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In the past March this c.b.c. 5. 1 o'clock am 5 lives were joined by the B.B.C.'s local radio stations across the u.k. Hello local radio listeners I'm Roger Sharpe The main news on 5 Live a teenager has been arrested over a shooting at a Florida high school and sport money helps Liverpool to 5 now when over portal another 5 Live website digs into that Boris Johnson fractured speech so you don't have to. This is b.b.c. 5 Live. Now with the b.b.c. News here some counseling Thank you Rod Good morning police in the United States say they've arrested a teenager suspected of opening fire at a high school in Florida killing 17 people and injuring others Officers say the suspect Nicholas Cruz is a former pupil at the Monterey Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland but as a student there I heard what felt like fireworks and I looked at my friend and he asked me if I heard that and I immediately I knew. Then and I went straight to the road that our school located on and I got there there was a slot cars and units police vehicles just brought in by helicopters over top of us Donald Trump's tweeted his condolences to those affected down North America register is John Sopel this is the 19th school shooting so far this year in 28 the president is monitoring closely what has happened in Florida by far the worst shooting and yet again those terrifying pictures of children running for their lives a builders' being jailed for life with a minimum term of 40 years for the kidnap rape and murder of his 20 year old niece cylinder crown was killed by Mujahid last year law in South London the 33 year old was also convicted of trying to murder a 2nd woman the president of South. Africa Jacob Zuma has resigned with immediate effect he had been under intense pressure from his own a.n.c. 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On digital and online I'm Rod sharp and we're up all night it may be more difficult for a 19 year old to get a beer in Florida than it has for him to get a high powered rifle triggers fetus full. Emotion and hopelessness like this tonight has writers of all persuasion should flicked on another pointless mass shooting in America the alleged gunman a former student of the Marjorie storm and Douglas school in the city of Parkland just north of Miami was carrying on a ar 15 semiautomatic rifle police say and many full clips of ammunition will hear the usual arguments about background checks and American politicians will offer their prayers as usual for the victims but 17 bright young people are still there. Well a u.s. Media report that at least 17 people have been killed in the mass shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas school and park one part of Fort Lauderdale just north of Miami Police say they are still searching the area for victims of 19 year old former student at the school has been arrested these students spoke to reporters my best friend was actually locked in a closet for a while I was really pissed because she wasn't answering at 1st but she's I think she's Ok national got in touch with police officers I wasn't able to communicate much with her I I'm sure she heard gunshots but I'm not I'm not sure what happened after her because after I heard those shots I just ran and I was off the property in the amount of 2 minutes I do have my cousin's actually in the building right now and my neighbor 2 of my neighbors are in still inside but they haven't been able to message me or anything all I know is all the kids came inside the rooms and I think they were teachers calling us and telling us to like get in the rooms and be quiet . Well the sheriff of Broward County where the school has actually sent his own children to that school Here's Scotus trail this is a terrible day for Parkland Broward County the state of Florida the United States my very own triplets went to that school and graduated from Stanford Douglas They played football in the process like I had that school so this is catastrophic there really are no words I have spoken to President Trump and he's offered the full power of the United States of America to help us get through this. We're joined now from Miami by the B.B.C.'s Luis Fargo Hello Luis Hello hello maybe it would be helpful to people who are just joining if you could step Astrue the events of the afternoon if you wouldn't mind can you tell us from you know the various statements that the sheriff has made and witnesses what appears to have happened. Of course this afternoon there was a. Shooting in the city of parkland which is a suburb of Miami of very wealthy suburb of Miami which you know very very ironic way had being actually disconnected the safest place in Florida last year very. Wealthy trying suburb in Florida apparently formers someone who's been identified by local media as a former student of this school and he went near the school grounds with an a r 15 rifle which has become sadly the weapon of choice for these types of situations this rifle he shot he started shooting at people apparently outside a school and then he went into a school again as you were saying before there at least 17 people dead local media are saying that there are 2 more people in critical situation hospital nearby the suspect is in custody and authorities are trying of course to find out more details of what happened what could have led to this tragedy here in south. Show there's a story that the fire alarm went off it wasn't immediately clear if he'd pulled it just to make more chaos apparently yes that's what the local media are saying reporting apparently the fire alarm was set off just immediately before the starting shooting started out apparently the this person was responsible for that is some local t.v. Stations have been showing clips which were posted in social media and reportedly shows the moment of the shooting in the school of course students it's filled with panic hearing all this noise from the gunfire just outside where they were sitting of course scenes of panic in all this situation which went