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Have been some of the most challenging and deflating of her life this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Said. Look at the weather rain and strong winds moving eastwards overnight East and Scotland the northeast end and will stay mostly dry into Wednesday rain in the north and east will continue to move eastwards through the day with many places brightening up later elsewhere sunny spells but it will be one to 2 showers in the West. Palm. Beach. Anyone else. This week. Vs. The u.k. On digital and online I'm Roger Sharpe We're up all night on the Us East Coast it's on usually warm good for the baseball playoffs which are in full swing on Tuesday afternoon in New York the Yankees were shut out for zip by the Houston Astros lead their series by 2 games to one at Nationals Park in Washington where some people could do the doors of good news as cardinals are so far failed to score against the Washington Nationals. 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News we're very pleased to be able to join Mark Riley No New York City hello Mark Ron how are you so I'm going to talk with you again hi very nice to talk to you too and I must say I talk about baseball tonight I know that the Yankees are doing so so against the Houston Astros but they're saw it definitely got a chance to win the series it's good baseball weather isn't it I mean sometimes baseball games and Tobruk can be a bit chilly. Yeah even worse than a bit chilly been precipitation and winds and that sort of thing but no it was a beautiful night here the worry is tomorrow because they're playing a game tomorrow and there are forecast saying there's like an 8090 percent chance of rain which if they end up postponing the game means they will play 4 games in a row Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday which would be taxing certainly for both teams. And that of course involves a bit of commuting as well doesn't it because if they if they have a game tomorrow at Yankee Stadium at some point the goat got to go back to Houston yeah if a game is rained out tonight they would play let me see they played what 2 games in oh no they played one game in New York they'd have to play the 2nd game on Thursday and then go back to Houston Yeah well I'm not going to get me a card at least according to what I'm looking at here they paid 2 games. And then there they played to gain ins gave me Yankee Stadium so they got 2 more games Yankee Stadium to go Oh Ok and then they Yeah it's a 232 Yeah. You know home field is a huge thing though isn't a home field advantage is huge Oh yeah yeah the Yankees However even dumped a home field advantage when they won in Houston but now Houston has one in New York and they have a lead of 2 to one so we'll see what happens assuming they can get the game in tomorrow which most people don't seem to be very optimistic about then there would be a game on Thursday which is very interesting I've been trying for. Well there's always a lot to see and do a New York what have you chosen to tell us about it. Well Rob 1st of all there is a show on Broadway called in to proud to big the life and times of the temptations that's in performance at the Imperial theater Steely Dan For those of you who are of a certain age they're playing at the Beacon Theater and on the queen's amazing though that Steely Dan are still playing but I mean they're not the original Like line up are they by any means No no but that's true of an awful lot of groups these days that have been around for as long as Steely Dan's been around they were around since the seventy's and yeah it's a reconstituted Steely Dan in Queens it's the art of Rube Goldberg at the Queen's museum you know because you've got to you can't just focus on Manhattan you know what I'm saying oh yeah oh yeah well especially those go to be somewhere left to go that you can still afford to live in I suppose that's Queens is it it's parts of Queens year but there are also parts of Queens that have been wholly gentrified Long Island City which is close to Manhattan the rents are just as high as Manhattan you know you're talking $3333500.00 for a one bedroom apartment now they're really nice they got something pools they got you know gym the whole 9 but you really do have to pay through the nose or you have to be in a decent job to pay somebody why oh yeah well it's think it's I think it's time for you to introduce our guest. Our guest and it's really a pleasure to have him he's the political director for spectrum News New York one here in New York City he's been a fixture at the news channel since 2003 he's overseen in New York once coverage of state and local politics he writes a daily column for The New York one Web site called The New York one political it's he supervises production of Inside City Hall New York New York One's nightly hour long news cast and opinion program he's also planned coverage of major events at New York one including mayoral debates and presidential conventions in 2012 and this is extraordinary he supervised the station's coverage of Hurricane Sandy from his home in Rockaway Beach Queens and Rockaway Beach was hit really really hard by Hurricane Sandy's a pleasure to welcome Bob hard Bob How you doing a guys Well it's great to hear you talk about Queens before joining you it's terrific being