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Radio. 5 Live boxing I welcome back to 5 Live boxing with Costello advance and this week as well as reviewing the weekend's events we reflect on the specter of death in the ring and how the aftermath affects those involved yes boxes that can come back on boxes that never fully recovered back in 3rd grade experiment was in a death fight with Scott West golf this Friday he's back in action and we here at length from that Spellman later in the show as he rebuilds his career more than 8 months on and preparing for his appearance in the ultimate box atonement in London this weekend as Steve says also this week Robert Smith from the British Boxing Board of Control gives us the board's perspective on the rules and regulations on Drug Abuse and white miking in response to what we heard from the president of the W.B.C. Mercédès Suman a few weeks ago on the podcast but we begin with a review of another busy weekend assessing Huey Fury's defeating ball Garia tough going also for Terry Flanagan in New Orleans and Danny Jacobs staying in the mix for the big middleweight showdowns to come but Steve fury widely outpointed by. I left in a heavyweight title eliminator in Sofia involved area home country fury caught in the 2nd round an old injury we learned afterwards which he sustained in training and there's been a bit of stick for him and his dad and trainer paid to online a bit of stick some odd way of putting it Mike certainly Peter fury is taking a lot more stick the PETA fury went head to head with thousands of people light on Saturday night after Hugh if you eat at last quite widely on points in a fight not so well off but in a fight of 2 in 10 rounds if I could if I could be so bold as to introduce a 2 in 10 what I mean by a 2 in 10 it says that something you would apply in my shop doesn't it sounds like something from the fifty's Oh give us a 2 in 10 of a there now a 2 in 10 is that for 2 rounds you know he was competitive he looked like he speed and his mobility was going to cost Cuba looked in great shape some problems and then the the old cut reopened that if you got a glimpse of the car that was over for caught my eye is like a half moon on these I ended up slightly dreadful pizza they went head to head with people on Twitter and it was savvy to some of the things that Peter tweeted at 24 well actually 23 Lennox Lewis term pro he lost the fight by a knockout Creech go last 3 times by knockout and they were turned into horrifying was here we come show into world level fights his future is bright he did his best on the bad circumstances he couldn't see out of the eye the ref stated he could have stopped it any time he went ahead with the fight injured to go down was he stopped one judge had it by just 2 rounds to left but then he did balance it pizza and he said if the I never went maybe the result would be the same and then he also added and this is disused this must have been hard for him to write but I believe is fully truthful I agree from the 3rd round on Woods Hughie showed nothing of note however days fights Mike Young boxes special in. Long Game hard to disagree we've all word that pizza few typed out on Saturday night I thought time Stephen and Tyson Fury his cousin tweeted and alluded to the fact after the afterwards that what Huey fury is doing at 24 is impressive but they were for me a lot of science during that fight that it was man against the boy and there is a lot for human fury to learn but I do think that there is some positive messages to take from that fight if you look at what he did when he stood his ground only for seconds at a time in the middle of the ring there is boxing ability there but he can't always show it on the ropes leaving himself under pressure so often and David Haye made a point in the studio afterwards he was working on the Channel 5 broadcast and he spoke about the right hand now at the right hand that I mentioned there in the 8th round was a kind of a long looping right hand which most of the time poor left sore coming model and other turned his shoulder or slipped inside or avoided it quite easily and David Haye made the point if that right hand was delivered straight it would have much more chance of getting home so a lot to take from the fight from here here he but there is for me a huge gap to preach I was kind of surprised Mike that he didn't it didn't turn that right hand slightly more and I'm wondering if I look back and some it's in my mind did you have an arm injury did you have a shoulder injury because it was almost like a defect that was looping over all of the time when the obvious combination for Poland who bought away in the until about Round 6 or 7 actually looked like he could win over or not so it was winning but actually looked like he was enjoying himself and fancied it how involved he was 7000 people genuinely cheering you could hear him John in Poland so of atmosphere there on the night but there were moments might when when our own waiting for you to do the same thing you just said they're not to back off the hole a bit of ground to hit him with a big straight jab and then turn the right hand not loop it over because pool of managed to avoid it in. Well but 9 out of 10 of those right hands all cite the sting out of the of most of the ones he did cite except for the ones who when he was hit in a frown not only was he her didn't he show it the worst poker face in the world he scrunched up piece face lucky being hit to let you know and then he ran 8 feet back and hit the ropes for gold psych now the one thing that did strike me is that Anthony Joshua only froze a straight right hand he can't loop a right hand he can't go over a high God which is why he had such a problem breaking down Colace tackle he kept trying to go fruit gloves instead of going around the back of the head bringing the gods around to find the gap and he just only froze a straight right hand we'll have to see a vastly different if that fight would happen next April the I was clearly the problem the fact that the referee did say could have stopped it at any point and the fact that