on for quite a while and people also students being were being interviewed. Local media saying they had to spend what seemed like. Incredibly long amount of time when for the situation to to resolve and then leaving the building and being inspected by by by police which were trying of course to establish that there were no men no other active shooters in the area and had the police sites like moved into the school at the same time or the weather in there actively looking for him they shortly after apparently they started looking into it and into the whole the building apparently it took quite a while for them to inspect the the whole building again local media images showing students with their hands raised leaving the building of course and probably they were told by the swat teams to look straight and run outside of the building the whole situation of chaos of course and during this whole period this is a huge go isn't it it was a very large school thousands of students again a very very well respected school some parents were saying that they had actually moved into this neighborhood in this city just to go to this school in particular as you were mentioning that even the sheriff had their. Children there so a very large and very well respected again as you often say in this situation the last place where you could imagine that something like this could happen cautious So how did the hunt for the alleged shooter than on phone what happened what local media are saying again. Limited information about this they saw they found this person outside school grounds apparently and they saw that there were witnesses saw someone being taken in a gurney there's no more information about. The State of the of the of the suspected shooter right now besides that. All right but but he was he was arrested he was off campus apparently just outside campus that's what people are saying right now again there's lots of contradictory information air so people are trying to establish what really happened there right right so we've been getting regular updates from Sheriff Israel his is always a very communicated sheriff but. At this point. The. Police I suppose are just all over the school trying to trying to make sure that there's nobody still hiding in a cupboard or whatever definitely also local media reporting that the police is inspecting areas where the person with this suspected shooter lived again he showed up or images that have been linked to him in social media so to him with guidance and. Very very worrisome situation so Also police have been according to local media looking into the neighborhood where he was supposed to be living to make sure there were no other dangerous situations but he segues very much thank you and we may hear we may hear from Luis a little bit later on well as news of the shooting was brought to him at the White House President Trump tweeted his condolences my prayers and condolences to the families of the victims of the terrible Florida shooting the President wrote and that he wrote no child teacher or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an American school still the fact is that before the shooting today. According to a nonprofit there were at least 18 school shootings in America this year and since 2013 according to the same group called every time for Gun Safety there's been $290.00 school shootings which. Horrendous number by anybody's standards. As an attorney at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence hello and here hello Well you have a difficult job don't you I do I I mean it's becoming very clear I think to many Americans that our gun violence crisis is not normal and it's actually getting worse despite the efforts of many in our country to advocate for changes to our nation's gun laws you know. Just looking at the prevalence of of school shootings it's become it's become a case that the media reports our schools who saying if the if there is somebody injured or if there's a death but they don't linger on it the way that we would once have expected them to it's become such a Unfortunately a normal occurrence. You're right there's just been an unprecedented volume of these shootings and even just this year it's only February and this is the 18th shooting at a elementary school high school or college campus. So the number is going up but it's been pretty high since 2013 when there's been an average of more than 4 school shootings and every month in America do you see any trends do you see in these shootings any common factors. Well I think unfortunately one common factor is you know a person with an intent to inflict harm on as many people as possible which is why certain locations like schools or churches or concerts are targeted. But you know another trend that we see with school shootings are that young people are getting guns from their parents or from. A relative's home and so really want to area that could be improved is ensuring that adults store firearms safely in this instance the perpetrator was not a minor he was 19 and so then we start to think about you know whether stronger background check laws or or other laws designed to make sure that dangerous people can't get firearms could be strengthened. This particular weapon way we're being told already was on a 15 style weapon which is a basic battlefield weapon doesn't it which has been slightly modified but is very common. It is so only 8 states restrict access to assault weapons like the one that the shooter used in the majority of us States since a federal ban on assault weapons expired now in most states it's perfectly legal to buy an assault weapon and then even more disturbingly the vast majority of states don't do anything to restrict the number of weapons that someone can buy at one time which is what led to the horrific situation in Las Vegas where the shooter had assembled a arsenal of powerful weaponry what are the restrictions like in Florida. Florida's gun laws overall are are very weak they experience a higher gun death rate than in other states it's stronger laws. They don't Florida doesn't