Them in Wales to be handed over to the Welsh government which has wanted these powers for several years but the u.k. Government is likely to be more reticent having said it sees no need for duplication a study of 13000 people with long term health conditions such as arthritis is found they're more likely to suffer pain if they can to him it in windy they recorded their senses and smartphones with researches comparing them with local weather via g.p.s. Professor will Dickson is from the University of Manchester patients will often tell their doctors that their joints are more painful with the weather and it's not uncommon that doctors will dismiss them so 1st of all it provides evidence Secondly given that we work out the relationship between weather and pain it may generate the opportunity of generating a pain forecast and that's helpful so that people can plan their activities and then lastly we can pass this information on to other researchers and that May 1 day in the future lead to new treatment options Coldplay have apparently Rafale the tracks of their latest album in the classified ad the newspaper and ads for everyday life such as along ones for fridge phrases bales of hay and a divan bed in North Wales Daily Post band member Jenny Buckland who grew up in French irate on Twitter he once had a holiday job at the paper now let's take a look at the sports with the well to morning well the Champions League holders Liverpool at the halfway stage of the group's group stages how to for one victory away to the Belgium side Ganguly going into the 2nd qualifying smart behind Napoli reporting on their game on they were both victory was Alan Green Sharjah really comfortable when for the European champions but it wasn't certainly not in the 1st Even word oxalate Chamberlain shot them separately in front in the 2nd minute Liverpool had problems when getting hit long passes over the top some of his equaliser ruled out by bar after a miniscule offside oxalate Chamberlain scored the better 2nd goal of drop by man is Salah added. Other goals and a better 2nd half display but Koppel still be persuaded that old days corporate game. Alex Oxley Chamberlain got his 1st goals in the competition in 18 months after his long injury lay off this was the reaction of his Liverpool boss year can plop absolutely great moment for him a box of performance what I would say exactly like the performance of the teams of the goals were great. But others could have been better that's all it is it's no problem yet the goals worsened sation a very important for us so Liverpool then in croup a in 2nd spot at the barber Chelsea a top of Group h. On head to head results all thanks to a victory way too i.x. Amsterdam b.b.c. Football correspondent John Murray was at the game this was another kick in the teeth for i.x. From a visiting Premier League club 5 months on from Tottenham his last gasp semifinal win here Chelsea also want this one late 2 of manager Frank Lampard substitutes Pulis 2nd but surely combined in the 86th minute to crash the shutting off the underside of the bar after an entertaining 1st half in which I actually tickle ruled out by the a after a very tight offside and Alvarez was later a whiff of a post away from giving them the lead Chelsea substitutes made the difference as they made it 6 consecutive wins and righted some of the damage from their opening Group defeat at home to Valencia and this was the reaction of the Chelsea boss Frank Lampard the signs are good and on the signs are good and. Sets it apart before the game 5 wins in a row is really dangerous it's really dangerous because it can make you sloppy and make you switch off and think everything's fine 6 wins even more dangerous so that's the message about the no Messi has become the 1st player to score in 15 consecutive Champions League seasons as the group athlete is Barcelona trying to narrow to want success at Slavia Prague Well today are still Manchester United Wolverhampton Wanderers Celtic and Rangers are all in action in the Europa League the 90 go to parties and Belgrade. On the back of a 6 game run in all competitions with no victories and wolves go to slave Bratislava having given away 21000 tickets to under 14 Slaven Bratislava to get round a ban on their adult fans well in the championship last night Alexandra Mitrovica scored a hat trick for Fullam they defeated Luton 3 to Bristol City now 4th in the table after a $21.00 victory of a child and not to go forest could have gone 2nd but they missed out of they were beaten 2 wanted time by whole city and Glasgow City right to 13th successive Scottish Women's Premier League title with a 10 mil win over Motherwell in Formula One Rhino been disqualified from this month's Japanese Graun pray for having an illegal driver aid system down you Ricardo has lost 6 balls and Nico Holcomb burgers last 10th Swat despite those results I Miss Avies still crowned as constructors champions now to rig the union and defense coach John Mitchell says Good luck to anyone who might have been spying on their training sessions he doesn't see any advantage in it welling global take on the champions New Zealand in the World Cup semifinal on Saturday the flanker some Underhill says they won't be taking too many problems over the next few days with any big game this or censor Cajuns already there's the excitement already there in the background so I don't think it takes too much to get to another level in terms of physically or emotionally I think when you turn up in Germany speaking that's the one is he'll of name that in this one it just the one change of the side which defeated Ireland survey and moves to 7 Scott Barrett is it 6 and with Wales taking on South Africa in the 2nd semifinal on Sunday they're hopeful of having centers how many parks and Jonathan Davies back fit to play skills coach Neil Jenkins says that Davis is a key player for them to get him back to it so I like to think he's going to be you know taking full partners we can train and on and off he fit for Sunday stories. He's a key player for us as I said last week he's a big player you know some that we need for it realistically or we did exceptionally well and sending in the time to play about the more numbers we have the better I don't see the more time to play 3 have ready and fit better and Game 2 of baseball's World Series the Washington Nationals of how many Houston Astros by 12 to 3 it means that the Nationals like if their 1st ever World Series a 2 nil ahead in that best of 7 match series. Now for a look at the weather he is Louise Lin at the b.b.c. Weather Center good morning well it's