both Peter and you he said after the fight he couldn't see out of it that has to be a Polish No it's not a defense but I might because as Pete a few he said there without the I the result could have been could have been the same so it's not it's not an absolute offense not like having a broken hand let me have a throw a right hand so it's not think so if you judging this if we were on Strictly can imagine us that beautiful in you and on Strictly it's about it's about side at a same sex couple dancing I'm putting one foot in you and I out next time who gives a monkey's why I'm tellin ya if we're on Strictly and we had to be judged here and you're judging now what are we giving out 10 to to. See why you're doing it so you go back to the to untangle again Oh you mean I don't mean the rounds my coming I'll probably give it a bit more I'll give it about 4 might make about 4 but I'm saying there was the room there for it to be an eye or a no and we both agree on that in the studio on Channel 5 alongside David Haye was Derek she Zora who for. 2016 and he was asked by Paul Dempsey the presenter about her lifestyle and the one point that there is or made was that he had a fantastic chap and it was the chap that caused the cut in their 2nd round generate forward. Hanging jab Yeah on today I'm going to if you're here open the the wounded it be sustained in training and on that subject State Kerry K.'s did a wonderful job in a corner because that was a savage cop which he had to survive 10 and a half rounds were kicked carried a potion case he got straight up in there it took him a couple of rounds the get it under control once he had it under control he was sitting at ringside of his feet in the face he'd earned his money let's put it that way and on that now we've had a name out from Andy Stevens who says he's new to boxing Stephen would love to hear an interview with a cup man to understand exactly what they do would be great to talk to the late 80 Thomas they Welshman who was in the water with Ken Buchanan in the past and you've got a wonderful story in your book which is being well told but it's worth repeating Well it has been well told Mike and I've heard it several times but I thought it a what are they all get it actually from his mouth so when I was with Ken Buchanan a couple years ago I asked him about this particular occasion it was just one of those casually Cajuns when a young kid from Edinburgh couldn't sell a ticket in his home country sold out Madison Square Garden a guy who was feted by everybody went on the equivalent of chat shows on the back page of Old and New York papers and in the ring he was fine about Laguna of course he'd won the title from a couple of years earlier and he suffered a cut really early in the fire really bad so they suffered a swollen swollen eye really early in a fight that is this I was going to close up he was told by the referee you're in trouble you go around there's always another way around it he looked at each of us the great Welshman in a corner and they managed to pull something out and I wish it was it was a knife or whatever it was a race that doesn't matter what it was they slit the bruising the blood gushed out Mickey in Rocky Of course this was about 5 years before what Mickey did it to Rocky the swelling went down Buchanan box like a breeze and became an even bigger star at the at the garden there was a there was a bad side effect there was about one bad side effect from it they went. Into the change room afterwards and can now on these I stitch get some terrible wounds can tell I mean kids good at telling a story so you get to get back in the changing room and in walks the doctor except Ken says he's a vet he's not a doctor and he's drunk as a lot but I've got to get it sticks or any Thomas in Ken's father holding cane down in a chair whilst this guy with what Kenny described as a big knitting needle he's basically sewing up because I Anyway he did such a bad job a couple weeks like Kenny was in London he bumped into Jarvis a stead a great promoter and part of the great boxing cartel from the seventy's job was to one look at ease I gave him wrote down a name and a doctor at a doctor's number in Harley Street St came straight down to Harley Street where they re cut it reclaimed it and re stitched it so that was Eddie Thomas saving Kenna Buchanan's career with his cup work 3 weeks ago on the podcast we heard from the president of the W.B.C. Silliman he was talking about the issues of drug abuse in boxing about weight management and their plans to increase their supervision of a box as whites in the build up to fight time Robert Smith the general secretary of the British Boxing Board of Control was listening and he's banking to reiterate what the board have been doing in those areas and Robert joins us now thanks for being with us Robert but probably too much. Yeah good about yourself very good and Robert I want to start with the billy joe Sona situation and where boxing is in terms of combating drug abuse the fight against Demetrius Andrade was so strange in that had it been shared to take place in the United Kingdom it would have happened so where are we in this kind of mess. Well lot of meetings. And. Telephone conference with with Valda on on Wednesday interesting meeting could start having come away with it with everything sorted but it's a start the problem we go is that as over sporting bodies in this country we are affiliated to United Kingdom and to Durbin who are affiliated to Wadleigh which is the world on $2.00 an agency and the world recognized agency that governs dull thing in the world the world of sport and the thing in mind you know we're happy with the vodka of the sea a volunteer organization awfully like water they come in do a test and then ultimately we'll just hand over the results and let the let the commission know that the sanctioning body the day with any findings except just as it is very frustrating I'm very difficult to work with and we've got. 2 procedures working along each other and I want to try to make sure that we can all have some common knowledge some common ground and work