Experience from working with young people very much actually very interesting what you had. What they were. What you're talking about 1314 you just in your old sitting Neal because most of them are mills and have been involved in. All the things you've been describing. My thing is when I'm listening to your sales I like to sing. But what I do and a lot of my colleagues do Israel. When we're young people in the community how can we help them after they've left over. One of things we can do which is what I've been trying to get the government to do for many many years is that you need to have people they can relate to relate to but when I went to No he screamed I'm a black man I went into a white area which has had generation upon generation of families living off the welfare state absent fathers dads in prison uncles or. You know also imprisoned brothers and it's all noise screen it's riddled like that and while I realize it didn't matter that I was black. I related to them because I came from a similar background and these young people want is they want people to engage with them that relate to them that can understand where they're coming from not to look down there not to be judgment or because we've become a judgment all state we judge young people we judge families we drudged single mothers what we should be doing is trying to employ people that can relate to these people that can mentor them because that's what these young men and young girls need they need people that's a story you know it's no point you employ in some graduate from university because they've got a social work degree or they've got some sort of degree and they and you and you think. That person you might as well employ some. Early Yes it's going to sound a bit red the what I'm saying but you got to employ somebody that's come from that background that Ok I understand that you've got to do the d.b.s. You've got to make sure that they're not involved in criminality that's all good but the most important thing for young people today if you can't relate to them and this is why we're not winning. Government. Employees from from the police straight to to local farmer is our employee in the wrong people to work with these kids and these kids are more then I want to hear from somebody. And don't get me wrong there's nothing when we qualifications because you can have a qualification but still be from that background so there's nothing wrong with. An individual I mean. Younger. People. So the later though it. Is quite good. The people who have ever thought about one still leave and they go back and the wider community and I know that I mean certainly in Scotland that's a lot of money dear to try and support the young people but you're still. Having the financier is one thing that we don't have the people. To go then off to do it yeah and that's what you need you need somebody outside of your organization does the work that you've been doing but outside so once they've left you what should be happening is these people that's got the money should be employing specialists that will continue the work that you started that's what needs to happen yet another one more point then I'll let you can only be. Arrested in what you were saying a bit in music because I tend very much with the kids for the way the music the music and I understand them of you. Know what you're seeing do you think that's a bad thing it's. Better to try to get on with what haven't you all they can just so many other things are doing with your stuff can you really can you know that. We do I mean I certainly think in time your music or. The music they want you but they're lost. On them. I think what you're doing is perfectly the right thing to do and I've been encouraging teachers and parents to try to listen to the music very listening to so you can understand the words could do one of the things I've been doing when I go into schools is I read back the lyrics they're listening to what when they hear where they didn't realize that the lyric was telling them to shoot people they didn't realise the live it was telling them to sell drugs they didn't so sometimes it is good for you to listen to the music so you can understand it but then to read back the words to them to say actually did you know that this is actually telling you to do bad things because what you've got to understand the effect of that music won't affect you because you're an adult but it will affect a child whose brain has not been developed but then go and it's always where supposed to tell young kids every other kid every young teenager that I me nowadays is spending half their time writing lyrics and I wonder why with society would say to a poet stop right now we didn't mention that with the Internet we're talking about a battle very good I don't get it now we're talking about Pacific young people that are caught up in this lifestyle because you've got lots of kids that listen to drill that don't commit crimes sure what I'm saying what I'm talking about is that the group she's talking about is the group that she's working with that there's nothing wrong in Devon listening to music because I actually didn't say they should stop listening. Explain what the exit lane what the music is shouldn't shouldn't some of those I wonder whether what you're really saying and then back me up if you agree or disagree isn't really what. Sheldon is saying is what should be taught in schools you know rap or you know grime or drill as a son. Magick should be that of the school in the school curriculum so that we could study the lyrics and get an understanding of is that