a very messy weather story across the country over the next few days but we can split the country into 2 we'll start off in Scotland and Northern Ireland where heavy overnight rain has eased away to clear skies and we're going to see a day of sunny spells and scattered showers with winds strengthening to Gail's later on in the day with highs of $11.00 to $14.00 Celsius now for England and Wales it's going to be a cloudy relatively mild start like patchy Ramos in its way south and east and perhaps it's here for much of the afternoon but behind it quite a clear and sunny spells a dry air brief interlude before we see if you shop showers into the often 8 and highs of. $13.00 to $15.00 Celsius and as we move out of Thursday into Friday it looks as though Scotland and Northern Ireland will stay under the influence of low pressure which drifts its way steadily east that's going to drag in cold af from the north and it will turn increasingly windy gales will severe gales on exposed coast and real Russia showers into the northwest some of these tiny wintry to the tops of the mountains for England and Wales under the influence of Malta. But we are going to see a weather front that will drift its way steadily northwards during the course of Friday's can bring some rain some of it heavy into southwest England Wales and Northern England and once it arrives it's here to stay now this is the dividing line between the cold air to the north but it will bring some heavy persistent rain for a time through Friday Friday night and into Saturday before it slowly clears away to the southeast but it could bring as much as $100.00 millimeters of rain 4 inches and that is enough perhaps to bring the risk of some localized flooding. Well as Take a look at the front pages now this morning the discovery of those 39 bodies in a refrigerated lorry trailer in Essex dominates this day's papers The Guardian says a wide ranging measured. Geisha has been launched into Woods is the U.K.'s worst migrant tragedy in almost 20 years police are working to discover the identities of the 38 adults and one teenager Meanwhile the Times says the case was my great tragedy as since 58 people died back in the back of a lorry the pools of dove and 1000 years ago why were the warnings ignored the Daily Mail asks while the Daily Mirror features an image of the lorry describing it as a tomb of steel and stream of a new life ends in horror is what the eye says the paper says every pools in the u.k. Has a trafficking problem the time now is 550. Wake up similarly for. British Steel a still up for sale or rescue deal in the offing since August is set to collapse as the preferred bidder hasn't sealed a deal before today's deadline so now the government says it's open to offers all the 5000 workers at British Steel back to square one will take a look at workers in retailers while making headlines. Here the British retail consultant is calculated that $85000.00 jobs have been lost in retail during the past year so we'll be asking how does the city view the sector and the struggle to get crops to the shops this morning a shortage of workers means food is being left to rot in fields we'll take a look at what can be done there and the sustainability of how to wade from pumpkin waste to plastics wake up some money. It's making. You can be talking a lot about the steel industry the retail sector today and I'm no lawyer that comes down to job concerns job losses that have already happened job losses that may well happen whether it's in the businesses themselves the further down the supply chain so we'd like to hear from you this year if if from you today about this year if your job has been under pressure at all you may have a. Your job this year. What's the market like at the moment in the retail sector in maybe the steel sector in the supply chains around that would like to hear your stories this morning if if you feel like 2019 has been a year where your job has been under the cosh gimmicky we talked and I know that employment figures generally have been very strong for quite a few years now is stronger than many expected after the financial crisis but this year in a cup in a few sectors we start to see real pressure on the future of people's jobs Yeah I mean there's nothing worse than losing your job as a real show real experience and it's like that from experience but the thing is there's a lot of work around just that some people are finding that when they go for these jobs because I've lost their job. It doesn't buy enough he doesn't plan after cover the mortgage the rain and everything else and you're left wondering what about do so let us know if you if you've been through that a toll over the course of 20191 way or another we'd like to hear your positive stories about how you maybe have got back into the workplace but also if you've got a tough story to tell let us know 20 listeners always very handy on their tips about what to do next and why now a deal to save British deal should have been signed off 4000 employees in Scunthorpe 700 on Tayside there's another 20000 linked jobs in the supply chain there and so if rescue plans by a Turkish company had been agreed then that deal should have all been done in just a bit today was the last day for that company at Terre holdings to be able to sign off something with the government after exclusive talks and so now the government is open to bidders for British Steel after the rescue deal as ended up coming to nothing so the Official Receiver which is running the sale on behalf of the government said. Any of the bidders let us know others are interested we've heard of Sanjay Gupta's liberty group according to reports and the Official Receiver said in a statement it would engage with these additional interested parties and they'll be talking to investors taking investors round pretty still sites over the coming days and weeks so that's or next stage of the process Mikki Yeah but I mean this goes back along why British Steel went bankrupt in May this year after the government refused to buy out is continue to try to sell process has gone on and has reported a loss of $5000000.00 pounds a week which is a lot of money nearly any language. Holdings the investment vehicle of the Turkish Armed Forces pension fund had agreed to enter into exclusive talks with the receiver in August but the actual bidder was that was a bit of a bone of contention with a lot of people I thought was a very strange move yet there were some eyebrows raised is why would the Turkish Armed Forces pension get involved in British Steel a major reason that there was a some optimism