together in relation to the problem we have with regard to the pillagers so interesting is the term in competition testing out of competition. With with regards to you caterwauling in competition testing is testing on the evening about after the bell and anything else before hand is out of competition Vada have a different they have out the competition as in the training program so it could be 6 weeks it could be 4 weeks. And that was very difficult for them to pin down a period of time and mostly thing is you know the things that you have one list for one proper testing and one list of banned substances for another proper testing and it would surely be eligible for everybody concerned which is that the one list you cut of state will be speaking to 2 water with regard to that and hopefully we can come up with an answer where we're singing from the same song sheet. So on that subject about drug testing and what you do in this country on a professional boxer I'm just turning over what is the situation what level do I have to reach before I come on that day the whereabout system where I have to let you and you can know where I am for one hour a day what stage did that come in because you can't you can't testify isn't boxes they just know the funding they had to do it so so how does it work is certainly when. We deal with all the testing so I don't have any influence over who they go in test but you're generally find people in championship level so British Championships all modes except you're certainly World Championships Commonwealth championships they will pick and choose a fairly the right people to do and I leave it to. The only contact I have with regard to. Addresses Excite is supplying where they come from or where they are living so booking the events for booking start testing for the actual fights itself but ultimately you have to look at the championship level but you're quite right I think the region of $1200.00 boxes it would be impossible to test every single book so. Certainly we are entitled to test every every one if we wish to but it would be physically impossible the other issue that Mary Snow Silliman was talking to us about on the podcast a few weeks ago Rob it was white management and one of the policies that they looking at and they're going to introduce on I temporary basis in January of next year the introduction of whiting a bulk so when he arrives at the arena on fight night what do you think about that and how does that affect what you do already in the build up to a fight. Well we have regulation in place already says that any board official could turn into any gym in the country away and. We keep a log of all the checkpoints he delivers boxes to championship fronts we do a check in fives renounce and then if we're concerned that seem to be a bit heavy we can go into the gym anytime they want to see the whites coming down sensibly and nobody's just cutting white just to clear does the big concern that we have and then 3 days before your final check and yours you should be within 3 percent of the temperature was inside so we got quite a comprehensive system many years ago before we broke our and I did a study when I was just really just start with a boat where we did the writings on the die and then on the saucer on the on the day of the official was in for the day before and then on the evening of the bat we did another Whiting we lump them and generally found that people generally were put in on 7 to 8 pounds 10 pounds on the old occasion people really blew up but it was a quite a small percentage so we got a bit of a background on on the history of what we've been doing and we have a lease and all the boxes in championships have a log of what they want during the course of the career leading up to it but we do hope that we do send a lot of information when books turned professional that I didn't a handbook with all the information in the dehydration and chicken white chicks such are. Course that Korea they will receive other documentation and we hold seminars as well and every year to 18 months and the sort of things to discuss we have something with you know you know if you can demand to come in and talk about the test in rehab something with the charity Mind recently we go to mental health and then we will talk about things you know what it was in relation to the tourist . Of the sea the thing with. So I think we do a great deal you cannot you know I can only lead a horse to water is up to them ultimately that we again we can't they can't be policemen in the gyms all the time that would be impossible so you know the train is where we do a choice of seconds courses but I turn on a year 10 this year. Only if things are discussed the Chinas and manages it have the full responsibility as well and if they're concerned about it they should let us not. Rob that's great insight thanks for your time and see you soon. But well after fight night it was more than 3 months before Scott West gas funeral took place that was because of the nature of the inquest into his death and Dec Spelman eventually resumed his career after a 4 month break and I went to see deck last week at the home of his trainer Carl graves the graves gaffe as it says outside the door Jack is preparing for the ultimate boxing event which is at the 2 in London on Friday of this week and he told me how the haunting events of that night February 24th in Doncaster are never far from his mind and a fight that he accepts he lost it will expose were you know it depends on where you was in the fire I know people on the side saw a bit differently for me out a bit wider some of my support said I had it back quite a bit boy me being in the 5 Personally I've always very tight 5 especially with the not downs and I probably didn't help myself to be honest in the early rounds you know arguably this is in the win us good ring side for the interviewees any inkling for you as to what might be about to happen. No I mean by the end of the 10th when the bell when they were very very unsteady on his feet for what it is combat from a not down and a very attentive front and I just put it down