the difference between let's say Shakespeare beginning with Sampson in Gregory talking about stepping up a man and you know whoever will have the latest Drew guys saying Shoot I don't think there's any definite Other No I have only the because of cutting down and numbing setting and that was over the back of gangs and I read that when I was maybe 14 Festing and thought of instant aspic when I read it as a 40 year old after all my court and I like the social implications of it yes indeed it is effort one of the young people what we evaluate is one route and I tell you what is it very cathartic for the analog am uns although that's only a serious actually very good because he said he discussed the Latics just add a discussion of the need it's got a book telling because some things are mad and not and at some level maybe to what and thank you very much I'm so pleased to hear that the young people of Scotland because somebody like you relates to them are genuinely am actually you've inspired this conversation Thank you Nathan in north London similar situation for you how much of an issue is gang involvement where you are a children's home. Constantly was. Orienting for with. Risk because you know one step away from being in or you know some of them already are and. You know someone official summary highly suspect. A massive massive issue. Bush should I think do than children I think why should he do with I think with with where is a no from to not been to no fountain a few years ago. And I'm going to tell you why this is a massive problem because when I went to No no fountain and did a presentation to the loss of a foreigner this in London sorry north London don't know if London and I can about which part of London. I want to go and I'm calling from North London near central London sense oh Ok well well London's with the recounts have you with. Me There's nothing really I can say because to be honest London is not in the be fixable I'm going to be honest of you yeah and I know people are trying to London London but the local banks are personally yeah because this is this is what's been on my mind for quite a long time so I kind of wanted to think when I have a relationship with some of the people what was involved in this kind of thing where I can have realty of the county conversations with them and I get the impression that you know that the joining forces for this particular group I know you've referred to kind of middle class groups and you know parenting and being a left earlier on but for the group on with I think being out to empower themselves and their own money is a massive choice in fact you know these these young people that. You know they keep the people that love them will care for them of people that pay to do it and the stuff of a weird situation in itself and so they you know they know deep down that even if they are good and some kind of care they call a life on themselves so you know if you say 14 and you run again like you know. 4 in quick pocket money a week and so you can get why you might get money for something else but you know you write it out spend it if you were a staff member something you've got very little to play with so you know if you've got the opportunity to think of your own money you can again to understand any option is to get involved with a guy. I can I can truly empathize with why a young person might going to do that so do you know do we identify these young people and find work for them on cars going ring schemes guarantees them work a lot and neighbors and on how themselves sort of call it just in that honest choice to make rather than you know a lack of choice which is why police have now well it depends on the age group because the law says they have to be 17 years old to work and to work part time you have to be 16. You know really I would decide my personal opinion 1st London is unfixable Ok and I think people need to understand that I've said there don't listen to anything that the home of his or anything says because it's all lies it's not going to be fixable the other point I'm going to make is that when you talk about young people earning things that is because young people have got it in their heads that they want everything right now really and truly we should be telling young people about get an education because one of the things I told to talk to people is about what happened to 2 Pac 2 Pac sold for triple platinum albums he was bigger than Eminem before Eminem came out it was the biggest yet when he died his mom went to get the money to find out what happened to the money and there was no money because 2 Pac signed a contract and signed his money over to such a night because he didn't read the contract now what I'm trying to say to young people is this. You may want money but you have to do what everybody else has had to do which is go to school and you can't get around that just because you're $15.00 and you want a pair of trainers that cost 120 pounds but you're not prepared to wait for it so you're going to join a gang I would not encourage any young person to want to work before their time because education is important for contracts education is important for instance we've got a lot of guys are coming out of prison who cannot even make ends meet when they get a flat and they and they can't do simple things like buy food because they've never had that they've never had mastered never Dunder the kind of basic things going a 2nd Sheldon working is a kind of an educator any education isn't the one the school doing and what Nathan is if I read you right may if I read you right once upon