have any law requiring background checks on private firearm sales that are processed through a dealer and doesn't have any laws restricting the number of weapons that can be purchased at one time and it doesn't restrict access to assault weapons or large capacity magazines so you could I have a capacity magazine a 100 capacity magazine theoretically and that would be fine as far as Florida law was concerned that's right. Congress has put a lot of emphasis recently on putting armed officers in schools. Is that not being followed pretty widely Well it's certainly a trend now that there have been so many school shootings many schools are creating security protocols and having resource officers who are supposed to be able to respond to an active shooter situation but I don't think that's a fix for this problem because the problem goes so much deeper you know it's not just school shootings it's shootings and turgid it's shootings at concerts and really it's just you know people having restricted access to powerful weapons and being able to do a lot of damage in pretty much any public space. And on your part the Giffords Law Center what kind of actions are you taking to. To work for safer schools for example. Well we spend a lot of our time advocating for stronger state laws the u.s. Congress hasn't acted. To improve our gun policies and in many years and they haven't done anything for example since the terrible shooting at Sandy Hook. Which was in 2013 but since then a number of states have stepped up and have comprehensively tried to strengthen their laws on the Including by requiring universal background checks and making sure that guns are prohibited in schools and. Parents safely store their weapons so we've seen a lot of progress in some states in the last 5 years there's still a lot more progress to be made including in states like Florida what we seem to be hearing from the police is that they are looking at the suspects social media accounts to see if there were any indications do we find in these cases that usually that offer. It's very common for there to be indications before someone commits a terrible action like this. Especially with younger people there there have certainly been other school shootings including I'm at the u.c. Santa Barbara campus a few years ago where the shooter was known to be very unstable and dangerous and in that case actually law enforcement was involved but California's law at that time didn't allow them to do anything to remove that person's God And so we. Since that shooting have strongly advocated for policies that let law enforcement respond to red flags and warning signals like the one that the shooter in Florida exhibited. On a senator from the Giffords Law Center thanks very much for talking to us here Mary welcome. And a moment or 2 ago. Mentioned school resource officers who are armed guards who are now being placed in many schools around the country where we're very pleased we can welcome kind of the who's executive director of the National Association of School Resource Officers Hello Mr Kennedy Hello it's nice to be with you and nice to have you with us too. We don't know how or and if there was a school resource officer here but there's a very big school where 3000 students and it would be probably surprising if there wasn't but. In this case. I suppose I could ask you the theoretical question 1st can you fight this kind of violence with violence in a school. Well I'm not sure but that I was just biding violence with violence. Police officers which And I just want to clarify something school resource officers are not specifically armed guards they are certified law enforcement officers who bring the role of community based policing into the school environment so the idea of building relationships students with educators and helping to hopefully head some of the solve by getting good intelligence on it before it occurs but another idea that embers have local police departments they are there are actually local police officers and Miss becomes their assignment and that they are specially trained to do this assignment and to do this job in the school environment Well the idea here is that if an active shooter were to come on campus hopefully we have the opportunity to engage that active shooter and in that situation. I lot of the South in custody speculative on our part to this point but in a very big school building if you are the school resource officer or on of a big school campus in fact shooting could be taking place far away from you couldn't it and you wouldn't necessarily know about his say the way Absolutely you can't be everywhere the idea is to look at a school campus in terms of almost be in a if you will a small town and small towns typically have more than one police officer and we certainly advocate that there should be an appropriate ratio when talking about how many sorrows to have along with the number of students entering the building. But the officers are trained how to tactfully respond sort of the train had a tactical response if they hear shots fired in a building. So certainly they're going to move very quickly to that and attempt to do one that has been successful. In different school shootings one in California one in Colorado was House or others who had been handling gauge the shooter pretty quickly and stopped the situation from occurring. Well sadly that could have been the case today because it was arrested off campus but this is in fact it says that any of those right arrested off campus. What kind of what kind of response can you you know do you train to build around and teachers to make when they hear gunshots in their own school building. Well that's a that's a really fantastic question because that that's been a pretty hotly debated topic at times as to how far we go and in training students are training teachers and part of that of course depends on the ages student. One of the things is pretty standard in the United States is lockdown procedures were a school you know has a set of a lot of down procedures in place and the key here is