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Radio Scotland with me Graeme Spears I'm standing in for Shereen one Jannie my guests today are the Herald's Mary Ann Taylor of the former Scotland people Gemma fee and the editor of The Big Issue Paul McNamee Hi everyone. Morning morning right stand by your banks Coleen Rooney a lot probably issues Boris breaks a parking levies extinction rebellion and more but have a listen to some of the week's big moments. We all have to we call it 17 it's you know probably something. Called some expenses this is an issue particularly from women men where to shoot one dinner suit one kilo but they wear the same thing all the time. Oh do you have to. Make through this grandchildren. Been proud of you. But at the same time please remember your roots my own team didn't want me to come to this event tonight because they said that there were some uncooperative crusties and protesters of all kinds here littering the roads if you don't have to get arrested you just have to I really don't think it's a good idea that units are going to get into into home without eating on the. Right all but more to come with me Graham Spears you can join the conversation online through the program using the hash tag Shereen But 1st to the social media spot that kicked off on Wednesday and became such a big news event that the secretary of state for international trade list truss included it in her address to a 52 cunt of parks at the Commonwealth trade me thing that has been a massive pull out between some very influential figures in our country that has divided the nation there's been finger pointing this be playing shifting and there has been you know Ailes but it's not wholly a Rebecca body. Right on Twitter. Coleen Rooney the way for when he claimed that someone using Rebecca Varghese Instagram a current had leaked stories about her to a tabloid newspaper really says she spent 5 months working out who was getting the information she locked her account don't certain planted stories she came up with made it into the into the papers and it became very suspicious Gemma fee what was happening I don't know what that means in the gifts were fantastic I don't follow either the social media obviously gets retreated in wherever ever and I was just I was actually gripped it was fantastic you got to know it was dot dot dot Rebecca parties yes just to be absolutely clear about this. Coleen Rooney claiming that the current of the back of r.d. To be legally cleared but she's coming in the story here and she of course was taught and said she's innocent money and it was called the greatest thing ever on Twitter was it ever I'm not sure I'm not sure I'd go that far but it was quite good fun and it was it was fairly direct I was in there and I think one thing that's been interesting for me colleen really really sorry is often seen as a bit of a walk over there's been all these affairs with our husband to Queen and all these things and you know she was she really she showed us she showed us a different side of our where she was seen to be quite smart fairly savvy if I was if I was a t.v. Producer I'd be be have an end to do a show you know where she solves unsolved crimes or something and. You know she's she's she's just seen with you know a lot of these people are viewed with a handbag and you know a lot of money in a very posh car but it was well read and she had obviously she's probably has a whole lot of staff and it was clear they were very being very careful they've had legal hadn't they Which is why they said from Cobar did yeah so yes her people had heard that legal but no it was it was quite smartly done it was a. Don't say into how you newspapers work because while for people maybe a lot of people hadn't realized that stories are sometimes are you know that not only find stories that's how journalists. You know journalists are close to well known people are limited Also I wanted to know that you know if Rebecca Vardy is indeed innocent I was trying to recall any time when somebody's private accounts have been hacked that's what they always say isn't it listen I've no idea of course nobody knows whether this that that's true or not but I did also wonder I don't know if anyone else wondered whether. They had it together or where the is this do you think you want. To see the video was and we you know I think Charlie not like then in between them would suggest otherwise and of column inches. Spaces characters wherever Paul I want to I wanted to ask you. Is this trash or desire kind of anal intellectually pompous response to what is in general I think that scratch and I don't think it's Trice I think I agree that it was a fairy cup of it and diverting and I'm. Going with my rounds. Of calling really is this kind of called Kiss the tech to go round and clean it up kind of treasury of yeah why generations not more. You know I do think she's not forensic what she clearly was she went through a. Document and the thing that happened and people aren't aware of this is that one point on Wednesday morning a post appeared from Coleen Rowley and it was quite a long post and people started tweeting that you thought this is a little peculiar and it was quite long you start reading someone's going on here something's going on and by the time you get to the bottom it is forensic because at the to yield exactly what happened over. Period of time and then I had the great reveal Yeah it was a brilliant piece of writing that actually obviously says Yeah a lot of stuff if you could put together like that. Before it's because it was like the opening exciting plot to a thriller wasn't it yeah and you knew then that something else was going to come in and make a party response wasn't long and coming out of the out it wrinkle is that she's heavily pregnant and she said that this is causing incredible upset and then. I think of r.d. You know another Danielle Lloyd or yet another. Minor She then played into it as well to add an extra layer that I've been following Graham clearly clearly. You know the other one is the one thing the one thing that's fascinating I suppose is that calling really knew she was doing a lot of what she and we really do is to try and keep things and to keep the press . What people