around that was because their holdings has a 50 percent stake in in Turkey's biggest steelmaker admin and has huge asset nearly $20000000000.00 worth of assets at the most recent count last year so a company or investment vehicle that has done this kind of thing before and people could have potentially seen sort of synergies between Turkish business British business and that was an offer that was on the table and with the reports this morning the Financial Times reporting Network Rail is planning to reduce the amount of tracks it buys from British Steel to guard against the risk of the manufacture of folding as that rescue attempt appears in Dad's and becomes a playing of confidence in the end and if you haven't got confidence in supply you have to Michael transitive around humans so we're going to be discussing this with Charlotte childs who's the union organizer. The g.m.b. Union worked to control it still works for 11 years Claire Davis is well he is an expert on the steel industry from work University looking at what the prospects mean how it feels for those 5000 workers across from Thorpe and Tayside as well let us know your thoughts 8505 I like to money would like to. Discuss more about what is going on in the still sector. Rico squeaking is market fund there you know you heard it I'm sorry. Just a reminder that is there yes we've got reading on the sidelines of course always Rickerby talking about we were always this this office sharing company that people are getting very excited about talked about Soft Bank get involved yesterday Japan Soft Bank effectively taking over and then you know reality starting to bite isn't it now because. They're having to make some big decisions big decisions indeed in media reports are saying that the firm would cut thousands of workers short and Mickey the Financial Times put the figure at around $4000.00 that's about a 3rd of its staff which numbered more than $12500.00. So Soft bank's chief operating officer who is now we work a new c f o. Might say look cloudy is really. Getting down to work and he wants staff to expect some major job cuts after a corporate shake up easing out Mr Newman who used to be one of the key. Drivers of we work yes the thing is I mean when I look at this or see that there is such a cost cuts this company it doesn't you wonder. The investment banks put the process tags on the business originally they did. I mean a lot of it must have been a work of Francis that's true it could be that's true that's true because earlier this year Adam Newman put the valuation of we work at around 47000000000 u.s. Dollars and there was so much excitement for its initial public offering a last month unfortunately there were a lot of losses margin calls. So now it's worth just about $10000000000.00 us dollars and Softbank which is now the majority owner of we work has a lot of work to do and to be able to you know say vente make and make it eventually profitable down the road they have to make these major job cuts very interesting if you're somebody that Red's an office somewhere in the u.k. And we got a pretty big impacts on market of of office rental space. A lot of commercial property coming on to the market as a result of this ratio but you know what who's the happy man from all of this corporate restructuring. Mr Newman he is set to receive an exit package worth nearly $1700000000.00 u.s. Dollars and that's what you call a playfully for life that's why a lot of people are complaining within the company Yeah guy who put your company into trouble $1700000000.00 and then employees like he or his nose is a job. No not good you know whether he's happy about being voted out of company founded or not sure but certainly 1700000000 dollars will help a little bit Rico thank you thank you gentlemen to morrow or next week when I'll be back tomorrow x. I think the Fridays with waiting on the sidelines. Looks into the distance have to fade in a way that was a half ago we have fairness and costs over this is well this morning market analyst City Index morning Fiona morning some of those we were figures I mean. Does it work you're talking to people all the time investing in these businesses and wanted to make money out of them do people just get carried away with the company like we were. Things that can happen I think it's something that we have seen. More recently. Being these sort of you know companies that have been making a profit and you know we we look at sort of. As a prime example actually IP age and those had sort of you know quite quite a problem then. The same sort of was happening with we keep getting carried away and that hype it was sort of being being pulled along by that hype and it hasn't and I haven't lived up to that hype and I mean that didn't obviously make it twice . Because of the problems that were coming forward but yeah I think this does get sort of pushed along and investors do get caught up in the hype quite quickly so the bigger the company the bigger the sell the bigger the failures that helps is a few years of record money along the way you know what we've got you know this we mentioned in the in the heads about what's going on the. The British reached out and sold him records is about 85000 fewer jobs in the recent retail sector than a year ago some months you know that is a huge number that the question but some would say the picture was probably seem a lot worse than that even yet if the High Street is having a really troubled time and this isn't something new they this isn't something that's just happened this year this is something that we've seen I mean the number of the Fool For example there was a report in The Telegraph morning saying for all over the past 7 years is down 10 percent so we think that but also the problems with for retailers we're seeing that not only bricks uncertainty with consumers reining in this spending but we're also seeing sort of habits changing and that's something that has been happening a little quite a few years you think that's the Internet effect in the you know for fall is someone walking into the store and I'm I will walk out again with I mean but when you think so it's a rough guide as to how busy the stores are but at the same time if the footfall figure is fallen timber saying that gives a clear indication that people aren't going to the stores as much as they were last year early before Exactly and that's really Heinzman the importance of having a solid online presence if we were going to sort of look at a company that actually bit of a bright spot in this area if you like it would be next No no I ne of face of obviously got their