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And who's the chief executive of n.h.s. Providers says there's a danger voters could be let down by a superficial devaluate with unrealistic promises as a health care it's a huge pain to illustrate the scale of the challenge n.h.s. Providers says there are no 4400000 people in England waiting for routine operations and there are 107000 staff vacancies that's 9 percent of the workforce how to tackle these issues is what leaders of Health Trust say they want to hear from political parties with a proper debate on what's needed in a taxpayer funded service to provide the right quality of care 10 British people have been hurt in a coach crash in France more than 30 in total were injured 4 seriously after the vehicle overturned on the country's busiest motorways and Amie on the flicks bus service was travelling from Paris to London Jeremy Corbyn says it's a bit weird that Nigel Farage won't stand as a candidate in the general election the break the party leader has told the b.b.c. That he can do more by supporting his candidates around the country Tom Harwood is from the center right political website grader forks there was a time when the direct party were really leading in the polls and of course they won the European elections but now they're sort of stuttering around single figures maybe 10 percent maybe 11 in their best performances and they look like they're not going to win a single seat which is clearly why Nigel for ours is not standing he knows that he wouldn't win McDonald's has sat is chief executive for having a consensual relationship with an employee the British businessman Steve Easterbrook has been the company's global Bostons 2015 he admits breaking the firm's rules report by M.P.'s is calling for control of drugs laws in Scotland to be handed over to the Scottish Parliament if the British government doesn't act on its recommendations the Scottish Affairs Committee says possessing small amounts of drugs for personal use should be disc decriminalised its chair is the s.n.p. 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Sam and we are talking to Professor and to Russell and Lou for university for a Monday morning politics phone in feel free to join us 108-085-9096 extension 93 obviously we're told by the general election which was announced a few days ago December the 12th we go to the polls and all sorts of permutations to discuss around that the party is a county trying to gauge public opinion in a source of feeble atmosphere since all the breaks it should any kids whether we leave the European Union and when we will leave the European Union amongst other things might be part of the conversation as you decide who you're going to vote for . And also the prospects of a hung parliament as well I'm not sure whether you relish that whether it's a good thing or not for the democracy that we tell the world's. About how proud we are of and the rest of the world looks upon and says yes mother vote for limits is at or is a hung parliament a good thing for the Marva a vote for arguments and how would we avoid one as well which where we vote an interesting point on that by the way Professor Russell just said an email in this is from Keith in Dumfries and Galloway I know I know we've pulled the conversation on a cliffhanger which we will return to in a moment forgotten that but Keith in Dumfries and Galloway says the breaks is important in the paramount issue for me is animal welfare and I suspect image or. Conservative government would attempt to repeal the hunter necked I live in a Conservative seat in Scotland mine to nation is center left and I would usually vote other labor or live Dems but in my seat the s.n.p. Are the only realistic challenges to the Tories so I should be voting as m.p. Even though I don't support Scottish independence and. Voting for them in the hope the conservatives will lose a seat I wish we had proportional representation says Keith Dumfries and Galloway and the reason why that email for me is so profound is because part of the conversation certainly between the Conservatives and the brakes a party have been about whether you know if the party ended the sway whether people would then have to be forced to vote tactically to stop Jeremy Corbyn from becoming prime minister will tactical voting to that extent play a major part in this election during. Yeah I wanted to go voting is because bands who have a have a have an impact but but it but it will have an impact in ways that are unpredictable and. You know I mean one of the I mean one of the things that I was most impressed by the win was that you know the issue that's driving his vote voting. Intention is the you know is the hunting ban and because you know that's a. A a British a British wide. A British right piece of British white piece of legislation that he thinks will be repealed if they can so he's got a majority and so therefore he's going to vote for he's going to vote for a party that you might think you might think is most closely associated with a single policy of independence that he doesn't agree with. But he disagrees with the Disagree disagrees with the. With a repeal of the hunting ban most of all and therefore that's that's what's leading him to that it's have a single binary outcome in terms of his vote now I do think that and I think this illustrates if of the point that we are making you know about America now that that when people make the decision about you know with putting the single box in the single this is the single cross in a single box you know there may be a number of different calculations