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Speaking in the past hour he said the world was witnessing the resurgence of a strong and prosperous America and there had never been a better time to invest in it as president of the United States I will always put America 1st just like the leaders of other countries should put their country 1st also but America 1st does not mean America alone when the United States grows so does the world the chancellor Philip Hammond has defended his comments on bricks it after he was accused of undermining to resume a strategy leading conservative you know skeptics including Jacob Reese Malk reacted angrily to his suggestion that changes to the trade relationship between the u.k. And the e.u. Would be modest Downing Street said it had full confidence in Mr Hammond Scotland's largest teaching in is calling for a 10 percent pay rise for all teachers the it says wages have fallen in value by a 5th of the past decade pay as negotiates nationally by the unions cancels on the Scottish Government the claim from the union is a well in excess of the government's proposed rise for many other public sector workers. The billionaire Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates is due Tennant's new funding for agricultural science during a speech this afternoon in Edinburgh University he's expected to commit nearly 30000000 pounds to research aimed at improving the health and productivity of livestock in developing countries correspondent Glen Campbell if there is a good will appear alongside the international development secretary anymore didn't Tuesday apartment is to put in 90000000 pounds into cutting edge crop research here over the next few years and they both already have some investment you know want to see how that work is going the idea is that all of this research that will help farmers in Africa and across the developing world to rise out of poverty the Daily Mail newspaper has published an apology to the 1st minister who had a story about the flying of the Union Flag on Scottish government buildings the paper 100 ported it was Nicholas Sturgeon's decision not to fly the flag but she said that simply wasn't true here's our political correspondent Andrew care the row broke out on Wednesday with 3 conservative leading newspapers saying the 1st minister had hold down the Union flag from government buildings are dated Scottish Government guidance for 28 said the union flag should only be flown on the Remembrance Day However Nicholas sturgeon stepped in and in a series of tweets described the story as simply untrue and ridiculous it was her predecessor Alex Salmond who actually change the procedure in 2010 after a conversation with the queen today the Scottish Daily Mirror published a correction to clarify when the decision was taken Mr Arjun said it was important to challenge false Hudes over to the sport stance and David Cody thanks very much and you know good afternoon Aberdeen have same the how Milton Captain Michael Devlin the 24 year old defender who's moving to Pittodrie and Athena half year deal is currently recovering from Clichy at a ligament injury Meanwhile the Dons have turned down a 3rd. For defender Scott McCain which b.b.c. Scotland understands is less than the 700000 pounds reported elsewhere this morning . Have rejected a bid from Celtic for their 22 year old center half Jack Hendry meetings could take place between some Scotland internationals and the players' union about concerns over the Scottish f.a. As arrangement of 2 end of season Friendly's in South and Central America despite the head coach position remaining vacant Yes a few organized fairly summer trips to face Peru and makes a go with some current Scotland internationals due to play in new season European qualifiers just weeks later and the defending champion Roger Federer is into your record 7th Australian Open tennis final plea modern challenge in Sunday's men's singles that's the sport and it's time for travel. In a 950 the long side Peterhead road they're still dealing with that accident at Flushing apart an h.g.v. Came off the road earlier so that means partially blocked traffic in both directions at a bit of travel treating to say slow in a 90 from Quality Street this is leaving the time near here Mr Mason one called a road slow in both directions through those woods works a car a hill road that a temporary traffic lights here and they sum to 7 C'mon explore north by through the road works at Bellfield interchange that's b.b.c. Radio Scotland travel. The weather plenty of dry weather with good sunny afternoon a little more cloud over the Northern Alliance with a shower or 2 highs ranging between 5 and 7 Celsius b.b.c. Radio Scotland news. Hello and welcome to the last in the current series of when to start bringing you warm conversation with my guests. Each bring to the table their sparkling recommendation this week on the theme at 0 and it's wide open as they can suggest an older new t.v. Show a favorite book or movie from the past or present an object an album their best place choice is up to them. You're listening to win 2 games we start from b.b.c. Radio Scotland. And the heroic lineup of guests is the velvet voice to Mrs