a time Nathan you could go to the local corner shop from the age of 11 you are again at exactly once upon a time I did work for my you know my dad's makes you know cash in and when I was 14 you know was it you know obviously it's not legal but no you know everything in you know mainstream society a lot of people just the 1st job you know he had gone coming to have a job for me out of. Cash you know but for the group I work with those kind of things that get blind always turned into to them you know quite a little you know you can't get away with that and not system but I mean I understand what strictly within the whole I understand what you're saying I'm not saying I shouldn't wear what I'm trying to say is this why is that we've got to understand why if I'm talking about the same age group who's going to go to jail come out and they've lost a flat because I can't even do simple math so what I'm saying to his this of course we should be income. Young people to work when they leave school and get a decent job but that's going to take a complete societal change which is change the curriculum at school so that we can have more vocational studies that apply to the general population of the of the young people because at the moment everything's good to everyone going to university and now we're thinking about the guy that doesn't want to go that doesn't want to go university Secondly we need to have construction ins in schools why starts construction when they leave school when we can do a construction course because. A brick layer and 400 pounds a day a lot of young people you say 400 pounds something wrong show a day to electricians and a lot of money the guy that construction is one of the best paid jobs in the country but yet we do not encourage it to actually start in secondary school which is what I believe so I'm in agreement with you the only thing I would say is that I think we've become a society that is too materialistic and we've become a society because of the adverse and social media young people still got this idea that I want to make money now well your 40th bricklayers are making 400 critical you cover a lot of people you can't go Nathan will want to do this phone in again sometime in the future I'm sure it's a good sailor because at least one other corner thank you for now Nathan in north London the got Bob in Birmingham with us as well oh Bob are living are yeah Very well thanks are about your 3 to Sheldon Thomas go ahead you got a question for him. Oh I just want to say guys not be this it's a this focal for the 510 and on some points I agree on some points I don't agree with because the Pressly old got from the law so I know who goes on and they got on why people choose to be diverse and I also understand why people would love us to in Congress and so there was a work to this was to this was a book look we saw this when you're young you know senior to that you need to do in life what you think. You expect to go to use and expect to. Do something you also want to go to one of the schools really said to them and all of a sudden you're 16 years old you get kicked out of school. All of a sudden There's no he said there's nothing I was to do and then all of a sudden people of all vote I did say what they wanted this. I'm a be honest with you I'm in agreement with you I don't think there's any disagreement from here I'll tell you why I want to talk on you know all the Look it's simple we could all we could all scream about how much junk there are out there who fact of the hour is that some of these jobs that we look we want. Is not going to be it's not what we like it's clear struction it's warehouse space that got people from each doctor does it but me personally living in but I think I'll sit with my friends they will cry for jobs I call them for into the idea that their record just because they didn't go to school I'm just educational have the chance to go to college they can cut down from talking to why they. Look people have got these not only what your work you'll probably the oldest sibling and she's got a single mom in your house and she was like this piece of poor How do you expect to support your mom lives whether you're going out there trying out life 1st. Second you can't just say I also want to do the things you have to follow on the farm no I'm in total agreement and I think what you're saying is is on point in terms of how young people and why they join gangs I think there's no disagreement there but I think what we have to understand what your describing is what I've been saying is a societal change because one we need to stop just be judgment along kids who have no qualifications Caillou Saxony and we don't need to go back to what I said absent father and we and apart what you just said about the senior figure there for the. Others the kid myself almost 20 How do you get out of gangs them both how did you get goings the reason. I went to people like all the people I. Spoke RINGBACK to people. I love Army life don't want you want that right I would and I was affected must have really and I want to myself look on 18 years if I don't change my life to date I'm not changing provoke. Someone How did you get out of it added you get out of the boat would be gentle to you to get out of it all I 1st thought I'd write our car if I talk to a friend I spoke to this one a friend put me on to this work and I just thought I'd work it didn't whatever I had it and then slowly I thought here's something you got something you just forget about all the obligations that it was in the past because the old and they're not there Ok And thank