Queens tonight and it's funny you mentioned delayed and I'll be I'll be here and I'm of a certain age so I'll be at that skill again kind of at the peak of. Bad testing now you know I'm right I have to ask Bob this because he is a Queens guy and you know we have both a governor in New York State and the president of the United States who are both Queens guys but Bob do you think most residents of Queens see President Donald Trump as a Queens guy you know I really don't think that I don't I don't think a lot of Queens resident think of into Cuomo as a Queens guy because neither one of them has lived in Queens in quite some time when when the governor's father was governor Mario Cuomo Andrew Cuomo lived up there with him in the governor's mansion in Albany so it's been quite some time and and Donald Trump moved from Queens to Manhattan sort of I wouldn't quite say renounce Queens but probably wouldn't talk about things that much if you asked about it and want to talk about Manhattan and Trump Tower here. Well you know as of i'd if I jump in here Bob as his dad was a Queen's man through and through though that was where he made his fortune was an absolute absolutely that's absolutely right Queens and Brooklyn Fred Trump really rose to a certain level of fame or night notoriety depending how you look at it in New York and Donald took it to the next level buying what was then called the Commodore Hotel right next to Grand Central Station and turned turning it around. And really what he really built on his father's empire which was in Queens in Brooklyn and then that went much much further and have those and I wonder just just out of curiosity can you tell us a little bit about what Rockaway looks like no I always remember taking a trip to Far Rockaway after $911.00 to interview the family about firefighters who had died and boy was it far you know that tax if you like a $100.00 from it. It's funny b. . Rockaway far it's a misnomer in that that most people who don't live here call the entire peninsula Far Rockaway but that's really just one neighborhood would sort of be like saying hey you live in the Upper East Side and one similar is in the West Village so it. About $140000.00 people just like other parts of the city it has the richest of the rich or not the richest of the richest or very wealthy also the poorest of the poor it's like a lot of the city is very segregated for the most part. But it's also a beautiful beautiful beach front community it's a beautiful stretch of about 11 miles along the ocean and so if you are visitors are your listeners came here they would really scratch their heads and couldn't believe that they're actually in New York City because when you think an exit you think of skyscrapers or you think of. Large housing developments and this is a beach community through and through yeah I'm not a member member of the. Netflix sees Mrs Mrs Madrigal What was her name the woman who is nasal Mrs May's old Mrs May's old agent. Played I think she was taken to to Far Rockaway at some point and of a dramatic at the soda of that season and again it was to stay there to meet a kind of Somali contact or something to actually to Broad Channel which is a small island in the middle of Jamaica Bay just past j.f.k. Before you get to Rockaway when you think Rockaways is obscure for. Your listeners Broad Channel is about maybe 4000 people living on the only inhabited island in the back and it's a terrific place and they shot on location so I think people who if they have a sense a really wonderful show and there's some beautiful New York scenes and I Yeah that's wonderful We can't wait for it to come come back anyway. I should I should turn you over to my friend rather than Bogart too for the entire No no it's no problem but but I want to ask you. You know you look at Rockaway Beach in Far Rockaway there were devastated by Hurricane Sandy that was what 7 years ago now was it 2012. Exactly exactly just before the presidential election well you know there were people who argue that you know not everything has been completely rebuilt that there was a large were large amounts of money that were wasted How was Rocco out of the Rockaways look to you a resident now 7 years after Sandy. On balance things are much better here the boardwalk was almost completely devastated by the hurricane and it was rebuilt not with it's concrete now instead of. Wood but it is a much larger and much more more magnificent structure I was against I wanted it to be what they have to tell you they did a terrific job. Some of the most of the homes have been rebuilt that were destroyed but the big controversy was there was a program that was started it was the end of the Bloomberg administration was called build it back and this is going to allow homeowners to build back their you know what they had lost but the problem was that there was a 3rd party brought in which was these contractors and some of them were great but this is you know funded by the government some Weren't there is a fear because of Hurricane Katrina and in the Gulf and devastated New Orleans in 2005 that if people just got cash grants they would run off and buy T.V.'s or get drunk and so there was a real feeling that they had a need to be accountability but instead he created a new government bureaucracy which hadn't existed before with some contractors some of whom are