have access to on an incredible level we really especially what she has done but she's thrown a hunger in it and that because she knew years suddenly she said this that everybody would be the focus and the like would be and I think it was a really clever manipulative move I think 99 percent of population were like. And then you cut to the back of our didn't you say sure. If you want to put it and noises that's probably what happened I'm just wondering if there's an. Element here of the spose as a female footballers. Ken of being celebrities we are in actual fact no celebrity or to exist you know but that's that's the same with Love Island and every reality t.v. Show there and then with the world of celebrity and what we interpret to be celebrities is war fairly different from what it was and just Britain as a nation love it in the same way that 30 years ago I love the Carry On films it's just we feast on this and it's noisy new neighbors sentiment that we absolutely love what's going on in other people's lives especially where they are it feels as though that life that they're having is well beyond us it's it's so far removed from reality that we're used to that we're allowed to get in there and find something. That is a moment you know you only want you want to have a few of those moments when you want to talk to your friends about show them and this one happens to be about footballers and that particularly elevated expensive lifestyle but equally it could be about others. When other people whether it's politicians Phelim stars or everybody who try and close off the public. That's interest but it's really a ball as well because there's nothing in that pool which is about being a watch money that the content of the ports is different but you could be sentence what a part and she did that before but it's something that people can relate to and can see the human side is not Darfur Speier either it's reconnecting are once again back to the public I think I'm correct in saying that all 4 of us in this room are on Twitter active or semi active on Twitter what does this say about the rule of Twitter in our lives no. It's addiction it's color it's froth it's trash what does it tell us about Twitter Well I mean it was on Twitter but it was also Instagram it happened. Both places and what that says is that the 4 of us were can assert in certain industries for which we think everything is happening on Twitter and everything is happening on Twitter but I would also point out that there's a whole lot of people out there that are not including a lot of young people I found quite recently are not on Twitter and are not in this one old so they're maybe not seeing these things but it also speaks to me about friendships and and arguments being played out on Twitter which of course we're seeing all the time and we're seeing that in every aspect of our lives not only in this and if these people were genuine friends before I knew I just said earlier that I've wondered whether they were at it together for a published this guy but if they were genuinely friends before then then that well heart yeah and so these things are increasingly being played out on Twitter and on social media rather than than in real life and it's the way this leads. To an awful lot population on Twitter but it's a way that it's moving the stories moved on others too from Twitter to old media because this has been front page in the sun for 3 days the sun which is the platform with the stories are supposed to be installed in the 1st place so you could clearly know exactly what's going on but are most going the sun are getting different angles on the Get your friends it's not so it's not just on Twitter and yes the fact that we're on to as a reflection of how we live but an awful lot of people aren't Let's move beyond their Ok Alyssa wait next week for the next installment of what was called wagon for Christie. The quarter's by going to conclude there are 4 that are the decision to provoke breaking the news from b.b.c. Radio Scotland. Was unlawful This may not have been the smartest thing we've ever done I told Miss judgment I have instructed the panel to prepare for the resumption all brought from federal b. 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Radio Scotland with me Graeme Spears a chilling look at the activities of so-called pick up artists cars pathway to a deal for breaks it and banning eating in public but 1st I'm here with my guest Gemma fi Mari and Taylor and Paul McNamee And guys I want to hear moments of the week a gem I'll come to you 1st Ok mine is an upline in place called Freedom stadium generalises you know it's an Iran so on Thursday it's off let me follow context there's there's a grip on Twitter called Feet stadiums and for the past 40 years females and Iran have not been allowed to enter football stadiums to observe football matches or seen this yet so an on 1st day 1st time in 40 years woman 3 and a half those and women more load than to see Iran take on Cambodia in our World Cup qualification much and to Rand's the stadium that the few games lead into the dim sum to eat those and see just him so quite quite a watershed moment yeah it's a little bit 10 just because. This is based on the background of I don't know if you know of the blue girl I woman called. Darby I got a name right there Sue Sue 6 months ago set fire to self made a court you know run because she was facing imprisonment for 6 months because she tried to enter the stadium to watch a game with a blue bag on and dressed as a man and that created even more uproar and 5 got involved in it and then an iffy except except for for the 1st time in 40 years on Thursday women were allowed to enter the stadium watch football which was in fantastic kind of but which is played out in the background is on the 30th of October says $78000.00 seats or stadium they released 3500 tickets and they were sold instantly there's only 2500 meal tickets sold but they refuse to give any more to the females The 2nd thing is. The member song by species the female of the species is more little a male This must play it around because the critic each for them so a cordoned off area where they could escape from so they could observe observe the match so I think that the