you very much you really terrified a lot for us I think for everybody listening in the couple times you said London is not fixable in terms of gang crime what you mean how can it know the capital city is not fixable how can it not be because unless you have politicians who are prepared to listen to people like myself they want to listen to people who've never lived there they want to listen to people who form policies on based on lack of knowledge we're member this year I went to Jack Straw and told him that the next generation of gang members are going to be young children he refused to accept that . We are now in 2019 for the last 7 years we've had 10 and 11 year while selling drugs and so what happens is if you don't want to listen to somebody like me and you prefer to listen to somebody because I've got a Ph d. What do you just get a Ph d. That did this turn it won't be as simple as that really no because they're not interested in the kind of person I am and I'm a black male which for them is is kind of terrifying that a black male know more sure about that yes I'm 100 so it sounds really off key the web just said it but look at the people who run the government departments Yeah look like me. Now don't Ok. The last 5 on some guitars we had the world today look like me when when you go you've been to trap houses Yeah you've explained to us how old is the youngest person 1111 years old a little youngest person I've met well the youngest person was in Liverpool know in if he was 9 but he not any wasn't running there he was with part of a gang and the older guy was 11 and youth prisons were used to call bulls tools year defenders in suggestions the ones you find a lot of these youngsters going to well several j.j. 13 for Terry same for sale in 14 and 15 is that what becomes of those people when they come out of the year far worse than when they went in really I'm telling the cylinders not fixable not just about London are not in the least answer is listening. The only way we're going to fix this is if we look at it from a societal point of view we have to get families right you can't get families right if you've got a mother in a far that has a child and they themself are dysfunctional Ok so you have to look at that Secondly we have to look at the government there day to day don't have a vision for children if you listen to that last caller what he's saying is that the guy that works in a children's home in north London well he's basically saying these guys want to earn money but we don't have a plan for these kids who want to earn money we don't have a plan for them what we have is a $1.00 track of a one way approach go to school finish school and that's when we will talk to you but what we've got to understand is that there were young people who want to work very quickly chairman was you know what's your view on stop and search do you view it as a racist policy or is it unfairly maligned by those on the left. I think that stop and search is necessary but I think that the police there are doing their. It's part of an institution that has become in the races but they're not the only institutions are racist in this country a lot of people to understand that the local farmer is in the n.h.s. Are just as institution rightly as the police and Phil was you know if you think that bringing about some form of bull still institutions that they had in the fifty's and sixty's now that would be better than a long offender placement why no one recalls locking the child up with hardened criminals is never going to solve the issue right now is fairly less a wants to know and by the way Lori in Stockbridge in West Midlands and with regards to that. You know the Range Rover deaths things it was in red Sinden in s. Retina range and yes so I think you for that Frank you. Know. Of him a very only too glad to put you straight on there. Well let's bring you back on another occasion and talk more about this were going ahead of an election can you see an improvement Wolf. Because we're in a situation now the sun has got be done pretty quickly can you see any improvement looking ahead into turning 20 No Ok Sheldon Chalmers there from gangs line and the . Website website as well anxiety dot com dot com Thank you very much really appreciate it let's get the latest 5 Live headlines says and which is on digital b.b.c. Census sluff Asia among the various ways b.b.c. Radio 5 Live Boris Johnson will visit full Briggs it very sing labor House seats across some back in northeast England lights it with 3 days to go before polling day may be assessing as its priorities for its 1st 100 days in government if it wins the election a 13 year old boy has been released. 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Just for news and the best life support this is b.b.c. 5 live a double night with dogs in the bar and a no stopping of all night now it's time for port hopping move so. Who takes his through this morning's them so pod casting very much has its roots firmly placed in the realm of the amateur shall we say and the majority part cats that are active today are made up by amateurs it produces you know people who have passion for a particular topic and they just want to well they just want to simply talk about it and get it out into the world. And you know even though now a casting is very much a mainstream thing it's a mainstream media maps such is the likes of anchor and messy f.m. They pretty much allow anyone with a smartphone to record at it and distribute their own pod cast globally for absolutely free you know as long as you have a smartphone and an Internet connection