that they're mazing bricks it's bricks has got paid for breaks is the one main subject has got people considering tactical voting is that unlike most of the. Case but yes I mean I don't accept that there will be other cases where the main thing that has got people I don't know I've come across another election where people are literally talking about tactical voting not necessarily to make sure one party wins or another party wins but so are the ensure the kind of brain. Oh none break they watch the tactical voting is about an issue rather than about the parties but there is this so-called tactical unwind as well where where you can you can follow that tactical voting thing to the to the absolute absolute logical conclusion if for instance if you want to look at the 10 the Liberal Democrats as a as a as a specific party and you could say the Liberal Democrats want to cut through to the 48 percent they want to say that they are the ambiguous remain party and they want the but in certain parts of the country they are poised to perhaps to be the official remain Party challenger in other parts of the country they don't look like the they don't they they don't by their own admission look like they are a viable electoral alternative So Joe Swinson is the leader of the Liberal Democrats is has said has admitted that her party is looking actively forward to remain alliances with the Greens with the s.m.p. In order to in order to give the kind of a free reign for the most viable remain candidate in certain constituencies that seems logical it seems to have had some success in the Brecon enough know by election for instance. The you could see the could see that they're having a single viable. Remain party did have a you know I did did did did have a did bring electoral success and enabled that you know 48 percent of the vote loses you a referendum it gives you a landslide in 1st Past the Post of course right in 1st general elections for instance so if they could harness that then then that would be a tremendous breakthrough however the logic would suggest that that pacts with the s.n.p. Pact to the Greens pact pacts with plied Camry. You know are not going to going to deliver much as much up to a pile for the Liberal Democrats as say you know a conditional pact with Labor would do the weather where they could they could they could look at the be a kind of anti conservative alliance in terms of the remain in terms of the remaining vote if you like now the reason they can't do that is because they know that up and down the country there are many seats where the Liberal Democrats are trying to attract votes from conservatives who would be pulled off with any notion of the of the Liberal Democrats being closer to Jeremy core with the Labor Party than they are to Boris Johnson's Conservative Party so real politics gets in the way the 3 dimensional politics gets in the way so the so the Lib Dems are in this bind where they you know they want to have they want to be part of a kind of a. First Past the Post to have these kind of remain alliances but the but they know the pushing that pushing that so it's logical limits then starts to then starts to rebound on them and might be catch and might be counterproductive in lots and lots of seats and cause to show and go back to a cliffhanger do we vote personality for the Can we avoid voting for sin ality where we go to the polls because the personalities just tend to be. The policy leaders and their careers bear will influence one to the vote above over and above $21.00 I mean. A famous politician in the. In the 1970 s. Norman I'm used to quoting in in public so he said the election should be about a lot more than a man with a bow and a man with a pipe and he's talking about Heath and Wilson and he was talking talking about the the way that the public image became the public image had become a had become much more important in policies. But Wilson did use the pie. As an iconic image yaps absolutely classical music and the boat. Yeah absolutely Anna you know he was. I mean I mean that politician was moaning about what in many ways you might call a presidential is ation of of politics and Boris Johnson is they have more chance and then they with Cameron tried it Tony Blair did it Mrs Thatcher did it the idea that the g. B I was just wondering if the labor leaders Well yes I mean how German Gerry Coburn's appeal is to play the kind of the the anti charisma part the he's a he's a very serious politician who doesn't doesn't conform to the to those notions of what a success you know you can imagine him going in the New Labor colony beautiful kind of a kind of training you know you certainly didn't you certainly wouldn't have removed his beard at the time when they were saying that facial hair was facial hair was bad for you and bad for your electoral prospects and all of the other stuff you know but he saw his stick is that he was sincere but you know you could any other question mind back to that you know to the Glastonbury festival to see that you know about that that a major comes through to some people right there now that now of course the charisma that politicians have you know tends to tense the kind of the big pipe bipolar that there are certain people. Receive the message and like it there are certain people who hate if you sit and read. Every cool yeah yeah absolutely. That's how my do is described here but I want to forget as Joe's for instance said . You know see why guys this election were about what how does a woman come through those kind of personality images Margaret Thatcher fair enough did it very successfully I'm not sure if to reserve may manage to do it successfully to cut through the dominant personality tropes of the male leaders and establish themselves what does a woman leader like Joe's incent have to do. Well I mean in the kind of depends about how the architecture of the campaign runs and Joe since another moment is is very upset that the 1st leaders' debate has been agreed by by a t.v. To be. A 2 hander between. Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbin and she is upset that she's you know that she won't be present I mean if you cast your mind back to 252015 and David Cameron wasn't in that David Cameron wasn't on the decided not to be in the 2015 leadership debates but there was one there was one that had to move the opposition parties and the stars of those were you know when the cliff sturgeon Bennett who's leader of the Green Party Nicholas 13 was the leader of the s.n.p. And and. The leader of plod can really. Like a company car believe that my brain is frozen at this point but past 3 in the morning anyway 3 female leaders yes did set the tone for that leadership for that leadership by and and you could have you could you could imagine that the that. A. You could imagine a female politician somebody looks a bit different could cut through on a in a snarl unlimited However if however the you know the architecture is all about a kind of male dominated kind of you know set of. You know some so sometimes it's really hard for outsiders to break the mold and sometimes you know that architecture is particularly he's particularly as you say Richard I wonder to what extent political system is biased against women if not miss urge Miss Arjun is to hold out thought if we can get into a conversation before the end of this phone you will will will return to it. And I was thinking of and get America in particular but we had one text as well I should've mentioned almost straight after I read Kate's email Peter good touches said totally agree with Keith from Kent to cool its all conservative conservative sadly with only a couple of exceptions will vote but it won't make a difference in Quetta in terms of tactical voting several people again of referred to Keith's email to points out that in Scotland there's a separate hunting ban for Scotland's devolved issue there and thank you but I don't think that mitigates in any way against what Keith was saying because I think he meant that he would have it out of college right or you could be concerned about the handing money here exactly exactly Duncan is self employed and thank you for that anyway and steer him as well the question if you don't mind me throwing in this question some of the different texts on this but Jeff asks. If Labor loose would Jeremy Corbin stand down. Joe McDonald The chancellor said yes of course he would say no I'll start. But there's something about the I mean the last political leader of a major party to lose 2 elections not stand. Was Edward Heath in the 1970 s. So I mean the shelf life of political leaders now is much shorter I think it would be. I mean I think it would be very unlikely that Jeremy Corbyn could carry on but. You know what we saw what we saw from 2017 is that he led labor to the kind of defeat that strengthened his position in 2017 and made him. And made him kind of an aside an unassailable within the party. No doubt that if he's if he's a candidate even after a defeat in 2019 he would be he would be a he would be very hard for for anybody to beat him in terms of the in terms of the the electorate of Labor members and supporters they get they get the vote because he's a Victorian in 2015 and then again and in 2016 was was so we so huge that it's hard to see how he how he could lose but John McDonald did suggest that he did suggest that he would go you know being civil from carry on after a 2nd different and the Germans also said that if that were the case and he them then the next leader labor would be a woman and why I'm going to have to paraphrase Joe in Bristol's text here if you had a vested interest in one way or another. In the in revoking Article 50 or not would you have to declare that upfront for example if . You know your business that you had or family members business might. Benefit or otherwise from the revoking of Article 50 would you have to declare that you wouldn't have to would you. And the members into I mean it if you were not to politician as an m.p. The would be the members' interests where people could where where people could see what your business interests or your family was yours directly rather than your family member Yeah Yeah Yeahs as well but a but I think that it would be but it's so it's such an intangible topic anyway that you know that I think that people would would claim that they don't have any direct they don't have any direct. Benefit from the from revoking Article 50 or or No Deal or whatever I mean there are plenty of there are plenty of accusations about you know about about party funders and hedge funds and all of that you know and all of the thrive and security and all that type stuff but it's very. You're talking about 66 degrees of separation I suppose. If I mean theoretically if it was if it was clear cut that somebody would benefit personally from a political course of action he'd expect them to be pushed on that during the campaign and certainly once so he was elected that have to declare that in the members' interest I'm not sure it ever gets to that are you by any chance a fan of to pack. More of a Biggie Smalls man how well me too far enough to notice the back is close to ours obviously they go together. Yeah