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Then in times gone by is there anything in it or is it simply a divisive fabrication a convenient shorthand to criticize younger people in a way the older generations have done since time immemorial could be a force result of a 08590969308085909693 and genuinely there are regular news stories where millenniums in school age children to criticize for lacking grit the boarding school teacher Douglas Robb made headlines last month after his blog B. Moaned molly coddled generation with an underlying sense of entitlement it received a pretty frosty reception from some of his former students but does he have a point do you notice a difference in attitudes between the generations or when danger of making sweeping generalisations maybe your sick of hearing people knocking millennial So let us know what you think you can text me on 85058 you can call 808-590-9693 you can reach us at B.B.C. 5 Live on social media and as ever our intrepid generation gap has a saucy Macao and Suki with us good evening to you both Good morning Steve you know good morning. Good morning and so are you are you mollycoddled to try to hear mollycoddled put your hands up please. Don't put your hand down happy. Quickfire responded like yeah OK OK. Smart guys tonight. As always always have a. Certain extent Suki. You never. Do at the moment yeah did did I say I was going to mention that moment of. Hell I had done. Why can't you stand on your own 2 feet I want to. I want to say I can well I can. I'm moving out soon which I'm really excited about but I. Wanted to for ages but it's taken me what like 2 years to save up for like like 2 months worth of rent paying for travel you know like my social life and paying for courses that I want to do in my education so it's all kind of. Kind of relative Yeah there's a violinist trying to get into the. Yeah you're funny I'm trying to. But if you don't if you don't manage when you move I mean your own 2 feet mom and dad will bail you out work. No I mean it's not a question for me about whether I'll sign of my own 2 feet because I think. Humans naturally all survive as they adapt I'm not worried about you know surviving by myself I'm pretty basic cooking sure I can get by. But I already know how to get myself up in the morning and get into my 5 am work shift and walk. And then govern see my Myatt's and then go and do an order Shannon stuff I already know how to do that it's just I'm based at home because I can afford to live in London. It's not a question about whether Also vive on all I know that I will I just haven't been given opportunities to survive. Can you survive. In the way that your parents did for example your your father came to this country as a 10 year old immigrant and without being able to speak a word of English yet had. Pretty much yeah. Then went into an industry that disappeared under his feet and he had to start all over again imagine if that was you put yourself in that situation which you've managed. Yes I think I think whether or not you manage isn't a question that has the other then yes because what are you going to do otherwise you know so just a bit yeah my dad came over from the Irish is my grandma It was one you know I've got strong women in my family so my 9 Left new issues at 26 no money to a name came over and what is a Cleena several jobs as a clean round London and even now she's at 73 as I should go around I used to clean a sickly they had marvelous and the boys always got 3 sons had to leave them behind came over and did that. And I look at my nan and I think wow what an incredible incredible woman she is and I think she passed on that gene to my brothers in my dad and his brothers to do that also so you know where for a lot I was going to be born you know 60 years ago or born now I think I still carry that gene of resilience and carry that sort of attitude of right let's make this work and let's problem solve because it's that's life is that you have to you know is it exactly what it is so yeah we wouldn't be here now if we didn't do that . Like yeah yeah what would you understand. I think it's used by the older generation to. Belittle the younger generation a make them feel guilty about the problems that they're going through or whatever problems that may be I think it comes from a lack of understanding. I think it comes from a lack of empathy. Yeah I don't really I don't really like the way it's never it's never being it's never been for me it's never been used in a positive light in fact I know that it's never been used in a positive light from anyone calling anyone else a special snowflake. Richard iness is with us what do you understand about that word Richard just saying if you so person who makes me laugh the closest generational mission I'm so much you don't. Want to tell a little bit younger than you. The generation you know we had things to map there and say I want to parse and things about you know count all boxing innovation. We create a world you know surely we want to be better for Kate and it's better and their life is a little bit easier than ask was right grandparents were killed inside because you know you live it you know you're mobile because you will see kids to be born into a world you live in the world but it's for someone are meant to be