to exhaustion we were still talking in a vision on the law and the decision got made in and got res and he was still very unsteady but then when we come down to the side of the apron to do the interview and a half it was fine and we got to need a bit of an on to go bust or put that down to exhaustion you know just how high the 10 rounds. Are No I mean the alarm bells ringing in my head to sort until we went back to the change of mood so when did you 1st then become aware of the situation. It was the day after her called a few missed phone calls and it was there was no where the alarm bells ring at the time so to get told that in the morning that it was the chance of him leaving won't was not good at all was a big shock to me I mean the 1st thing the 1st thing I did was kind of because I'm not really a big amount of him but every film was my social media just everything was just flooded with that cell as much as I wanted to just get my own berries or get my head around it I at supports were out to kind of acknowledge the new app on just what the airport you know I didn't I honestly didn't know what supports the scan of port the only one new interest you know I was praying for him at the time and and just that I pored through what I didn't really know what to do to be honest did you feel the need to reach out to Scott's family Glenn Close or to message me at a time as Karl was and it was going it was in the village with the police trainer Yes Australia and then I think I got a message off Adam after law had a nice Scottsboro and scope of the and I mean what what do you say I didn't know what they probably don't know what's said to me as well you know I mean I've been growing me ever since to be honest but I think it was 2 weeks after when the just out of a bit Adam said are different we should be OP and it kind of go through things for me more to get to know Scott as a person instead of an opponent as a boxer and for them to get to know me as well suppose and how did you in that time come to terms with with what had happened I've spoken to a number of boxes in the past making documentaries for the B.B.C. About those who've had to come to terms with your situation the likes of Barry Macwhich and mentor Richie went and all there with very different ways how did you come to terms with the fact that a man you chaired the ring with lost his life. Yeah I suppose I take each day step by step now trying to turn it anywhere can into a positive I won't name on the charts of those initials on Matisse it's probably where in this weekend and I'm just to just. Pull his name out there because of the way I'm looking at is you know he be me for a square so when should I go on to do now he was potentially able to do as well so you know if and only That's the only way I can I can kind of sound good light on that. I've heard different approaches as well from the boxes I'm talking about concerning. The attendance at the funeral Dale Evans for example went to Mike tells you no but Richie went and said that he couldn't go to Bradley Stone's few no did you go to Scott's for you know yes me and develop a very very out day and you know it's a long time before the funeral came as well and we felt the respectful thing was to not be in the gym up until the hour so we wait for the funeral it was half I'm able you know I could I'd just get thinking you know about his family and and what they're going through so there the funeral and then they had formed a couple of weeks after law and I did that as well mom a lot boy my girlfriend next time now what was your attitude because again talking about one of those that are spente rich he went and in his 1st fight after the tragic one against Bradley Stone actually turned away after 5 rounds against Neil swines What was your attitude going in when you thought he drinks Katie ski from the Czech Republic. It was just about getting back in the ring and see what feel and there's a part about that night was the night is self and during the rain walk into me honest soon as I got further up I felt like you know like I should off and if there's any doubt in my mind leave not you know I want to don't and I've got think the most safety before if an hour so yeah I felt God felt bullied in order to ensure a need and it was a bit of a low key fight and that if I'm on it was that deliberate. Yeah to be honest looking back on it I'm glad it was because I didn't I didn't want to big thing made of its biggest and this other way now when I'm in a bad position now because if it had been such a big thing on a big massive stage you know it can crumble you know and I'm glad it didn't and next are you taking part in the 2nd version of out I'm a boxer looking at the record you would have an outstanding chance he sings Yeah yeah but you know it especially to formalize this records are not really going to commit supply is always a comply now in the best situation there are physical shape. A probability so I feel really good and I'm going to go for it and will be all be alert it struck me as well listening to your interviews at ringside immediately afterwards virtually the last words that left his mouth were we just wanted to put on a show and entertain the crowd it just goes to show that sometimes in trying to entertain someone pay the ultimate price and that's just about it for this week we've read out some emails earlier on keep them coming Costello on balance of B.B.C. Doco dot U.K. And the itunes reviews as well finishing this week with a tweet from Curtis would ause on the night that Scott West Garth and that Spelman met in their tragic contest in Doncaster Woodhouse was shared jewel to be on top of the bill that night but he tweeted later on sometimes with all the hype around boxing you forget how dangerous the sport is and that's why we have such respect and admiration for the men who make ringside so compelling so daunting and even haunting That's it from 5 boxing with Costello months. Was. On digital B.B.C. Sound Smart St John W. This is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live the B.B.C. News headlines only 5 live. A British funeral will be held for less to cities. In Thailand later he died with 4 other people when his helicopter crashed outside the club Stadium last weekend. 