not quite like a horse and carriage levers because achieved by 2 pair is look I wouldn't be here today if the old school hadn't paved the way and the reason why I'm mentioning that is there is. That one of our Listers wants to take us back to the old school when it came to elections this is Andy Lincoln he says hey guys look the election is more about socialist versus capitalist your member but he's talking about socialist versus capitalist labor. There is no. Caffeine as it should have a full stop after because it is labor as his out at big business and this is what the lecture that used to be what elections are about was in the old days versus go up to the what ever happened to that this time or yeah now I mean I think there is a serious point there on it not for what the old school but I mean that I'm this point does have a resonance on it and if you look at the way that the way in which we thought political parties were destined to be forever we thought that the you had a leadership that would drive towards the center that would take parties away from their ideological core in order to capture the mythical kind of median voter the idea that voters in the center were where you could win elections you could maximize your vote by getting. By converging towards the center and so Party leadership were more moderate than past see. Party activists party members and members were and voters were somewhere in between now what we. What we have had not just in Britain but I would say throughout most of the. Most of the kind of Western world post 2008 is a kind of hollowing out of the center and they and certainly if you look at the Conservative and Labor parties in Britain right now they have they both have leaders who owe their position not to the parliamentary party not to the voters for that party but to the rank and file activists by this of their parties Boris Johnson even though he won the vote of most of the most of the M.P.'s in leadership campaign you know his secret to success was that he was the darling of the grassroots and that the feeling that he could cut through to the to the public as a consequence Jeremy Kyle. Appeal is that he is he is refashion labor on that kind of activist activist. Campaigning fronts that is much more about a kind of vision of socialism rather than social democracy and so you have seen a kind of hollowing out of the center and I think and he does make a good good point that it is even more than in the seventy's in Europe you know jury during the old school days if you like I think that there is a much more logical bent to the current sea party battle that we see the that we're seeing now that's not just happening in Britain you know it's happening in most of it in lots of areas of Central and Eastern Europe it's happening in you know it's not that different to what happened in France. We macron it's not it's certainly not very different to what's happening in the United States where you're seeing you know openly socialist Democrats like Bernie Sanders you know actually building support in the Democratic by based on the nice populist politicians of the rights. Appealing to a feeling so it's a pretty radical right wing right wing agenda as well so has been a hollowing out of the center in politics has become much more much more polarized as a consequence much more dichotomous much more yes know much more binary much more much more on off and much more conflict chill rather than consensual was the last time an American president. Made intervention into. Plaited intervention into the British election campaign is President Barack Obama in the Barack Obama of the 26th the new director of course because he said that thing you'd be on the ballot I could get you back of the queue is this comparative to that what bar is sort of the what the President Trump was saying this week say this yeah yeah I think you are and he's far more in fact take from from President Trump actually be. As you know yet because he's having a you know Incidentally I just tell you Apropos nothing at all but I just have to share this when somebody asked on Twitter any of the of the other day when was the last time we had an election so close to Christmas and the answer came back from somebody else on Twitter that it was 2003 in the Love Actually election that saw Hugh Grant elected that was the last time we we had a we had a general election so close to Christmas Yeah Ok. Thanks for that thanks for that. Yeah when we have the election the parliament will then be in recess went. 7 to 12 related to sell it off yeah I mean there is a chance that parliament parliament could come back again before the New Year but I think not be pretty unlikely a lot will depend on on what the the new government's plans are for the for the withdrawal agreement so if if for instance the conservatives wanted to point the manifesto that were we that we would leave the by a certain point the end of January or something like that then that would suggest that Parliament might the parliamentary recess over Christmas might be shorter than than you would otherwise yeah and Joey Susan that we were talking about. One of our listeners says this is David encroached on these are pulled i.t.v. Won't have Joe Swinson on the leaders' debate. To go for the main 2 you can. Of argue fair enough it's binary in that respect even though the main to belong to the old parties but nevertheless. Does David have a point that he says blatant sexism and gagging one of the key choices at the election is what's at play he wants to hear yeah I'm not sure if it's I mean I'm not I'm not sure if it's if it's