on the side when we were living Riteish as if we were life which keeps me going I really understand what you know what we mean by beam core you can only criticize him for living in the world we might. Get that Richard but they're saying both kids was is saying despite that because every generation tries to make it easier for the next generation so arguably the generation gets softer and saucy and Suki is saying no they're not any softer than their parents do you know you know I mean even despite the fact that there's a BIG be made easier for them and I wonder which one of those 2 positions they can hold and with with any sort of dignity with any sort of definitiveness because at the moment it would seem that they are softer because they haven't gone through the hardships you know so as he mentions her grandmother cleaning left right and center she hasn't mentioned whether she's ever cleaned anyway. Anytime in their entire lives you know I mean if you can just. You know are you leading the world by living you know I had to live in there I'm world you know when people say to America criticize sometimes my wife you know when your kids or whatever interest you but it's not knowing saying 76 is it is 2003 turning nice the world I live in and you know it might be different so I will but I have their own problems you know I'm not a woman I managed to buy a house a 22. And high off before I was 50 because that's what you could do you know and yeah I think even on things for me Jeremy says even Me Me I'm thinking Jamey says Are you finished paying for it by the time you're 50 you both only $47.00 but you know I didn't get an extra more we saw we had signed. The sign. Was left of his life whenever you know but I guess that's the sort of I don't live in London of course. But I live in the world they live in and their struggles will not be the struggles that we had and that they will be able to say their kids can you sing you've got problems in your little house in 2000 and I think. That's how we are even though we make life easier for kids life can get as tough for them as it was for us so really even though the life they lead may be easier they should be resilient enough to deal with the hard knocks is whoa shouldn't. Yeah yeah I think so I think you know they will deal with the knocks that I have only my son is 20 he's just got his 1st job and he left college over a year ago he's been trying to get a job for a year he's coalminer a qualification he's now working as a god not that's going to be his struggle because he's not going to do the things that he's aged like did because it was easier in fact for me because artists go 4 years earlier than he did and I had time thing to build up money and experience will have me in it's really difficult it's difficult for them trying to get work that doesn't you know isn't general as contracts a lot of Title of in this thing with the minimum wage seems to become but going right a number minimum Y.H. Minimum wage should mean that's the lowest you can and not the getting right for Actually everything and that was a struggle that we did not have when we got a job and then actually you know like you got a rise and someone talked or he just gave it to the slip toughing like a club Well we had to put up with a couple of things to see if they would cut Thank you Richard appreciate that we'll find out if other list is free with you because Richard nesses is saying look if the younger generation now use the term snowflake to do Miami's in the Tombs you can kind of be somewhat disparaging me I just I just think it's I just don't think it's. Just a question if you have to take your driving test today by the standards that driving tests what qualify you do you think you would pass. Yeah if that was a poor neighborhood there was no pool I had to consider the question there's a lot older people I know say to me Oh you did really well it's a pause but if I were to take the driving test in this day and age I definitely wouldn't pass and I'm just I'm just curious to think that the way that people pass a driving test. Before it completely changes so that is what I'm like you know my generation we couldn't afford driving lessons on a 4 driving lessons right now I know you can no I can't now but you can because your parents will pay for a thing and hang on where is this idea that my parents just have their like was just a gold mine let me just like I just take money because police informant is I would like to know I can bet that hard to see I mean title to that money don't me secure I know you can get some of that mine is but I don't like the money come to me because my parents have it all apparently. My generation my father didn't even car so there was no sense of why I should have a driver's license your prayers what I think if he gets a drivers license that you can help out the shopping and she can go get a job cleaning as as was his grandma my parents have never paid for my I mean driving laws made of I didn't even give me. The point I was trying to make was was you know answer to your question so we had to rock up OK maybe a few people had one or 2 drives us lessons but nowadays you guys have 100 driving lessons and then take a driving test by then you should pass you know. Yeah I didn't think 100 Lessons No you don't do 100 S. And I mean