Soprano current cargo stupendous poet Stuart Patterson and the craze and do you sing Papercuts artist Patterson welcome. As always you say hello. As always my 1st question to you is what you been up to this week Stuart celebrating Robert Burns last night Celtic Connections and I certainly was I was on the bell for the bombs like on sort of the c.c.u. Where you go on so who's the tremendous musical actually Tala screech will Newton Robin Roberts and Ross Wilson so it was a real privilege to be part of it was tremendous like and you brought along a little present for myself to such as about the size of an old fashioned much books isn't it burns night blessing that's your it's so be book. But it's a lovely. What about you but what you've been doing well I have been working on a top secret new project until now top secret I can't really reveal what's in it but it's a big I'm writing and illustrating so I've been doing all the illustrations and having ideas basically where your paper cut has been just tremendous Space Center so you expect in this one to fly I will go through I want to go back to New York so yeah I think. I last saw you the Queen's hole a couple of weeks ago you were absolutely splendid as always singing with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra divorced back songs in Czechoslovakia and. That you do that well I'm very lucky that my father in law is Czech saw we did it but he lives in county so we had to do it by the wonders of the Internet and he would send me an audio file and then and talk through the text and then I would write an IP and then put it to the put it to the music so it was yeah it was interesting that you understood what you were saying yeah you got to understand in order to emote Yeah well it was stunning to see here you were very convincing to resume believe we can very sing and check I know a few words but not in. Thing that you could really have a conversation if you need to know what the word for belly button is then come and ask me because I can tell you what it Peach Eric said That's good actually I think that might actually be an all of a Calgary from now would be checking my new word for Bailey and still I think it I think they are just going to say. Well yeah yeah. Let's hear that came straight from a preacher you know. Maybe about about wrong. And it's true and current I can see that it's going to be downhill from there you have all the notes to bring along suggestion inspired by the week's theme of headlines film boo t.v. Show musical object the choice is yours and we're starting today with a recommendation from Metz a soprano current cargo who hails from Arbroath and has become an international opera star So before we hear your recommendation Carne we have to heat a quick burst of you know action. Carrying cargo with Simon Leppard performing last summer knocked from the album fluke leader and that was written by a woman all my mother wife of good stuff so that was a nice choice of a button so it had to feed that. It's horrid I had to come you've got a sense of what it's about I could see things transforming that when he. Was a grammar so it was I think my own. One joke and I was hoping that you were going to suggest an operatic heroine for this program and indeed you love the hair and you've picked out today is not the soprano Maria Callas she was born in New York in 1023 the daughter of Greek parents when they divorced her mother took her to Athens when she was 14 it was there with her mother's determent encouragement that she received her musical education at the National Conservatory and the Athens conservatory which she didn't initially failed to get into at the age of $21.00 after a successful operatic career in Greece she moved back to the u.s.c. And became of course a massive star on both sides of the Atlantic when did you 1st come across her current It's a really interesting story actually when I 1st started to have singing lessons I went to a lady who lived dire need of the heart but in Arbroath who charged me 50 pence and I write. Songs actually and she had a record player and long played records and there was this picture of this woman and I didn't know anything about classical music I never had any never had any opera but this picture of this woman just was something that just dreamy and and she had the most exotic makeup. Chopsticks now here and you know she did the eyeliner who're anyway and I said even though she did yeah and it was years later once I was doing my level music I realized it was media Colace and I had her saying and then saw the picture and then suddenly realized that it was the same Paris and not even hearing her voice something there was something mysterious about the way that she looked that just I was just attracted to the whole thing and do you see her as a heroine absolutely because of everything in her life that she had to deal with and still get on stage and give the fuel performance that she always did. That that's from a singer's point of view it's miraculous You know. Emotions when emotions run high so many things can go wrong technically wrong with her voice but she still managed to get up there and give 100 percent we decided that having to pick just one