inherently sexist. Cause he might be better at it I think it might be I think it might also be true that. The framing of that the by my might have been that they thought that was the way that you could get Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn to agree to it you know the. Both the conservative on labor parties will be very we'll be very struck by a memory of of the of the 2010 campaign and the 1st ever leadership or debates that we had in Britain where we have this so-called notion of Clegg mania where people were introduced to to a politician who largely had escaped their attention in Nick Clegg up to that point and he did make you know he did make a. Very large impact during the jury during those campaigns I'm not sure if it's sexist However you could say you know one of the facets of the run up to the you know the you know the the the dummy campaign for jury jury journey selection one of the features of that is just the number of sitting female M.P.'s who have decided not to stand against us suggests that there is something very toxic going on arising The There are rules about this you know given that the amount of Publisher you get from one of these debates or other nights of Urals where there are rules are the forcing you know the 3 main parties forming by as many or whatever share of the vote your party gets there should be those rules after those rules have to be have to have to be agreed by the political parties and most most sitting Most sitting Prime Ministers have a vested interest in not turning up to those. Things remember David Cameron didn't you know after 20 tourney didn't even the eternal permit and the very limited conditions in in 2015 to reason and to long to stand in for her in the only the only campaign the Conservatives were in though the people leadership of the vote the conserve his running 20 something and just to be clear the proportional representation is not going to have any part to play in this election as it's not it's not an issue doesn't seem even the Lib Dems are. Arguing about Remain way for if you know how controversial it would be to to to overturn the referendum of 2016 on the 202620161 the well in 202011 we had a very emphatic referendum on the electoral system and so to overturn the might be even more controversial proviso under Russell thank you very much and thanks everybody took part in this conversation but even by phone now the latest 5 Live lines as to cause an on digital b.b.c. Salads must be gum and this is c.d.c. 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Championships I still believe Michael Schumacher now has applauded the British driver is just overwhelming and if I'm really honest it was such a tough race today I mean I don't know about championships but as an athlete I feel fresh as can be right now so these next races we won't let up we'll keep pushing but our commentator Jack Nichols has caught his breath to tell us how the Mercedes drive a sealed the win how was it only needed an 8th place finish to secure the championship and starting 5th on the grid it would have been reasonable to expect a cautious conservative race but that's not the way how Bolton is wired he gained one place at the start overtook Sebastian Vettel in super fashion and employed a bold strategy to try and beat his teammate to the victory while the tiger didn't pay dividends he nevertheless wrapped up his $6.00 world title in aggressive style and of course his most a d.c. 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Sport. Futuristic scruffy her. a child around and arrive at some town often in France or Spain or Italy or somewhere like that and you literally arrived on the day of some festival that you knew and absolutely nothing about and holds how good Basically they threw a party for my arrival that's the way I looked at it and often these festivals was steeped in religious tradition Well it's not just in Europe over the weekend Mexico marks its most famous holidays the day of the Dead it's a tradition that dates back almost 3 millenia but in the last few years interested it has been stood though not shaken by Britain's most famous by you know I'm talking about I was in dharmas all forever with him never mind up Jamie Stang groom has been to Mexico City to find out death is being celebrated in Mexican culture thousands of years and the day of the dead is a national holiday where families welcome back the souls of a deceased loved ones. Got to do with James Bond. Jamie sang grim in Mexico City to find out how 2015 Spector still Britain's most famous fictional wage and reinvent the way his ancient tradition is celebrated. And the mind media's mediate meals in Mexico City did sometimes they are using these kind of feel from our Mexican tradition became so spectacular that when the film came out the city was inspired. The opening scene of. The film is in my opinion the most iconic and ambitious in history partly because I need to justify making an entire radio feature on it but also because it involved 1600 extras a helicopter fighting a no fly zone and the business district of the biggest city in North America shutting down for 10 days which is where I am right now I'm standing on. In the city's historic center and this is where the scene get started with a huge day of the dead parade float giant skeleton puppets everybody is in full costume and this is slightly different vibe today as people make their way to work but maybe like me when you saw that scene you for. Just a typical day at the Dead think that's common in Mexico tac arrears and to cater only answer to that is a big fat Dr because priest