of course so what I talk about so starts is an independence these are the kind of shows that are now being made by individuals or a couple of individuals without any backing from organizations or hardly any money at all why would anybody want to listen to amateurs is playing the game when they can what to listen to the professionals. It's a really good question but I suppose the simple answer to that is that the majority of them it is don't have an audience and I suppose the ones that do make it they've done it for a very long time and so they've built their audience up and they talk about knee subjects which you can't find information anywhere else or they have a particular skill in producing or Joe to a very high standard so there's a couple examples we're going to talk about here where they are actually already a produces in their day job and they just happen to say this in their spare time because they're passionate about particular subjects. So let's start off with quid pro euro who was on my words a caller who wasn't paying attention in Latin class. Well I mean you know I'm definitely somebody that wasn't I don't even do that in a school but Sam Yep quid pro euro is is a British part cast and if you're a fan of the hit comedy pod cast called the bay from Derry network have you heard of that one no no no not one of its kind of spoof mockumentary type show based around the beef and dairy industry. Which as gained an immense over the last 8 years before is that a bigger loss than. I don't know I think it's light lit it's meant to be literally beef and dairy but yeah it's a this this one quid pro euro is very similar style it's is essentially. Taking the mickey out of a certain style of documentary shall we say so this. Maybe. When you're at school and you go you were shown a perhaps a video of I don't know how stamps were produced it's very dry and it's deliberate. And it's a similar kind of voice so this particular one reflects back to the eighty's and ninety's when Les you said the notion of the European Union and Britain's place in it was much more solid than it was today so we put it like that well I'm hoping this will be the spinal tap of the Common Market Yes there's been a lot of that I like that I think there should probably Nick that as a as a subtype of the party guest. But it's kind of in the same vein as you know Peter Serafin of which is late 2000 say Look around you it's that kind of thing. So the premise here is there's a writer and comedian called Felix Trent he's teamed up with a sound designer. And the. The idea is that it's a European video production whatever that means and it's a series of audiotapes from the institution of the European Union kind of a legit from $95.00 it's got a grainy v.h.s. Texture. But it suppose it's like a funny a Blair Witch Project and she can't think of it like that you know it's meant to be just discovered we are sick of this one our part we will make you sound crazy our movie all the work oh wait I suppose it's yet decide for yourself but I think it's really funny it's not take long it's probably about 10 minutes so it doesn't get old quickly and here's a clip from an episode titled trade. The mechanism some function of the European Union going forward into the 21st century. We've. Grow. Even though. This is a European video production. Really at the end of 9095 years of the history books but what's next is we need this decade from truly this now is an injury in this series we're going to find out. Today trying. If the European Union where a bag of Justin Case camping equipment trade would be the paracetamol. Just last year within the union we freely trade goods services capital. Waterfowl collectible religious buildings crosses words cross plates crosswords Musea jobs ghosts complement Thank you chaps and ivory which is the state of being like any. Motifs trade. Let's illustrate in Geneva. Ever since June 2 or 3 quarters of late every hour and next by the European Union we've had to assign them to amend the state so that they qualify for the European Free Trade Area alumni magazine. In this month's edition take the quiz to find out which house of the Holy Roman Empire you 3 I have the house of tacticians and cowards. In the resigning of Geneva is why it is geographically to the east of France and politically in North Wales. In Geneva a city with a street signs are in French Swiss German Italian and in the UK a pen well. Done crowd is not on the rise. Right through. With Swiss no enforcement ending it a new border and the North Wales police or 30 off solving exciting murder in Anglesey. Fellow gangs work the Geneva streets without fear insouciantly drinking Rivera eating Rick a lot even though these products are nations with helps which are illegal. Because the sweets. Yeah that is almost too good show. You know that is almost too good because that's exactly how those documentaries were you could always hear the name you see presented as a mad children we're going to learn the letter and they say after it's amazing it's almost so good or lease the mockumentary side of it is almost so perfect that you know you could miss the joke so you know you can do I suppose the idea is if you are listening to it you understand that you have to kind of keep a sharp. If that's out for those kind of quick very sharp jokes that run through it but yeah if you see you subscribe to the part cast your European pre-treat because it covers all kinds of topics and like you said you know the authenticity of the production just kind of makes it stand out as opposed to what he's saying but again it's you know it's