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It was an easy decision to make and and like I said it wasn't just a couple of players in that we need to play we need to play it was the unanimous decision every single player and stuff when we come out and said we need to play this game we want to play the US exactly what happened from Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner has been sentenced to 50 days in jail in Denmark for assaulting a taxi driver he's appealed and was released until a hearing at a higher court Aston Villa made it back to back home wins and about injured Dean Smith with a 2 nil victory against Bolton at Villa Park in the Championship Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic will face each other in the last 4 of the Paris Masters after their quarter final wins last night Federer defeated came in she Corey in straight sets and joke of each $12.00 sets to one against Maher in Chile which Chris Ashton is set to make his 1st England appearance for 4 years after being called up to the bench for today's opening autumn international get South Africa he replaces Manu to a language he has been forced to pull out with a small strain his England scrum coach Neil Hathaway is bringing that actually you know you made you made a big called comeback from 2 lawn where life was very comfortable for him made a huge court comeback off the discussion with 80 so it's gone on record really he wants to be involved for the World Cup even brilliant training worked really hard so fantastic opportunity for coming back in Justin Rose starts his 3rd round at the Turkish open later this morning with a 2 shot lead on 12 on the par so what will it take for Rose to successfully defend his title is the mentality you need to play well here obviously I played catch up here last year and other guys are capable of doing that this year I think you know as I've got to 65 as you can always have somebody from the chasing pack to the same thing so for me it's about keeping moving forward this week you know even past not really going to get it done so you kind of you have to have the mentality of keep moving forward on day one of the 35th Breeder's Cup fixture at Churchill Downs racecourse in Kentucky line of juicy written by Jackie William Buick survived a lengthy stewards inquiry to win the juvenile turf race the 2 year old colt. Straight at Newmarket by Charlie Appleby the Shaikh Mohammed could dolphin operation and the Roberson takes on Jack was asking this morning for a place in the final of Snoop his international championship in China and that's the latest from B.B.C. Sport. I. Am. Sure. His newest podcast. Nothing like it before the classic American story of a religious cult gone wrong exclusively. In half an hour it's Christmas Britain and Oldroyd But before that Robbie Savage looks back on a difficult week for football and head to this weekend is recorded yesterday simply don't call or text the scene I. Think is great this. Morning there is a bit of a different start to the show today alongside me christen a Matthew Saeed magic love Joe Thomas and I My mother will be joining us later on but before we look at this weekend I wanted to look back it was been a terrible week for football I was devastated when I heard the terrible news that their owner V.H.I. Seawater not propose to members of his stuff the pilot and a passenger were all killed in the helicopter crash all our thoughts go out to their families and friends obviously have a huge attachments unless the city a play for the club for 5 years and they gave me a chance to play in the Premier League we all follow that remarkable season 2 years ago when they beat 5000 to one odds to win the Premier League I'm firstly Christian Matthew was been an amazing thing to see is out the whole football community has come together after this tragedy absolutely robbed him of. I think that. The city of Leicester rear of obviously being in shock this week and you know they are still grieving and as as an hour and this is from the outside looking in similarities to him and the owner of Blanco and Jack Walker was when I was in the fight that he had a relationship with the players with the community and he brought so much to Leicester City and I mean as been a you know a really shocking week and I think called you know his word just a word he spoke extremely well the result of the week and is insignificant and in our last as a club in the papers Lester will need a lot of time to get over this as Krisna to their mouth you know what I did for Les is that is a club also the impact they made with the fans and in the community was just incredible this interest in morning Chris I mean I'm a for me football is a fascinating sport the rivalries are fierce it's a sport characterized by partisanship that underlying it all the really the truth about football and this is. An incredibly difficult week is football is also a community it's a community is a sport and it's not just left the City fans and people who follow the club who have been devastated by what happened but there's been incredible messages of support from other clubs but also that link between the club and its own city I mean that's how football started in its early meaning of football was a little community institution linked to a football club with the people who lived in it's the center city and I think that has come across really powerfully to it's been a very very difficult week the result was insignificant but for me that's the one fill the lining it's really shown the strength of solidarity and Chris. I owe watches and I was here trying to carry on his father's big visions and dreams for the club so for me legacy put in place will carry on. Yeah. You know I think. Lester you know the only time to build again and you know hopefully the continuity will continue Leicester City and they can move forward as a club and that the result will be insignificant at the weekend because you know less a say they'll be travelling