stores but they've actually managed to evolve and have a sophisticated online presence as while I'm out I actually help them with this very difficult climate I mean that their online presence sort of not only allows them to sell their own products they've got to live with that 3rd party goods as well they can do return sells they've brought you know they've they've really got it sort of the package covered. Other retailers who have managed to. Get that quite so sophisticated an online presence a lot more a member of the figures from next to last year that if you looked at them separately you know the only law and the you know the store sales the store sells a little bit flat as a pancake it was the growth that was being seen in the Internet which actually showed the company that produced the grossest oh yeah exactly and it's this ability to evolve and to be able to respond to the changing times I think about something that's really important and that's something that retailers need to respond to I mean you know there's we've seen a lot of sort of stores disappear from our high street think you know. Toys are awesome up in they've just disappeared. And it's not going to be the end of stores disappearing from our high street I think they do need to evolve in order to keep a presence there and 11 of the questions how to depose last week was the Thomas Cook takeover of Thomas Cook $555.00 branch networks said it was an undisclosed sum but we now learned it paid $6000000.00 pounds or $10800.00 pounds per store I mean this is a good wife snatching up a business you feel you can utilize on the cheap because that's you know you going to administration you approach the administrator once he's gone under and so you know what do you want me to pay for this it's seems natural business doesn't it yeah they've I mean that they've definitely picked up a painted up cheaply as you said you know where you can is 10008100 per store 10800 per store it's a very small amount tightly behavior but again this this is sort of you know it's a business model I guess today there was we've had these interviews with the past C.E.O.'s of Thomas Cook sort of you know as due to where the problem lies and what went wrong there and it was really interesting because I mean this is a very athletic heavy business model that again it didn't really it just. To the modern digital holiday market so they made the same similar in concept as we would talking about with the retail they that you do need to be able to really adjust that the move with autonomy when the time and sort of attract the millennium and I think a lot of people will be watching their what he's do with those Thomas Cook stores because there's been a was a lot there's a lot of good base enclosures all that and there will be but there's been a lot of goodwill isn't there behind a company like Hayes who folks I showed her it could be done Yeah by producing good will put is a positive story but at the same time it was a good business deal they got it cheap play and they saved a lot of jobs they have a little and that's something that a lot of people are trying to replicate across the retail sector and that would like to hear from people this morning actually if you've worked in the retail sector we're going to talk about still as well if 2019 has been particularly tough for you with your job as other it's under pressure not maybe sure how long you've got that security in your job or you you may have lost your job be this year 85000 people say. Oh yeah and their jobs this year so let's know you thoughts on that 85058 you want to send us a text hash tag wake up to money if you want to get in touch on social media. Thank you. Always at there was hard around at the field and I saw it from city index that's now you thoughts of your hashtags like it's a month. On digital b.b.c. 7 months to go from Venus is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live writes for 5 it's Thursday morning 24th of October and here's the news headlines is on the Hajis morning police investigating the discovery of 39 bodies in the back of a lorry in Essex of says 2 addresses in Northern Ireland the driver who is believed to be 25 year old my Robinson from County on Maurice being questioned on suspicion of metta Downing Street dismissed reports of disagreements within the government over how to move forward with Gregg says Number 10 has indicated Boris Johnson will seek a snap election if the e.u. 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Sounds out to music radio and podcasts. This week hello welcome to the show lots to discuss as ever how low in plastics you got your pumpkins up making. Ready to be scraped out to be looking at whether it's perm came waste the amount of plastics in all those how lowing good is it taking it too far to say come on we need to be more sustainable about that for. A year or actually could the retailers could as consumers be doing a lot more or make a real dent in the use of single use plastics particularly in our store so be looking at that we're going to be looking at farm workers this morning and the shortage of workers meaning 16000000 apples left to rot this year because there weren't enough people to pick them to get into the issues behind the retail workers as well this morning a big story that 85000 jobs have been lost so far this. Year the industry saying tough times on the high street if that if you have been a part of that in one way or another running a business maybe you have a job on the high street as well how's the year been less Now you thoughts hash tag wake someone if you want to join in the conversation and. Workers in Scunthorpe this morning and t. Start as well the majority of the British Steel Workers are in Scotland nearly 5000 . Will be wondering now again about the future of the business because today was supposed to be the deadline day for Turkey's Atta holding which represents the pension fund of the Turkish Armed Forces to have. Tied up this deal to take over British still after it had exclusive access to the books was given 10 weeks as a preferred bidder to be able to look at how it's going on them and then get the deal done and there was a bit of excitement at the time Mickey that somebody was stepping in to save British Steel 5000 jobs millions gone thought as I say but then of the 20000 jobs in the supply chain so where it goes next it is hugely important for a lot of people but now there is a sticking point yeah I mean the British still story is a bit unique because British dealers are understand it is a very specialised still produce it produces high quality