careless recording to get everybody was going to be a bit too difficult on Earth continues and we also wanted to find out about her life she saw herself as callous the performer and Melania the woman so we thought she ought to abortion 1907 Dulcie mentor It's made by filmmaker and theater director Tony Palmer whose work includes many music and cultural documentaries including Leonard Cohen's bird in a wire and how much did you already know there were but Maria Callas it's like I knew an awful lot I had been to see the Terrence McNally plea masterclass I'd seen that in Toronto quite some years ago and it really you know it's autobiographical graphical really and. So I knew a lot about it Tara what was interesting for me was under standing the even that time brand was an important thing and she was one of the 1st singers that really established a brand or catalysts. And the fat you know that we all knew that obviously she had hung upside by we and things like that my thought it was so fascinating that she never did Cartman on stage because she would be the perfect Cartman and yet her weight issues for herself stop her from doing that and stays in and I find that really interesting as a singer who you know we do think about those things well you're mentioning Carmen there so let's hear Maria Callas who never performed it publicly she thought her legs were too big for here she is singing these these Carmen with the orchestra of the Opera nostalgia party recorded in 1964. If. She. Was. The man. Was. Mary account acing had been made of from the Z's Carmen chosen by Karen here but. Are you callous fans and hugely I one thing I thought actually from the documentary was that they didn't really go into high awful Her mother was and I mean she did me Maria Callas school and the with not so used to go and get food Jude in the war and she never forgave her for. She said you know she felt it was prostitution and which it actually was and she also if she hated singing her mom was a stupid as pushy mom he want to you know what my child on the stage because I've not made it and you know she grew so love it that she never stopped resenting her mom for for doing that and you know it like Karen says the fact that she survived the fact that she kept going on stage I mean it's music manager so to gnaw huffing and puffing with things going on in your head and then being able to perform such a massive challenge for anybody it's been for the pushy mom though we might not have the joy of telling you you know there might have just been a happier person in the world just you know that's another topic all together there's a bit to be happy or you know. Do you like or don't wake up. That's a loaded question I mean maybe a callus is always some There's always been there because she was belonged to the generation before me you know said so she's of an age from our parents and stuff like my mom and dad would have been very much aware that I was aware that she was there she was when you say use the word heroin to me more akin to I call it an iconic figure but listening to music do not respond to that hugely emotional response to any music that doesn't matter what for about a sort of what genre sorts of his passion has done well in the other would understand exactly where it's coming from or the why which which is song. You know what definitely gets his way yes or the other disappoint kind she's got great musicality a great voice she talked about listening to the music with the soul and the years and then she said the performance would come naturally she could act she brought drama to our presidents Yeah exactly and I think she set the bar very high up too late for singers after her because. Nor longer was about standing there and looking pretty in a dress and trying to deliver a number you know at interview are to win win Violetta dice you can hear it in her voice that she is dying and I think that's the type of performer the I want to be in that you know you do and I want to he had an ugly noise you know it's often talked about it was an ugly voice or yes but she used it for the right reasons she used it to express exactly what was happening to the characters at the time. So did that sometimes cause the more pull that some people said that she had in her salute and I think. Again going back to the wheat issue because of this we lost that she had you can hear even in that she talks whole 25 year which for us you know. She lost memory is of course there's all of the muscles that are so used to being able to carry that we are and saying so. You know you can hit in that record in terms they say for the common that some of the bloom of the voice some of the wheats of the voice is going out because she's not quite sure the body you know is a different instrument and the body is not sure how to despoil and you can actually hear that I mean I can hear you can in some parts of it but you know if she is so intelligent that she uses that changing color to make a more care to show your characterisation you know and that's that's a true artist someone that can do that amazingly there has not been a definitive film version of Maria Callas it's like both Meryl Streep Noomi Rapace have been signed up to