backed parades like this didn't exist but now it's an annual event the film's co-producer from Mexico. Of Red Rum productions taught me for a more traditional way of celebrating that they have that that in Mexico sounds parade day of the dead. Tradition where you celebrate your dead as you do. For your dead loved ones in the Algiers you put your pictures and you put decorations and you put you know things that they liked you know so their favorite foods everything that they like to basically honor them the ideas that you know their spirits in the middle of the night in take things to enjoy of the big squares of Mexico City or the you know cemetery churches as cultural centers usually have these very monumental things that we call a friend which are these altars and it's very beautiful because it has you know the paper maché that have on the skeletons and it has the actual skeletons it's very very colorful and very. Uniform there is a yellow flower that's called. So everything is gets decorated with candle was full of you know discord solve hers our work etc That is the traditional celebration but in terms of having a parade in Mexico City the capital of the country it wasn't I think was it until after Specter wasn't. Early on in the scene bomb makes its way into a super posh hotel the beautiful grand hotels the adad there Mexico and I'm standing outside it because I can't afford to be in it and it was also by the way used in 1990 license to kill I can actually see the lift that Daniel Craig goes up in before you enter the bedroom where he makes a rare passing a love making opportunity before then climbing through a window to push you a bad guy before eventually we joining the parade Amanda's had the idea of having it be a you know very spectacular parade with Dan seeing him with floats and stuff like that so basically the art department the production signer the costume designer and all of the Mexican creative team that helped them here created this amazing parade with all the craftsmanship and or the art work and all the Inspir you know inspired on all of those day of the dead decorations and dance seeing in traditional music and it became so spectacular that when the film came out the city was inspired to continue doing that parade which they have since and it's become more and more and more popular I mean this year I know that they're doing 4 different parades one of the style of the film in terms of kind of like the floats and I understand last year there was like 300000 people that showed up to see her a bit it's become really really a beautiful tradition I think so this thousands of years. Old tradition to a slightly different form now has its new tradition courtesy of James Bond Yeah well I have to say I think the ancient tradition remains and now there is like a modern version of it that is you know related to the film Shine the light on the art and the music and the food and everything involved with the traditional day of the dead per you know celebration so I think the fact that there's a parade now is very cool because that you know it attracts people from different parts of the world and it's very cool to see it morphed into something like that how much personal credit you take for it how the mall has none none at all I think it was you know. It was these men this is a the air and and you know that we the only credit we take is the you know we were very proud to be a part of it and being able to it as a symbol a team in bringing artists from different parts of the country did had the opportunity to showcase you know from Barry humble very small communities very small villages of the country that do beautiful craftsmanship spectacular monumental work I've seen some people some people have been critical of it only local people I saw mention they've accused the government of cashing in almost in sort of bowing to Hollywood influence of course I think that the general on you know take I think people find it amusing that you know that it was inspired in triggered by a Hollywood film but I would say generally speaking people see it as a very positive thing and I think they're negative you know the people who see the negative side of it are fewer a lot fewer than you know just everyone is happy with the result and it's happy that Mexico being a neighbor to the u.s. Has always had a huge influence on you. Us culture so you know how are we sometimes in for a kids was kind of how we was sort of taking over the day of the dead and sometimes new generations were forgetting the day of the Day celebrations and the fact that films like James Bond films like Coco have put it you know back in a really you know huge spotlight and made it part of the mainstream pop culture bit with that traditional route it's never forgotten I'm now just a yo yo sauce throw away in Sokolow the 2nd biggest city square in the world after Red Square and it's where the parade ended in the film of the dramatic helicopter fight and this year's real world parade actually started here just of a day and hundreds of performers giant puppets and floats made a formal journey west to Pa Langkow I was there and it sounded something like a vase. And. Now I don't want to leave the rest joining in any kind of way but this is about you but it. Doesn't actually feel like I've stepped onto the steps back to. The space he said more than 300000 people attended last year's parade and I wanted to know how this year's compare the next day I spoke to the c.e.o. Of the Mexico City Tourist Board Paolo Felix Diaz It was hard work we have been planning this for one year a lot of people worrying ball 2600000 