a lot I mean I do. 2020 lessons if we pass off to 20 let's Yes well that's what I'm saying the criteria for passing is no longer the same criteria that your generation was was was going to say things but you don't have to wear seat belts. There's the judgment that. Well we didn't usually with them and saved their lives seatbelts most of these 808-5963 I don't think that should be the crux you don't let 859 and 963 so we're asking whether this generation the younger generation today for a generation gap phone in this morning if they have the wherewithal that the older generation has has had at their age you know I mean how they do they still have the metal that we had I mean for my father's generation we were equivalent to what we regard them to be now that you know my mom off of my generation were just completely nuts a waste of time waste of space and that we didn't have any real backbone you know. Well we have been caught decrying this next generation in exactly the same terms do we have a point I mean there is a gap isn't there between us and them but it's when the web it's down to just a generational gap where they really are softer than we were so how did you find boys because you know. Boys are always arbiters of whether generations are stronger or weaker and you know there are one kind of. Ways of it is generally. The boys their fathers were you know up to far from us as we could for and I was. Why you why are you taking the measurement of of our generation really on the boys that. Are boys today like I think it's kind of a young man is what I'm trying to say you know what he expects of young men of boys today like young men well given that you're the only boy in the room I can't speak for all of the boys not for the boys I do know I will say I know it's a very fine men who are doing incredible things but just to go back to the point of like my grandma in Guyana they would make sure every boy had a trade so like my granddad the nice 10 OR 100 provinces they one was a baker one was a tailor one was a mechanic did a whatever whatever trade they had and now in this generation I'm finding a lot of my friends to do the same thing and pick up a trace a lot of them a deejay's or a lot of them all have a trade they may have. Already said to D.J. Isn't that a trade Yeah yeah and this and it yeah everyone you can be a social you can be what actually made your inflight. Everyone. A D.J. Or whatever. It is you know you could be 03. 5 even done one of those like. This is what I mean. That's a no no no no the money is that now real real. Is real because. It is a hobby grafting that you know if it's not on job grow. You can be a full time You Tube and now you can make money. You can make money like you get in your ways there's a new job's not to be had Yeah you try and you've been you can go to university and study mean. Yeah yeah here's a course for me but there's no point in complaining you can't afford your own places if you're not prepared to work cleaning people's toilets people have got multiple jobs no I don't that's going to fashion but you have into what multiplied as well this idea that we don't work as hard as the others I don't know where that's come from because I would done absolutely for the I don't know where those come from all the people that I know there are living by themselves. And they have multiple jobs Yeah you know my friends have 2 or more yeah and then they do you other stuff on top of that so I like to fill themselves like you know I don't know where this notion that we're lazy has come from and this headmaster or this master of the school in Norfolk who was talking about some younger people being snowflakes as he was some young people like great and look down their noses at jobs and how many young people do you know doing cleaning jobs keep going back to cleaning because that was a reference point that you know A if. You're your grandma how many younger people DO YOU KNOW WHO doing cleaning jobs you know a lot of people and I think you know and I well I don't want all to one or 2 Yeah so that come come to mind and it's really interesting actually because I do have to say there are some young people I know who are you do fit the description of a snowflake and I'm not trying to diss you know everyone has the great not everyone has the resilience but I mean a lot of people who do look down their nose and on jobs and don't see the value in having to graft and having to grind and just want to pop out of nowhere and have a career in whatever field they want to have there's no behind the scenes action if it takes 10000 hours to put into the craft that you want to then and people can even wake up on time to do 2 hours and I'm a bit like bro you know there needs to be some ground and some grind in what to get to where you want to be I do agree that I think we've got Parker on the line doing better Barbara apologies Barbara Hello Barbara. BUSH Good to speak to. The younger people who think Oh well yes. I'm going to sit by. My. Old. Older now. Well it from my hunger to find it well you know I'm not shocked that I think of the future as rosy because all of those problems will disappear and that's why these young people don't need to be as strong as we need to be in the old days I thought No I think Live think down to my any right to fight