play her in recent years projects haven't yet made it to screen candidates meeting for you. She was a soprano but as I find out from the documentary she was also diagnosed if you like as a Met so Soprano Yeah who of course has a lower center. Like yourself Yeah absolutely and you can hear it in the Carmen the the bottom No it's you know Carmen is all about being this this very sexual being and usually the Lord parts of the voice of the best way to express that and that's where she really shines I mean she obviously had the top notes too but. Yeah I would have liked to have had to do more mental supplanted after for sure. Well I can't believe that we've run out of time already doing that we could talk about her for a very long time she gained this reputation as a prima donna in a pejorative sense as well as their operatic context but I think it was all pretty worth it do you know yet also I think that was for women just get cold but. Yeah prima donna I don't think a Holmes Tamil artist yeah I don't hear that too much about the tenors no. I mean there's actually there's a real level cut for me watching the film as well something you know too much about it and I was picking up a lot of stuff on how she was viewed by a lot of people so that was really I mean as interviews but mainly men you know. Concord was very much for inviting us to spend time celebrating the work of Maria Callas that bio pic is definitely overdue you were definitely going to be into the Catholic. Documentary washes called Maria Callas directed by Toni Palmer and is available on d.v.d. The 100 all coming to b.b.c. One Scotland is an African feed on that in front of all of us 100 experts musicians with 100 different opinions. Like you're already a. Song that I just didn't connect for me it was a picture this is a Congress saying something lots of places we're the ones that matter you. Join comedian look back it's as compete to impress Jameel and I'm stuck on that stuff is crap what I signed up to get them singing along I'll only say given what starts tomorrow night at 716 on b.b.c. One Scotland You're listening to winter weekend with you stark our theme as head Owens opera singer Karyn cargoes choice of Maria Callas to any Palmer's documentary to the table next papercut artist who Patterson will give her recommendation the 1st music from a performer who I know is a heroine a furious boot from Debbie Harry with Blondie this is one way or another. One way or another by Blondie blue Patterson you'd agree admirer of Debbie high in this is song that you find particularly powerful explain why well kind of just what we're saying about Maria Callas you know women going through. Great trials and the song in particular was written about her stalker that was one way or another I'm going to get with her stalker used to write to her and she wrote a song about a certain high triumph and she gets a number one and just something very powerful and it just amazes that Frank Sinatra cool if you know nothing the best revenge is only just success and so she had she was also abducted by a guy who she thought was Ted Bundy at the time but turned out not to be but she was just about in this car she had to open the door of the car so moving through herself. And she's just you know engineers and I think that's the case for. All the women we've chosen. There and you're despite their trials you know you saw her perform live recently and there's a 70 presumes you didn't disappoint she has still got the chops Let's move to your poor to choice for when to be canned and to introduce that he's a quarter that I wish I had written my mission in life is not merely to survive but to thrive and to do so with some passion some compassion some humor and some style the words of poet playwright and civil rights activist Maya Angelou who 1st came to literate attention with her memoir I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. When she died at the age of 86 she was described by her family as a warrior for the quality tolerance and peace and by President Obama as one of the brightest lights of our times I wondered who. She was the current incumbent choice and one point from this truly phenomenal woman Still I Rise from her 3rd volume of point and still I write it's a great choice what is it that you particularly like will also read a couple of verses I'm a bit like the quote you just gave I mean your head and he was should be people that you hope to be like him and she made clear her imperfections and so in that we you felt that you're not intimidated by your Auden imperfections that doesn't put you off striving for things and still I rise you know she she numbers the things that are you know would be black market marks against her you know judging by other people's views but she turns them into you know triumphant. Passages So things like you know does my sexiness upset you does it come as a surprise but I dance like I've got diamonds at the meeting of my thighs I mean she she is unrepentant and and she you know succeeds Let's hear a couple of stanzas from the end to the hearts of history shame Iraq art from a past that's rooted in pain Iraq and the black ocean leaping and wide Welling and swelling I beare in the tide leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise into a daybreak that's wondrously clear I ride bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave I am the dream and the hope of the slave. Iraq Iraq Iraq it seems to me that it's a poor look you're welling up you know. It seems to me that is point shit but to NASA to as much as anything else that Lee. Read and this war was incredible because I just because the poet and her voice the house she chooses to be so autobiographical and her in her works. And to put it all out there on the page and there's nothing hidden I just think it's extraordinary and. You know her defiance in the Strand but yeah just you know she's just said a thing about one of her later she admitted to being a prostitute and she said I don't want people you know young people to think that the older people don't make any mistakes than it is they should feel shame about it so I have to walk the walk and tell people that you know I've done this thing and life isn't perfect and you just have to get on with it so it's her immense Prevelly in confronting the uncomfortable truths about life very honest is just yes Stewart you have her book it is comfort. You don't call Mensa did I know it's look I think a lot early every page and I knew that I would be able to you know all of them are even most of them what makes her a fantastic point for you what makes a fantastic point is what makes me really all these people and because just you can't help it because she says what you feel she says what she feels I mean she's a powerful there's just so much I know I mean she's a woman. I've never read stuff with us before the women she's blocked she's of civil rights she's almost she's caught in the oral tradition which he spoke about you know caught in the 2 streams of poetry song because it's poetry and song it's uncounted celebrates l.a. It's history is Bob think it's epic and any of these poems I mean any of them because there's one just after I called it the new be done why did that actually made me go and look at people a Alvin Ailey Barbara Jordan in place I didn't know who these people where she's educated me she's been a part you know she's carrying things through on to the next generation of senior performers for having you know I've seen in the film that she made when she can't go on the 99. Dollars love to see the perform of course of it I mean she can disco on the 96 but she was a big fan of Obama. Arne's shoot she did a film. Which went bombs cordial with Iran she was myself on a bombs on these these views on equal rights. Equality for the whole human race again not to what can quasi thoughts which shines through just about every boy and which bombs also you know example to them what she was like fond of and has his love of the particular to demonstrate the universe so that if she absolutely has that as well as her it's her humanity I think there's just so wonderful in absolutely everything that she did even her dedication to this volume and still I realize. This book is dedicated to a few of the good guys you to laugh with you to cry to I can just about make a tool for that is dedicated to Jessica Mitford Jerry Purcell and she Allen I just love this woman oh you know she's never written a Darfur. And she just yet you see she had this humanity and she was kind you know she just wanted to be kind to people even though she disagreed with she felt that there was a common humanity between her and them very interesting you know you talked about. Maria Callas his mother was absolutely dreadful Well one of the things that my Angelou said about parents was that you know when you're growing up when you forget them yes. And of course her mom was I think her mom and dad were you know nice people but they just split up and and she had this peripatetic lifestyle where she lived with her gran and then when she moved back with her mom when she was easy she was raped by her mom's boyfriend and boyfriend her her uncles and killed him and she went mute for years because I know why the yeah because she thing she. Her voice would kill somebody and it took this teacher to draw vs She she's just experienced so much and I feel that she could have been turned into a better alcoholic you know but she just didn't she thought you know I'm going to seize the day and there's a coup in one of her books. Her gran actually said you know if you're going along a path and it doesn't suit you step off the path and cut yourself a new one and I've always had well since I started reading when I was 20 I've always had my head I think maybe a callous really could have done with her she should know all of that really she yeah there have been some lessons there are things that I think is so fascinating is that she talks about the human condition in every form so there are some whole Livius pieces and they're into that really you know do make you laugh the one about the health food shop health food you know health foods that you know it's hard to. Get all. The way all the screen. Like that you know yeah yeah yeah I think she would definitely told Callis what to do with and asked if she liked it Ok before. Because Alice was and actually I mean I think that I think about my my