reason why I think it's important my background is football and I think football supporters as is for all and we sometimes bemoan the fact that we can't get closer at the ticket prices it or I think we should just rejoice in the fact that we are free to do that in the 1st place but I think it's important to highlight the struggles are still ongoing and in thesis I think these world around about people who can have access to the most basic things they said a lot of publicity this market has because there's been a huge a huge movement and I don't mean has happened yes and some really fundamental strong people both both men and women trying to push this issue and the reality is this they think is a one off Ok thank you that's interesting Mario until your moment of the week and another one related to sport actually And breaking news moment it happened just about and I don't go m. Elliot chalky from for from Kenya has just run a modified in under 2 hours he is. The 1st person ever to do so and it is just the most extraordinary moment I would urge anybody who hasn't seen the footage to go and watch air right now and he was ecstatic he was exotic but I felt quite short yes watching it it's one of those moments a bit like you know humanity on the moon the moon landings where you realize the extraordinary human feat that has been achieved yet and what is so extraordinary is we can see from the 5th edge if he almost doesn't other lap of honor Yes So it's just been it was to be entirely 6 miles in one hour 59 minutes and 40 seconds and he's running around as if he's you know it's like he's just got over his bad but you know when you see the way he goes his wife all huge number of huge number of supporters it's a really important moment and you realize for that nation and the have a lot of internal strife for you there runners their athletes are just sort of loved and what they do for that nation is quite amazing and what he has done is extraordinary and gosh I'm quite emotional talking about actually you know you won't talk about you talk of a important moment feeling chalked I mean my if I can just put this in very briefly my moment of the Week this week was interviewing Francois Pienaar the World Cup run place with Africa World Cup winning captain from 1905 John a spark and he spoke about Nelson Mandela and that probably the greatest moment I will ever see in sport Nelson Mandela a black man pulling on the tested Springboks Jersey and cheering wildly with the crowed so that after winning and everything is said about forgiveness and love and moving on. And Francois Pienaar said to me you know I just wish I could hug him he became a friend I wish publicly I told him I don't think I'll ever see anything more moving or as you were saying emotional than that in the world this was Paul McNamee moment of the week minus less support this this week I went in to talk to a school to a couple of schools in Alexandria in Western markets or. If I get a fight I'm going to say I enjoy doing that it's. Always a challenge because 9 year olds in a room they're not going with what you're saying there is no pretending they are literally Ok where the toilet breaks come up and increase hugely as their tolerance decreases so you know you're on a knife edge thing and how is this going to go and by the end the talk of the bigger issue about homelessness about journalism and about possibilities and futures and all these kind of things and West important it's an area that this particular challenges economically socially I was more than happy to do it the toughest question and then leap from the kids there was Does God have a boss I thought you were in the mystic here that's. Ok did you say that well. I thought for some time I was a Catholic school so I thought I could try because you think you don't get to the theology so I said I think God is a boss. Does not seem to be done but the. I think it was quite interesting there were other questions for a lot of them that the idea of journalism or that kind of career or life hadn't occurred they weren't really sure what it was and why that could be for them and I was walking I got a couple of kids to walk me to the front door and just as we got to the door this little lad looked up and said I want to be a journal. I will I Bangalow Well done Paul Well one thing I don't know of the door was open but there were you must have inspired them listen thank you for these anecdotes No we're on tenterhooks here to see of Scotland's much against Japan in the Rugby World Cup will go ahead due to typhoon Hagood verse world rugby will do an inspection of the stadium tain pm our time tonight with a decision expected within before midnight on whether the game we played there already counsel to Saturday games and to clear them or draw and I repeat I repeat would mean Scotland's exit from the World Cup and Scottish rugby are going to challenge this legally listen just will touch on this for a couple minutes it is extraordinary I mean I've seen Scotland sports teams be blown story of international tournaments by incompetence and lack of ability and lack of organization but never by a typhoon Jemma what's going to happen here would be fear if the game never got played against Japan I think nobody knows what's going to happen. I think unpleasant in fact that it's probably the biggest storm that's going to hit Japan in 60 years but saying that it's probably not to do with a storm has to do with Aftermath and whether or not technically making the game can go ahead I think. It's really interesting in sporting competitions I remember and the 20 Think of the 2015 European world European women's football championship. The fact that the quarterfinals and actually one of the eventual finals Denmark got through to that stage by having their name pulled out of a hat it was a the Russia was Denmark because they'd gone through they had equal everything and at the end of the that's that's what was decided and the rules stated. Some bizarre ways in which to could include to conclude sporting competitions but I think. For some measure you can expect. Some sort of weather conditions they are there in the typhoon season is the very end of the typhoon season but I don't think anybody can predict the biggest storm