just his own his own budget his own time and he wanted to just give it gives it a pod casting enables him to experiment with the jokes in these formats so it's quite unique enables him to broadcast from the banks of Lake Evian. He hasn't missed political considerations considering has it missed the boat of this world well who knows the less said about the best. That we have to my area of expertise but for the moment it's very relevant anyway Ok and we move on from the moon phase subaverage moment. Yes if this is the other end of the spectrum I suppose in terms of the type of Schoener it delivers it in. It's only 6 episodes long it's a fictional series however it is based on a non fiction supposed you know it's. A self penned poem to worlds from this guy called Joe Kim. And you know the majority of critics in the pod cast space of 10 to agreed with one another that this is probably one of the most impactful podcast productions of 2019 I tend to agree actually because it's very impactful in its messaging it's the this is soul production outside of his day job which is to be transparent production job for one of the big companies in the States and it was he's made this to reflect his own real life experiences now what they are is it's a relatively simple narrative it's basically him as a young Korean American man he struggles to come out as gay to his mother and she doesn't speak English so that's where the tension of these episodes lies and there's issues of racism which are also confronted and the whole thing is just wrapped around this lovingly. Lovingly made narrative wittes great sound design good technique. It gives good insight into you know what it's like to be young Korean and gay in the u.s. And you know Trump and all the issues that have. Over there at the moment and it very much tugs at the heartstrings so you know if you're motional listening to this it may cause a few tears and is just a bit of a. Claim but if this clip is just a bit of a taste of what you can expect. How are you today. Good things you. Find Thank you. But you're still getting paid you could look at them. It's fine I have enough. We've been getting a back. Yeah into. How to be $7630.00 . 3 seriously oh no and. My mom wants to use these coupons Is that Ok. Sure. Sorry I have to take this just one second I'm so tired. Hello They call me happy but you're right that pork chop has got. Used to me and it's going well thanks how are you. Know we're really like you're after. An hour like you and like as one of 50 years. Oh my God Are you serious Stephanie think you have a car well I don't want to get the data right now to wish for the 8 we are. Dollars we do offer some financial aid but you'll have to meet our dollar I mean I'm. A. Is there any way we could extend the deadline for the deposit. You know let me ask you are in jail Ok great. Well I don't mean to be rude but my mom is a sorcerer waiting for me now where I can grab you touched you know Marty. Thank you Stephanie. What is the problem. Because they are expired see here the date Ok Ok Is everything Ok it's no use looking at Coupon booths and so it's going to be $7638.00. Ok it's Ok sir there's a long line of customers who've been waiting. Yeah Ok I'm sorry to hear it records . Again too good to be cooled and. Yeah so if starts it's an independence but it's from a professional that. Any is a professional but he's you know it's a success in the sense that he's doing this in a spare time and he's kind of making the most of his knowledge of the park a space to kind of tell his story and yet he's he's he is a professional but also you know he's making the most of his talent and his storytelling ability why do you think it is the so many people who said that this is been something of a game changer in 2091 of the more influence. Put goes one. I suppose a lot of the impact of the impact was weird yeah yeah I suppose it's the thing podcasting as much as any other medium has been criticized for the lack of diversity and in terms of. You know representation in popular pod casts and this tackles that straight ahead but also you know your audience is getting bigger and more as it gets more mainstream. The demand for different types of storytelling is getting greater and so serious like Moonface definitely plays up to the fact that these these shows if they're being made a will be listened to and they will be enjoyed and there is an audience for them you know it's not just to aging men comedians perhaps talking about cars anymore it's more more complex than that and this is more diversity. Which this very much reflects I think 2019 is the 1st time we're really saying that at the very top level with import guessing that can only be a good thing it if you like a drama series that you could hear on t.v. More so than radio but even radio Yes it has that has to be said actually that that is a very moderate clip and the majority is that it deals it's a lot of adult feigns just a slight warning that cool only. Somewhat stereotypical. In my thoughts but how did I know the slaughter house road had something to do the Australian. I don't know call it broadcasting intuition I suppose. But this this one is created by an Australian woman like he said Australian called Jessica Hamilton and you know she's an amateur but she she's got a passion for writing music and essentially what this is is a fairy or preaching series and it's basically the best be described as a musical fiction I suppose and there's not many of these around because like with with all these things it takes a lot of time and it takes a lot of effort and a lot of skill to do it