to Wales to play Cardiff and in the words of their manager club pro-Al on of the man who did so much for them I just want to say once again our thoughts are with the family and friends this weekend and everyone Alessa city many of many of you will also know they have to my BT Stevie show Glenn Hoddle was taken seriously ill he is currently in hospital receiving treatment and has been responding well I know Glen very well want to send them and his family all our best wishes and we're all keeping our fingers crossed that a mix of full recovery I just wanted to acknowledge the amazing way the whole BT Sport scene responded especially our sound supervisor who gave Glen sepia use a defibrillator and probably saved his life. Chris you know you know Glenn Well such a popular figure in the world of football just showed how many get well messages he received the love he had of a football community coming together yeah absolutely you know Glenn was a fantastic player my share a falling out with him out of the England stuff which I was you know pretty ashamed of myself but subsequently you know on the job stop flying over to an Oakland pretty well and they say he's a lovely lovely man. A gentle man a man you know I have a lot of respect for and when it was you know shocking really shocking what happened. Last week and it's good and is a recovering and you know these things will obviously take time but it was a you know it. Had Saturday last Saturday and I suppose you know the fight they claim is on the mend you know fantastic news and you know the Sunni gets back to to help to better our Massy you you run a column about Glenn you know glowing tribute to him as a footballer you watched of Glenn lost and was glad as a player and water player he was all the water an incredible player I think he's one of the few shrewd creative geniuses from English school in my lifetime for me the best player he's ever lived one thing that struck me Robbie is that he was so creative and he had such an intricate imagination slide rule passes the interplay his touch on the ball I think a lot of people him in list which at the time was all about a muscular conception of football supposed to tackle hard and get muddy and dash around age people quite suspicious of him and I felt that Bobby Robson shipbuilding England around him I think it's a shame that he didn't but at a human being I had a. It was a charity event a table tennis charity event. And I asked if he would come along he came with his wife he spent the whole evening talking to the kids and a few days later the handwritten letter saying how much he enjoyed it and offering to do anything he could in the future interactions I had with a model as a curse and as a human being there are very few better than me I'm sure you Chris Matthew and the whole football a nation will. Say Get well soon Glenn the time is 8 30 am listen to Robbie Savage is Premier League breath 1st now let's talk about the Premier League and let's start with Spurs. Oh I was I was what's the game here like Chris the defeat to Manchester City and a scene you go last check on social media to say in the same hour a goodly their page was like I'm not only. Listen I'm a wreck some fun their paycheck is like a cap and so for beds like a camper this camp rates are so disrespectful CHRISTOPHER Well listen to you and Matthew coming on the bandwagon it was a lot of what I was trying to. Preach well in good order did I get my words corrected probably not I've realized I appended 100 of friends and staff over the country but if he's Wembley you expect a better page I apologize if I've offended that. People but why does everybody get so offended I think the majority of people knew my point probably even yes. But only pages as well yeah and critique let me just post on a career and Robbie watching that going the other might almost struck by the fact that you know in a hotel stay pitches were muddy they were pockmarked it must have been so difficult to execute really intricate skills if you didn't know how the ball was going to bounce and how significant is it psychologically wrong a pitch and the ball isn't behaving in the way that you've come to expect on every other pitch you played well for me that doesn't matter what the pitches like and all the ball was always probably. The same for you Chris. I did what I tell you it was impressive on on Monday night was a lot of ways and Matthew touch on why both teams still got the ball you know and I tried to apply in the correct manner you know so rather than in my dogs in the backyard but no that was. You know that was really impressive from both post such a thing. I could hear there was no cold. I'll go. 7 Rob 7. Schools for girls facing little dog like you. So. See how I read that was fearless guy revels comments and spinelessness last year in the past 30 years about Spurs you know what did you make of those comments well you know I think Nevels a great very little excerpt on top of that I agree it is good enough to give it a passionate and he made some really cogent polling on this particular occasion I thought but to characterize a football club over 30 is 3 decades something different managers with different players and to just make that kind of a crude generalization that they were spinelessness off I thought that was disrespectful and I also think that often football teams might lose because they weren't good enough to say spinelessness off it's almost as if there was a bull fight but there was a fight in character and I think that's what got Harry Redknapp absolutely furious and I think Harry had a perfect right to shoot back I thought he did so intelligent and on this particular occasion I think Harry Redknapp is probably in the right CHRIS Yeah. Look I think you know Matthew put it pretty well Gary Neville is you know absolutely entitled to his. Own opinion and you know he I think he was talking from the fact they was a man you know as a Manchester United player but to actually call. You know the players are spineless . Soft and pathetic and when you look at some of the names place the top them over that period you know some