in 60 years Ted Yes I think probably the kind of receiving grace perhaps is the fact that it is actually a typhoon which comes on and it was like yes really really quick I was I was making later of course a serious issue here of life safety of course that's the. Priority it's an interesting one there isn't it but I mean it's gone they're in there in poorly with Island Japan Russia Japan or top if the point is if Scott need to be Japan to chance of going to the Court of the new year and if the game is cancelled is to clear the draw and scope and come home and the s.r.u. Are lowly bleating about it for the Scottish media as are the fans. Paul shed some light on this. With my grit rugby insight and expertise the thing that I find interesting is that major sports bodies and their determination to take particular sports to police is where they clean and they want to develop the more yes are going to run these risks of either extreme weather events or other issues more and more we know what's coming with the Qatar World Cup because of the weather there yeah because of the climate ready stadiums that they have to up to that it's going to cause a problem going to play a major and I saw a sporting event in the typhoon season and the police I think that that was asking for trouble but that was clearly in order to bring the sport to develop and new places yes Nations you know I think that the authorities have got the bear a lot of responsibility here and if they are going to take it to these particular places whether it's because of Typhon or well it's because of extreme heat in Qatar they need to accept that these problems are going to come up so high are they going to do you know cope without and the other way guys here's the way they fall we move on here's the way the question I want to ask you it's been a terrible week for Scottish international football is proving a difficult week for Scottish international rugby is international sport a sign paused to the health of a nation. Is important does informers and enrich us culturally about what we are how well we are hope healthy we are if our international teams are doing well I think it's creatively our I think we want our teams to be where we want to take some kind of a parade and get behind them I am talking about Martin are going on for 2 hours and how that could instill particular happiness and identity within the nation and I think that that is the key is whatever the sport is however they're doing well the pray that Scott's. Team qualified for the World Cup got there. Were competing and doing well but that was something that will then come back I think it has a lot to do with that and of course on the other side of it is when things go badly it allows us to really hammer them say well we always knew would be like that yes yes Ok Listen let's move on but if you're listening in Tokyo hang on to your hat because it's a vote to get windy this is your brain on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. No to a special edition of b.b.c. One Scotland investigative programme disclosure which this week aired b.b.c. Scotland journalist miles Bonner's investigation into game a multi-million pound global industry selling men pick up techniques to get women from the street into bed as quickly as possible the B.B.C.'s investigation has already led to the conviction of a Glasgow based pickup artist Adnan Ahmed and the net was weighed into London where Eddie Hitchens runs St based coaching sessions and a related website on the approach to leaping age for a $47.00 I find what age he says is a secret recording often packing up and 18 year old. From a cold approach on the street taking her to a coffee shop and finally to the bedroom where. Eddie upon only secretly records the sound of them having sex. Eddie goes on to describe as 14 ways to help men overcome so-called last minute resistance this is number 4. If she says that things are going a little bit too false he can reply with. I understand. The couch and says they carry on escalating. I have tried to get edgy and Richard to give me an interview without success. So in coming to speak to them another of the London becomes a high on my old one of the b.b.c. Remember me yeah you teach men how to pressurise women not the sex so how do just as I be not on the business head as completely wrong give a video idea that says when you came to our Someone saying this is too fast car do you want to escalate you have put it completely out of context what sense is growth it's an all this it's an odd one completely consensual we do not we actually help men we actually help men so if anything we prevent rape culture. Right that was the seduction game reporter Miles Bonner I think produced or directed by Shelley Joffrey still available on the b.b.c. I Player This was brilliant I find this brilliant gripping viewing Marianne what did you think of that yeah it was absolutely gripping I had I had 2 reactions to this one of which is the obvious I was very shocked by it and this is just harassment of women this is what it is it's harassment of women and I'm sure that well as we saw in the 3rd where there were arrests made you know there are laws against much of this and the language used here was extraordinary in the objectification of women and the at one point. Made said listens to listen to her actions or body nor words I just found that extraordinary there was all these phrases like same Daily's. You know last minute resistance escalating. Farming it was a widely that was later on and it was it was but the use the use of filming was was utterly shocking as well I mean to you know to think that they were I mean so this is harassment and as I say I'm sure there are laws but there's another part of me these people are so sad what is or is they are to have to have to go about this like it's clearly for me a reaction against things like me too and things like women having more say in their own lives equality this is a reaction against There are a certain section a small section I would assume of men who really don't like these are losers they are sad they are utterly pathetic and we need to see them in this way as well I don't think for a moment that the vast majority of men would find this either something they would