still for specialist jobs and that sort of thing but it against the background of that of course you've got the contraction of the steel industry over the past 2030 years it's a shadow of its former self thousands hundreds or thousands of jobs alone in this country have been lost and this is the last thing British Steel really wants and so yes the background there British Steel bought from Tata are in 2016 for a pound by Grable that rebranded the business then to British Steel so makes long products big supplier to Network Rail but reports this morning that Network Rail planning to reduce the amount of bars because of the uncertainty around the company Let's talk to Charlotte childs who's a g.m.b. Union organizer worked at the top steel works for 11 years morning to Charlotte mamma and Claire Davis is the Royal Academy of Engineering Tata Steel professor of mechanical pro. Work university work with the steel industry clear morning to you. Well I think thanks for joining us both of you Charlotte's at the minute for those who work at the still work in scandal what is the feeling about the future of the company and. I think that there's been a sense of optimism on the planet for a while now with these military pension fund. Help people reaffirm what we knew in terms of it being a viable business moving forward to make them a really good state. For the u.k. To lose that money train capability obviously this new news plunges them into level of uncertainty but we know that I was a bit is that my comment if he still doesn't get. Certainly no. No that's the same the whole way through that the government needs to do everything they can to try to stay on making continuance comportment Teesside and the other British Steel plant including considering what is a ship if it's going to say I haven't a strike No it's not D.-Day and it's good to sort of emphasize that this was supposed to be a deadline day for that particular Turkish investor to get the deal done after having exclusive access to the books but do you feel as workers that you're back to square one. A little bit I think that everyone's away every day. They do best to make him well cos call a c.e.o. I think there's a days out there here in terms of the bottles that will fall and what a lot of the time and have to say that I went astray so it really is I think people just want them to get on with it now I mean to you so. We're just going we just want someone to fires that we continue to write this will cost. Jobs and you know. What do you think the problem with this deal I mean it can't be priced because the bone of the Official Receiver is going to be at a knockdown price anyway one would assume so easy about the backdrop for the steel industry or easy about the amount of money that is going to be needed to invest going forward. Well read point out to us wake and trade union officials over there and. To the British embassy in stumble and they said that. Means what it says in terms of investment and follows through on its promises and stuff we might break down says supply is not not being willing to renegotiate contracts. But obviously that those conversations are somewhat All I know is that if the supply is. The stumbling block blocking the right it's all very well. Trying to remain competitive partially if there's no steel is that there's nothing to supply class when you look at the industry as a whole are there particular issues you see with British Steel right now maybe why these tickets investors are jumping to take over the business. No He data is difficult to tell but it is very difficult time they pretend is it because all partition to the ceiling train we've seen and for that reason is the oversupply coming into the market we've also got uncertainty with regard to exit and therefore the all it is that will be in place. Still that is that it. Is a very challenging time there's going to be a degree of uncertainty and that will affect the investors to think that they're also rejects a punter investment. Increasing the amount of skill but also really the quality the skills that we talk that they have high quality skill production and that learning is a very important which was a competitive period in the global environment clear what what worries me about this day and has done from day one I mean if it comes off and I paid for it all well and good but. Isn't the investor and I'm afraid Bard falls for a code investors don't always my good businessmen in other words they don't know was run the company as well you know. To invest and get a return that doesn't mean the same thing they can run the business. No you are right it is a problem. Sealing history you see large capital equipment so it needs to be current just keep collecting glass at some point it becomes impossible to keep British high quality steels and completely. New international treaty should think important to take on the basis of the long term strategy as well as need be short term profit so that there needs to be the plan to spend to improve the processing capability to get the high quality steel guitar needed and it is it comes to get. To the pool including quantities that might even be in the city of highest strength or in crude for but military so that the products that they supply don't see also have high quality. Mention that you know people have been pretty positive in the workforce those hopes this deal will get done do you see sort of colleagues making major decisions about their futures because of uncertainty around their job or whether he's leaving British Steel law or the things they might be doing I think there's certainly being an increase in especially tradespeople of America or chops in the area Siemens not too far away making. Components for wind farms so. This certainly if it up but the stalemate. Is a bit. Over an in-joke this in their blood and that want to do anything else that I know I think that the vast majority that you have a members just want to see the stale industry survive and thrive. So there's not a mass exodus I don't think many people may have long term financial commitments in terms of August and stuff at the minute but it says. An industry that people want him to stay and I want I want him to saw. One of the suit has been tipped if this deal falls through the Sanjay Gupta's liberty group if you've managed to but now limits on for now exactly what he's planning. Not my level and. I'm sure it's like a fun call from uni could tell us. Would you have a view when you say all about you know that there are other buyers out there and Sanjeev Gupta is named as one what are you looking for as an employee