great great players I was you know strong stuff below the belt and Harry Redknapp was spot on I think in terms of what he came back with I mean this is a spot saying we still have had relative success over that period you know were they as good as Gary Neville manchester united clear. Really not but you know it works well. And I assume he would never do Chris Colson the softer spineless. Moving on moving on so you. Know let's talk about Bournemouth and Matthew what's a job Eddie how he's doing on the south coast. I know young manager moved into management even the under He's been there a long time has been a manager now for almost a decade and if you look at the serial success of these had on a very tight budget I think his name should be mentioned far more widely when they're all the fake talk clubs to think that's the case yeah I was on the same coaching courses as me he's quite quite a quiet guy but yeah you don't have to be a shark or to be a great leader mass is amazing to say the Christian on the same coaching course is that he how he's gambling with the top 5 clubs and Chris lost his job to Lincoln City. Unified jump keeping Lincoln up in the 1st place just of a post something in May Yeah yeah very quickly just want to say Eddie how Chris made a really interesting point that he's quite quietly spoken he mentioned ourselves as well he's also quite quietly spoken you know I think in the history of football often managers of thought that in order to exert their wealth or to palm attain they have to shout they have to pull they have to be very punitive if somebody doesn't do something particularly well on the pitch and of course sometimes you need to raise your voice you know this and you say well do you think with this generation of footballers millennial So I think they respond very badly to that kind of all for a tear in this and I think every hand carousels guy. Quiet more cerebral approach I think that's resonating very powerfully in the interviews I've done with young focus and I think it's a better model for the game going forward we can as Nigel Cliff is join us after Joe Thomas a news with the social media around Amman and Joe very smooth link they're running very smoothly end of this and I feel very good am I OK. With your health yes and S.S. Start with office poll of the week then because it was a week in which we saw the 1st major managerial casualty of course you don't want to take the gang saw sacked not so sacked by Rahm address. After just 10 league games in charge they got us thinking he was going to be the 1st managerial casualty in the Premier League now the full favorites Mark Hughes and I Robot You can of it Warnock and vacuum what about you guys who do you think is going to be out of those for a while I don't like you as you know Joe I never speculate man if you get the sack because I've never been one I don't like to see you say in any way right now that demagogues. Is going to get knocked. Well I mean I think you kind of it's mostly I just feel well. I know you spent a little bit in. It is it is it outside. Well Marino is a favor he's actually 5th favorite but the public let me tell you agreed with Chris there when you kind of age 44 percent Mark Hughes came in 2nd 34 percent Warnock 12 percent I don't know just 10 percent yeah so pretty tight stuff let's also touch on the sad news that you guys mentioned at the top of the show of course but like Matthew said It really did bring the footballing world together in fact one brilliant clip I saw went viral of Leicester City fans stood outside the stadium singing champions of England you made us sing that brilliant video over 3000000 views across platform a great tribute to a great man and let's move on to our 2nd poll now the Arsenal Liverpool game this weekend the biggest fixture of the weekend by distance and we ask the people at home what's the best individual performance you've ever seen in an Arsenal versus Liverpool game he would you guys go for. Gold. In Fall goals and failed. Yeah Chris I would go. You could actually come back to us you can actually come back probably would bomb probably would rob the one. Well they are Charlotte and field money was it $26.00 now if there was a school for Unbelievable unbelievable the courage the credible Yeah well you're right to take on the public vote 54 percent Robbie Fowler of course in 94 all the time 17 percent Michael Owen Cup final 16 percent and Thomas and he told us in 1009 just 13 percent Robyn this could be a fantasy to then get away I've brought Paul Paul but in have you asked why after that I went and kept on him I fear I was the game and so I'm going for Russian style a 5 year contract and he in Southampton Joe and Joe thanks mate great stuff cheers usual see an X. Ray gun next guest is just sponsible for saving my Darby County Korea. Thank you part should slow down I said oh I just you know you really it's a good morning to my old manager Mr Nigel Clough if. You go morning wrote me he did need saving as well. And certainly we're joined by Matthew side in Chris Sutton got her good morning good morning knowledge I must have been a pleasure to work with such a talented. People as Robbie Michael an absolute pleasure honestly when we were actually a bit better we thought you was. Really close quarter. You shouldn't do it. You know what people say an outsider to me and I reckon you shouldn't huge. Go back and look became. Very important were very well thank you so in this one we are weak for you it's me being your old side not enough for us and getting burned to the choir finals for the 1st time ever the of the leak of amazing performance. Yeah yeah we've been playing well in the league but I think people look at our league position. And think well you know we're not too cold which was a time. We actually didn't play quite as well as we have done in previous games. And I was just our will to win came through on that on Tuesday night 1st time we've ever been in the last 16 so to go one step further than the last. Really and we got a great draw as well I guess. He was talking about you just before you joined is about the more the