not to just have those in place but to practice some on a regular basis just like you would have fire drill or a severe weather drill or an earthquake drill you practice those log down drills on a routine basis and we have certainly seen and many instances where those certainly saved lives. You know today it appears as I'm listening to the news as you are that what happened was that an off are almost pulled Well the typical drill on fire on is evacuation and so the shooter in this case that is inside what happened that exactly what he wanted so you know now we have to maybe take the next step and one of our alarm sounded to make sure that it's really safe to evacuated that bad in fact is really the right thing to do and of course then the balance there is if we hesitate and there is a fire act cost lots so you can see there are filling in some situations where there are very few easy answers. Difficult very very hard to to work that one out and in this case there was one eyewitness a young woman who was at the school who actually was interviewed by a.b.c. And she said she ran back into the building because he'd been told that the safest thing to do was hide in a closet so so as far as you're concerned I magine see she actually ran back towards the danger because he thought that was what she had been told to do. That again is the tricky part of this and 1st of all. There has to be specific training for students so they do know what to do and in crisis situations like that not sure why she ran back into the building but if the shooter was doing to the outside of the building then I can say that that was the wrong thing to do it that is in fact what occurred and if she's alive. You can only come to the summation that she did the right thing in that case but there are so many situations where it becomes it gets to the level of you know do you hide do I run is a potential that I wind up having to fight my way out of this it really is a stupid person but damned if you do damned if you don't. If you're in gauged by one of the shooters and with all the communication that we have of a mean everybody's carrying a mobile communication devices days is there a better way to use mobile phones in a situation like this I mean the students in the actual desire to call the parents and say mom you know something's going on in the school I'm hiding under a desk but should they be calling their mom shouldn't be calling some sort of central point so that everybody gets a picture of of exactly what's happening and where it's happening. Well you know our overall preference would be that the majority of the students would stay off of their devices at that time because if you can imagine 2000 students trying to access your service at the same time the same time you're you're bound to have a shut down or slow down the service and that can incite 1st responders to Certainly if someone is in a critical situation at the moment or they're seeing something that can be very valuable to our response we want to know about that so but you can see the difficulty in even training that into students. We've done a lot of research lately on you know the development of the teen brain an adolescent brain and how difficult it can be for them to process the condom information especially in a crisis situation so you can see again it's a training point that is very difficult to get across well indeed so here we are you know we're standing with site this we're talking about this in a cool rational way clearly when the panic response kicks in that's the last thing you that you're thinking is into the very very hard to think in a clear and organized way. Well it is you know as a career along force an officer I can tell you in any other law enforcement officer would say that you're going to perform in a crisis situation the same way that you train the training is what's going to kick in and a lot of it that you're not even necessarily thinking about you're just doing it based on your training. And that that goes all the way down to the student Lovell when you're talking about a lockdown procedure I've seen this work in a critical situation the violent deadly situation I've seen this work in terms of the law down process getting the security students in a secure environment to work or we're able to keep the majority safe. And that's just so important again that everyone is is properly trained in the oxygen. Well I know you'll be going as much information as you can in order to come to some conclusions about what happened here and it may take a long time but thank you very much Mr Kennedy for being with us. Thank you have a good night thank you it's just after half past 1 on digital on my smartphone and tablet this is b.b.c. 5 Live. The news comes from Simon Kelsey 17 people are dead following a shooting at a school in Florida the suspect Nicholas Cruz who is 19 and a former student at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School where the attack happened is in custody the president of South Africa Jacob Zuma has resigned with immediate effect he'd been facing a confidence vote in the South African parliament who is under intense pressure from his own party over corruption allegations the Charity Commission says it's met with officials from Oxfam as part of an inquiry into how the charities manages handle claims about the use of prostitutes by its staff in Haiti in 2011 and talks to restore power sharing in Northern Ireland have broken down with the Democratic Unionists and shouldn't feign blaming each other the parties failed to reach an agreement on legislation over the Irish language as unease on 5 Live and Ryan McCauley has a sport that thank you Great Britain's Dawn Parsons has just had his 1st run in the 1st heat of the skeleton of the Winter Olympics Eleanor Oldroyd is there. Well Don Parsons has been putting down some very very fast times in training Gere in the week here. Lots of talk about the aerodynamic body suit but not quite chance fairing it to the track today in this 1st heat Rob Hatch done Parsons in 4th place after the 1st heat so far