people came yesterday a lot of people that's a lot of people we are really happy because this is a party for the people not for politicians not us. Government it's a carnival for all that keeps the Mexican To really important the traditions in Mexico City about the Dead because it's not a color we so obviously this is the message that you want to give to the world not just about Mexico City but also its Mexican culture in general and and I suppose it is perhaps confused with Halloween sometimes not. To vote for non Mexican people yes no they of their the other word to us is it's not connected with Halloween because color when it's American ideas and you go like some b. Style but they are there are all the people that have they are not with us anymore in the it's a tribute this is a Harry Tash that we have in Mexico City of our ancestors something that belongs to us in Debbie a lot really important obviously it's a tradition that has been celebrated here for thousands of years and I think celebrates an important word because maybe when you don't understand the festival and you see all of the imagery and obviously the subject matter you might think it's a bit more bit but actually is a celebration as you said how much influence as James Bond had on this parade it helps a lot to put us in the eyes of the world because the mpact with that kind of movie it helps a lot better it also opened their their heart and their mind of millions of millenia in Mexico City that sometimes they are using these kind of laugh from our Mexican truck these sions to be in these kind of the events that make you feel that you belong to something spectrum open that door we make this like a carnival like the carnival of trust he'll That way the festival calls that the other mortals face devalued the other mortals in Devon last year now because it's a door for the world to see Mexico City with this explode. Magic we have. These are our collective creative artist they make these puppets really impressive puppets really be and they are they being here yesterday they were there they were in the in the carnival but in these are in disarray for where from what are they ones that they use from the movie spectrum right so they were the same people who created the puppets for the film that created them for the parade and we can that's right we are suspecting in 2020 to have 5000000 people here Mexico City 22 any day of that it will be us or price is James Bond coming back is that a surprise that the networks work in the helicopter making of the their role with of the parade and they were saying days not only. In the. Walking through this area central historical imagining it being shut down for 10 days or filming is kind of crazy would be the equivalent of shutting down the West End of London and it's hard to imagine when you think about the impact on Taurus residents traffic businesses so back a south Mexico City office I asked Stacy how to fund the ball they pulled it off you are production company and compassing production company but when an international production like Spector comes knockin days still send their own crew today hi you just for the location side of things all day high all of the services they hire all our services so basically aside from our own productions and things that we developed out of our own electric script aside from that we also have gathered quite a bit of experience working for Americans to use and platforms like Netflix and Amazon doing production services for them which means doing everything production wise in. Country getting crews getting locations getting equipment you know et anything anything that's needed permits government affairs and anything related to actually producing a film so I usually come in as a producer for on the projects that we get hired for and assemble or creative team or you know a technical crew that supports a combination of either doing it mostly with a Mexican crew or in cases like James Bond it's a combination of an actual abberation of a u.k. Crew or crew from all over the world that becomes very specialized in certain things and that work with Mexican crew that we you know that we work with us and that we bring to the table from the location point of view of using Mexico City yes obviously a big sea you are using a big part of the historic center of Mexican city Centro historical Yes that's my Spanish but you were just using it for you know a casual afternoon using it for 10 days presumably you have to knock on doors to business is small street vendors to a big you know retail stores and ask them to shut down is that right of course yeah so like you say was cowed like the 1st you know the 1st quarter of the downtown district of Mexico City starting with the main square and all the streets around it and it wasn't only the streets that we actually filmed on but every street that needed to have you know equipment on it or access that was shut down etc So there was a huge impact to the normal operation and traffic and pedestrian traffic of the downtown area so so yeah like you said it was like a you know huge endeavor of 9 months of you know permits that had to do with heritage buildings government permits it had to do with. The president's palace is in the main square what we call the so-called Square and the mayor's office is also in that square so it's a no fly zone for helicopters and we were doing obviously this huge sequence that involved you know aerial acrobatics you kind of needed a helicopter didn't Yeah yeah exactly so so like you said knocking on doors we had a gigantic location team that worked for months and