great some of them are lousy and it really it really slowed the build building back process the rebuilding process in Rockaway But on balance if you came here and looked around things are better than they were before any I think if you talk to a lot of New Orleans many would say the same thing there as well. Interesting Bob let me ask you a little bit about New York one how has both the station and New York City politics evolve since you took over as political director what was that all 34 somewhere in there yeah exactly it was 3 the biggest change is. That days where everyone gets has a car not everyone a lot of people who have a cord that comes into the house that's going to bring them all the television stations that it is is definitely slowing and changing people who have the money are now are now sort of Dana cancel culture when it comes to cable so are our mission is really to try to figure out how to reach them other ways in digital ways on their fall means it's very it's really evolving in that respect and other ways things haven't changed at all you know New Yorkers of politics it's still hyper local and our political division which I run is now the largest metro political unit in the region because of so many cutbacks at the print papers the Daily News is not nearly what it used to be the post is smaller the New York Times is a more national interest than before so we we really are in some ways bigger than we were when when I joined the station 15 years ago. And it's really and our influence as as grown even as people's interest. It's a challenge with with wife I and the Internet and different ways that people are getting information now. Technically Bob one of the things I remember about New York one was you were one of the 1st stations to send reporters out really to do the whole job it is not right they did their own vision on side and on this it they covered the story. Yeah that's exactly right and it's interesting a lot of stations are now beginning to follow us to one man band which seems very kind of tough you know that to have some a glass with a camera and shoot everything well it's sort of changed as these cameras got a lighter more 1st a tile and we do obviously the governor has a press conference or some major that we're sending we're not just a reporter out by him or herself you'll still have a truck to transmit where he'll have a camera shooting with you but if you were to do an interview with someone say for a feature or for a piece of kit and need to break right away when you will be sent out on your own that that is becoming more normal now. With other stations like I said it's a lot less challenging because I used to be a 40 pound camera is now something that's very very light. Well I know you've got a couple of stories Mark that you'd like us to to chat about before right before we let Bob go it's been so fast so far yeah it has been but I did want to ask Bob this question because it seems as though and I wouldn't say New York one is really part of that because they you know they're in a in a position now where you have the mayor on what is weekly with their I guess everyone every Monday he's on our show yeah so this probably doesn't pertain to you but there are people who look at the New York City press corps and they say that there's almost a visceral dislike of dismay or true or false. I think that he created sort of an antagonistic relationship though the Blasio the mayor very early on me took office it was always puzzling to me because I think the clue Truly a lot of the reporters are very similar to the mayor in the sense that they the mayor was from Park Slope which is a little area of Brooklyn some of these reporters of them Park Slope he was a breath of fresh air to the technocrat. Michael Bloomberg who had really sort of a state is welcomed by his 3rd term and I think there was just a lot of hostility coming from City Hall initially toward the media when it could have been a honeymoon period and I think in some ways the mayor never recovered from that 1st rocky patch you know I was always surprised by that because I think he could have had like a Brock Obama had with the national press corps the wall you know very I would say a very warm relationship I thought that the applause you could have done something like that too and it just didn't work out so I think there is still the that that he never overcame you know we're skeptical like we are with anyone who's mayor but I don't I don't think it's the same sort of visceral relationship that some other the media outlets have had with the mayor Well you know when he was running for president and didn't do well at all it seemed like the New York press corps kind of sort of reveled in the fact that he really never got any traction in his presidential run. Yeah and I don't think all that was was fair to him to be honest I do think I mean you're looking at the debate tonight and you know you're looking at Mayor Pete good it Gedge the mayor represents fewer people than a city council member any aircraft. Was you have has a real has a real resume you can say you don't like it or you love it but he is the mayor of the largest state he has real accomplishments he can point to. Yes he entered the race he didn't plan it the entry was all I was sort of in the back of the edge of that I'm aware of but the way that he wasn't taken