right. You know the other thing to say is that to having music in pod cast is a nightmare you know if you're listening to this and you think you might make a pod cast don't put any music in there. Just for safety reasons because you know it's it's kind of a sensitive subjects and it's frowned upon and in some cases you will be asked in a put down your podcast and remove it so this this kind of achieves music on its own terms it's great and I wish it was done more to be honest it's a kind of a tragic old Australian romantic or a musical set in a jaded small town on this train east coast. It's about 45 minutes series in total and you know if you like music any like kind of quirky Australian drama just give it a listen you know you might really like it and so this is from an episode of a series called falling head over heels. Or. What. I always come on Rhonda's. Mike night is great biggest order of the year has been in the next darker come Friday night most of us will end up as tanned chargrilled small acts served up hot to the slush and mashed potatoes. To things are running pretty hot they swayed down slow to ask your heart. Ok Jimmy you can guy. You know you're lucky your mom such a wonderful woman and that I need the extra hands on this big order for Friday but don't let me down tomorrow kid or your wife have a job next week yeah Greg no worries are here. Greg's not the only one who's noticed Jimmy's heart's not in the job he's distracted sorry Greg a little fragile. 8000 along he. On Can you give this fact to Mrs Bailey on your wife Hassani. Or a daughter on a you pretty cane on her. I'm not surprised they do your part to cut your bloody heads in the class or on my. The one good thing about Jimmy's new job at the slow to ask was the chance to hear 10 sing in a honey stand and maybe even say. If you heard Johnny. First wait all couldn't I'm in bed with Cher smile and then would be a dad. But the savvy he'd be bringing this is based on fact that he'd have an excuse to linger a little longer. They saw day 10 I'll take that front good it's on can you keep an eye out for Jimmy with that lot. Or not too much of an I tell me. It's the highlight of Tams day but she'd never admit it. She's always wanted to go it alone and hated the idea of having a blood clone around. She filling in monitors night out says that song now Gene Sperling in the. Very kinds now long. Legged. Well this is drummer isn't it. Yeah Ok it is mixed with kind of a. Very kind of country fied Australian music running through it or call it by you know by the one who made the series just says fascinating read. Why is it such a problem with music that I still don't get it is that because of copyright issues because the music here seems as if it is you can't do without it here it's exactly that obviously it's not my area to expect as far as far as I understand it you know in terms of digital download and music obviously the music industry has a problem with us think Napster in particular and I suppose when you download a podcast episode your literally downloading it's your phone and if that contains copyrighted music and you're technically downloading a track without paying for it so it's kind of dodgy ground when you look at it from that context however that's not say that doesn't happen but it's probably best to avoid it if you can ask those if you write the music yourself there are those issues but then how do they know you've written it yourself before you get one of those desisting resistant pull you take the music out you put those notices from the providers the platforms Yeah I mean it's a tricky one you know I think care which it started off as a very. Hit and hope type of methodology I suppose but now it's getting a bit more streamlined and yeah there are a few kind of ways around it now but say yet still a bit of a Wild West in that respect Yeah David McGuire from the pod cast recommendations stable. Now in the next of the program we'll. Introduce you to a conversation that I had earlier and I guarantee the person I spoke to probably one of the most inspirational people I've ever spoken to and inspirational because there's something about the human spirit despite all the challenges you go through somehow. You keep hope alive you know and the person I'm. Talking about is. Gentleman calls Winston Churchill now 47 years ago he was fitted up I think is the globe. By a corrupt police officer in 3 other men. Their lives they really need youngsters the time and their lives are pretty much ruined because of Chiyo sentence that they were given at the time and he served 8 months of his sentence. And he's been the last 47 years trying to. Be vindicated for the crime he didn't commit so he took back in his students of rough justice and one of the most notorious ones when it takes that long to get your conviction quashed 47 years Ok didn't spend all that time in prison but when you hear his story when you hear his story. Guaranteed And this is a story that takes his back to that night on the I think it was the 16th of March 90 it was at 13th much $972.00 no less. When he was on his way home simply and it's Who else is through what happened on that night. A very good morning to you it's 4 am on Monday the 9th on December b.b.c. News on while the Web there's been a volcanic eruption on an island in New Zealand popular with tourists it's not yet clear if anyone's been hurt but it's reported that around $100.00 people were in the area that some are unaccounted for the volcano on White Island is about 30 miles off the country's north island. 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