as another 13 athlete still to go and throw themselves down this hill on the skeleton tray it was a slow start from Parsons compared to the leader who's from Korea been and he's up against a man who today has broken the track record so he's not out of it yet but it's not the start that he promised in training combined time over 4 runs down the skeleton track will win the gold medal the fastest time wins and still to come we've got Jerry Rice going to keep you up to date with that during the night thanks l.a. Jeebies women's curling team currently lead the USA 3 after 5 ends in their 2nd round robin much never pulled capped off a great week for English clubs in the Champions League as they thrashed Porto 5 nil Mohamed Salah scored his 30th goal of the season and scored a hat trick leavin your going plop thrilled with his front 3 completely deserved obviously does come back to very good and Roberta was there again after outstanding work rate again and so it was good and obviously congratulations but hopefully it will not stop in the night so the last 16 time Christiana Rinaldo scored twice as defend and champions Real Madrid came from behind to beat p.s.g. 31 B.B.C.'s Jon Benet was watching pressure off Xina didn't sit down and as so often it was Christiane or an hour ago who delivered for around Madrid when it mattered the most the crucial moment came just before half time Tony crows brought down in the box right now though converting the penalty to make it 11 his 100th Champions League goal for the club he made it to from close range 7 minutes from time Marcello scored a crucial. P.s. She said coach will ruin miss chances but sedans suddenly feels a lot more secure England what could keep her just Butler says Ben Stokes will be welcomed but again with open arms when he joins the squad in New Zealand Stokes is set to link up with the team after appearing at Bristol magistrates' court yesterday on a charge of a frame the c.b. Says Stokes is not currently being considered for the ongoing t 20 Try series which ends next Wednesday but then play 51 day internationals and 2 Tests against New Zealand in which he may be considered for selection and Butler's King back. I think. You know don't know too much about everything that's going on but you know just can't see Ben back playing cricket and I'm sure he's desperate to play cricket again he's obviously been a massive side for a number of years I think everyone's just really excited to have him back around the group and playing cricket on the c.b. Have confirmed that it's cities that will host the 1st ever regional t 20 competition and 2020 they are Southampton Berman in Leeds London Manchester Cardiff. Why not check out. This. Great and. We have. Always listened to the podcast but I do my cardio with power. To make one every week. And we often go games I think is such a profound subject I'm so glad we're talking about it. And Subscribe now across the u.k. This is b.b.c. 5. South African president is not the South African President Jacob Zuma resigned on Wednesday after intense pressure from his own party the governing a.n.c. Warned that if he didn't step down voluntarily he'd be for small office by a parliamentary vote. Of no confidence coming up later on today at a news conference in Pretoria President Zuma spoke of his deep affection for the n c and acknowledged that no one is perfect he also said that violence and division within the in c. Influenced his decision to step down head of time nor life should be lost in my name and also the a.n.c. Should never be divided in my name. I have therefore come to the decision to resign as president of the republic with immediate effect even though I disagree with the decision of my of the leadership of my organization I have always been a disciplined member of the sea as I believe I would continue to serve the people of South Africa as well as the a.n.c. The organization I have served my all of my life. Well this how can journalists north of term a garden has followed Mr Zuma throughout his career here is the author of Zuma biography I asked him to tell me a little bit about what he made of President Zuma speech well former president. It was a rather strange in many ways some of his speeches sometimes are because he went on for some time actually in the an ordinance or grant of time saying that he didn't become a leader of the ne and see and do his duty years as a lawyer or the n c cook or themselves carders loyal card of the a.n.c. . Because of his perks because what one of the points that been made is that if he resigns as he's just done that he will get He's perks. You know you spend ssion and all the rest of it and he spent a long time saying I didn't become a leader to worry about perks. But then he proceeded at the end of it all to resign so that he does get these perks and will be no motion of no confidence or any impeachment proceedings tomorrow as has been threatened did he specifically resign in favor of the Deputy President Obama poza Well that's effectively what happens. Because there's going to be no no confidence motion he resigns and that it pretty president automatically goes in as president or acting president. And did he say anything about his party which has obviously pushed him towards that. Oh he did he said a great deal but I mean but it was mainly of the sentimental. Or perhaps it was very sincere and I'm not sure that he'd worked for the party for most of his life was he 75 now so pretty much stronger almost 60 years he joined when he was very young and he's done these best he says and then he wishes everyone the best of luck and he's foretold his life for what's known as the national democratic revolution you know he was quite he was very gracious ostensibly Well actually that I mean you know you've obviously followed his career with you in the least bit surprised that this happened that you think he might make a further last stand I did I did and I did particularly during this speech because when he was talking about his perks forth he kept on saying you know. The party is one thing and but our Constitution