seriously at all I don't think was entirely fair I think once the mayor of say Los Angeles or Chicago or New York enters the presidential race they deserve to be taken seriously they don't deserve a single vote but they deserve you know on the resume I'm saying but I thought it was not entirely fair given given the fact that he is the mayor of the city is larger than population wise the sort of states in the United States. Well consider this You Tube before the half hour strikes you know what Wouldn't a visit to New York for a visit from the u.k. Be with a visit to a New York deli. That could be a problem yeah yeah I mean. Bob you know because everybody who's been in New York for a year or more knows about Barney Greengrass the sturgeon King he's been up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan seems like for time immemorial in fact Barney Greengrass himself died in 1986 I think his son took it over and now I think his grandson runs it and the problem with this 111 year old New York institution is that they were closed by the Health Department Bob what is going on here. Well I mean this is the other thing I mean I was hearing stories or reports of rats and everything else and when you're talking about some of the fish that serve that is so wonderful as raw you want things to be clean like a hospital sanitary clean and so this could be very very damaging for this but you know he's known as the sturgeon King and it's sort of a legit legend here in the city. It's always easy to bounce back is one thing if your favorite bar is closed because you know you're getting a whiskey you don't have to worry about it too much is probably sealed in the pot of we're talking about raw fish it can make people spin a little bit. Yeah in more ways than one and they say they're going to reopen but there may not be a timetable as to when a yeah that's my understand standing as well and you know you have to have another visit from the health department they had to give you a letter grade I would say to any. You know people coming in from the u.k. Katha Scally down downtown of the Lower East Side It is really it is a great alternative on a green grass they don't have to sturgeon they don't have that the fish be there to replace a great place called rust and daughters and you can get your fish there if you want a very good deli it really catches so we saw that many other places the bias is a legend right well as a new you know you know your jaw exercises before you go anywhere near them because how else do you actually get your my thought on that sign which. Cats is Lucinda salami to your boy in the army that used to be they're saying back during World War 2 actually so they've been cast as been around for a long time also. Well we could we could talk for a lot longer I must say Bob it's been great to have you with us tonight you know more power to rob. Thanks very much and I'm going to go back to watching our presidential debate here we have 12 people it's a it's a crowded mess. Thanks a 1000000 some right thank you very much Paul. Take care Cheers guys thank you. All right we shall leave you Mark for a couple of minutes and then we're back with another guest It's half past 2 on digital b.b.c. So it's not speakers but this is b.b.c. Radio 5 live here with b.b.c. News Nicorette Donald Trump says the wife of an American diplomat involved in a fatal crash with the Northamptonshire teenager won't be returning to the u.k. Her returns parents have met the president at the White House but refused to see answer coolness who was there to government has described late night breaks it talks with e.u. Officials as constructive they'll resume in the morning with the aim of agreeing a legal text before a summit in Brussels tomorrow the president at one of Turkey insists his military offensive against Kurdish forces in northern Syria will continue that's despite sanctions imposed by Washington and a u.s. Call for a cease fire and a report has concluded that former mining communities are still at a social and economic disadvantage compared to other parts of the u.k. If found life expectancy was below average and significant numbers of people are unemployed times this war now Katie Smith the p.f.a. a Close he's also if you know us as you may to have the perfect opportunity to take strong measures against racism in football after England chose to stay on the pitch you have to have open disciplinary proceedings against Bulgaria following the racist abuse and towards England's players in the year a 2020 qualifier I'm glad they stepped ashore so real to me also essential which is what across the courts is also a sanction and I mean this should be really it's always he's not the players are evil it's good to see the manager but look at the time it was on the thinking will well go up because you've given as much as possibly can as far as possible now the ball is a much slower on your way she scored well in the midfielder Jordan Henderson says they wanted to make Bulgarian fans suffer by thrashing the team on the pitch Manchester City women's manager Nick Cushing's as if his players experienced something similar he backed them as they walked off so hope looking after the well . Play isn't we'd support plays in whatever they felt was the appropriate option in the moment our job is is to make sure in the moment of the players welfare is looked after and of the players are Ok there is no place for it in the game and we hope that the rug you know the appropriate sanctions are put in place. Manchester City are at home to athletic in Madrid this evening in the 1st leg of the Champions League last 16 tie elsewhere Republic of Ireland lost to nail to Switzerland in Geneva they can still qualify also 2020 if they beat Denmark in the final qualifying next month. 