this subject well. I was not working and I S. . Surface up I I typed help I was focused on to wake her flat on had as Cape is. Less practical trying to say training from 1st one to 6 say every guy. I think has. The cloud just holding them just guess what they think about that for example sell 4 pounds a week or come a genius I can borrow 4 pounds only half of it is gone so even before she could start dipping into it half of it's going to and then she start paying a quarter of it whatever to transport everything that doesn't leave you a lot at the end of the day that's what older generations had to deal with could you do is do with it I'm not I'm not disputing that but I spend. The majority of my money goes on travel and travelling around London even with the hope of fair. But still it's a lot of money how much do you give your mum is housekeeping housekeeping I'm very lucky that my parents haven't asked me for run this what I mean. What I mean yet but i know i know yet that I'm very lucky because my parents have no. I'm very grateful that they can very easily ask me for I should not I never should you I offer I get but I get groceries and stuff I help around the house so it's not like I'm just living like that for all the king of Israel I don't need more than my stepson does but. When I have people that pay rent so BARBARA Oh I just. Feel as the way oh there you go on top of that as well yes but let's not kill. Well from top to bottom I'm not a style called Murray as well but we don't expect these younger people to do all of that Bob assured it's a different course it is yes it is yeah but it doesn't hurt her help to say you had to help yet you hear that. This was the year that yeah big sun and young people do well. Does it help you know not to if you're unsure if that's your age of maturity if whatever age your parents are not teaching you how to do things and pick up after yourself than have you never ever said moments. Away do you think I could tell my mom is it me. Or not as also bunk I mean you always say that and that and I say mean that's going to me Barbara I think that's all wrong to say doesn't the the does the say they say well the psych I always think to go out to repeat this and go to toss it and go on holiday I could have. Called the mom I do think it made you stronger having Well it's. Like yeah I'm not saying that my just told you I know but you do you think not having what the younger people have today made you stronger Well no it is something I. Just don't want to take it how do I think you know how many have to go. Oh rats in my club. When I threw in the well you know if they could get material I don't make the will mention the will I don't know what I need because the they call . On through no fault of their own they can come out of that you know to that wonderful generation star Oh you made feel you do through and if you do I've just said you know you don't have to feel guilty about that you have to feel guilty he said in a really annoying way that. These annoying little side I am going to get a reaction. That Bob received I have no pope at me for feeling but no need this other than oh I can't it watch him well that was life and we can't even give them a clip round their own anymore do you feel that makes them soft and the fact that they can't get through punishment any more I look at it to learn the kids around the lake all right and then I think I have to say real busy son you know I got my is twisted you know when you can hear in the generation that would twist you into that was not almost literally detached from your head. I. Mean what if you won't listen they just keep twisting and twisting like screw the law. That's all stuff made us stronger the. Thank you Barbara it's a pleasure speaking to thank you and was speaking to my clients who do not despise proper love and I have my grandson is hurt because. His eyes he disclosed no Austria. Got some slack. It's so small he he wants to get out and get something bacon which is dried to him sigh it is our nature just managed to not to fall on the money and they don't think God is held to by I'll. Just find the money some slack. Well. Yeah yeah he's got a long way to go Barbara thank you very much Richard in South fences in the seventy's was on holiday with some mates an old guy came over to us and said in the Yorkshire accent there's room in the exit of a sort of was on the Wii and I had to go back to this room again around the one of you blokes is using a hair dryer as we can see this was ever discovered late is 5 days Lisa McCormick on digital online smartphones and tablets this is B.B.C. 5 Live that a mere pittance secured a landslide victory in Ross's presidential election he took 3 quarters of the vote Meanwhile the Russian president's dismissed claims that his country was behind the poisoning of a former spinors daughter in Salzburg as nonsense he's also denied that Moscow has stockpiles of the No Child nerve agent and says he'll cooperate with the investigation the government's to put 90000000 pawns in the tackling US unemployment among ethnic minorities that money's coming from dormant bank kinds and 1250 skills be closed in Devon today because of heavy snow around 70 people are spending the night in the college after they were stranded on the A 30000 for the sport he is