in an owner. I mean you saw it on it the whole way when Grable came and took a over the. Investment bankers that are not always country long term investments the state of businesses and I think I think well well t.m.p. Members need. A long term commitment genuine commitment. And if I was well. You know the caller said there's no under constant push to improve the products that you may So that's that's what we want we want a commitment to work his terms and conditions a commitment competitive wages and a commitment. To still make him for years and years to. Make a quick. Strike in our industry. And hopefully the next owner of the steel will not be any of that thank you. Or plays out as well as it can do for workers it is going to top and Teesside it pretty stand on those in the supply chain as well Charlotte childs from the g.m.b. Union and thanks to Claire Davis as well from Warrick University thank you for your messages on the topic I shall break up the money if you want to join in the conversation Mike says fewer new cars less steel you know we've seen the car manufacturing engine really u.k. Not not making as many causes it was somebody else a one instead of losing this great British industry and company why is the government not giving companies like Network Rail incentives are tax breaks to keep them buying from British steel instead of going for substandard steel volume abroad when we don't know all there really is in China and of course the still wasn't always great from China but it's been dumping everywhere so that's not help matters for the industry as a whole and this morning as well we're hearing about these the count of job losses in the retail sector 85000 big. Year according to the industry and some are saying Colossus colossally high business rates uninspired premises shop staff apparently their need to rearrange the stock without knowing what the stock is does poor service I wonder why retail struggles there are some bright lights out there as well that's a point the British Retail. They complained bitterly about about the business rights but then so does every other business you do get a feeling with a general election on the horizon you know breaks it process playing out and some of these could become real big issues for a lot of people aside from breaks or going on key thoughts coming hash tag wake up to if you want to join in the conversation if you listening on the podcast talk apples now the National Farmers Union says 16000000 apples were left to rot this year because there weren't enough people to pick them now you work is make up 99 percent of the seasonal picking workforce industry reckons around 70000 more week work isn't needed to fill the gap the known e.u. Seasonal workers scheme allows 2 and a half 1000 people to come to the u.k. So what's going on where does this leave us we've got Martin Haynes used a farmer in Gloucestershire who grows peas broad beans pumpkins and sprouts as well as been struggling to get pumpkins to retailers in time following Adelaide Payson broad beans in the field as well Martin morning good morning apples isn't on your list but I use seeing an issue or 2 with the work is yourself. Yes. They're not coming anymore from Eastern European countries. Coming being going home so there is a shortage across the whole industry there are reports of people not having a lot. In vegetables as you see from the I think it's all new and old. But even just doing other work we have a neighbor who grows potatoes he couldn't find enough people to go on his potato harvest said that he stuck his potatoes he hasn't been able to pick out the stones on the clocks of soil as much as he drove like putting his potatoes into stole Why do you think there is a shortage. I think Brooke that makes anyone having to this country feel unwelcome. The pound you are a sick situation affects the people because you'll tell me and then you're coming to and money. And other European countries short of workers bringing in workers from abroad so Poland is Spain is Germany is where we don't allow it except for this trial so you know work a scheme where you put a fairly gloomy picture of what goes on I wonder if this varies from one part of the country to another because I'm sitting. From a commercial shoot there will be 50 people down there are going to die here in Cannes taking pricking the braai Burns Yeah and as for the Pumpkin's Well every farmer and I was a pumpkin patch now they invite families along and they pick their own. Well. There is that there it's also not everybody goes to a pumpkin patch there in in the supermarkets I can see the shortages appearing because we've been asked whether we have a more orders and that's because people have managed to harvest them got Jack Ward with this is well he's the chief executive of the British grows Association Hello Jack good morning is Martin story a familiar one to you then with them and this yes absolutely these are the kind of reports we're getting from around the country and that has been a steady decline year on year for the factors of margins just outlined this year I think the bricks effect is having a very negative effect there was been a lot of uncertainty about what was going to happen around the 31st of October and that's encouraged quite a lot of people to go home before any problems occurred and also has been a lot of negative publicity in other countries out in Eastern Europe about the situation in the u.k. And that is discourage people from coming but you know we've been getting these reports that crop has been lost throughout the season so it started with a very seasoned early in the summer you know we've heard reports of brassicas being left in the field. You know you touched on apples and saying that we're 50 Apple because but actually did that farm need 7 Seattle pickers and we've certainly Well it's getting the job done that's that's the main thing I mean have you thought about paying these workers more perhaps more would show up at the farm gate instead of get them through saying no no it's not a payment issue it's not a payment issue we were talking to apple growers yesterday and they were same people were earning 150 pounds a day picking apples Now the point you made about the apples are being picked important issue is about quality because you're trying to pick apples when the chemical content is that a particular level if you have to wait 2 weeks for those. Apples to be picked the chemical content then changes and so that then affects the storage of those products so actually it's much more complicated than just taking the apple off the tree after