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Reaction and analysis from the. Extra costs download in subscribers. This is b.b.c. Radio. The b.b.c. . As we play rejoined Mark Riley and New York Hello Mark how I ride I got a very special guest with us he's been a long time friend of mine for God I don't even know how many years now he's got a great beard and. Yeah absolutely He's co-founder of the New Year Rican poets cafe He's also the founder of banana pudding jazz he's a multi a Delco Award winner His name is Mr O'Neill. Yes hello hello ro a pleasure to have you with us. Pleasure to be here I'm glad monk gave me the call he said come on down and talk about you Rome and what you've been doing and what you've been doing with the at the New Year we can pose cafe the world famous new Rican poet café you know about New Year we can know I've got a name I've got a question for you before Mark gets going watch something or he can. It's like new you New York Puerto Rican It was penned it was penned by the founder of the new we can pose cafe Miguel I'll go in back in the late set of seventy's and he he discovered the New Year we can polish cafe or found it in the we can pose cafe on the Lower East Side a wonderful space for celebrates the odds poetry jazz. Theater would do in theater right now please play by Ishmael Reed in time to the haunting of Lennon and well Miranda and I know you've heard that name. Yeah yeah yeah we're always doing things on the edge and this is definitely on the edge because it takes on one of the the Motu $1000000.00 theatrical. Pieces that's out there on Broadway and tells it tells a different story you know with which we're the ones that are coming back would saying hey Hamilton was not an avid listener just he was a destroyer of the indigenous people and we have stories to tell and we have the ghost some people say the ghost but we say the spirits of the ancestors coming back to haunt him for not and clean them in the play him with you know him brought someone with you know I think you learn young Ron shadow as well than Hamiltons by oh yeah definitely he's a count in the play. And he gets it you know don't tell. About the founding of the New York imposed and by the way right I don't know if you've ever heard about poetry slams have you heard about that oh yeah oh yeah Yeah well guess where they started really yes right well you know they don't really study it and Boston I believe but Bob Holden and one of the The early. New Rican poets and one of the board members at that time we do in the eighty's brought the poetry slam to the we can pose cafe and that is where it took really took off to become a worldwide entity and to taining poets and poets poet poetry lovers from all over the world and doing poetry slam competitions all over the all over the country so we started in this little space. Green had had an important on 60 between a and b. And that's on the lower east side of it has got to let people go call you over here and show you all the way over there but some of your cats have been over here I know I've seen some some something is a lot of tourists come into the cafe from from London and they have a great time so started to this little apartment that may go had and it got too big for his apartment because all these POWs and musicians kept coming in and so they went to I was parked that was right next door and it took off to another level and they found a space on 3rd Street on the Lower East Side and that began they brought We brought the building and and the beginnings of an empire of the odds poetry jazz theater you name it we're we've got the films you know so we've been doing that for over 45 years now you know it's been a long time and I remember I was just telling Rome I saw a play by the late in Mary Baracoa at the New York and that I thought was one of the most brilliant works I had ever seen and I know that my friend who's passed away some years now Pedro Pietro Yes page Oh Page Oh Rod Pedro was one of a kind he was one of the most extraordinary people when I worked in radio I wanted to give page. Yes because he was just he was such an iconoclast I mean just an extraordinary talent I 1st saw him as he talked about an apartment McGill I 1st saw a page oh in an apartment on Amsterdam Avenue up around 120 and I think they were having a party and page oh came out and he wrote a you know he cited suicide note from a dead guy. Which was an extraordinary piece but how you started in a small space you got larger. Did you think it was going to be an institution become a New York City institution which it is now no no you just you just go see yourself in the art of at that time I came in with a play that was by me go Pinero that was like in the late eighty's I came in and a play by me go Pinero untitled New Year we can knights and it starts and some great young actors I was one of them who didn't know that I would even be there that this long I came in there