deal could be fair if it didn't include services and advertising a Standards Authority is taking action against misleading pricing by secondary ticketing providers hits found that $4.00 major operators weren't upfront with consumers about additional fees they were added at the end of the booking process P.V.C.'s for its own 5 life England can win the series with victory over New Zealand in their 4th one day international in the needin Kevin House is watching here a very good morning to $336.00 required by New Zealand to square the series which of course is the other way of looking at it and they've got to a dreadful start Monro and Guptill both out which is even 2 for 2 in the 4th over Monro l.b.w. To Mark terrific delivery from what you see and also lost the Review it was promised Well there's a very proud of you in that itself could prove very costly but Munroe failed to score so to Martin Guptill Scott well to Ben Stokes at mid-off the building of Chris works for the North so all sorts of problems now to try and stay. Themselves out of these troubled waters and came with Emson reminder that earlier England total $335.00 foot 9 including 2 sentries one for Johnny best one for Joe Root but also a middle order collapse now the wrestler sports news is Eunice jewel Real Madrid through to the Champions League quarter finals for an 8 successive year they beat League One leaders Parisa 31 in the 2nd leg 52 on aggregate and who else should open the scoring for the European champions in Paris but this man is looking short Christianity hurt their ears heard older can kill you is heard the story here put your piece very careless season over to the back should go that good but it had to be revealed but a joke ensuring polders the Real Madrid Paris so you know know the Real Madrid world well that was Goal number 15 in the last 9 games for an alto joining Madrid in the quarter finals all Liverpool have got through to the last 8 for the 1st time since 2009 all they had to do was protect their 5 nil 1st leg lead against Porto and that's what they did it finished goalless at Anfield and that was enough for manager. Really happy about that tonight big challenge for us to be honest in preparation just different to other games of course and I think the boys did really well we showed fantastic attitude a few pieces of really nice football and defended very serious. With the next Rantoul I don't need any more positives some big results in the Championship to 2nd place Cardiff wolves lead at the top to 3 points after a 21 win over bond while promotion chasing Aston Villa heaped more misery on bottom club Sunderland beating them 3 nil burning and remain in the bottom 3 of the Gary Monk's 1st game in charge was a one nil defeat to his former club Middlesbrough didn't quite make the best of the opportunities that we have we should have done better with them and really try to force a cross I didn't quite happen for us I saw a lot that I was very pleased with but there's also things of course I need to work on to help the team. And I make sure that you know we can get baritones things but the reason why I come here I think we all know what they're capable of some of forest says he was racially harassed by security stuff at a German Apple it's the full time Olympic champion posted a video on social media of the alleged incidents which took place when he was travelling from Munich to in preparation for next month's London Marathon and for Henri Sebastian Vettel was quickest on day one of the final round of Formula one pre-season testing in Barcelona lose Hamilton was 4th in his Mercedes. Ahead of 5 live up all night with Raj Shah. Here again with Peter Bowes and his guest Kevin Love and we're just getting into the range of Kevin's talent so Peter back to you Well yes let's Kevin talk about talk about your movie world the Hollywood world that you live in but I mentioned at the beginning that you work in healthcare you've touched on are actually named by Forbes Just last week as one of the top of the 10 C.E.O.'s transforming health care in America and particularly notable for the work that you're doing connecting people through these little customized videos that you make and they're delivered on rechargeable l.c.d. Post-college So get to that in a 2nd just to give. A little bit of background about what the company that you founded I'm sure to us absolutely this is subject I know a lot more about than I do the film business and I'm constantly changing entertainment space even though medicine is constantly changing as well sort of the company about 20 years ago and with a simple design that we felt like that patients that had chronic ones could receive their products at home in a single unit dose which is basically a package that's going to contain everything they need to change their own dressing and we didn't realize at that point that diabetes was going to be 6 blows world wide event you know the late eighty's there were like 48000000 diabetics worldwide now there's 480000000 diabetics worldwide we didn't realize that the obesity was going to age of diabetes Type 2 diabetes was going to go from the 66 is an average down to the low fifty's we didn't know the population was going to change like that we didn't know that the spend the largest spend in the health care community was going to be on diabetic related illnesses stroke heart disease you know obesity which is doing a Dr cancer in all the interests or just a plethora of tentacles that diabetes really creates a health disaster but we specialize in wound care because when care is something that is Direct has a direct cause from a diabetic condition usually lower extremity is where the blood flow is the blood becomes like a very viscous like of motor oil and it can't get into the smallest capillaries which the smallest Kepler's are what create a healing environment because oxygen oxygenated blood antibiotics things like that can't get to those locations so we started to see a specialty emerge wouldn't care and you have general surgeons you have a diet trist which is a huge driver in the industry along with family practice doctors and some other surgeon types that have gotten into the wind care space and it is growing so fast because diabetes is growing so fast and not only as a diabetic condition is going fast but the wound care space is becoming general practitioners and family practice just starting to see a wound on a person's. It's not addressed properly with the diabetes it's going to result in amputation and about 70 percent of the amputations can be prevented with proper wound care revascularization making sure that