months and not done every door neighbor you know even the newspaper stand a guy that you know shines the shoes and 2 up to the big retail stores and restaurants and bar and office buildings everything had to be like you know we had the museums we had that like a different access for museums or shut them down entirely you know that it was incredible logistics that went into that So what kind of reaction or just a reactions did you get from people when you asked them well you know it's it's it's strange for the most part you know people who are very welcoming in you you know they sometimes are even understand what you want to do or why you want to shut them down and pay their loss of business for the day or where of you you want to keep them open that you're not going to do going to shut down the street so they need to be open for to you know so they can be filmed as an open shop bit no one's going to buy anything so you have to pay the loss of business so people sometimes don't even understand that and for the most part you know people are very welcoming to it sometimes you get you know the difficult Mavor of the restaurant owner that is not interested that doesn't want to impact his customers and is very upset that this year you know that you're going to be you know closing down the street that have things so it's a balance it's a lot of you know a lot of the locations team. With that has to be very. Very persistent and it takes it takes a lot of legwork you mentioned it took 9 months to get to you know the stage you've been able to to put this thing together if enough business is sick now that meant you couldn't do this did you have a plan b. In terms of the location come you know this is such a big scene I'm guessing it wasn't too many options before that square was chosen and before those streets of downtown were chosen we did scout with the production designer and then his cast there we did scour many cities in Mexico not only in Mexico City and many districts within Mexico City as well and ultimately you know the Soco Square was the most impressive and the architecture of downtown Mexico City is what segment this you know wanted to use to in the film for the for this spectacular sequence so so that was was where was chosen we always thought that we would get it we had a lot of support from from mayor's staff is the tourism board everyone involved because how is the it's a great thing for the city not only because of the foreign investment that it brings for to shoot a sequence like that and that also because you know becomes very emblematic So you know we had a lot of support to be able to speak with a art intrapreneur that you know that could have been affected or could have said yes or no in there in the downtown district also get them to explain that you know that the government was behind the project and that it meant a lot in that it was going to actually be very good for shooter business because it would bring a lot of tourism as it has to the city what would you say was the biggest challenge the biggest one challenge pulling all of this off I would say getting on the government entities and everyone aligned to say yes to shutting down the main square. Era of Mexico City as a whole was the biggest challenge and I would say production wise the biggest biggest challenge is that there was a helicopter. That was the acrobatic helicopter there was a very specialized her copter that was brought in from the United States for this stunt pilot that is you know was the only guy in the world that could actually flip the helicopter Ok in the air and have it be late that way and then flip it back before obviously crashing into the ground and it was a very specialized helicopter and during one of our shooting days. The helicopter what we had 2 twin engines for safety and for. Power one of the 2 agents went down. So we basically were at a point where we might have had to stop shooting. If we didn't get another helicopter like that that there wasn't another helicopter of that that you know with those specific Asians in the country and we were we had this massive lock up of streets all these businesses already paid for and we were shooting the next day so at the end you know at the end of one of the shooting days in the afternoon we everyone went into you know huge alert because we needed to find a way to solve that issue so luckily between you know the u.k. Team and nurse we were able to find an engine. Did an engine that was compatible with this helicopter and get engineers and mechanics through the night to basically in take out the engine there was gone and then put this new the rooster again Chip in yeah and put put this new engine into the helicopter in order to be able to fly and it was like the biggest nail biter that you could ever imagine. And and everything was lined up and luckily you know the helicopter was fixed and we could shoot the next day most felt good when you when you pulled it out we'd we all felt we all were like everyone was like hugging the next morning when the helicopter landed in the square it was like this you know really exciting moment. Being here this time of year you can really get a sense of how deep it all took that they have that that is the next thing so to say James Bond reinvented it simply isn't true but from what I've heard and seen it's definitely created a little tradition of its own within it and help younger generations engage with Everett's at the same time winning Stang room East Anglia reporting from Mexico City the names at the bar by the way also the idea but. 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