is the other thing and I have to say the Constitution and he went on for some time about that as well and I thought he was going to say well sorry thrillers I'm a constitution me Little president and I'm not claim he stepped down I mean even when Fergie said I don't fear of leaving political life I don't Peter and I don't know confidence most motions. Also I thought there was a for a long time it's like work what you're in a boxing match you know I thought he was going to suddenly come out of with the other 1st and say oh sorry not going you know do your worst But having said all that in the end he said I'm resigning with immediate effect. Getting sick so the markets seem to take a lead from this didn't they I believe today yes whenever business hears that he might be on his way out to parlay the rand goes goes hiking upwards Yes I mean not to mostly but does string of. That. Is though then a sense of optimism as a result of his decision to go. There would be an enormous sense of optimism especially among the business community and especially among the big investors you know the big companies the big banking account and the stock exchange houses they would all be very pleased against which one could caution them that you know Sumit didn't become Zuma by himself. And there's an enormous I was just reading some pieces in the local press that have just come out and there's an enormous amount of vitriol. Which is now I am to him of course but you know he didn't get there by himself so I don't know if there's going to be a new dawn tomorrow but let's think. Term a garden joining us from Johannesburg Well quick look at the front page and I think it's fair to say that the 1st editions really don't reflect the scale of the shooting in Florida as a lot of focus on ready meals driving out rates of cancer that's the lead in the mail the times the Express and in the Telegraph the leaders the crisis in the Northern Ireland where the DEA appears now calling for direct rule we were talking about but later on and elsewhere the of all the 1st editions of the paper some of the I seems to have got the American High School shooting prominently on its front page of oh you can see it at the bottom of the page in The Daily Telegraph which you will read if you're in Inverness or some of the 1st edition delivery points if you're getting it on your morning table in Hertfordshire Well chances are the lead will be quite different We're going to lose the at the Daily Express sports pages with Richard Lewis Well it's a big celebration story for Liverpool. Fantastic Champions League win in the pool school last night Lady porter 5 Miller Why in the 1st leg of this knockout stage fantastic result study a man I scored a hat trick it's the 1st time. A recent knockout stages for 9 years ago why get a result like this of course the 2nd leg of the common a couple of weeks' time but not as a result send out. A big big message sport so there's no chance for him to come back in statements the rest of the clubs in Europe the Liverpool really mean business. You know it's great score isn't it for an away leg in a competition and a elsewhere on your back page Leicester City rubbing Manchester City out the wrong way yes it's an incredible story this is going to headline other respects going back to the end of last month on the transfer deadline day imagine the city try to buy less to stop Lyrae have Marez and I lost God still $65000000.00 must be sold to about 70000000 of credible figures and it never happened and Maurice m. Put in the transfer request that he didn't train at Leicester for almost 10 days if the story's been rumbling on. And he was unhappy that I would let him go now the Leicester manager told pill. City's sign the timing of City's bid for Maurice was wrong for the club for the playa I was a footballer and he said we need other clubs to respect show respect so if you notice what a Manchester City is as we say. Maurice is a star player and perhaps he feels it's own set of things that Leicester Mahler's is now back in the fold he was on the bench last weekend are likely when Les to play nice nice city and copy drive one of the lesser Neymar as back to his best and I think they're just hoping this whole thing has not settled into much. You know the story of the day and the great headline rule running what are you talking about well I can't be one thing let's go back to the 1980 s. When it was cool runnings when the financial Jamaican bobsled I think a place that Winter Olympics so this time is cruel running for Jamaica as our headline says because. She might have a 2 man women's Bob same in the Olympics the 1st time Jasmine finds a lot of Victoria and Carrie Russell competing next week but on this even competing the driving coach Sandra Carey heiress has left has left the table and word has it is that she owns the Bob slide the sled and she's taken it with her she's a German former Olympic and world champion there's been lots of issues it seems with inside the inside the Jamaican Saemon it seems both Christians talk to says that she has been a destructive force quite strong cause he's come out with again a White House side of the story but by the end of it either compete in next week and the problem is now finally Jim Mike has another slanted. Indeed so if you know of one let them know. That the u.p.a. Leader has said there is no prospect of bringing back the fall of government the Northern Ireland should inflation should fade and blames that the u.p.a. For collapsing the process which has been trying to restore power sharing for the last 13 months for its part of course that the u.p.a. Has other ideas do you pm piece Simon Hamilton says shouldn't fade we're not willing to compromise we have as a party made it very very clear that we were prepared to reach an accommodation our own issues of language and culture but that they must be part of a fair and balanced package at this time a fair and balanced package is not in our belief on offer. We have said that we were prepared to respect other languages and other cultures as part of a broader package we