manager you know as a right to be more verbal with the young players your the all the plays you know in my time with you you know I thought you might never sit with the younger players you you know with the older players like myself you know your team would respect you know it as a modern day manage how is it difficult to gauge address and you shall have a goal or how do you do it. You don't treat generally everybody the same but then you're individually anyway different thing that's getting the balance and certainly you know these days are a little bit more fragile than it used to be a few years ago. And I think even to a certain degree of the size of that as well so you just got to gauge you know you can chatter you can well treated them all as a group all the same one year olds have a pool they go to the Amazon site so how impressive you've been with club I think that's still out the season with the signing that say we were going to challenge the title this is being too many years now and I think there are more than capable of doing that they've got a smallish squad sorry to keep everybody but I think the way that the play is the majority of teams. It's going to be an interesting race and I think the Saturday's going to be a good indicator. Of a pope kind of maybe you know man to tackle title challenge or certainly for the top 4 come later for sustain it so it's going to be interesting to know I am. He's going to ask the Lord to take it all from the ledge in a football club as a way sell it in so well so quick is the difficult thing to do is a new manager it is but I think I think the foundation here are some bankers late last you know last 20 odd years makes it easier for I think it would interrupt a change too many things in terms of the standards being certain things like that so I always come in just for your own stamp on it. As well as as well as bring it they were ready for a change. And the benefited from it now this season might be a bit too early for them to challenge graphs or anything next season continue in this form. Nigel might see here I've worked with Robbie morning to talk us the last couple of years a lot of talk you just keep brief questions on what was it like to manage him and secondly this is a completely independent question the toughest person you've had to manage it what did you have to do to really get them to excel. You know we want to go you think. Until you drop me on the bus and remember where we. Started So wherever. We like them or not today I got a big game I'm excited. And I don't remember much from a Saturday and he actually said I couldn't quite like that but if I choose to as well. In terms of stuff that got me that car car they're all challengers are. The best out of them you know. Just about the hardest part of your I guess it's a good job you know you did because gas is on next it's my mother one in my. Life Time for Robbie Savage to see this prediction. Good morning among the money grab that. Nigel and Chris a massive Good morning I don't. Know how good was Nigel to me oh he was wonderful but you very much like it that I love to see that. Only one thing you know obviously but you sort of extremely well. You know look reach out but you could are talking to swim. You never really lost it it was already lost it was horrible the preseason we used to push the brick along the bottom of the swimming pool and. The session would go on for an extra hour because I was a captain I had to finish and everybody had to wait for me it was it was so awful so thank you for that but I thought. Let's start with the game so mother against Manchester United. Will be nothing much between auld in the team. Am go in for the bone must win a 2 hour Chris while 2 to Matthew 213 United. 221 yard to decide mom asked against Liverpool. Last nickel to tingles against them a little pulling up for her so I'm not I'm going to go for the little people when 21 Chris. Thinks trying to avoid I'm return are sober I think Liverpool were going to be too good 13 to go over their arsenal 3 were gaffer on one lawn and mother final game for you to look at is the big one the 2 probably be our last month so they Huddersfield again full of. Oh well a disputed one he scored for political he scored I mean over the company so I'm going to do what I want to round gaffer so you can see you as he gets a role. You know no more than everybody else. Will be on match in a day Roxas a Monday night I don't. Think you very well I'm not. Going to go to you. Do you want to spill something about your weight I'm going to go. Listen if you go this weekend. We've got Walsall right. Yeah yeah yeah. Which I don't think I'll be doing much training because I think I don't think 5 o'clock came out at the moment. So but yeah I mean it's all for well isn't all the best and thanks for joining us good luck to Gonzo crawls into my head and Stephen by lots of cosmic 300 thanks very much pleasure. Pleasure So Chris what's game you do this weekend I am doing I want I'm doing many games this weekend I'm doing so I also think that on Sunday Kilmarnock everything then harvest field full of oh so how does feel full of them on the night well I have a good now I must do what I do this weekend. It's my birthplace that there is it was thought I thought about it for the Happy Birthday. To somebody for the polka dots with a look at Pulitzer yet of yes the Flintoff some of the ping pong guys back on the Sunday Well listen guys thank you so much for join a happy birthday Matthew Chris I'll see you tomorrow mess right now I'll see you try to manage your cowboys from that. Point thank you tonight a joke love to you Chris Matthews. And of cause my mother was in Nigel's words knows more than any of the any other person on the show if you missed any Today Show you can download the podcast show me from B.B.C. Sound on all the usual podcast places please re an interview the show if you can have a great weekend and enjoy the football. On Digital Radio 1995 and each one will be dealing with B.B.C. Radio still. 6 o'clock am clear McAllister Good morning the B.B.C. 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