as an actor and here I am. Artistic theater director chairman of the board of directors and jazz program going on and and I can't get out of the place I make keeps calling me back because I'm into the arts so yeah I started. That Dyke then for me you know actually we were friends back before that what it was we were Club boys you know a place called the loft right next door to the campaign ended up being right next door yeah 3rd Street before that it was on Prince tree that's right so yeah just when we were having we were into the music and saying you know and well I was then into the music. Off the Russell Ok oh yeah I thought the setlist Yeah yeah came into the club the last that he saw me playing the shaker and he said I want you to play the sake of it or my. New album and moon was go but no it was all over my face Oh yes it all to my face and then he put me on go back you know who played there they did a song called. Ok me again yeah it's just 1st song you know play guitar on that song you know David Byrne Oh wow David Byrne was fresh out of the University of Rhode Island I think you know around School of Art and Design and Arthur and David got to be close yeah and David played on that particular song a lot and I don't know if he remembers it much but Rod Go ahead ask Roman question you know yeah well I was just going to say this is a very much a side sideways question but talk about David Baron. He's getting Not a bit plaudits for this show he's doing up Toda way for way away from from where you are but he's doing this residence isn't he in Manhattan yeah I think heaven. And an amazing stage set and so on. I mean he's somebody who I suppose be quite approachable and would if he has ever had the time that are his roots in New York would you do you regard him to you to regard him as you know somebody who learned just chops and New York. Well you know every everyone learns shops in New York they come to New York to learn their chops they. Hone their skills and their skills and hopefully you know speak to you know the audience this is an extraordinary diverse extraordinarily diverse city and there are a 1000000 different arts and artists here but one thing I have to say about the nigger breaking because you know when you look at Broadway and the cost of going to a Broadway play and you're talking about mortgaging our house just about oh you know oh yeah but new Reagan has remained affordable for the 40 some odd years and I think yes we have we have. We pride ourselves on doing that because you know it wasn't about the. Arson Launce. Of already this is coming in to pay those big prices I mean we would take the money bring it on you know if they have a contribution to give afterwards we would definitely taken because it's definitely needed but you know you know we want to reach the people the people who love the music and can afford it all the time but we want to be a part of the arts you know so theater we are very inexpensive jazz we have Latin jazz there on Tuesdays and some Thursdays and to which you pay for a ticket to come for some some of the greatest Latin jazz artists in the world performing on their little canoe year with Martina's and. Bobby Sinatra used to be there but you know there are these great love Bobby and yeah man great jazz musicians performing at the New Year we compose cafe for pennies you know because you love her but in a put in a because that's segues into your other yeah yeah I had a cat again I'm doing theater at the new movie compose cafe laws home to a good friend of mine from playwright go to play Monk about the loneliest monk. And and he penned me to play the character of the loneliest knocking is going man show so when you do want to play about a character like Felonious Monk iconic figure you have to do your research so I did the research of going up town to clubs like St Nick's problem and it's like I was mittens Playhouse and just finding out my jazz musician ship. You know to become this jazz musician and not just a jazz musician become but that become the loneliest Monk So in my research in going to jazz clubs and hanging out with the great musicians and find out who Monk was and find out who I was as a musician I discovered that I want to bring that energy back to the indie we compose Cafe my home for doing theater at the time and to bring jazz into the house I opened up night Monday night to bring jazz in and that night clicked and one night I brought some I don't know for some reason and made some banana put in. And and people started to eat the banana put and enjoy it. And I've been making it ever sence Oh and there's one for you Monk thank you thank you just handed me a large container of banana pudding Ron I wish I could recall well like opponent I want to see what has been an important look like has it as it like I. Think what's what she was put in as a put you know put in yeah yeah it's got cream cream milk. Away from. Bananas of cause and it tastes delicious as people say they love it I can't you know I got this phobia I can't you know I got out of all the things I have to do I have to make but not to put in for people so it's funny that in the play that we're doing at the New Year we compose cafe and not only for the jazz but with since I've been doing it for the jazz I have incorporated and with the audiences that come to see the play The Haunting of men Well