that wound is not doesn't become infected so what we've done is we said Good grief what why are people not addressing this more aggressively in the space where they addressing this more aggressively globally so what we found was we started doing surveys and we found that patients didn't fully understand what their responsibilities were when they left the clinic they felt like Ok the doctor is giving me something to do I'm not sure what to do so many call him back and find out how they were supposed to do this and we started to see the health literacy surface health illiteracy beginning to surface which of course is there is a long running problem of people leaving a doctor's office but not listening to probably what he said not taking the medication maybe not taking it every day or at the time they were supposed to and then becoming more ill. Well we found that and one of the things that our federal government decided to do is say you know what we're going to fine hospitals for readmissions So if a patient is readmitted into being very general be readmitting with a very similar condition that they were discharged with in the 1st measurable period of time the hospital is fined and they have to treat the patient free Well they don't realize and maybe they do but the patient leaves the hospital they don't know what to do a doctor's office they don't know what to do and they go walking barefoot in a muddy field with the wind on their foot and now they've got an explosive problem wondering. So we felt like that paying attention to health literacy was the driver and we felt like we'd address some of it with the unit does packaging with all the products that the doctor ordered in one single unit package that they could confusion would be less but there was there had to be more on this is where your expertise and your knowledge info actually comes in because you're using the video and quite a novel way to try to make it easy for people to understand what they have to do with an educational in this case with the bandages Yeah and not only using video we're using storytelling technology so when you were when we were both young we would Senator Graham grandparents or grandparents house they never told us what they did in steps they told stories and we remembered things based on the stories they told us well those are the same people that were told those stories just like we were when we were young or they were told stories and we learned that way nothing irritates people more than someone reading the instructions that's number one thing number 2 step one step 2 step 3 because you're going to forget so we really script our videos in storytelling so it goes from the importance and it tells them what to do and then the importance of women to see their doctor so we she does it for Kay it's very customized So every package that goes out to a patient has their own unique video that travels along with that package to show them how to use the products in the package and how to apply and ply them to other ones now I think what a lot of people might be thinking at this point is Ok you've got the packaging which the has the bondage is a video and they might be thinking well maybe it isn't an old style video maybe it's a d.v.d. It's not is it it's something way more simple to watch Yeah and that was an evolutionary process because we felt like that cute when we were in a meeting one day and we had everything in a bag you know and one of my cells people said why don't you make the packaging smarter had no idea I welcome the middle of the night nothing q.r. Code we can have a video that's attached to a q.r. Code printed on the package so all they have to do is use their phone to flash a Q arc reader and it plays the video well it was. Great idea but a 70 year old is not going to download a q.r. Reader and even I am not going to readily do it to your reader so we had to find a better way and a d.v.d. And all those things so the computer link and all that we had on with every possible application to open through a link email link through a q.r. Reader q.r. Code and now we've come to the point where we've recognized that there's even a better way to do it and that is you describing it as a video postcards video post you have one in front of you on it just shows Yeah it's not very visual list but we can certainly hear what happens when you open this packaging right so to describe it it's like a birthday card basically a think birthday card and there are cost effective we buy and box so we can we can do this but what it is is we've shot video on a card and we found we can ask a patient can you open a birthday card of course it's insulting to someone that is of course I can I would protect card Well our birthday cards a little different nerve it was called Smart Pad smart pack our x. So when you open this card it's going to let you hear this. I guess. So just to describe what you tell it is imagine opening a birthday card or a Christmas card and you can buy some cause the to have you opened and they make a for you so he sold me that and he was acquitted it's not kind of thing this is it looks like a thick card it's maybe half an inch just quarter inch quarter quarter inch that's all pretty much that yeah and it's driven by magnets on the magnets broken and they open the card it automatically wants to play in the well the structure of this is we have an actor at the beginning of it not to endorse our company we won't let them say the name of our company we're you know we're pursuing the likes of any actor that has type 2 diabetes that wants to be contributory in the betterment of human health we are approaching them about being a lead in these cards because we're not trying to entertain patients we're trying to create an important so if you had Tom Hanks who has type 2 diabetes come join us and open his card and you see Tom Hanks is. You have type 2 diabetes and so do you this reason you're getting that you're going to watch what's on that card so we have an actor that opens it up and tells him how important it is to follow the rules then it goes into a doctor that is coaching him through this while a man and woman the woman is changing the man's dressings honest but very realistic looking. Pretty disgusting looking but that's a wound and they're changing the dressings and it goes through that over and over as as different customized packaging so you're Kevin I'm just I'm just transported and I think about a friend of mine you know who for a long time changed the dressings on her mother in law's woods and I'm not sure if they were diabetic wounds but I know this is a major issue for