you know a little they get more laws they change color and they reckon this year's been the best year for color in 20 years yes yeah I want to talk about the chemical content about storage so it does have an effect if you can't harvest them at the right time if you're harvesting them 3 weeks late and you know the other problem with expenses years better the weather has actually been conducive to being out in the fields but you know it is very serious because the margins of the fresh produce industry a so you slip that you can ill afford to walk away from large volumes of crop you know quite high values Martin what do you think the consequences are that over the coming weeks for people who are going to be doing their shop and looking at the shelves in the supermarkets What do you see. I'm not sure the shelves for be empty because we're just import it it just means we're moving and losing business in this country and things won't be grown it's not going to come how much land have you got what can you grow it will be how many harvesters workers have you got therefore what can you grow and Jack what about prices do we see are we seeing changes in prices directly because of the shortage of workers if you talk about no you're not no you're not because in many cases the prices are agreed a year in advance for 2 years in advance so people are signing up to long term contracts and so the price doesn't change the margins absolutely right or we're going to see is an export of the u.k. Industry to another part of the world where they have got workers who know nothing to the farm a sign up to 2 years in advance is it the supermarkets you know the retailers Yeah I mean the people you're doing take it to by the supermarkets where you're looking for continuity of supply as a retailer and actually from a gross point of view you are looking for longer term contracts this is something that we've been saying for a long time is we don't want short term contracts you know that vary from month to month people want certainty but that often means signing up to a situation where you don't necessarily know what your costs are going to be in a year's time you know what we're saying this time is because workers are so short wages are going up in order to attract people of the helpless effects your net margin Jack just finally breaks it down with everything we've had over the last week but you know in one week's time we could still in theory leave without a deal what do you think of the current situation we're in with the way the government run it. Was just you know it's chaotic because actually below the surface there are a lot lot. That have to be sorted out you know at the moment we have freedom of movement of goods and services across you nobody really knows what's going to happen you know we are reliant we're moving into a period now where we're quite reliant on the importation of sickly salad crops. You know you don't actually know what's going to happen when your rival Cali with a lorry load less is what paperworks going to be required people prepared as much as they can but there is a level of detail which just simply doesn't exist Jack thank you Jack Ward who's the chief executive of the British gross Association and thanks as well to Martin Haynes farmer in Gloucestershire broad beans pumpkin sprouts pumpkins in the mix there as well what do you do about pumpkin waste about sustainability around Halloween around $7000000.00 Halloween costumes thrown away each year create about 2000 tonnes of plastic waste there's $83000000.00 plastic bottles worth you can buy how an outfit for as little as a fiver a major high street retailers that's what customers want it seems we spoke to Peter Andre's the head of sustainability at the British Retail Consortium to find out what retailers were doing to try and combat the hollowing costume waste what retailers a looking at doing is to increase the jury ability of clothing so it doesn't need to be disposed of as well as looking to reduce the carbon impact to the water impact and the waste impact and particular that waste impact is making sure that there are avenues to to send that garment when it's no longer needed whether it is donating it to charity whether it's selling it on to someone else whether it's taking it back into store so as well as costumes Halloween sees $8000000.00 pumpkins and $18000.00 tonnes of edible pumpkin flesh thrown away each year according to the charity hub bub and Sara Deval is from her Baba campaigns to reduce waste and protect. I so. Let's do plastic 1st as we've talked a bit about for vege already consumers want the stuff done there's only there's a reason the supermarkets are full of stuff for a fiver if consumers want it why would they change yet everyone wants to get involved and how do I mean it's an amazing holiday and you want to buy something for your kids so they can go into school in costume but it doesn't necessarily have to be a Halloween costume for a 5 year supermarket because you can get one for free either by using something you already have and turning into a new costume or borrowing it from your friends so most of it's cheap I mean doesn't change the year. Yeah I think you're right a lot of this stuff is maned really cheaply and as quickly as possible and also is that last that long so the idea is you can't go back again and boy when you said you know borrow from friends or or make it home every hit upon a point there about you know people are buying these Halloween costumes maybe for their kids time and people's time verses being sustainable yet and that's really difficult to cross the border in New York State ability the biggest thing that stops people from making a change is how much time they've got because we're all time poor we're too busy we've got loads going on but this is a really easy thing that you can do with your kids before Halloween they are parents Sarah says it's really. Over the next week just a big sheet surely exactly just a big See all see what someone's used the a before say to try to pumpkins though you know it's a lot that sounds like a lot of a lot of food waste from that again though is it not just some people don't want pumpkin tastes they want just a pumpkin sitting in their in their in their doorway October 31st and how are you going to change people's mentality around that well actually a hard over half of us have never even tried pumpkin before so I think it's more a case of people buy their pumpkin they've never had it they don't know how to cook it and they're a little bit afraid of it so they just chuck it in the bin so all we're asking people