Miranda another place that I do they get compliments you banana put and actually I serve it myself I make it and to them and they get a kick out of that I get a kick out of nowhere else you going to be able to see jazz or see a play and have some Roman eels homemade banana put. Knows the next time you come over. Well I know you have to get through that door to get out of New York he can put a cafe Yeah you know what I always that. Where you know what I like you know just told me it was on the Lower East Side but where as I get there go to the Web site w w w dot new you Wrekin dot org that's in you why oh I see a in dot org Some people who didn't catch that and you would. See a dot org knew you we can dot org And has all the information about what we do here and have been doing that over the years and I'm really pleased to spell that I was thinking was when you when you started there was looking back a real creative famine in New York that was you that was there was the punk clubs it was c b j b s that was that yes La Mamma theater people over there are more than square actually that the mamma is we brought the building that we're in now from the moment that at that time they had owned that building in they so the to us I think it was the bank don't don't don't say you know I'm not selling out there I mean some developer may just be listening you know there at that time you can buy you can never buy for what we go in for you know I suppose that's what I would say I think that really is what happens not you know when everybody is sniffing out any vacant building you know to see what they can do with it and how many condos 2nd they can put in there. When you when you own your own which we do you know they can come they can time they sniff this out as a kind of we're going for the arts and we're going to be there for the us for as long a lot more what happens to a new you know somebody you know like you you know who's a young who just comes along and wants to start a theater and I ask and they do where do they go Brooklyn. I'm only kidding oh. Not even Brooklyn now and I mean I live in Brooklyn it's my home you know and you know you have condos in high rises and it's a different world in Brooklyn so you can go and some people say go to the Bronx Well now you know the Bronx is still still got some political still affordable parts of it. And there is a thriving theater scene up there just sense that you know Rome has been able ride to persevered despite I mean the Lower East Side has been so transformed over the years since you know since Rome started there it's. Really amazing to see that the New York imposed capping co-exists with all the gentrification that's going on and because he owns it because he doesn't know I don't know the board of directors because the cafe is cell phone. They can't resist the people that come with you know bags full of money will barrels full of money or whatever. And say look we like to buy cars I know one place that you when I both used to hang out in the Paradise Garage oh yeah is now a condo in a sewer and they tore down the building on King Street and turned it into a gigantic condominium such a little I don't know who's and ride you know this is something I think it goes on in London also but I don't know who has enough money how many people have the money that they charge to live in these places it's amazing to me how something people can subsidies some you know some in one or 2 wanted to know what do your new neighbors come and see your role do they come and see you you know you know because because you got to advertise and so you'd let people know you put a something out on the front and they walk by because if you walk by the New Year we can pose guy thing. You would know that what was really going on and in those walls you know and when you walk in that door there's a whole other energy that comes over over anyone that comes into that house is a very special spiritual energy about the new you would impose cafe and everyone feels it when they come into the space but you have to come in so the new neighbors they walk by and recently a few of them have been dropping in oh I just got in from London and I'm living 2 doors down in this condo and and I always saw this space and I saw this crowd outside and I thought I would come in tonight and a Wow I'm amazed at what I'm seeing Yeah absolutely and it's to be axin Yeah and it really riot is a point at a point on the Lower East Side in other parts of the city where people are curious people want to see what is going on in these different spaces and the New Year weekend is perfectly positioned to do that and you know there used to be slugs was a little bit 1st and you know well for jazz club Yeah wonderful I met a guy I met Stanley turn 18 in the men's. Slug years and years ago but and slogs was also famous because that's where these Morley Morgan James Lee Morgan girl from girlfriend common law wife she's shot him and killed him in that club and one night actually we did a play about that at the new Rican period I think in 92 and the star Ron Cif is Jones and Dawson is Jones plays and the grandfather William Williams in the hit t.v. Series this is us oh Ok yeah yeah right Stephen Jones started I started at the new we can pose cafe to time Emmy Award winning actor and he played the Morgan and did a fantastic job one and a Delco