a lot of people who do home care and it sounds like your solution would be would be very welcome to some of them you know who get the barest of instruction really from the doctor or than ours. We find that it is the caregiver is the one who benefits from this the most because they can go back and re watch and they're not trying to treat themselves but it's interesting about 75 percent of the patients with wounds in our in our practice or what we supply have diabetes but we're having calls from home health agencies who see about 20 percent of their population with wounds so if they send a nurse there's only 2 out of 10 cases that she's going to have a wound responsibility to change the dressings you can expect someone that that protect participates in an activity 20 percent of the time to be an expert and to know all the nuances of how to change that particular dress and so we're seeing home health nurses wanting to bring these into their into their practice into their you know their operation as well so it's we're seeing a relevance crossed the board you know from not of course I think but bedsores I was listening to a ted talk about somebody who has teenage are interested in the changing the dressings on the grandparents bedsores sounds disgusting but they actually far to really good relationship because of this. You know it's interesting you know being in the film business I meet a lot of interesting people and I was in New York I don't know probably 3 years ago and I was at this restaurant and a friend of mine introduced me to this gentleman who was a film investor and walked up and he hugged me when I walked in and I thought Oh my goodness what have I got myself into I don't know this man I don't know anything about this where I am and he said I just want to thank you for what you've done for me and I said you know apologize but I have no idea who you are and I apologize for that he's one expects you to know me but I know you from your videos on your website and still further intrigue him because he's a film investor and then I find out he's a plastic surgeon who had taken care of his father for 6 years who was dying of renal failure and he had horrible wounds in his legs and he'd been using our supplies this way before the video postcard been been using our supplies for 6 years so you never know when you're going to run across someone that you really did impact their life and frankly I can't take any credit for that I mean we have a team of people that do this he just I just happen to be the face at that particular point very moving though. Is this is it cost efficient for something like the National Health Service you know which is always faced with budget challenges to the issue wouldn't packs like yours. We think it is. You know obviously there's a lot of nuances when it comes to formularies and what drives certain practice behaviors and doctors you know doctors are a group that they they like to try things that are unique to them and they call it practicing medicine is not perfect in medicine so like to do different things and get different results because the human body changes so frequently we feel like that if if we could have a government funded program that has formulary driven formula driven with proven facts providing a patient tools to really perform their responsibility in their own care that there would the savings would be would be at Woodbridge would be enormous because patients would start to depend on themselves more than the government and other health care providers to seek care United States ers emergency rooms emergency departments become them to practice locations and you mentioned that you don't want the actors the actors don't mention your company name so in terms of the patients and the people who are actually using this do they associated with that doctor or with the hospital who they believe is giving them this insurance very good in a very good question we are starting to produce producer panels that will go between the actor and the actual instruction and we're shooting some doctors that want to have a specific message for their patients as the preamble rather than the actor what we're trying to accomplish is having the patient watch because if they don't watch they're never going to learn and we're just trying to do anything we can to make it compelling and attractive for them to watch just because you know your mom my mom is going to take this to every friend she has on her street and she's going to show it to her never grandkid and everyone that comes over for a period of time because it's a no no it's not a novelty in the novelty sense but it isn't awful to because it's because it's different well it's a novelty and the definition but the thing that we don't want to do is that to be a novelty it has to be. A useful medical device and we won't send these to every patient if it's if they have a very simple address and they're not getting one of these cards it's insulting to teach someone how to put a Band-Aid on but there's multi-layers with colleges an ALJ and it's an active have to get them Kunitz it makes sense because it is confusing a welder a lawyer a broadcast broadcaster have never been involved in the health care space all of a sudden have a wound in the leg the doctor just told him Peter if you don't take care that you're going to lose your leg it's pretty serious pretty quick because that's the one thing that makes us humans is our ability to walk what are the opposition's do you have in mind oh this is this could be just the start of something and we believe it is we believe that patients that need to know how to read labels diabetic patients and under the under privileged communities where they don't have a fresh market you can eat fresh foods or you can eat appropriate foods from a 711 or a convenience store if you want a real label we think we can we can put up to 2 hours with a video on these cards which is absurd to think we could put a movie on this no this these you can't because we have a small chip in him but the larger the chip go the more and we can also put chapters so we can put buttons Chapter 123 or hand washing personal hygiene exercise we have lifestyle videos so a doctor can give it to one of their patients and says you know teach tell them this is an exercise that you could perform in your condition we can model it after all of those things so we see endless applications from the entertainment industry to the health care space and presumably and 3rd world nations where there's no access to Internet for example this is idealism this is where the idea came from was Puerto Rico I was