here you will remember as one his 1st tournament since 2016 he finished on 18 on the par at the Arnold Palmer Invitational the coming 3 shots clear of Bryce in the Schomburg his more from a golf correspondent in kata McElroy Burdett 5 of his last 6 holes including a chip in at the 15th for a brilliant 64 it's his 1st win since September 26th seen emphatically and again in different spell of form he now returns to the world's top 10 and enjoys a vital confidence boost for the upcoming masters with recent wins for Paul Casey and Phil Mickelson another top 5 finish for Tiger Woods and Justin Rose finishing 3rd behind McElroy the build up to now. Muntz opening major could hardly be better well number one Roger Federer missed out on a record 6 A.T.P. Masters title Indian Wells beaten by one Martin del Potro in 3 sets Federer surfer the match in the deciding said missing out on 2 championship points before Del Potro broke back eventually winning the match on a tie break. But if you look at opportunity like this go by so a 14 any game probably when I don't start is 90 something percent should sting through a bit the question is how long it won't be long but it's disappointing talking about a great match like yours losing Nomi ASARCO won her 1st W.T.F. Vent in a straight sets win over Derry occurs at Keno in California Chelsea made the F.A. Cup semifinals thanks to an extra time win over Leicester City it finished 21 at the King Power stadium with Pedre scoring the winner Chelsea manager Antonio Conseco was happy with the response after Chelsea's European exit in midweek good performance a great team and he put the heart. Especially after the game in Champions League where we spent a lot of energy as in one. Place Southampton in the last 4 after their 2 no win over League One side Wigan whose manager Paul Cook felt his team deserved more it's a difficult one but you know the price for the semifinal controversial great for a club like ours I was fearful of our time because I felt we played out welfare stuff but we have got in the shelter game and you know where the shell Downton's quality the players the. Victory if it was a little bit harsh on us you know but as you say we wish them well in the semifinal Spurs play Manchester United in the other semi but United defender Luke Shaw looks set to leave the club in the summer after more criticism from his manager Jos a Marine you're sure was substituted at half time of their win over Brighton on Saturday's believed he's upset by the public nature of the criticism. Scotland finished their women's a 6 Nations campaign in 5th place as after they were well beaten by Italy in part of a and Great Britain secured a U.K. Sports ambition of 7 medals at the Winter Paralympics in Pyongyang including just their 2nd gold medal at any winter games with men a Fitzpatrick and. Taking the women's visually impaired slalom title feeling like political scientist with Greg James Felix white and she me Anderson we've got a 2nd series. Too well series it's a rock star and. Rain around and. I mean I reckon I think no one knows how it was anyway but you wouldn't you are a very famous professional cricketer and you have been to most of your life even once I'm no idea she just sent 5 lines in your heart welcome to Thailand is OK if I can from the past and we're not going sat. Across the U.K. This is B.B.C. 5 Live up all night with dogs and by I know that every month or so we have a generation gap phone and with the Macau leap and we see key witness there young people if you like in the conundrum of the phone and we also to throw any questions you have to them and to take them at all to talk of any questions that you have for the. 080859 or 9603 is the number to call as always in this one boss key whether. Your generation if you're older was stronger and more resilient than they generation is that younger and if you're younger person 10 is the same is your generation as resilient as your parents' generation. Oh wait oh wait 5 Snyder 9693 Michael in hybrid with us good morning Michael Tony induction been a long time Guinness American Always a pleasure. My mind lying to my comment about engine size. On a great great call and I have a great name just. Scroll share ended up catching I I was. 5 I see she studies and change the sex. Scroll when she went into. Ready the sex poll to study for a their post and now ages 20 for each when she 4. I think it's going to be sorry Niger in July when she cries Eurasian colon so. This is clearly work and now. 100 Ready ready 20 miles away from the in London is a doctor as a trainee. For example every tough I say as a child she has until the break up of my mind. To go Shreyas. On the mainland. And with this help and suppose of. My progress and. And my sister in law racial children. Ages 9 chases merchant OSHA and is studying psychology. And I can live with. The parson and qualifications to that of course all those kind of domestic and social difficulties does make people. Forget that A you say that she's stronger as well proof of your great nieces resilience is the education the education challenges that she met in triumphed over yes a man I know a man might not mind here and may my interest growing we went to university I mean God knows what that she's going to be saddled with. That let me make them stronger . Maybe they should be saddled of even more debt they become really strong. I disagree. You know they can and I as a dancer she's going and I think our guys a great contribution to this country I don't doubt that what government doesn't screw up their H.S.A. The more they should. And that's a good point but about that was Does education make you stronger. More resilient on equal par with your parents massively so I did he teach English and teaching some of these kids my gosh what they have to do what they have to learn now just this great seat is incredible that eventually. Some of them have to read the language they don't even speak and so a lot of the kids even I'm talking about young kids I'm talking about 8 year olds they have to do a verbal reason an exam then go into a grammar school in the education system now honestly if even if I were to sit exams and I wasn't even in school that long I don't think I would pass the rate that this generation is passing I just it just just a story it reminded me I remember watching on T.V. a Couple of years ago I think it was think it was dollar Bria. I remember he he G.C.S.E. A G.C.S.E. Math exam he came out of it and he was like. Is nothing compared to how I didn't I'm like he was he was a mathematician before is comedian and he him out and he's not yet so we see this generation don't know what is that Richard Richard. Mathematician and I'm I've got the name or idea in my head it remember I am I might be wrong I think is a comedian that was the mathematician but they came out and they were like oh that was so easy also like your of your fully grown man he was study for 3 years of this subject you're not you know you're not like this kid of this is stay here he doesn't like math do you mass initial struggling to get to see him ass like really risen I think yeah. Which way. If any are you more resilient then you'll do great nice nice. Nice story yeah on the 1st 2 patients. Are managed to get actually ages 15 ready I haven't lived with the time you know she's ready a manic depression bipolar the son she's 4 years so not much time to mine lives survivors of course of course but if. You know transpose that to your great niece she would have survived this well wouldn't see such a diagnosis or thought. Marcia shouldn't she share my journalism A I don't know OK Over aren't done. None of that. There's going to be a study. And you know such a minute psychology I'm not out of it myself if she had been a 6 say she. Say she on. Men men men know how else to are clear of my story papar they should start taking it's just an area of psychology. It's always a pleasure being human and always learn some English speech to thank you very much Francis in Suffolk is with us as well as to Francis doesn't at low. Care a lot of the that the young have the right sort of brought our faith profession Yeah I should hope so because I'm quite resilient you know and if you're the field name you can stay there all these young guys want to try and take a toddler who from you but you just keep jabbing him bugging you waving I'm still there yeah yeah good thank you right are you ready for a Sunday. My father was Bernie 93 Wow a joy dreich a stern riled by. A 1st rate kinda guy facing the hotel at the age of 1st aid is enough Rispoli I thought the time he retired they were just in case accounting here Briquet strange for hotels and price exegesis he had that quite a few guys in the team because the boss. I graduated in 1959 kids to a job I had to go interviews and pick. For all of them on the MS in Laos. And that was a job for lots of made because. I think started a graduate try in a city state as a pig SCIBOR design and get a head is on a date. Or look all the countries said. Manufactories had tracked the manufactories. Obvious to a call inside a company. Retaught over 25 years ago. Now I keep. That I have a young friend who was born in 989. Had I gauged a big red bag scope because they could come things right it said Tra No qualifications. For a long time hey they couldn't find work a toll. Supported partly by me and partly by his father. Practical nasal fog and a nod to Bach it said face I could get around. Repair it get harder things that. I then. A little infringe over about 10 years. As a last. Justice week stuff is up a good deal. Something totally rock I think that was on baseball ideas potentially very high days but a guy getting 10 years of writing a living doing casual jobs laboring a much heavier occasionally for that sort of Fogarty seat now that there is an enormous gap between not united for even my father was born and 19 I think my neighbor or I see the point you're making I seed of what you all can yeah but really well laid it yet to sit extent younger people today and I think it was a point. To keep made idea that they had not given the opportunities that older generations were given and all that but the hysteria like it or not a lovely young friend born yesterday. And he had also very difficult for the Scole he was excluded from school I used to take him to school. To a problem or east gold. Medal still has a medal Scotius of another size I used to take him to store every day anon tonge out a teddy for me out a lot he said come on face value I will tell. You a gong is a stroll it. But he's always got a good bride and he not even