to do is give it a try recipe see if you like it and it might change your mind I do wonder sometimes if people actually know what pumpkin you know yeah it's not a normal thing that a lot of people and they get a bit scared because you have to cut but you have to cook it in a different way so you haven't tried it before it can be a bit scary. To Mickey's next to a. Nice i just as a so are you seeing businesses change you know people selling this to pumpkins are they actually making major steps to try and convince to do something with them other than just a candle and you'll find loads of recipes if you go to any of the major supermarkets they've all got incredible recipes for things you can do with your pumpkin but also a lot of pumpkins on them also. A carving pumpkin and I think that puts people off because I think oh this pumpkin is the carving it's not for eating which is a dull bit misleading because he's it misleading is all food and you can eat all of it. Is there I would say Right yeah I don't really want to be scrapping out there is that I'm making a soup out of it because it's it's not being grown to be exactly so this upset is that actually this isn't for me this is just me to put a candle and stick out my doorstep and leave even if you don't want to eat it don't put your pumpkin in the bin compost it put it in your food waste bin find some for it to go that isn't just in Mountville got your outfit made oh yeah weeks ago. I'm not so sure about that Sara thank you Sarah Deval there from Harbor Bridge campaigns to reduce waste and protect the environment make a huge star every moment stand in the doorway yourself yeah. That's it from Wake up their money today breakfast up next on digital radio f.m. Medium wave and p.v.c. Sound b.b.c. Radio Scott. Hello good morning the time the 6 o'clock it's Thursday the 24th of October a welcome to Good Morning Scotland with Hilly Miller and Gallagher this morning as the murder investigation into the death of 39 people find in a lorry container in Essex continues we get the latest on I do if they come up I can't speak English to hang. You speak to someone on the other end of a farm and I ask you to take them to an address coming up how communities in North Lanarkshire are working to cut suicide rates amongst young men we know that if you know somebody close to has died by suicide your own risk of suicide has increased and as ordered Scotland warned that the n.h.s. Faces a 2000000000 pound black hole if it doesn't reform we speak to the auditor general . All to come 1st a summary of the news the public spending watchdogs warning the n.h.s. In Scotland needs system wide reform if it's to survive or to Scotland says the service is financially unsustainable with intense pressure on. Staff and with health board struggling to balance the books more than 40 percent of the Scottish budget is spent on health but projections already show a funding shortfall of nearly $2000000000.00 pounds within 5 years the health secretary Jean Freeman says progress is being made but recognises it's not fast enough I think that we are actively working to increase the peace and we have seen a degree of increase in home quickly we are moving I think the auditor general also recognizes that more patients are being seen quicker than a year ago which is what I would hope we would be seeing and therefore we're on track to deliver the improvements that we need to deliver police investigating the deaths of $39.00 people who were found in a refrigerated lorry trailer have searched 2 properties in Northern Ireland it's believed the addresses are linked to the arrested lorry driver who is being questioned on suspicion of murder our Europe Correspondent Damien Grammatica sent this update from the Belgian port of Seabrook or where police believe the vehicle came from the federal prosecutors have opened their own inquiry now they are in contact with police in the u.k. And they are beginning their inquiries what they say is that they do believe the trailer came through here what they do not know is where it originated where those people might have got on board whether that was in Belgium and how long it spent it spent in Belgium all things that they want to try to identify Downing Street has dismissed reports of disagreements with Boris Johnson's government over how to move forward with the bricks of process Number 10 as indicated the prime minister will seek a snap election if the e.u. Proposes delaying the BRICs a deadline until January but some ministers are understood to want to focus on getting Mr Johnson's withdrawal agreement bill through parliament instead the prime minister is facing yet another critical vote today as M.P.'s will be asked to back the Queen's speech. The head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland has warned that the BRICs a deal could lead to civil disorder by loyalists if it was regarded as a threat to the union with the rest of the u.k. The government's current proposals would see checks on goods moving between Britain and Northern Ireland and have been strongly criticized by some unionist politicians the p.s.n. I Chief Constables sermon Simon burden told Newsnight there was no evidence yet of a loyalist backlash but express concern about high some communities may react in the future whatever ends up as a proxy deal if there is one could be perceived in a way that sort of threatens the security of the lawless community and therefore sometimes when the narrative is all about what that is and republics are going to do our concern is also a lawless community has at times shown it can mobilize quickly bring large numbers of people onto the streets and engage in public disorder more than 5000 sexual offenses against children were recorded in Scotland in the last year the children's charity the n.s.p. C.c. Has called for a transformation of the support system for children who've been abused a Scottish government spokesperson described child sexual exploitation as one of horror and crime and said they were taking steps to prevent and strengthen their response good tuner Renton reports the n.s.a. P.c.c. Obtained the figures from Police Scotland under a Freedom of Information request in Scotland 2819 there are 5325 offenses recorded including rape grooming and sexual assault this represents a 30 percent increase in the past 4 years some of the recorded cases are understood to be known recent child sex offenses the charity is calling for specialized services around the country they say the therapeutic support they offer to young people aged between 8 and 17 has shown a significant reduction in cycle.