Angela is that you don't you don't see her in any way as a tragic figure you know there's no self-pity there no whatsoever and yet so often women like Alice are seen to be these tragic figures it's almost like we focus on that rather than the Richie for months it's the for the Gelati isn't it of the of what Karl is sort of exhibited of herself you know we have also I think this is not a narrative that just women are purely things and you know just know my you know but in the in the media they can be manipulated into callouses this I wonder if Carlos herself ever thought of herself like that she said it was very difficult to be Maria Callas she perhaps did in some way to see that as being that split between you know being being the woman who was looking for love and being the performer who wanted to be loved in a different way and to get off and in many ways but every purchase another guy. Choice another great woman Maya Angelo still Iraq is available in the collection and Still I Rise published by Random House and did you know that she almost to precisely double it in music she was a calypso singer and dancer Hall you're ahead of us in 1057 she released a novel Miss Calypso and a small night for all my help of which was reissued in 1905 this is indeed Calypso blues and 5 great oh. Wow Ah. No. Interest in a god one coming. When I pick up a map up email can't believe you. Probably have a handle on rom. Was . A whole um. No. Oh. Hey. Oh. Sometimes as the. Phone. In these Yankee girls didn't even care plan our last half of the I remember basic main character where come down paint me Calypso girl come up to her to see if you are my guy. I'm a live it's happen live. I'm Susie Tarkin Bobby in. Those blue. Ball. Hard to. Know. Who was. Off all. Calypso blues from the late great truly phenomenal woman Maya Angelou and the Eunice stalker is back and she's got that Friday feeling I'm looking at my comfort zone just for you today I Should Coco It's the return of it for the weekend so expect some of this please tell me I'm going to this bit of this is it to get me to know when I'm in the water maybe not trying to cover the sharks and definitely more of this because it seems like some of our Or how about we just have to. Show me every Friday for a show packed with Grinch ideas to turn a dull weekend into an inspiring to get attention for the we can return this next Friday from 2 I can't wait let's get me on b.b.c. Radio Scotland Fiona stocker back with you next week at this time here and went to we can do this week's theme of heroin with this week's the affair ends in mind I've been to the studio to learn more about a 19th century struggle in Edinburgh which even cost a riot it was a fight to secure the right for women to have a university education a story of 7 women who fought long and hard to achieve their ambition to study and practice medicine and went to meet a university that academic who believes they deserve far greater recognition. I'm surrounded by university buildings here at the clue place in Edinburgh students male and female are rushing by me on their way to and from lectures to Torrijos but 150 years ago things were very different with me is Joe Spiller head of the learning services and author of the work of pity or entry on the Edinburgh 7 joy your office is 4 doors away from where this group of women known as the adversary were based Who were they and how much of a battle did they harbor in their hands at that time so were the other 7 were the 1st female students in the unit. City in the u.k. And they came to Edinburgh to study medicine in 1913 I and actually it's important to remember I think that the university was very supportive at the time of the women students so the medical faculty voted to allow them in and the sun artist voted to allow them to study which was quite ready radical it was a very radical at that time didn't have the vote that's right exactly and a lot of people felt that women didn't have the intellectual and physical stamina required for starting at this level and for the professions that they were hoping to go into and this is where they lived at number 15 right so they say they set up home here and at least 3 of them lived here so explain Edith and Isabel thaw and Elizabeth Isabelle thongs for children and they created the hub of activity for the women so they would set up evening tutorials they set up a chemistry lab there so that they could practice the chemistry that they needed and yeah. And that's a much history then it became a real hope for the women but you know. The other side of that is that as they carried on with the studies and they were successful attitudes towards them started to change so Edith she came top of the class for chemistry in the March exams of 870 for those who sit in the exam for the 1st time and so she should have been eligible for Hope scholarship as a result of that but the professor from Brown at the time was concerned about provoking the male students so he ended up awarding Hope scholarship to men who came down the ranks so although they'd had support from the press from the times of p.s. Gottesman much of the medical faculty opinion was divided some going as far as to see the prospect of women