would respect those languages on those cultures in legislation and fan unfortunately and sadly have not exhibited continuing on for many years of an unwillingness to respect the British and Unionist identity in this part of the United Kingdom whether it is our our fly goal or whether it is the military or whether it is the very name of this country they have not shown respect for the Unionist British identity of people of this part of the United Kingdom. Well I learned more about how things came to the us from our own correspondent Chris page what the d.p. Have said is that their preference has always been and will remain in the ministers should be in place in Belfast to make laws for Northern Ireland but it's clear annoyed that they believe if that isn't possible then the Westminster government should take over they will say that Northern Ireland desperately needs a budget for the next financial year which is beginning in April Westminster is already had to step in and pass warm budget for Northern Ireland while storm it's been art of action but the civil servants that have been effectively bombing Northern Ireland while there's been new ministers in the devolved government have said they no need certainty for the next financial year to you so they would say the time has arrived when ministers in London need to take over the planning for public spending in Northern Ireland and making decisions on key issues like health and infrastructure because while civil servants have been in charge they have been able to make any major decisions so all those all made decisions have been piling up so we've had the d.p. Increasingly really over the last few months particularly the M.P.'s in Westminster calling for fully fledged direct rule if you like where ministers are appointed in London to take over storm and powers and while both the d.p. And Sinn Fein say they are still in the long term committed to getting power sharing back that certainly feels a very long way away tonight. Her or the rest of the u.p.a. Actually in Northern Ireland feeling about this you know their parties are committing them to be ruled once again from London. Well I think given the position the d.p.p. Are in in Westminster at the moment there may be a view among some elements of the d.p. Certainly that if there hoss to be direct rule Well this is. Not a particularly bad time for it to happen because the d.p. Are up the parliamentary pivot point there propping up the conservative minority government so their voice in Westminster is particularly strong on the other hand the d.p. Would say that they are very much a devolution ist party at the end of the Day Remember Arlene Foster the d.p. Leader isn't that Westminster she isn't a member of parliament she's a member of the Northern Ireland Assembly So if the evolution remains permanently in the deep freeze well then of course the big question arises What does Mrs Forster in particular do so while people are looking at direct role as being the lesser of 2 evils at this stage amongst the d.p. They certainly do want storm and back installment remains very important to them Well what about Sinn Fein Well Sinn Fein have blamed the d p completely for the latest collapse in the talks they've said that they had this far as they were concerned reached some kind of a deal with the d p an accommodation was the exact words that Sinn Fein still leader Mr O'Neill used in their news conference this afternoon but he said the d.p.p. Weren't able to close all right on that deal so as far as they're concerned it's the u.p.a. Intransigence that has resulted in this deadlock once again Needless to say that the people say should fear have been asking for too much particularly this key demands of an Irish language act as parties want a new law to protect and promote the Irish language they want a law that exclusively focuses on lots Unionists say they want a wider piece of legislation which would deal with ours but would also deal with other cultural matters that matter more to Unionists So even in the world of Northern Ireland politics where Ford is not exactly on common to think it's fair to say this issue of the i.r.s. Language has been a particularly difficult circle to square to talk about such I mean given that the Northern Ireland border with the Republic is right squarely in the middle of the brakes at the bit what happens to all that does that make it somehow easier from somebody in London to draw a line or are my. Well people here have increasingly made the point that as the issue of the Irish borders become more prominent in the brags that negotiations it's a very bad thing that Northern Ireland doesn't have a devolved government doesn't have political leadership knife others would say well the d.p. And Sinn Fein are poor opposites when it comes to Bragg's of the d.p. Are passionate Greg city or Sinn féin think the break is going to be a complete disaster for Ireland both Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic Nonetheless both parties would say that again on principle it would be better if they were in government together that they could try to formulate some kind of joint position on Bragg's that that would speak powerfully to the negotiators in Brussels whenever you look at the issue of the of the hour sport of the what's clearly going to become all the more prominent over the coming weeks as the breaks that negotiations are stepped up again while you've had this look at Stormont you've had unionists increasingly looking to London for leadership particularly given the deep peace position of Westminster at the moment you also have nationalists though I think increasingly looking to double in the government there led by the Irish prime minister over Rod Kerr who has really made quite a strong pitch to say he does regard himself as speaking for the nationalist community in Northern Ireland that he's been suggesting that he does see that as part of his rule that has led to a pretty touchy relationship in times particularly between the d.p. And the arse governments of the whole very complicated Bragg's issue