to say yes he is now a nice T.V. Driver driving heavy truck you know that's the kind of question that I want to put to my guest Hannah and thank you very much for calling Francis really appreciate. I read insight into this thank you it what about the sickly that the idea that if you had the opportunities what more would you have achieved do you think if you had the opportunities in life and were kids aside see in education that said to the cetera that your parents had what more do you think you could have achieved and I don't think I quite get what you mean well proses was saying that you know one younger person the he is acquainted with didn't do well at school. Compared to his father's day where his father could leave school at 14 to get jobs where young person took them 10 years to get a job look at the doing well now it's wonder if there was in that 10 year gap for them to fall on their feet and be essentially the same position as Francis his dad was in 1917 it would have been when he left school how different would it have been for years for example if at the moment you're doing joking about 3 or 4 different jobs to maintain you're struggling to you know get to be able to have your own place around flat even to read one let alone to buy one and how different would your life what more could you have achieved do you think by now by where you are now if you've had the opportunities that say the opportunity to do 3 jobs instead of or you know 7 jobs instead of 5000000 about 5 jobs and move 7 jobs instead of 5 and if you know the opportunity to maybe being able to afford a place to self and other opportunities in life what more could you be achieving Well I think I think I'm still an eternity so I would I would have hoped it's kind of. Compared to Frances is now yeah been working for 6 years but never let let me say lowly 20 Let me finish but I would have hoped had I been in a similar such situation to find dad then I would be able to. I have my own place. However I don't think it's any use dwelling on what could have been we were talking earlier about how it how it whenever I'm in my in my jobs which I'm very lucky that I do like my jobs at the moment but I have had jobs that I've done that I've just been absolutely soul destroying like completely and utterly soldier trying Everybody has no yeah No 100 percent but it's really important to have those jobs that's what that's my point is that it's really important to have those jobs because I have friends who have. I know they're like. Seemingly had it easy in the sense they've come out of school and they've they've got you know a career in the profession that they've always dreamed of you know whether that be . Acting or singing whatever they've just like some By haven't really had a job that they have. That they haven't liked and whenever I'm you know scrapping dishes away ever like 7 in the morning and I'm really straight on like this is not what I want to do but I'm just like it builds character and in in 510 years 15 years time I will look back and I'll be like. That bill character not you know that something in me and I can I can then apply that commitment and that determination into whatever I do next so I think it is at least trying to look for the positives in whatever negatives you have at the moment oh it 5693 the tsunami to join in this morning's generation phone and so we talk about. The younger generation today as resilient as the parents' generation as you can hear from. The. Source of a kind of if if. If I'm following Suki's argument correctly. It's almost as if you need to have those opportunities to allow yourself to be able to be as resilient as you previous generations. Almost have the opportunities to do those so destroying jobs for example. Being resilient in that respect is experiences and resilience is kind of experience of something or. Having gone through something that makes you resilient . Yeah so and that's what I think is really important I think we define experience and whether or not it's my grandparents' generation and whatever that made them resilient or if it's that 8 year old who's studying for the grammar school then taken apart what we call experience and whatever lessons that produces for the person therefore they will be resilient in whatever field and they can apply those lessons for for example I think it's really important to think that today the job within the creative field and you having to go out and grab hold of them because they don't come as frequently as those that are perhaps in jobs that look defined as more stable when a $9.00 to $5.00 or whatever so if you know Bill in that way I'm not Bill academically then you have to be resilient to think OK I'm not going to long no longer see the academic route and what I have to think about going into work and what does that look like at 16 I think it's really important to look at the spectrum of all different experiences and finding ways in which you become resilient in whatever life is Tony I was just I was going to pose a question to you actually saw the I was talking with be interested get your insight on it I was talking to my mates a couple days ago and we were talking about this seemingly recent actually be an interesting viewpoint as well. We're talking about this seemingly recent phenomenon phenomenon