award for the lead actor I want to duck award for director we won. 7 adult awards that night and I don't always like black theaters most prestigious award ceremony like a Tony like black Tony I like the Grammys like the. You know for us and black there to excellence and we celebrate that no been 18. Down in this area and try and try Becker But you know they played it don't explain by Samuel Hobbs we did it right 2 doors away from the front slug from slugs Yeah and we had to get sawdust on the floor and. It was amazing you know the time for us you know when young actors I would play and you know I was just getting turned into onto jazz at that with the lead Morgan piece also and Ron Jones and I used to go out to jazz clubs and just take in the energy and stuff so jazz has always been a part of my creative life and that was spect. Weeds again that the new you making when we use it is one thing but the spoken word and the words of a great artist like Ishmael read Israel is amazing man yeah absolutely amazing a font of creative America at the Genius Award winning it's you know read and he's again he's written this fantastic Montanas to play the hunting of lead and we'll move around and folks when you come to town you've got 2 weeks if you come in from the coast of. Anglin London and I know some people are coming to come to the new we can pose cafe and see this fantastic play there's a designer who just came in from London very famous designer she came in Wales Gail Wells Yes she did she just came in loves the spoken word and she wrote she designed an outfit with Ishmael Reed on it. Is no place to play the piano for a fashion show that she did in London oh yeah. Wrong you're the perfect person asked this question Has New York City lost that creative edge that it had when we were coming up so many years ago I mean there was an excitement in the street in New York right down to promoting you know new Eureka you people I called you out and others to come join you and you know hand out for hand and hand out flyers to people and it really did have an effect people would come and see these works I think is now out there you know you have the Internet so people were more they're going to the computers and they're finding out where they want to go and why they want to be certain places and the days of giving out flies slowly dwindling down you know you hear you go online and you find out where what's going on in this town you know can you really find out like on the Internet what I mean yeah there are certain things that you can find out on the internet but New York always to me was a place where there were certain things that went on you didn't see or hear or you know have had the opportunity to view and make choices about. Who they were not only answer them I know just as word of mouth yeah the more demanded a 1000000 times I've run into your friend Mark and he would say you've got to get out and see this new piece. That's a that's great yeah yeah I mean and that happens a lot in this and the city you know has the word gets out on on the as a piece of the. Artwork like Danny Simmons when he brings comes to town and he brings his his wonderful artwork and or a play by Ishmael played by Bogart you know directed like 6 a movie block and later plays I don't know you did 66 a bureaucracy plays what was the one I was going to meeting Lily meeting a loony in the rod just was. Can you revive it. I was so funny. Like you said it was a short piece yeah it was concise and in our last in a 55 minutes and we put all that work into this short piece and be on the same clear it was no longer with the she said it was crazy she said but Rocca pins the worst place. There was. I tell you I loved it I haven't had I mean a lot in not a gone for investors all but I thought it was amazing I thought that play was absolutely amazing particularly how much you got into 55 minutes oh yeah here no intermission rod. Well I have a c. For you but it's it will have to be very quickly expressed which is people have you know it's cost them so much money to do everything and I haven't got the time to get involved and volunteer and do theater for little or no reward because somehow they've got me all right and it's a it's that's an impression thought to enhance isn't it but yeah but it still lives it lives in lives like jazz lives and people say that jazz was dying we got some young cats come along and play in some jazz I just had some of the New Year we compose cafe this past month last month and they brought 17 year old kids they. Brought it with the pros are playing some great jazz you know and people who want to do the odds they would do it no matter what you are truly. In there something or come something good to come to them because people like Ron Jones who came in with nothing and now he's making films all over the or all over the country so. It pays off in the long run. This c.c.c. Radio I was wrong Neil the actor and co-founder of the new Rican Poirot's Cafe in New York said they would talking all us to Mark Riley in New York fact so very much time for our News joining us care for his all good morning the main news on 5 life the parents of Terri Dylan meet President at the White House install England Jordan Henderson says they stayed on the pitch to make races fans suffer. This is b.b.c. 5. 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