like or something that they would find funny I just wanted to come to both you German Paul. I mean Paul it was as as Martin said it was the it was the arcane language that struck me I seemed to leave a number farming escalation when you trying to show you kind of forced sex upon the girl or the woman gaming even even the name pickup artist it's got this kind of almost quasar I acceptable language around it and yet it seems like sleazy and trashy and disgusting. I mean there are poor and low creeps they. They've somehow convinced themselves I guess that they are these low bar Ayos who men will follow he will show you the secrets to the. The the method all Kingdom beyond which is other buncombe. The just the need exposing it continually exposed and they need people to laugh at them to say that this this is not the way that you deal with other people this is no way to talk to people is no way to talk to woman that's not how you do think you need somebody to say that and to expose them as my husband I was doing here but then I started to think who is this for what they've been so successful that that allows us to grind and I think that there are certain blokes who have no confidence no self-confidence the they think that there is no chance with a woman and rather than have somebody. Decent near them saying look you will be fine just be human going to some decent dignity and open your yourself up that way rather than have up beside them they think here's a quick fix for somebody like me therefore I don't have to worry and them it's their on line it must be true I've seen these guys do it that's who they're appealing to and I think that it's important that while we we condemn these bloods wonder in a boat with their cameras and the smug look on their terrible language. And while we do that they always say they think oh do we change it so that young man don't think that this is the only way to behave we have to we have to say that there's there's a simple alternative a better alternative Well I mean Paul slightly in that context I wanted to ask a dangerous question here is there any defense of guys who want 6 trying to procure it in this way I mean somebody along to me somebody somebody somebody alarmed me in midweek missing game I saw and it was disgusting but you know was in a club men got to get on and try and Budget them for sex it was on every evening of the week in a club and he said people laugh about it and I can pause for thought I thought Well Ok but this is different this is a systematic Nottage industry on the street yeah this is this is predatory and both since they're all it's preying upon women who have no knowledge of it and it's preying upon exactly that men who have who lack confidence who would increase in living in a society and not come on to later on when we don't talk to people it's all done vertex and everything so if you if you're if you're a young man that perhaps lack social skills or doesn't have that confident you're going to cite the line which is consistent across sites across is the language of that. So what I'm talking about business is the. It's normalized it's packaged in a certain way you can buy certain packages or experiences which are akin to how you would work and within any legitimate business it looks plausible exactly as plausible and then then you get there and then these pick up artists are creeps are predators wherever you want to call them are talking in a way and operating in a way which is of a business like way then you get caught up in something which probably against their better judgment when they're there I would hope you think is Ok to do because it's been normalized. On. I think it's terrible to to prey upon both types of people in that way and ones that are that recognize that what's happening in their opinion for a service that they think they perhaps believe is a legitimate legitimate service and those who haven't knew nothing about it was that yes I mean I presume it's not just women and girls and something young girls who are being the victims here men that they're see are being scammed here signing up to something on the film for this this bizarre expression boot camp sending up to the boot camp 2 days on the street been shown to do their handing over 600 quid in cash monthly there's there's a weakness that's been identified in society right now of an ability he would say I'm not defending men who go to these things but I can understand what their target market is that target market as unfundable target market. Would I would I don't know the figures I would guess they were quite young guys when a certain age range that had barely nor know very little or no experience of of dating or needing with women in the mass to have to want to go and something like we I'm pretty happy to see that this character made the a game has been found guilty after an earlier b.b.c. Investigation this bloke Eddie Hitchens who featured in the film struck you as your original dog here in London but the other guy Richard Richard who'd a Paul and I and I can a smarmy can away the end of the film he could almost pass himself off as being a decent affable guy so what you know that I don't think I don't think about is any kind of saving grace for him a van with and that makes it worse because if he that means he's some kind of. Psychopath but he can he can behave in this way and then at the same time adopt the the norms of ready society I think. If it if what you're getting out means that he possibly can see through this he should know better will learn he should stop what he's doing but if not then he's just. Kind of boring Cretan I think it was interesting to the way women were and often the and preyed on very young women obviously we could see that but the way they spoke about women is that all women think like this all women have this and motion button this button that button 3rd a lot of experience of human beings was just breathtaking really and then what you also saw they create upon was that many of the women they approached specially younger women they didn't want they weren't sure what was happening the were trying not to be rude to people so they just said very little and they saw this is some sort of green light yes then to go on but when you spoke