the number norm. Where. This generation seemingly feel. Feels the need to be successful by the age of 25. And I think we were discussing and I'm I really strongly believe that it's come from social media and being able to access you know anyone's life or any and any time and just dip in and see you know the highlights of their life and so you can see. You can see 18 year olds you know other props in my field of 18 year old actors that are doing you know bigger and better production Productions the man I'm like well you know I'm 20 and I'm not doing that and you can see other musicians doing bigger and better things knew me kind of have this thing to compare yourself to die and there's this intense pressure that if you haven't got this you know high pay if you haven't got success or recognition by the age of 25 then you're a failure in this generation and I was to mention it to my dad and he was like I've still traveling and living out of a wee bit 20 No I you know I had no idea what I want to do at 29 and it's seemingly a recent for not phenomenon finally said that what. I just be interested to see if like if you agree with that or and gotten if if if that if that was a thing in your generation Yeah I think. 1st of all I think social media gives you access to people's lives that makes it easier to compare everyone's journey 1st and foremost because everything's transparent and I think that's one of the dangers social media and 2nd of all I think that the goal was have have shifted from my generation to a pension ration where is our parents' generation any money to put down a house because it was it was easier to do so whereas this generation we kind of bit the bullet and think OK we're not going to earn enough to put down the house and therefore my goals have shifted and therefore maybe that timeline that I think it's Babson intrench not springtime we go to school with no end into blocks right you must do this you must do that who's to say those timelines and those goalposts also what we need to stick to I passed the things I thought I know loads of people who didn't stick to that and those do successful by going if it was down social media being compared to and so yeah I just think if we recognise that the goalposts have shifted but also the goals in and of themselves are no longer the same as WA parents wanted to achieve and you don't need to feel under the pressure to do things by a certain age and that's quite liberating although it's not always popular because you feel like you're the only one who's not doing what you should be doing but when you break it down that's well from my view I'm quite happy to do what I'm doing at the moment knowing that I don't need to compare myself to my journey but I don't I don't use that same for your well I don't know what I think and you probably are quite right. A lot of this is a social media chain where I think when I have seen that narrative of people thinking you're a failure if you haven't made it by the age of 25 whatever made it means your. Generation. Have access. Everything that you know way that my generation didn't for example I didn't really know about the world or how to get around the world a way to go in the world you can look on the Internet and have access to that but today in my generation you know just started with punk realisation though you can go and cut your own records you know you have to buy make Jagger's latest record you've cut your own recording you don't have to be brilliant you find a market now you don't even have to cut your own record you can put it up on Sound Cloud or whatever it is you can become a stronger you can become a star you know the idea of videoing yourself you know we did have video we didn't have any of that there's no way of sort of if I was a be an actor for example which I did want to be to make my own little home movie there's no such thing you know people had separate cameras and everything like that if they're wealthy enough but you didn't have access to all that sort of stuff as you have now so I can understand why people think we'll have them with all this access that you guys have now and you still haven't married at 25 you know it must be soft and that's the term that they would have used my days you know they were probably the other the previous generation lives so that about us because we had a certain amount of access to everything in the world that they didn't have and so on so in those terms I'm fascinated by one or 2 things that will come to see go another half an hour of this phone interview if you'd like to join in the number to call is 080859 or 9693 was get told off or say too fast yeah that's my child rationing 808-590-9693 we haven't heard from anybody from your generation they don't get their sleep I know we've got jobs to get out to yeah it's a badly day in and the new and it's good and then I get on to the graft. While listening said I would rather might see boys grow up a snowflake's and be understanding of others than have them as much machismo the men that believe that they are better than I was that's another thing actually because you know we necessarily saying tough is good. Tough is good and soft is bad and we say that. It's seemingly Yeah yeah and you agree with that no it's good. Enough is good soft is bad depending what context.