in Puerto Rico and we were talking about the conditions of there are diabetic patients which are 1000000 over a 1000000 Medicaid patients with diabetes and they really don't have the money and they don't have internet access so and some drive power at this point so we can send these cards home with the patient and they can watch and learn how to do things and the way it started was how to teach their children how to eat properly they were going to teach them the school system had not to eat a Twinkie. But if you show a mother what the Twinkies going to look like when they're 35 they get real serious about how they feed their children if they love them and they do so we believe we have the right message and the right activity in the delivery vehicle count how long ago were you in partial Rico I was there to benchmark I was there 2 weeks before the hurricane the big one that took them out right I just ask you. Know what the governor and everyone is excited and then all of a sudden we have this nuclear bomb hit the island it is they're still recovering they're getting better it's still very dangerous I mean it's 6 months now exactly since that and it's been a very very slow road back for them hasn't it we're still shooting movies down there believe it or not. We during the producing the film during the hurricane 2 weeks after the hurricane we went back into production for the people of Puerto Rico because they had to work they had a private place to live in our crew stayed at the hotels where their homes had no power so we were shooting film to try to create jobs and to continue the economy. My gosh. When you just to take you back I made to the idea of you know your film producer life when you're judging a film for financing and so on if you're going to do another historical film I was interested in what you said about Marshall you know and I was think about my own historical perspective on Braveheart which is somewhat jaundice to say the very least. What is your perspective I mean what what do you look for in financing a historical story Sure well if you watch Marshall it's a biopic but it's a very it's a very episodic driven so it's a point in time I don't we don't look for films that are people and he was a small child too you know when he's an older person or she is an older person I find those very boring and you can't really become that they lose their true ness if you will or their accuracy in the long span so we try to pick a biopic like Marshall which is a span of a maybe an 8 week period of the man's life that was very important to the world we've done others that and with others that we're working on right now or Also biopics we've got one actually called Paladin which I probably would control for mentioning it but it's about Churchill's selection of a young man to be a spy English by but it's not about the spy it's about this young man's life and how many layers he had with his father and mother and his 0 background and all of that but that's the in situ story look at paladins now but it's about about a 2 year period So point being as we look for very finite time periods and then we research to make sure that the writer is not making things up practically speaking I find revisionist history nauseating It happens all the time in Hollywood just for sales you know you can make something more exciting by creating a special effect but the event does not change because we learn from history in a form. Making things up were we don't have the same effect or with historical perspective 20 years from now 30 years 50 whatever this is a fast I find it fascinating So give me a bit and I do know the time scale then from when you will 1st get interested in the in a project like this to seeing all the checks and balances that you say you'd want to do need to do to actually seeing it on the big screen you know if I were watching the Oscars the other night yes I was one of the people that watched it you know in middle America and I don't watch all of it but I saw a large portion of my wife said Wow I thought it took you a long time to make a movie and some people tell me 5 and 6 years typically it's about it from the inception we find a script that we really like and it really hit overdrive when we want to make the film in light of the financing it's about an 18 month to 2 year from the beginning to ready to release it in some capacity and then it could be delayed based on timing distributors market timing so much selected someone's ass and whatever the scenario may be so we have to be selective with that so about 2 years response fascinated by your way of life with one foot in Hollywood and one foot in. The health world what do you gain from one or other of the worlds that will help you let's say in the medical world that you will maybe take back from Hollywood. I think the one thing one there are several things I take back from from Hollywood I think it Hollywood is a tremendously underused resource in war and the world I think our ability to communicate via film and audio propre a way to communicate in the right visuals is so under-served we use it strictly for entertainment and it's not should not be used for. That education should be for motivation changing lives you go to a movie your life changed forever when if you like the movie you think about it if you don't it was a movie or scene but I take back from movies is there's really nothing to apply in the medical space unless you've seen something that is intriguing that was visually prepared but I think that there's a lot to take back to the medical specialty technological standpoint in the way we deliver messages have you seen the blue planet I have not because I think that's what you talk about I mean I was a lot of people know I walking up to the risk of Marine plastics simply because I say simply because of this complex t.v. Series The Blue Planet which is just started showing on b.b.c. America so sounds like I need to watch it sounds like it sounds like that kind of interests you know interests between the exactly what you're talking but. I've seen really a bit of it it takes just takes you to a different world doesn't it and makes you appreciate that world and it takes us back to the mission of b.b.c. Which is to inform and entertain and do both at the same time and Kevin great to have you with us thank you thank you very very much thank you very much enjoyed it . Peter thank you. Thank you pleasure. If you haven't seen the video of stand up for something you really should just just Google stand up for something and Rolling Stone for example have it on their website watchable and it's a stunning.