to the women after they've just said look I didn't want to be rude I didn't know what was going on if I had known for a minute I would have right away just told them and that's what we need to we need we need to stop women also feeling younger women like they are going to be victims all the time this sort of thing is not helping about yet because it might affect their reactions then to normal interactions with men but we need to help younger women not see themselves as victims and that's what made me very angry about us Ok well it's time to move on but this was a brilliant expose a this is the seduction game is available on the b.b.c. I Player more than you talking this is your meaning on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. Great Still to come here on b.b.c. Radio Scotland with me Graeme Spears the Lord provosts clothing bill that ruffled many feathers paying to park at your work and the tactics of climate protestors there and choose the things were looking pretty bleak for the possibility of getting a breakthrough deal number tain clean that in a phone call with Boris Johnson Angela Merkel called the idea of the. I think I deal through course overwhelmingly unlikely following the news are mean Prieto by the brakes a campaign group leave Doughty you received widespread condemnation alongside an image of miracle where the words we didn't win 2 world wars to be pushed over owned by a crow it led to some heated exchanges in parliament and the minister just to pause and reflect on the deliberate dog whistle Briefing put out by Number 10 against angle Merkel the German chancellor in a phone call that apparently has reported between herself and the prime minister which of course has then sparked a series of frankly racist attacks against the Germans from leave dark e.u. And others this is an extremely dangerous course for the government to embark on and I want to hear right now the minister condemn it and distance himself from it I take the opportunity at his disposal to entirely dissociate myself from any sort of race is called demeaning language towards Germany they are our friends our allies they're a great country. Right that was Michael Gove condemning the levy you tweet co-founder aren't banks later did apologize about the offensive content and it was removed so in the context of all that we might not have been expecting much when Boris Johnson and his Irish kind of partly or Vereker met to try and negotiate the sensitive issues around the border I had a very good meeting today with the prime minister and our teams together. Very positive and very promising I am no absolute convinced that Delta and Britain want there to be an agreement that's in the interests of Ireland of the United Kingdom and to the European Union as a whole and they do see a pathway towards an agreement in the coming weeks we are good question could we do to Darkling the British team to marry 2 degrees 97 numbers have been or 100 breakfast. Period and the fire had already shared a 3rd. Trick she feels like climbing a mountain. We need a rigid and determinative confessions latterly we had there the Irish tee shot and I don't know who the bloke was shown in the back row and that I was Michel Barnier the e.u. . Negotiator Good grief we've had on Boris and breaks that we've had conversation and maneuver and negotiation. Are we going to leave on October 31st Somebody tell me Gemma I reckon we go to the for women's 2015 can go to law spent just a lot. Less. So ridiculous anybody that says they know what's going to happen is lying because nobody knows what happened even even those are involved in it don't know what happened but what I would want to address is that the levy tweet is absolutely unacceptable to think that this is what this is come to to to go back to our rhetoric around the world wars for millions upon millions of lost our lives and I just think if that's where we're going if that's where this country is heading on the back of us I don't want to part you know what Paul it was extraordinary this absurd use of the word crow it was like it was as dear David there on of its root in the times it was just a total misreading of young decent. Informed British people today we've moved on from that just that language junk of the something some way they solve Garn age clearly not I mean. There's some of them clearly are that's kind of. Corrosive Nass the dark anguish nationalism has taken grip of the brags that the art of that is that as I was driving it and the when it got there that. It was it didn't really come a surprise because when you've got poisonous little self-serving smog are big goals like Mark Francois as the people will vote to deliver this message that's that's were evidently goes that's an articulation yes of once they have been building up to they have not been scared use this language before they were white or Britain thought the tweet was trash. Anybody who is not. Of that particular strain of English nice Alyson will think that it is Trice and think that it should be not away and it's what it signals that is that is particularly disparate and and scary because as Jim says if that's what is common then we're in a really perilous the I don't know of that accelerator that Boris Johnson's desire to run to. For occurred to see if something could be done. Who knows there's so many different things going on and subterfuge and kind of clear but I'd like to think that on some level he thought we can't ally the country could go into the pet must we must do something and know whether or not we leave on October 31st it's as possible it may be that you get close to it and he asked for a technical extension but it goes Phyllis or there's something a little more positive happening around and perhaps yes even though it's basically Teresa Mayes with some other budget is all the elements around it whether it's pro brags that he brags that pro confirmatory referendum rebel alliance kind of member all the rest of them but it would be whoever wants the least bad option that's what we will get then you then you're void heart breaks the news wires were suggesting a slate Boris Johnson you turn last night. Where he was conceding that there cannot to be a customs border on the island of Ireland when I