doctors as potentially do. Yeah so that was interesting. There was this debate in $870.00 about whether or not they might be harboring magdaléna abortionists and. She was interesting the debate that played out in the newspapers about well why are we not equally worried about male students that might be harboring the same kinds of motives you know it was like it was than argument that didn't really holds much kind of water when you picked apart but it became very aggressive didn't know it did yeah and so actually at 15 because the place they started to become subjected to quite a lot of abuse I've seen letters were put through the letterbox people rattling the letter box the name plates being removed crowds gathering outside to the point where the women stopped going out on their own during the day and they stopped going out to tool during the night so they were either early intimidated Yes they were and there was a very interesting instant where the turning point actually was the surgeon's full riot in the November 870. So just to remind you to the names of those women there's a good question I suppose toward Emilie borehole Helen evidence Matilda chaplain and Cynthia Jackson Lee Yeah so just because you would like. To hear I think the surgeons hall just opposite the Edinburgh Festival Theatre is this where the riot would have taken place in 870. 5 actually just outside when the women arrived the crowd were gathered outside and they found that the main doors but not to the building so we couldn't get in and so they were stuck outside facing charges of you so you know rubbish and mud being thrown at them and eventually one of the male students came out and opened the doors to them that and then and so this was all. All because they were going to sit their exams in anatomy Yes it was her. Yeah I mean I don't know quite what the background what provoked how the crowd gathered but. There were students there but they weren't just students it was also members of the public and the local Nadia wells as they were posted in the newspaper it was a very aggressive opposition and yes it was but actually that day so it was the 18th of November $870.00 and that was a game changer in many ways because not only whether male students really shocked at the way that we retreated and after that they started to organize themselves into groups of bodyguards to help the school women around campus but also it made national headlines and it led to the creation of a committee to secure medical education for the women of Edinburgh and Charles Darwin was a signatory to that committee and. National coverage and a lot of national support won the lot of new supporters severe just play it became the 1st practicing female doctor in Scotland but it looked like she'd lost the battle that brought that point yes Paul though she never felt that it was a loss she always felt that the seeds that was sown in tears and great joy elsewhere and I think that's very true that in the past to a momentous change but this is not always going to be smooth but it has to begin somewhere because the 7 women did not actually graduate she graduate they did not not in from the u.k. University they graduated from the European one because by then European universities are starting to open up to women so powerless to. Rule the free medical degrees to women but like you so much for Terri but these women they truly were heroic I just feel completely and all of us of what they fought for what they dreamt for and eventually for the Achieve I know me to show you off to your office back in the clear places. We started so I say hello to them for me you know you. Are from the University of Edinburgh telling me about the Edinburgh a 7 Sophia jet split it at Peschiera Isabel Thorne Emily Belleville Helen Evans Matilda Chaplin and Mary Anderson NY To be fair I'm the only one here who is from Edinburgh had any of you actually haired that story of the Edinburgh s.f. a New one I've lived here for many years. And why don't we know about why it's not taught in school you know if it shameful really and I know we need to pull him. With it I been coming across a lot. Of women who have been had and I'm from history of being one of. My people is going to talk to the was was a been quite funny Parker who suffered their little essentially a nice of the end of catch not who tried to blow up bombs he's got another help there and tell your men at the b.b.c. Our show yesterday to read his story and that we have this yourself what amazing woman she was so we could have done entire program on home you know but I've never help of these and so those aren't all the time these women are sort of history and did reveal to us the stories are just incredible I think that is a plot somewhere within the university to Syfy objects bleak but Joe Spiller is very keen that this should be a great find of start she's personally but she would she said you know there are studies of men all over Edinburgh absolutely lost their house and some we connected up with the statue to me Barbara but there are no statues of women and pursue this would be a deceptive segment of them all in the one plinth you know we have a statue of a dog before we have a start. And also