here is the backdrop to the storm and still Mitt. And the prime minister and most of rock are actually in Belfast the other day they were there on Monday when they. Were they playing an active part and trying to shore all aside Well it's interesting whatever reason may and overawed care the t. Shirt once they were coming to Belfast a lot of people saw that as a sign that a brick 3 had to be closed because otherwise it all the prime minister wouldn't the prime ministers wouldn't come to put their stamp on the process that was the only destined to feel whatever the do you put he had been saying over the last 2 days in fact that the interventions of the prime minister actually was something of a destruction no I the way this might have been playing out in the background whenever the Prime Minister's Kim hopes of a deal were heightened boss on the other hand people that were suspicious of a compromise particularly unionist grassroots who weren't happy about the idea of a compromise on the highly symbolic issue of the Irish language may have been more worried about the prospect of unionists giving too much away in this negotiation so the message could have come back to the d.p. For example from the grassroots from their constituencies we don't want you to to move on the Irish language in the way that is being suggested and whenever that message did come back to the politicians Well that did for any chances of potential compromise being on the table so that's just one theory as to what was what was going on the perhaps the prime minister's intervention didn't make a positive difference in that sense but the prime ministers both Theresa May and leave rocker say they still very much hope for a devolved government in Northern Ireland and the suggestions of both the British and Irish governments is that they're not really contemplating any alternative to not. Chris page. Well I assume the. Far look at the morning papers and actually David you're leading on a story which is very slightly good news for the state of Massachusetts and it. Has long term problem which has arguably not gun control. Right it isn't gun control at all it's opioid deaths in Massachusetts and around the country the subject has has gripped many how the public health professionals it's gotten the attention of President Trump and and our governor here Charlie Baker and the news we're reporting tonight in the Boston Globe is that for the 1st time in 5 years there's been a drop in the number of deaths reported in 2017. Years a year or so they went down from around $2100.00 deaths in 2016 to around 1977 that's still obviously a lot of people it's still way more than that what the death toll was a few years prior but it is for the 1st time since this crisis really started to grip the state around 5 years ago a downward trend and public health officials were cautiously optimistic as we say but they did use the word trend there are some obvious this is obviously a good piece of news. But there are some dark clouds here the medical professionals we've talked to are saying they're still seeing a lot of people significant number of people coming in to emergency rooms and in for care with either opiate addiction or overdose what's occurring of course is that. There is a new drug called now locks only used by the brand name can that is. And yup that is playing a role to stop people from preventing people from dying and police firefighters and other professionals now carry the drug and people can buy it at a pharmacy so that's preventing people from actually overdosing but they're still they're still using the drugs which is the next big step that professionals would need to take to prevent this crisis from spreading and so they're not really clear are they whether the reduction in deaths is due to the increase in the use and availability of NACA That's right I think they're they're hinting that that has something to do with it but the prevalence of drug use that's the real issue here and that doesn't seem we don't have any figures that would indicate that that's actually come down. One little effect that has emerged along those lines is there stare are some signs that the doctors of the pharmacists are subscriber prescribing this a little bit prescribing you know opioids. Quite a bit less one of the issues that of course has happened is people are taking. Painkillers actually caught and for a legitimate reasons and are getting getting hooked or addicts are finding a way to get those legitimately provided drugs and using them for illicit use on the black market so a little glimmer of good news here but but we're not out of the woods. David thanks Andy. News in the past March for this c.b.c. 5. O'clock of a.b.c. News comes from Simon Kelsey the main news on 5 Live at least 17 people are dead after a shooting at a high school in Florida and in sport Great Britain's Don Parsons is 5th off of the 1st round of hits in the men's skeleton. This is b.b.c. 5. A former student has opened fire at a Florida high school killing at least 17 people and injuring others it's an act was carried out at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland 40 miles north of Miami police say they've arrested Nicholas Cruz who is 19 it's believed he'd been expelled for disciplinary reasons they came and he goes to the school spoke to c.b.s. Students. Saying to run run like don't stop this is immaterial but just around and white so I started running and then I heard what the gunshots writes software like fired all around and so I just started running around on our correspondent in Washington David Willis says President Trump has been tweeting about the attack he said that no child teacher or anyone should ever feel unsafe in an American school yet there's a lot of doubt here that this incident will lead to any sort of tightening of the gun laws for the simple reason that the National Rifle Association wield such clout research as a warning that ultra processed foods such as chicken nuggets and instant noodles are driving up cancer a.

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