was previously to the backstop I was to go I'm just wondering if Boris is blustering perish the thought isn't the law stronger than bluster and will the banner act I see debate about this that we could find a loophole in the bin Act which is meant to prevent leaving with no deal come hell or high water and have a grant an extension I think this is this not what it's all about though that they know fine well the probably isn't a loophole I think that's why we've seen the leaking of the memorandum this week with all the awful language of oh ho we're going to we're going to stop the you from doing anything we're going to do this we're going to talk to hungry and get hungry to do this or there's about this I think they're absolutely desperate they're making up as they go along everybody's making up as we go along I think at the moment but what this also shows Johnson and his his camp their prime. Their prime him is for him to be elected Ok And for him to get elected they have to they feel they have to be seen to in their own words we have to get bricks bricks done so this is all they're going towards I don't think that this movement on a deal necessarily means it will happen because what we're have to remember is this deal then has to be voted on it's still a bad heart breaks it deal so if you were from labor or from the s.n.p. Or from the or from the Lib Dems would you really vote vote to pass this deal which will be very bad for your constituents and saw whether or not there is a deal that's one matter whether it manages to reach it through parliament this is still all going towards a general election Johnson and his cabal nor this and that is all their focus is on so all this smoke and mirrors this week this wheeling and dealing. It's all about trying to get him elected every time I listen to a politics programme on the b.b.c. Or on Question Time or and Radio Scotland or on any questions or Radio 4 I keep hearing this phrase parliament has failed everybody says it parliament has failed us I wonder actually if Parliament is succeeding. That the parliament the collegiate body opinion of parliament is going through this and is not allowing is actually not allowing something bad to happen is part is parliament actually sick succeeding not feeling I think it probably is I haven't bought and the argument that there were 3 years to sort this out we blew it because there was no. Other party's broadened to be about what was going to come next initially by Teresa Manor government that meant that it was essentially a one party decision on a governmental the station so her government field in how they approach the go CAC and how they approach what happened next there was the feeling or if Parliament how to be involved in the 1st place who knows maybe we would have left on the original the maybe it would have been an agreement and maybe it would have worked functioned manner so I think you're right I think Parliament while it's frustrating that Myla Phillis or those double M.P.'s there they go again they don't know what they're doing well it feels a bit like that I suddenly with the idea that they're actually doing what they should be doing jam and you want to add some input and we move on to final point I want to make is probably all comes down to what was perceived to be promised him what the reality was and so there was just this perception that soft bricks that would be available that was never available was never going to happen. There's no there's no chance on air 30 you're going to stand by and say yet it whatever you want from it just leave the bad bits you could I was never going to happen so we find ourselves in a situation where you're trying to trying to create a deal where about something that you could never have a deal yeah Ok And tune in next week for more on the to be words Boris breaks it Hello and welcome to scenes make us famous killing Glasgow and we'll let you know the studies school pupils from across Scotland are taking over the microphones Each week people like us but the thing to know more about the history of the communities and. The Tree of Life in the 1st program pupils delve into the history of the Parkhead forge to the center of the fort as a large shopping center this was one step place where steel was made what Joe digital nippled I had a huge machine that would shoot steel they built a very fast aircraft carrier what was produced by Bill moves a pocketful which was Junior historians begins to stay out 130 on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. I'm dream Spears and for sharing this morning on b.b.c. Radio Scotland with my guests Gemma Famer Ian Taylor and Paul McNamee No an apology from Lord Probst of Eva ball in there this week after a marriage that she had claimed 8000 pounds worth of expenses for clothing including claims for 23 pairs of shoes expenses were also paid for manicures her appointments glasses and a 200 quid hat she told the council member she will repay some of the claims she made the Lib Dem m.p. Christine Jardin questioned whether the money had been sensibly spent we should try and avoid putting things in that I'm actually genuine expenses we all buy lunch why would you put lunch on expenses we all have to wear clothes every day it's you know probably different thing why would you put clothes on expenses I think people should think carefully about what they do and that it should be chance violent and if I think it's up to the public of Glasgow I think if they want her to resign they think she should resign then she should. Yes n.p.n. P. Philip which word says the Lord Provost shouldn't be made to resign this is an issue particularly for women men where 2 suits one dinner suit one kilo but they wear the same thing all the time so you can reduce the alignment she didn't overspend her allowance I think she claimed for things she should not have a claim for I do not think she should resign I you have to recognise if you want anyone who stands for council to have the potential to be a lord Provest then you have to at least in the 1st year a lie that you are going to fund the kind of wardrobe that she has to be. Right Eva Ballinger Let me briefly top this up Paul McNamee 1500 couldn't shoes 992 quid and 14 dresses 389 pounds and hottest