my interest to see a. Little Boy that's going to wash a bit of a $700.00 square to the surface of the suffragettes and under square kids will come across but you could muster most yanno. You know starch is an argument against them but at least they are a visible recognizable source and you know they're often very phallic looking but you know. You do need to make a moment later you know what. Sadness was that after those riots and $870.00 I would say search is full there was a court case and it was ruled that the university had acted unlawfully by a loving those women to matriculate students and it was $877.00 before women were formally admitted and the mid ninety's before any female students graduated but Cynthia and tear Piers did change history I mean the thing is we're told here that would be happening but then you know that's still happening in countries other than Britain you know you know 150 years on and women still can't go to university or or live free lives elsewhere in the world so it's not over we're just living in a kind of liberal bubble where the that's appalling Well there's a lot of appalling stuff going on I suppose it appears in the moment but think you know about Paris not heroines Karen I do know that you were singing teacher Yeah I was a great inspiration to you show her name loudly or do your show he if you're listening. I mean my 1st singing teacher was the one and I brought who charge me 50 pence an hour and taught me everything that I you know but but he who was. A big signature in Scottish Opera in this sort of Alexander Gibson days she has basically helped me be where I am. To my voice when it wasn't in its best Nick if you like and built back up and. Taught me what I need to know to survive this absolutely bonkers life so I had and was no longer on song knowing you you know and I think of my. And should a couple of teachers the had at school I went to Cameron and Elizabeth Warren who taught me English I'm for ever grateful Stuart who would your head Owens be personally now I know there are sections that you'd said your mom when you spoke to her over the 4 and you know I've read no one any good no other but they would say you know I mean different people have got the brains of a mob as definitely a problem with a strong woman with strong has been in the know she's been through an awful lot in life which can't even begin to tell you why it is' is very very appropriate and also how Mom was also called my mom from the occult was tremendous from this will give but the law was a walk it's. A war you die eat you know it was really really really hard life there's also a Jane hating. Who was going to pick from today by choice today a poor missionary for yes the Who died and for free should we sort of discussed that on Sunday morning was there so already so if you like God and all that she was a tremendous example a son who just go admit that they see much to such a head or went to the gallows that she looked after side of him she saved you know for so. I'm going to see my Auntie June. Because she went to see with my uncle David in the fifty's when women didn't do that she you know she cleaned the engines for want of something else to do and she's just been running the world she's going to be a publican and every time. Struggling to just keep going she's the one that just says Ok you know just just go on with it you know. It's just I don't know if it's a peculiarly Scottish women thing but still I said this is dumb as an adolescent Yeah and really is that and she has in spades and you know if I'm ever so. Mark she's the one I go to and for that reason and teach you when you are my hero. Is it good for us to have heroes is it good for us to look up to something I think . Gives you a power where you feel that there is none and every day is a school day every day is just your day but I suppose that's why it's very important then that we do sing live about the herons because otherwise our mentors and the bar that's set by men which is you know that means that we've lost before we started Thank goodness we've got a feminist put amongst you like you Stuart so I could be all this time Sue and all. Present. For them to. Be very soft skinned so yeah but you have find that you had my head too and as much as he did was women as much as men be but all the rest goes to school and that of what it costs you know you're not conditioned to by a woman obviously and you mainly tend to grow up because they're the ones they are the guys that are you know what can be I think you mentioned weak yes but as I think as your older you know a personal histories. As I say you know very much that at school or in the general not of society that all they would be calling on converts you know. More and more and more of them my heroes were football players and boxers they're not quite famous and they would give us what to be that's the want to be though you know well after the news my archive choice a pioneer of fashion and the singer that Stuart has picked up for his recommendation with this heroines and to guess the news to more inspiring women and Dave Stewart you don't mix with Aretha Franklin. Luck. Radio stopped. 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