Tweed 751 points on 10 here appointments 200 quid and a hot seems a bit of a jolly This is a funny way to put it and I like clothes I don't mind spending money on clothes and I'm not going to condemn somebody because they are spending money on clothes I just feel that while it was a load of my less was part of our alliance she hasn't really with any impropriety there it's the issue of perception is the issue of where Glasgow is in Glasgow city councillors and how they are bringing money in and how money is going out on the grand scheme of things it's not a huge amount of money however it's how it looks you know people if there are real problems with homelessness provision in Glasgow those programs with housing of there are problems with. The streets are being managed. Having somebody at the top of the tree spend a lot Molly on nails and hair appointment it doesn't look good even if that is allowed so I think that that for me that is where the problem is that it was a judgment error she should have said I've discovered since taking this rule I'm allowed to do these things however I see was around me and I'm not going to do it and the Glasgow Labor m.s.p. James Kelly called it quote a grotesque spending spree at the time Spears experience Gemma or Marion is there any defensiveness. There's not a defense but there's an understanding I think I would agree that certain items on there are personal things such as here and nails neckers that's probably something that shouldn't go on the taxpayer budget however having having been a woman who has been in front of camera who has to attend certain events by the way 940 name and 14 dresses that scream cheap. There there is there is a pop what was said there is that young men do get away with it a bit you can get away with having a tux and perhaps 2 suits and that would probably do you your to do your lifetime talks problems seem in terms of going to vent No the lower progress I'm pretty sure gets invited there and hawks are a lot of things and I'm pretty sure that most of classical would probably want their Lord Provest to be quite representative and yeah and quite quite well dressed and sure that she's giving off the right image etc. And that does cost money because you cannot We are the same things that for a woman you can't wear the same things again and again and again you might I mean from personal experience I've written a few dresses but I know there's pictures of me from that I can't wear that to that that's why I wore that last hour and I can just hear intertie or you know perhaps going a different pair of shoes yeah especially for a woman just explore this a little bit further why why is it more acute for you to appear in public or on television. In acceptable clothes far more it's nice not acceptable cause your get me wrong it's not acceptable because I try to you change a tire it's a different effect right I can't do that why can't you because I can't it's Can't engine acknowledge you know what exactly because the perception that you know why does I'm going to so much violence I tell you right including the perception of the reality is the 1st comment will come back is not whether or not you're actually doing a good job I've seen addressed before I was just going to say I mean I've been on t.v. . And afterwards on Twitter that all the comments made by those who have something to say about what I'm waiting what my face looks like. I think. I can certainly I agree with you. I think there's a lot of understanding and a lot of whiskey said on Twitter about this is from men who clearly have no understanding of why that may be the case and an esteemed friend and colleague of mine tweeted after all this 70 pounds for a haircut I only paid 12 pounds well does that not show you how ripped off women are. Is this it grounds not a war in one sense is this a small fry scandal with not a lot to I thought it was a think it was it was a great story a great scoop in the record in its own right but in terms of scandal is this I think all my stuff I think scandals a strong word because she done anything wrong and everything she submitted and as with an what's acceptable in the elements and underneath the loans limit I think. I don't know what's going on because it goes with woman and I'm sure that's a deflection perhaps of some sort it could be seen is that. I go back to the point though with her can understand understand why she's seeing that she will repeat some of that but I can also understand on the side she's been asked a judge or been providing loans for that job and she's been asked to to be present in a certain way and she's using elements for that purpose Ok Listen we need to come back after the news we're going to talk about extinction rebellion being black and scottish a t.v. Program parking levies and much else. Last coming up after 11 o'clock in the meantime it's time to go to the 11 pm news. On digital radio f.m. Medium wave b.b.c. Sound b.b.c. Radio Scott. And the news is read by Julian Whelan Thank you good morning the French authorities see their check. The identity of a man arrested at Glasgow Airport who is believed to have vanished 8 years ago following the murder of his wife and 4 children the a.f.p. News agency c savvy to point to Lake County was detained and arrived on a flight from Paris and Elizabeth maty is a friendship Porter it was learned at the airport on Friday afternoon yesterday afternoon and they couldn't stop him from boarding any jet a flight to Glasgow but there was an immediate tip off from the French police to the Scottish critics who were described here in Paris is that the having being absolutely all the blood from start to finish Japan is bracing itself for what could be the most powerful storm to hit the country in 60 years the typhoon with winds of more than 100 miles an hour is expected to make landfall near Tokyo report Winfield Hayes is there it has considerably darkened here the crowds over Tokyo now looking very very angry the amount of rain coming down much heavier than an hour or 2 ago and. The amount of rain which appears standing in for Shereen My guests are Mary Ann Taylor Gemma Fe and Paul McNamee and the 4 of us will be mulling over more of the big talking points this week including climate protests.